Reminder that Germany is cucked into maintaining and protecting these monuments in Berlin by the 2+4 treaty (the treaty that allowed the BRD and GDR to reunite).
>>219461234meanwhile the countries actually liberated by the Soviet army like Poland and Czechia tore down all monuments to it
>>219461370>Liberated
>>219461542Yes, we should have let the Germans exterminate most of Eastern Europe population and leave the survivors as slaves. The Poles would have loved that.
>>219462189You are right
>>219462189>we should have let the Germans exterminate most of Eastern Europe population and leave the survivors as slavesThis would have been objectively the best case scenario no matter from which angle you look at it
>>219461542yes, liberated. the soldiers of the red army liberated poland. have you ever read a fucking history book?
>>219462189Right there was no other option between letting the Germans do General Plan Ost and the Soviets occupying Eastern Europe for 45 years and ethnically cleansing millions of Germans and Poles.
>>219461234This is lowkey hot, forcing us to remember what they did to us, and mindbreaking us into thinking we deserved it
>>219462403They occupied you for 45 years retard and took half your country
was in a bumfuck village in austria and they had a soviet memorialmust be all over the place
>>219462445no they fucking didnt
>>219461234what a bunch of cucks, like just don't pay the maintanence nigga, dismantle it even, what russian timmies gonna do?
>>219462445They took the poor agricultural lands and handed them industrially developed German territories. I think it's a profitable exchange.
>>219462445Being a satellite state is not the same as being occupied, or else you could say the same about Japan and South Korea too (no, they are not occupied by the US).
>>219461234So just because russia doesn't honor agreements Germany shouldn't either? They're already building a base in Lithuania to support NATO border, what's the big deal about mowing some grass around a statue?
>>219462189Correct, you inflicted existence on untold millions of butthurt belters
>>219462445oh yes, it was terrible, the reds left behind hospitals, blocks of flats, roads, healthcare, education, industry - awful things. so glad all of that shit is being sold out to westoids nowadays
>>219462731>no, they are not occupied by the USThey are thoughever?
>>219462743It just signals that the Germans have no self respect lmaoImagine having to maintain the monuments of a country that ethnically cleansed large parts of your country, Epstein'd Berlin and forced East Germany to be communist until 1989, all because they "liberated" Eastern and Central Europe from the Nazis. Only the Western Allies actually liberated places. The only clean good thing the Soviets did was liberate the death camps and stop the holocaust, but that doesnt excuse the Soviets doing their horrible shit lmao.>>219463088>commie>>219462714A good deal in that perspecttive but still morally wrong>>219462698>commie>>219462731Debatable
>>219462403Wow, I haven't seen this on 4chan in a long time. You don't mean this ironically, right?
>>219461234im sure the (((neu europeans))) will tend to them forever.
>>219463537i mean this unironically. yes, the politics of the whole thing weren't perfect, but what politics are? the soldiers fought nazis and deserve all the monuments they got. don't go confusing me for some fucking zigger though, putin and his imperialist ambitions can go suck a dick.
>>219463393yes, i am a communist. not the same type as the ones who ruled the country i was born in for 40 years, but you cannot convince me they were worse than all the western capitalist chicken shit politicians
>>219462403>>219464036>>219464082i am also a tranny yes my grandfather is jewish how did you know?
>>219464138you dont need to be a communist to acknowledge the red army liberated the poles from exterminationregardless how they forgot to leave etc
>>219464138differentfag kekw
>>219464082>i'm not that type of communist because i support REAL communism>it better even though it factually wasn't and they were falling behind in every metric (probably an issue of not real communism, just have to kill more people)
>>219464178soviet union genocided Poles before the germans didjust a facthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD
>>219464138Poland was an agricultural shithole with prominent serfdom until WW2 though. Soviets did industrialise you.
>>219464178he's just the average modern polack, ignore him
>>219464223>the poorer country industrialized the richer one
>>219464181have you considered how fucking far behind the east was compared to the west, like way before the whole marxism-leninism thing?
>>219464258before ww2 hunger was a common occurence in rural areas and nobody knew how to fucking read, you dreamed about "great pooland" so hard you shat the bed
>>219464265>it's 100% not because russians are retarded and genetically subhuman tho
>>219464223True. While normal countries had centuries of progressive genebuilding along with cultural, intellectual development, the worthless poles are still cretin peasants and will remain that way for at least the next thousand years (unless terminated of course, which is the preferable solution)
>>219464036>>219464082Stalin's holy balls, I'd forgotten the last time I met a communist on 4chan, and a Pole at that. I'm a communist too, glad to see a comrade.>>219464138Poland had the largest Jewish community in Europe, so I'm 98% sure that among your great-great-grandparents there was at least one Jew, and most likely several. Me too, most likely.
>>219464213good, we're nationalist pieces of shit, most of us deserve it even nowadays. this country hasn't achieved anything on its own in like 400 fucking years and yet you polacks will still cry about "great pooland" every time somebody mentions that fact
>>219464299polan is in a really good place now. it was a rough 20th century. Im happy it ended well.
>>219464299are you talking about belarus or ukraine?every ethnic Pole was able to read and write you should be grateful your ukranian grandpa was allowed to stay in Poland and not deported to starve to death somewhere in donbass
>>219464329>so I'm 98% sure that among your great-great-grandparents there was at least one Jew,weren't they generally separated into pale of settlements and other ghettos?
>>219464353communists probably believe this unironically
>>219462731this is just an argument proving russians are subhuman>>219462314objectivity germans wanted to exterminated race of people only after they started losing the war so you can't know what would've happen
>>219464353>"great pooland"it IS a great poland though, youre in a window and need to keep it open but respectfully closed to all the shit that ruined the rest of our countries
>>219464372Lol, half of my family is Polish, and they were just as poor as ordinary Belarusians because they lived in rural Grodno. And yes, they also greeted the Red Army with joy.>>219464380Peasants cared about nationalism and origin much less than the intelligentsia and the bourgeoisie.
>>219461234Germany is only being GermanyLet them be
>>219464514> they also greeted the Red Army with joy.Why? They felt like industrialization was rolling into town? I could understand that.
>>219464514Poland was bad enough for my family to come here before both world wars. I don’t know what was happening there.> to escape extreme poverty, famine caused by potato crop failuresIt be like that for all of them huh
>>219465005He's lying and even if he's not he's ancestors must've been total subhumans or worse to be deported from Poland>>219465041Poland didn't have potato famine you retard. Poles were in Jamestown like any other new worlders
>>219461234the people who liberated the city, why not
>>219465041>He sailed to Poland and brought back farm laborers, who arrived in New Waverly, Texas, in May 1867. The agreement that Poles had with the plantation owners was that the farmers would be paid $90 >(equivalent to $2,073 in 2025), $100 ($2304), and $110 ($2534) per year for three years of their labor while the owners provided them with a "comfortable cabin" and food) >Poles paid back their owners for the ship tickets to America, often in installments. >By 1900, after years working on Southerners' farms, Poles had "bought almost all the farmland" in New Waverly, and were expanding their land ownership to the surrounding areas. One family still runs the biggest tobacco farm in my area.
>>219465089>Poland didn't have potato famine you retardThey came at different times, when my family came the cursory google search said that. Sorry, kartoffelnegger shit?
>>219465101>the people who liberated the cityfrom who the germans?>>219465105Poles didn't live in texas those were silesians
>>219462743The 2+4 Treaty is basically a quasi-constitutional international treaty. Ripping it up is basically equivalent to ripping up the German constitution.
>He cited instances where Polish farmers called their landlords massa>Texas blacks, referred to Poles as "'dem white niggahs' whom they hold in undisguised contempt" were apparently stunned by their high literacy rates,[45] according to Daniels.[47]
>>219463393>Only the Western Allies actually liberated placesGet ready to get drafted, for real this time
>>219465149> Ripping it up is basically equivalent to ripping up the German constitution.Good its outdated beyond repair for the 21st century, like most laws we have desu.
>>219465167when are you going back to russia?
>>219465005In general, yes, Soviet Belarus quickly became richer than Poland thanks to industrialization, and many wanted it to be the same, but in general, I think they simply hated the landowners, like typical poor peasants.>>219465041The Russian Empire was quite technologically backward, despite exporting a lot of food. Famine was a damn common occurrence.
>>219465209>, I think they simply hated the landowners, lipolish peasants owned their land even in the 1600s so i don't know what are you talking about ivan
>>219465147Sorry I’m not covering the based stuff. Poles did contributions to America, it was earlier on as you say. War heros and other cool things. Just shit posting. Do you really even think of them that way though? I thought the ones who went to America weren’t shit? Ambivalence?
>>219465232I'm talking about the Grodno region, nigga. Not everyone had 10 acres of land and a fucking tractor, so they had to work for those who had the land.
>>219465209>belarus became richer than Poland only after sta;om killed 1/3 of belarussians by using them as meat shield against the germans>>219465245Poles in america have much more -ski surname so they had more noble blood and today Poles are richer than germans english in US>>219465280you just sound like some resentful jew who stole home of a Pole who after soviets killed them or resettled them
>>219465320>Poles in america have much more -ski surnamemine is a ski, my first GF was a ski as well. my second gf was a wicz >:[
>>219465390>he fucked a ukrongmi as a szlachcic
>>219461234looks pretty cool imo
>>219465186Never been to Russia, just pointed out a core divide between two sides. Summed up with recent military spendings across the board it means only one thing - someone is going to war.
>>219465419she was Polish but I'm aware its precarious
>>219465390Chicago is a wild place, I saw subway signs in Polish on the red line and in the airport and it blew my mind
>>219466387I'm from the greater Springfield Massachusetts area. Lots around and a few notable pockets in suburban and rural areas. Ive heard Chicago is the big one
>>219461542I mean, a lot of those soldiers in the red army were from those same nations or from other slav nations, not all of them were russians
>>219466824Yes very diverse, like the SS.
