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What language(s) are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

**Comprehensible Input Wiki**
https://comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

Read the wiki:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw
>Books on linguistics and language courses:
https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ
>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua
>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
https://rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold
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/lang/ est mort
/lang/死了
/lang/ ha morido
/lang/ ئۆلۈك بولدى
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>>219832120
I guess everyone stopped learning languages
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I had to take a break but at least I did my Duolingo this morning
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>>219832430
>https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
/lang/ er død
/lang ist tod
/lang/은 죽었다
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>>21983389
fuck, accidentally pasted the link to the archive with input material
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>>219832120
I leveled up my Spanish over the weekend. If I do just 10 hours a day, I could get to level 4 in about two weeks.
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bumpino
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timing subs is not fun work. i really respect the people who do it now.
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>>219834406
Your life is like a video game
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>>219838045
What's that?
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China hasn't two more weeks yet. Quite contrary our(cunt) leaders continue to sell out. Americans are exhausting to work with. Is there any reason not to learn chinese from a career perspective?
Not particular interested in their qts, Korea is a lot better in that regard, unfortunately their job market sucks ass.
I already know some 한자, probably no more than ~300 though. Thought i go from there, seeing that modernised chinese is mostly the same with less strokes, or are there other pitfalls to look out for?
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Fellas with languages where it's relevant, did you guys end up picking a new name that makes sense in your language?
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>>219841988
Nah, my name transcribes well.
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>>219841919
>Is there any reason not to learn chinese from a career perspective?
China is difficult to get a job in (that's not English teaching)
you will never get permanent residency or be allowed to retire there unless you marry a Chinese woman
wages generally low unless working for a foreign company
very difficult business environment that works on totally different cultural assumptions and norms from the west and Korea/Japan. If you think Americans are exhausting to work with try working with Chinese guys, where they will never admit failure, never tell you anything is doing badly, never admit their mistakes... even when they are being as lazy as they possibly can (摸魚)
total lack of worker protections and rights, I've heard of teachers getting scammed out of several months of salary by their schools and the police don't care at all
frequent unpaid overtime
any job that you want to do, a Chinese guy can do it for 30% of the pay you want

>>219841988
you essentially have to in Chinese because they can't even remember English names, let alone pronounce them. To them an English name like Nicholas or Jack or Daniel looks as incomprehensible as Wang Yuefei / Qing Xiaozong / Xie Zhengu does to us
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Does anyone have any tips for learning Chinese if I already know some Japanese? I've passed JLPT N2.

I'm worried I might struggle with Chinese phonology, so I would like to at least learn the basics while I'm still in my early 20s and my language learning abilities haven't declined too much yet. I don't have much trouble memorizing characters, it's honestly been the most fun part of Japanese learning.
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>>219843057
Chinese phonology is easy, only French and Spanish natives actually struggle with it. Your language already has dz ts tsh dzh etc you'll be fine
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>>219843152
This whole tone thing sounds pretty complicated but okay
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>>219841988
i actually got a new name and specifically researched it so that it would sound natural and be easily pronounced anywhere (asia europe or america)
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>>219842191
A lucky man indeed

>>219842568
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out before my Chinese classes start. A part of me assumes the teacher might pick but I was going to try and research non-cringe names just so I could have options if she didn't.

>>219843277
Honestly, that's pretty smart
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Uni life will fuck up my input hours fuuuuuck
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I miss the petitalian and the Russian that couldn't decide between American and British English
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>>219841988
Every race except Indians have a form of my name, or my exact name. Pros of sharing a name with a saint I guess
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I'm 6 weeks into learning my TL, going on 7

Is it normal that my output is horrible? I feel like I dn't even have a basic grasp of beginner sentences when it comes to output. And I am outputting sentences but basically it feels like I'm just memorising phrases instead of internalising output

At 6 weeks complete, what sort of level should I be at? What sort of level should I be at 3 months Iran? This isn't for a hard TL like Arabic, Chinese and Russian. It's for Spanish which is supposed to be an easy one
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The Pokémon bug type challenge: If you can name the bug which each one is designed after, you are officially fluent in that language. https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sv/bug.shtml
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how old are you guys
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>>219842568
Oh, no. I didn't mean career as in moving there, but just interacting business wise.
I dunno, probably just a doompost as i had a lot of bad news yesterday. I'll probably ignore and just continue Korean.
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>>219844657
pick a name once you at least know some of the language and have an idea of what you might like

>>219848586
interacting is pretty aids
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>>219848200
19, you?
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>>219841919
>>219848586
Lass es sein, Brudi.
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>>219848200
37
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>>219848192
Why just bug type?
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>>219840965
doing this, setting subtitles to audio. i've tried using some realignment programs too to no avail.
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>>219850566
Why?...
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>>219850566
This nigga learning Croatian
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Croatian mentioned, rahh
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My least favorite word is "wir" (it means "we")
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>>219852078
https://youtu.be/XqXLgU26QaY
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>>219852393
In german? Why? It‘s simple to pronounce. wE-ahhhhh
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>>219852553
>watching travel vlog in German
>enjoying seeing the sights of Germany
>vlogger suddenly says "wir"
>realize she's not traveling alone
>realize she's probably traveling with her bf, and just not showing him so that she can get more views
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>>219850093
23 and I feel so old
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>>219852879
I am 26. You ain't unc yet lil bro
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Every now and then duolingo thinks the simplest basic german words are "new" for me, it's so weird
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>>219852675
Wir is also used as "me and you guys"
>Morje, wir sind hier heute in der sonnigen Tiefeifel
>Morje, wir schauen uns heute mal diesen Kartoffelschäler an
>Morje, heute wollen wir diesen Branntwein verkosten
Even though the person sits alone in front of the camera.

You still have a chance, anon.
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>>219853533
Someone that's Dutch learning German with English as their teaching language seems retarded.

it would be like someone that's dutch learning German and using Chinese as their teaching language, though not quite as extreme
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>>219854573
I no longer hate the word "wir"
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>>219852879
>>219852946
I’m 28 with children. I feel like an old man, but I like it.
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>>219855070
28 isn't old.
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AAAARGHHH...
*musters all of my strength to stand up*
*sits on chinese-learning britbong and crushes him under my mass*
*scratches my plump belly*
*yawns and smacks my lips*
*bench cracks and collapses underneath us*
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>>219858580
>chinese-learning britbong
That nigga is Chinese-mastering, not Chinese-learning
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>>219841988
Originally I had a name that was just a translation of my real name, but it felt like too much of a joke so I had a proper name chosen by polling.
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did the input grind
working on the output grind
input was more fun
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Not sure where to ask this so I'll ask here
Anyone knows a Chinese mainland imageboard? I know there's one but I don't have the name.
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hej
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>>219861302
Tieba, but its owned by Baidu
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>>219861500
Comeon man I mean imageboard in the traditional sense
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>>219861573
Nigga, their government doesn't allow that lmao
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>>219862424
As if government bans were ever effective, let alone on software
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if they bugmen even had their own underground imageboards they sure as hell wouldn't be letting the gweilo learn about it
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>>219858580
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm

>>219861302
there do exist imageboard sites with similar anonymity (you can't show your name to other posters) and they are called 树洞 but they are pretty much just government honeypots since you have to register with your ID to post and read. Most of them don't allow people outside their organisation.
When I was studying in China the university's 树洞 got shut down temporarily because students and staff were complaining about how an olympic ping-pong athlete was given automatic entry without exams to a masters program at the university. So yeah they basically don't exist. Chinese people who are interested in imageboards, anonymity, anything other than the latest celebrity slop gossip on weibo usually have VPNs and they just post on the western internet (particularly reddit and xitter)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQe2wWSnrCo

Goebbels is so much easier to understand in recordings than Hitler. Kind of cool to be able to listen stuff like this sans subtitles. Kind of morbidly amusing when he assures his audience he and his family will stay in Berlin to the end. I guess they did.
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>>219865072
The whole thing was just complete surreal. He walks out of his safe bunker to give a speech that nobody will listen to. I guess they all cracked at the end.
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>>219861302
taiwan has actual anonymous BBSes and imageboards while the mainland requires id/phone number verification for literally everything so there is no true anonymity anywhere on the internet. similar problem in south korea where you have to attach your real full name to every account online because the government wants to stop "le cyberbullying" or whatever excuse they came up with to justify such measures
either way imageboards are dying everywhere, even in japan, because zoomies want to use platforms like leddit, dicksword and xitter
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>>219854793
4 years ago when i started there were complaints about courses from dutch to other languages so i decided to go for english
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>>219851371
the short story is that i liked this movie and the croatian subs from netflix seem to match pretty much exactly what is actually being said by the characters. so i want to use it as mining material.

The problem is i have to do the timing myself.

>>219852042
das rite. there's more input material available than i thought, but its hard to find stuff where there are subtitles and they match the actual spoken content.
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Why did I have to make the /lang/ general this time? Are people here slipping?



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