If you were a serf living in the Middle Ages of Yurop would you prefer being owned by a high noble, a knight, bishop, or abbot? Choose your master carefully and explain why.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK_BmWIDVdY&list=RDaK_BmWIDVdY
>>219774286isn't it fcked up that how normalised slavery is in christianity? you can't see this in islam
Hahahahahahaha How The Fuck Was Serfdom Even Real Hahahaha Like Nigga Just Walk Away From The Manor Like Nigga Just Leave Haha
>>219774327Disagree. When I served in Iraq pretty much everyone was owned, by debt or promise, to a lord or property (real estate) owner. Especially children. This happens all the time in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Especially Afghan/Pak because there are so many illiterate poor people.
>>219774327You're still a slave now, but to corporations and bureaucracy
>>219774327Bait so hilariously poor but somebody will still bite
>>219774286for me it would've been a knight, not too high on the nobility heirachy. Think he'd be more sympathetic to my problems that way.
>>219774378This
>>219774286most farmers weren't serves. They had to lease the land from an owner.Anyway in the case I am a serf I will take the abbot or bishop since they only take 10% of my produce and rarely go to war.
>>219774286Scandinavia short of Denmark never had feudalism personally. It was too decentralized. It functioned on the practice of large family clans living communaly out in the woods basically. Which hampered development and made the crown very poor obviously but it seems like a pretty comfy existance all things considered. You just lived isolated from the rest of the world out in the woods with your family and cousin wife and did your best to have food
>>219774286Abbot cuz abbots don't go to war ever. And that's a good thing (for me)!
>>219774286An Abbott. I'd much rather be forced to gather honey from their bee farms or harvest grain than become a meat shield for arrows. Plus the crosscuck has to at least pretend to be merciful, the lord can flay me alive with 0 compunctions.>>219774327Least disingenuous cockroach:
>>219774286Im a free Frisian bozoNo feudal masters for me
>>219775254You're not going anywhere.. Ostfriedlander!>In 1420, the East Frisian chieftains Ocko II tom Brok and Sibet Papinga [fy] formed an alliance to protect the Frisian freedom from the Teutonic Order; they reinterpreted Frisian freedom as political freedom from foreign rule, rather than freedom from feudal servitude.[15] In 1430, mounting opposition to the East Frisian chieftains culminated with the establishment of a "Freedom League", in which an alliance of Frisian communities attempted to end their quasi-feudal rule.[15] In the mid-to-late 15th century, the Frisian haedlingen recast the Frisian freedom to simply mean freedom from external taxation.[20] In 1464, one of the most powerful East Frisian chieftains, Ulrich I, had reorganised the eastern territories into the County of East Frisia, ending the Frisian freedom there and finally establishing feudal rule in the east.[32]
>>219774286>If you were a ser-ACK!
>>219775971>you're found out and promptly executed for thisAAAACK! indeed
>>219776028>you're found out and promptly exec-ACK!
>>219776067>Now don't be silly Robin my dear boy, you can't possibly hope to take me out with all the King's men!>Come on now, hand it over, the taxes.>Don't let the King wait, he gets very angsty with common thieves!
>>219774286Serfdom is alive and strong today. We call it wageslaving and consoomerism. The way enshittification is going where we will own nothing, we would come back full circle to medieval serfdom. Just this time it's CEOs and Megacorps instead of Princes and Kingdoms.
>>219776126>enter inawoods>Fail(two of your men mysteriously bled out)>Go back home before the night comes out and things get worse>Have an arrow the next morning sticking out your neck the moment you step out of your cuckshed
>>219776246>SEND FOR MORE REINFORECEMENTS FROM THE KING -AAACK>Arrows dart by but a single messenger escapes from the forest and tells the King of this horrible news!>The King replaces his head minion quite fast and sends even more men after you>tfw you're in deeper trouble than you are beforeIt's over..
>>219776375>send more men>fail the same way>go back home before night comes out the same way>Arrows sticking out necks the same way>3 years later king and family must get out of castle and attend tourney>more arrows sticking out necks
>>219776444>nothing personal peasent, I do as the lord commands
>>219776444>tfw it just suddenly occurred to you that since the king and his family were killed you've instigated another dynastic war or something because there's no real successor and the whole realm is now infighting because of your negligence in killing the king's family>much later your forest is burned to the ground because the war went on for too long and now everything needs to die so one of the noble pretenders can seize the throne finallyOof tough luck, Robin..
>>219774286I would be a Janny :)
>>219774327knightsthey had the most honor out the 4 i would say
>>219776682>enter woods in full armor>loose your footing in a ditch>die
>>219776686>Wagies and their massas start killing each>Me a NEETchad have to care about this because reasons
>>219776770>knight armor was cumbersome o algo they had no agilityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc
>>219776937>enter woods in full armor>start sprinting and do barrel rolls>gas yourself out in 5 minutes>you got 2 more hours of walking effort in full armor before you even reach the target area>lose your footing in a ditch>die
>>219774286We never had serfdom/feudalism here in the north. So I'd just bang my sister, make retarded babies and then die the next winter when our crops don't last long enough.
>>219777013Medieval armor was about the same weight (yes, full plate) as modern combat equipment which soldiers are expected to marsh, run and fight with for hours on end. And unlike the backpack and other gear modern soldiers carry, the weight of armor is evenly distributed across the body.
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>>219777079>breaks 4th wall kys, ill eat a swedish baby tonight for your crime>>219777079>Medieval armor was about the same weight (yes, full plate) as modern combat equipment which soldiers are expected to marsh, run and fight with for hours on end. And unlike the backpack and other gear modern soldiers carry, the weight of armor is evenly distributed across the body.sure go ahead and larp around trying to walk in full armor for a few hours, youll get over it.
>>219777110yep, go ahead and walk around off the beaten path in full armor for a few hours. Let me know how it works out.
>>219774286Abbot because il nome della rosa was kino (read it in fecalian)
>>219777155>>219777198You do realize they wouldn't have used armor if they couldn't run around in it right? Knights and soldiers in full plate were highly trained and used to it, just like modern soldiers. Or are you one of those retards who believe the old Hollywood myth that armor is too heavy and big battle weapons were heavy and slow?
>>219777235Its about motor control bro. Full armor bring it down to bellow zero points. You are not walking 5 2 seconds in a mostly straight line to meet the enemy who does the same to meet you.
Anyways it was fun thread>I was chosen by divine powers-ACK!
>>219777285You mean the motor control that let fully plated soldiers run around battlefields of various terrain, use everything from daggers to pole arms and grapple each other without issue? The same motor control that let them roll around like a Souls character if needed? The same motor control that let them do anything a naked man could? But thank you for confirming that you have absolutely no idea how mobile actual armor was. The other anon already posted a good video about it but here's another. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bnM5SuQkI
>>219777370Yea sure dont let me stop you from rolling around when you got a 2 hour walk to get to where you will begin your 6 hour walk and right now you need to go up some uneven terrain with double the normal effort cause your motor control is fucked.
>>219777435So you're just a troll. Understood.
>>219777435forgot pic
>>219777013>xhe thinks forest survival will work out yeah sure run away into the mountains with your family we'll see how winter treats you
>>219774327Says the religion with dysfunctional dicks.
>>219774286Sweden (Finland) Didn't have serfdom, it was illegal.
