Middle East could be a new Elysium / Eden if it had more canals and artificial rivers.
Because Brownoids are afraid of water (e.g. showers, baths)
and who will fund diggings of 1000km canal through empty desert?
>>219824163Literally wouldn't work and why would you build it anyways?
>>219824199Jews, ofc. Forget about the whole "Thicc Israel" part, just for agriculture, tourism and climate along, turning that desert-hole into an oasis would be amazing. And because of the war and the destruction of desalination plants, now people need even more fresh clean water.
>>219824237dunno jews lately only destroy various installations, not build it
>>219824221The Euro-Sumerian urge to transform Earth in Mankind's garden. It is the Will of the Sky Father.
>>219824263We have to wait until the war finish to see what happens next. Personally, I would like to see a GREEN Middle East, bringing back the megaprojects of Ancient Times.
>>219824290>check map of the Ottoman Empire >all those lands were part of it (except Iran and the inside of Arabia)>ottomans didn't do any megaproject to turn Middle East GREENAnon...
>>219824163Oil Arabs tried a few mega-projects already, they just always end up as failures because money can't buy intelligencehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Line,_Saudi_Arabia
>>219824237a lot of the rivers in that region are tapped out, farmers pull all the water they're allowed already, and desalination is still incredibly expensive, I forget the exact number but iirc it's cheaper to pump fresh water like +1000 km than it is to desalinate water locallyIran went ape building dams and doing water management during the 20th century, and that ended up triggering some ecological issues, I think they flooded an area that had a lot of salts and minerals that started dissolving into the water, so they turned a river into a salt lake that can't be used for anythingone of the reasons that megaprojects take so long and got so expensive is because of all the gay environmental studies and management you have to do, but if you skip that you'll find out that you irreversibly fucked up your ecosystem in 50 years when there's nothing you can do to fix it
>>219824163why do you want canals and rivers full of salt water?
>>219824358I know about this porject, if you check how it was originally (NEOM), it had the sizes of Kuwait.The thing is 'The Line' could have work as a mega-river instead of that retarded city and make Arabia more green and livable. The irony of Arabia having Islam as its official religion and for once that Islam has the right purposes: austerity, anti-idolatry, etc. And arabs don't pay attention to that part.
Good question.I thought about one these variations last week to see if i can benefit my country, to dig an additional channel so ships can pay israel money instead of egypt. The issue is not only distance anon, it's elevation. Much of israel as well as the middle east is filled with mountains making such a project so insanely costly that even if all of this area was controlled be a single peaceful country like switzerland, no one would want to invest however astronomical amount of money to dig a direct channel from kuweit to Mediterranean sea it because it's not likely they will make it back.. If i am a cargo company owners i am looking for the cheapest and safest option, yeah you might save me 2-3 days in ship travel, but if it costs me more, no point in picking you channel. Currently it takes a tanker 5-6 days to reach the Suez canal. So how much money will it save me?
Oil browns waste gigatons of money all the time constantly anyway. might as well try to build economically infeasible canals, it's probably more worth a try than other stupid shits they do.
>>219824367Don't get me wrong, I don't want to ruin the ecosystem even more that it's already. I just think it would be cool to see a green Middle East and by doing that make the ecosystem be better, not worst.
>>219824425But your point was: "Why people refuse to do megaprojects?". I remember some of the tiny Arab petro-states did something equally retarded and tried to build an artificial island in the Persian gulf, it ended up the same as the Line. Really makes you think how come that some people go to university and graduate with PhDs just to earn nothing, meanwhile some double digit IQ inbred retard in Riyadh or Dubai is wasting dozens of billions of USD on projects designed by Teletubbies
>>219824163digging canals doesn't increase the rain genius all this shit is next to the ocean and is a fucking desert
>>219824416Apparently even with salt rivers you can turn deserts into oasis:>blue carbon: re-flooding former agricultural land with seawater can transform degraded soil into productive salt marshes within a short period, and boosts biodiversity; >mineralization: enhanced weathering, helps rivers capture more from the atmosphere and transport it to the ocean for long-term storage; >mangroves: unique trees that thrive in saltwater, filtering out 90% of it, and are vital for coastal protection, help giving desertic land the first capes of biomasa that turn soil from sterile to fertile. I think it's worth it.
>>219824454>Much of Israel as well as the Middle East is filled with mountains making such a project so insanely costlyImagine if you and your arab homies use the nukes and missiles to wipe out this obstacles instead of killing each other.
>>219824629Aussie, read >>219824634
>>219824475there's been a lot of work on greening deserts these last few decades, and they all go with a "help plants get started on the fringes and then in a century or two things will be greener"super slow, but super cheap too>>219824494the gulf states know that time is ticking, at some point demand for oil will drop, and they'll go back to being camel herders living in tents, since they don't have any other natural resourcesDubai is the UAE's attempt at preparing for that, their logic is "eventually the oil will run out but all these buildings will still be here, and we can lean really heavily on tourism" which is probably a smart decision given they're basically a microstate with no comparative advantages other than oil
>>219824348suez canal was built during ottoman empirebritish only invaded and took it over
>>219824736Is that what they teach you in the Turkish history books?
>>219824665Again, even if this area was controlled by proto germany with their love for giant things, it is not worth it for shipping. If you can find immense benefits otside of it, then maaaaybe that'll be desireable
>>219824760literally google it you 2 digit iq retardso fucking weird you guys with your complexes
>>219824912Turks have a rather bad reputation, so I will assume you are serious. Suez canal wasn't operational for almost 1000 years when the French built it in the 19th century
>>219824969so you did google it and you are still going just how fucking stupid are youit was built by a french company in ottoman egypt during ottoman empire not "by the french"and the british took it over after invading
>>219824969>>219825014im not even going to reply to you this is just ragebait or you are genuinely retarded
>>219825014And who were the owners and engineers of the 19th century French company that built the channel? Turks? >ottomans didn't do any megaproject to turn Middle East GREENThat's the original claim that you did not like, btw. In fact, when the canal was built nobody even asked Ottoman permission, they went straight to the local Egyptian
More farming output means more population growth, why on earth would you like more brownoids roaming in this damned earth?
>>219824348spain controlled central america for like 3 centuries and never built either the panama canal, nor the nicaragua canal, both microscopic projects compared to building a shitload of canals through the middle eastit wasn't until 150 years ago that mining techniques and construction materials made it viable, and even then costs are still super highthe danube had a delta that made it a pain to navigate so they built a 40km. long canal to better connect it to the black sea only in the 1940s, and they had to use a bunch of forced laborthe russians and americans built massive railway networks also using a ton of forced labor... we may want to bring back slavery if we want to get shit done tbqh, it's no surprise the gulf states hire shitloads of indians for this stuff>>219825092we produce enough food for like 10 billion people already, and women are not having children
>>219825048you know ottoshits barely had any control over Egypt after Muhammad Ali took power, right? stop with the nominal claims. If ottomans actually had some power they would oppose such project knowing it would go against their interests which eventually happened
>>219824894>Spaniard (goy / pagan) talks about making Middle East green for the shake of it, to make it livable, a paradise on Earth>Israeli, a person that lives there, is only interested in the "muh man-made benefits" that only exist in humans' minds and don't exist in the real material worldSad.
>>219825174panama canal was still a pain in ass to build because elevation and unstable soils
>>219825174Well, Turkey owned all those arab lands (except Egypt) until 1918, AFTER the Industrial Revolution; Spain that lost all of its american lands a century before (around 1818), BEFORE the Industrial Revolution.It's not the same.
>>219825285yeahI think the spanish surveyed the area and considered a canal but realized the engineering was insane, then the french attempted it but couldn't pull it off, and then the americans struggled a bunch but eventually succeededdoing what OP wants would be 10,000x harder, and with very little economic incentive too, panama and the danube at least handle shitloads of trade, and they charge massive tolls to make it worth it, OP's plan would cost several trillions and at the end you just have some greenery, absolutely no government would approve this, those trillions could be used for something with better return on investment, like buying a lot of pedo islands
>>219824283>urge to transform Earth in Mankind's gardenbut why start from the middle east?
>>219825534Because somebody has to finally pacify those feral negroes.
>>219824163a trve mesopotamia....
>>219825551but they like to war
>>219825474sadly this is true. mega projects are all dead and if someone proposed to build something great they will call him insane
>>219825534Because we're descendants of Sumeria, my SPQRbro.>>219825551Also THIS.>>219825560Indeed, anon. We must bring back the Golden Age of Alulim, the First King.
If I bring cute desert maidens fresh drinking water to their isolated muddy trickle of an oasis will they let me watch them pee it out later, or is that a haram
>>219825754>we're descendants of Sumeria, my SPQRbro.we must also be descendants of people who left it
>>219825922Ofc, but we must take it back. All those lands were once part of the Whitedom, sadly they were lost to the desert and the brown peoples. But we must take them back and turn them GREEN again.
>>219826104they're currently killing each other so if we wait it out we could just go in and take the weakened winner
>>219825881>is that a haram?Follow the Primordial Truth, whitebro, create your own morality and impose it to them.
>>219826158The problem with that is that animals and plants will suffer, browns follow abrahamism (hate of Nature: kosher / halal food, dog-hating, cutting pagan trees and burning sacred forests, etc; abuse of innocents: circumcision and metzitzá b'peh), we (whites) love Nature and protect the innocent.Let Nature and innocents suffer is anti-white.
>>219824221Officials have to buy houses overseas, pls understand
>>219824634Why the landscape around Suez canal still a dry inhospitable dessert, then? Is it still need a long time for the land to turn green?
>>219826165Women don't like that (I am not attractive)
>>219826511>JBW (Just Be White) You will be surprise what brown women will do for white men (even if you're ugly).Perhaps with the advances of technology, surgery gets cheaper and you can Adonismax.
>>219826428>Suez>owned by EgyptAnon, perhaps the dudes that own the canal are not the best in their job.I mean, egyptians have been owning Egypt since 5,000 years ago and the desert has only grow instead of decrease.
>>219826585Fine, you got me, I am not an incel at all, I am a moralfag.
>>219826538What did they do wrong? I mean, we legit have a real life cas study. Are there any improvements to the environment near the canal? Are there any increasing greenery or not? What is the consequences of the canal to local eqosistem? etc... etc... We can study them for the future and bigger project.
>>219826604->>219826668
>>219824221>wouldn't work??how come?
>>219826538>>219826668climate change or some algo please understandeurope did thisetc
>>219826668Just one word: dysgenics >find fertile land >reproduce without control>allow anyone to reproduce because "there's food for everyone, climate is nice">retards reproduce more than intelligent people>consume all resources >destroy the land by overproduction for the constantly increasing population >war starts >population under control >land is abandoned due to destruction and nobody to cultivate it >land heals >restart again and again >fast forward, current era >industrial revolution, land is beyond repair, west can't stop pomp quadrillions to your dysgenic plague called population >get scifi 40k dystopian hiveminds like picrel all over Middle East>only solution: something so man-made (morality, ideologies, religions, etc. are not real) incorrect that nobody dares to do it>it will be only do it once the entire planet looks like picrel and people are so desperate they no longer care for false idols / spookies like morality (check out Universe 25 experiment)
>>219824454>as well as the middle east is filled with mountainsBrother, I do encourage you to look at the terrain in that stretch between Al-Hamidiyya and Homs. It is only 42 miles long (less than half of the distance across the planned Nicaragua Canal) and seems to be relatively flat in comparison to much of the East Mediterranean coast. From Homs onwards it's mostly flatland, so it should not be too troublesome to build a canal roughly parallel to the River Euphrates.>>219824629It may not necessarily increase rain, but it would certainly give alternatives to choking points like the Strait of Hormuz.
>>219824163>could benot with israel nearby.
Because most of these make no sense economically.There is perfectly fine sea lane between the gulf and the med and it's usable 99% of the time.Why build an expensive magaproject just for that 1% of the time Iran and America are in all out war?You're better off spending that money stockpiling gas/oil.
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>>219824736I suspect you're being retarded on purpose.
>spainjeet posting retarded maps with random lines with aislop delusions to back it up*taps the sign*
>>219826257it will be temporary suffering. after, we use the corpses to fertilize the fields
>>219824163for what purpose
