>>220250137I'm 25 and I never talked to a girl
>>220250152Same
>>220250152I'm 26 and I will die without ever having had intercourse
it's the end of the world as we know it
>>220250175Is that a good or bad thing
>>220250194Bad low IQ genes (incels) will disappear from the genepool, like mine for instance, in the last few years I've learned how genuinely stupid I am it hurts tbqh
>>220250152>>220250167lucky bastards
>haha look at these Japanese virgins, a whole 20% of adults lmao>west maybe 10%>later>haha look at these Japanese virgins, a whole 50% of adults lmao>west maybe 20% now>later…They were simply ahead of the curve
>>220250137https://youtube.com/shorts/arQRwJYh_pM?si=zheIpECPXguUC0hZGen z men are twice as likepy as limp-wristed boomers to say things like "women should obey their husbands".
>>220250137I had it a few months agoIt's tight and wet and whatever but it's so fucking overrated it's unrealCompletely took off the mystique of it and I don't care to ever do it againDon't care about women sexually anymore and I just talk to them as if they were fag men now, which funnily enough attracts them for some reason
>>220250224>Bad low IQ genes (incels) will disappear from the genepoolOh great, even more germanophobia from /int/'s Germanophobe-in-Chief!
>>220250137Men's patience with female's bullshit ended
>>220250224Did you know that having lower IQ means higher SMV in the dating market? Ricemens abysmal SMV proves this too.
>>220250586You can have bad genes and a high IQ, but you cannot have good genes and a low IQ, many good looking people are above average IQ as well, and ultimately high IQ also correlates with success which can be a compensation for below average physical appearance, but if you have neither, like me, it's suifuel, but I find it sort of liberating
>>220250754you can just get an arranged marriage in your shithole
>>220250152i angered the one and only girl that has ever liked me by asking her how much she weighed since i wanted to compare her weight to mine
>>220251002Fuck off normie
>>220251002You normie PIG!
>>220250224I dont want to give up till I draw breath
>>220251008aye sire eggy, king of inceldom
If it doesn't happen by 30 I will use the wizard powers I acquire by then to kill myself
>>220251133i will protect you from yourself
>>220250417You will get addicted to it after a few times.
>>220250137Society is collapsing. It's not acceptable to meet people ANYWHERE.Also, why don't people matchmake anymore? In the past if you were 25 and single, your friends would suggest someone to date. Today you just hop on tinder.Why did "setting someone up" die?
maybe w*men should stop being insufferable garbageI see a foid, my mind autoreplaces it with a heavily used dumpster it's all barely sentient trash
>>220251188People just don't make friends anymore. They don't have fun and they aren't happy.
>>220251209Interesting theory. The end of fun.
Internet incels have a crab-in-a-bucket mentality, like an egregore trying to increase celibacy.Benefiting only those who don't use the internet.
>>220251251tb h it's not everyone but it is a growing demographic.There's a big issue with listlessness and people supplementing fun activities with online stimulation instead.I speak as someone who's also impacted by it, as are probably most people on here (except for the mentally checked out boomers ofc).
>>220251188>Society is collapsing. Bothering with people is troublesome and energy-draining. And with women much more.Yes, we've had some philosophers and writers in times before who exposed the nature of women. But nowadays we have the internet, where they expose themselves and it's all demoralising. Yeah, maybe some good ones exist, but after seeing what they post on the internet, no one wants to take the risks.Not to mention: no affordable housing, no affordable cars, the world is changing by months, no stability, no faith in the future.
>>220250137Gen Z is gayer than ever
>>220250417This and>>220251167This
>>220251188>Society is collapsing.Terminally online chudcel fantasy cope
>>220251253it's not incels making w*men go online and show the world just how terrible they arethey chose this
>>220251253>egregoreLearned a new word ITT, nice
>>220250137Constantly told to respect women, rape bad, flirting bad, approaching women bad, etc.Surprise surprise, a whole generation of men who don't wanna risk losing their jobs or being shamed.As for women? They're retarded and expect men to do all the work.
>>22025013725, sex is easy to getBut sex with someone you genuinely care about... Not so much
Is this entire thread incel bot spam or do you spergs actually believe this crap
>>220251410Normies should get out of here.
>>220251401> easy to get
>>220251401>25, sex is easy to getI won't exhibit the crab mentality mentioned here >>220251253 and I'm happy for you that you are able to get sex if you wanted, but I don't think that's true for the majority hereBut I would agree that doing it with a loving partner is probably more intense, not that I would know
>>220250137I'm blackpilled AF!!!(Aldoe technically I'm not Gen Z)
>>220251401This. I want a wife, not a stupid fling with a whore.
>>220251494I don't need a wife i just need to have sex with girls but i'm an incel
>>220251410No, I believe the fault (or deficit rather) lies with me aloneBut I'm unwilling to improve myself so I just rot away slowly, I never really thought it was the women's faultLike this here >>220251386I agree that actions like flirting and approaching women are not really accepted anymore, but I understand the underlying reason for it, which is that women don't want creepy stragers talk to them out of the blue. If I were a women, I'd feel the same. Anyways, I remember when I was 18, 20, 23 and now 26Soon enough some more years will have passed and I still won't have progressed forward. I have arranged myself with the status quo for the most part, I just like to complain so I made threads like this.
>>220250137It’s even lower than that if we’re talking specifically about men, because zoomer women are more sexually active than ever
>>220250137they just don't respect women enough. they'll get sex once women are all the presidents, governments, judges, billionaires ecc.
>>220250137This was me exactly 10 years agoI still haven't lost the v-card yetBut it will happen before I turn 30 for sure
>>220251547This might be true for you, but not in general. There are turbosluts who fuck around a lot, but there's also a lot of girls who don't. Virginity rates don't differ that much between men and women.
>>220251528>I agree that actions like flirting and approaching women are not really accepted anymoreWeird incel narrative that isn't true.Cold introductions with strangers that go straight into flirting are not going to be received well, that is true for the past as well as now.
>>220251547>because zoomer women are more sexually active than everAre they? I think similarly to Gen Z men, there are those who are really sexually active at the top, and then an increasing share of women get left behind and remain virgins.
>>220251604proof? im blackpilled on finding a wife since i think all women are sluts after high school
>>220251610>Are they?No, again it's another weird incel narrative.
>>220251581> they just don't respect women enough
>>220251528If it's not women's fault then who's is it? Definitely not men's fault. Don't understand why it's so hard to hold women accountable for their actions and behaviour.
>>220251610Foids usually tend to lie about their body count(they lower down the number) when men tend to inflate the body count + Even if they are "celibates" they are still chad only volcels and tjere is no such thing as femcel.
>>220251608>Weird incel narrative that isn't true.Sorry, I'm slow, I don't get the pointIncels claim flirting/approaching is not en vogue anymore, but the truth is that it was never a good way to begin with? Is that what you're saying?
>>220251188"Arranged marriage" was unironically a thing in the west until very recently. My parents' marriage would be considered an "arranged marriage" if it happened in india. They were both single beyond a certain age so they adults in their life kept trying to set them up until they got married. A part of the reason this has stopped is becuase we don't live in communities like we used to. Even though my mum and my dad didn't know eachother, there were lots of mutual connections between family memebers and friends so that the family of both of them knew that there was an eligable bacholer(ette) of the same age and they could coordinate together to get them to hangout together a few times. Because of immigration and economic liberalisation these days, people move around and don't neccesarily know their neighbours anymore.
>>220251410What crap? It's a polite discussion.
>>220251547say it aint so
>>220251685Then why are reported virginity rates going up for both sexes at the same time?>>220251692100% believable.
>>220251604I’m not talking about myself since I’m only a turboslut on the internet, but from what i’ve seen women in general can get hookups very easily nowadays with dating apps and social media, and it's more socially acceptable to sleep around>>220251610Hmm the gap between men and women is only expanding with each generation
>>220251711tel aviv is literally one of the most degenerate places on earth
>>220251664>If it's not women's fault then who's is it?I'd say it's the individual's, regardless of gender. Although saying "fault" is pretty harsh.Some people are just socially inept, have phobias or are autistic and you can't really blame them for how they act due to their condition. But one thing I've learned is that whenever someone complains about how it's the cruel and unfair world's fault, usually they neglect their own capacity to improve.In general, only few people are beyond saving here and most men have a chance at finding love or at least losing their virginity without having to pay for it.You can disagree with this view of course, this is just how I feel about it and I won't impose it on others.
>>220251707Women think they didn't have sex if they didn't like it(i.e. he was ugly or he had small dick or sth). And also women tend to lower down intentionally their body count when they're reporting it to the others.
>>220251650it's true. there's still guys that don't bow down every time a woman passes in front of them.
>>220251689I'm saying the idea that it's impossible to flirt and approach women in a certain way that was possible in the past is bulllshit.Trying to hit up a stranger on a bus or just out walking somewhere will of course get you branded as a creep before and now.Flirting in other settings, like social events, is about the same as it's always been, in fact it's probably more acceptable now than in the past.
>>220251735Even if that were true what i said applies almost everywhere else, especially in liberal western countries like britain :>
>>220251590
>>220250137We are Last Men
>>220251838> Flirting in other settings, like social events, is about the same as it's always been, in fact it's probably more acceptable now than in the past.If you're a chad then yes. Don't try this if you're not too.
>>220251838I see, thanks for clarifying
>>220251590>But it will happen before I turn 30 for sureanon...
>>220251648>>220251610>>220251711Most of the statistics I could find don't show much difference between non-sex having women and men.
>>220251838>>220251608Woman in the thread!DANGER!WOMAN IN THE THREAD
>>220251871>it's impossible to flirt in social settingsAre you a mutant or cripple or something?*checks flag*oh, Korean. My condolences
>>220251871>Don't try this if you're not too.I would agree with you here.Nowadays the clubs and many social events have "Awareness Teams" who are people standing by the sidelines that you can talk too if someone has creeped you out, touched you and harassed you. If a guy goes around at a party or club trying to approach women and gets rejected over and over (or even just once), he might get kicked out.
>>220251891Most stats actually show that women are more loyal and preference long term monogamous relationships more then men, your graph is the perfect example of it.A lot of incel rage is literal projection and jealousy at whores whoring around because most men (especially modern coombrained ones) only want holes to fuck, and they want as many as possible, just like they see in their pornos. The fact that they aren't a part of that scene IRL while it comes so easily to whores is what enrages them.
>>220251167I got told that so I did it a few more times and decided normalfags need to get the rope.I get more pleasure from vidya and dining.
>>220251917>Nowadays the clubs and many social events have "Awareness Teams" who are people standing by the sidelines that you can talk too if someone has creeped you out, touched you and harassed you.Lmao what a stupid fucking lieWhat events are you going to that have these? I thought you said you were 26+ years old earlier? I could only imagine a few ridiculous on-campus uni events might do it because the administrators have been forced to by a student union or something.>If a guy goes around at a party or club trying to approach women and gets rejected over and over (or even just once), he might get kicked out.Kek yeah if a creep is so obvious at an event that it becomes known to literally everyone there than you'd expect something to be done to eject them.
>>220251891In the pic the germ posted the gap was 10% in 2018, and the gap widens further in 2023
>>220251754Yeah I don't buy it. It just comes off as a sweep it under the mental illness rug. No, there's something wrong on a more deeper level. Women take everything for granted and are never told they're wrong. Nearly everything in modern society is to the benefit of women. I definitely think society plays a great part into their behaviour and especially social media where they are constantly praised and essentially have a safe space. In a way it's also men's fault for being such easily manipulated simps and promoting these kinds of women. TL;DR: Spineless simps ruined society and as a result ruined women
>>220252047the gap in your pic is like 3% for neverhavers though
>>220251838>>220251608Ignore the woman.Women say this stupid shit as if they were talking for all women and then it turns out many women would love to be approached.Just approach her and be aware of her attitude, if she seems uninterested back off, if not continue.There's a reason why fuckboys ignore woman "advice", it's garbage
>>220252026>I could only imagine a few ridiculous on-campus uni events might do it because the administrators have been forced to by a student union or something.Yeah I'm talking about these since that was the last time I've really gone to parties>Kek yeah if a creep is so obvious at an event that it becomes known to literally everyone there than you'd expect something to be done to eject them.You're right, I'd kick him out too, but what the Korean guy and I point at is that you may come off as a creep even if you don't mean to. And that's a fear unattrative men have, therefore they won't even try to approach women at a party.For me personally, I would feel like bothering them so I never approached anyone myself. I felt like women have a right to go out without being bothered by guys, so I never considered going up to one.
>>220250417Curious, because I jusst had my first with a french girl yesterday. I was nervous and my body was in fight or die mode. At first I lasted a few minutes, afterwards we did some more, it didn't feel as I expected –it's almost like a human glove over your bird – lastly we did it raw for half an hour and it was the most fullfilling experience I've sexually had. It's a very animalistic need, which should be done with someone you love.As >>220251167 said>You will get addicted to it after a few times.
>>220252105Hmm yes my mistake, was talking about sexhavers in a given year, but even the gap between male and female neverhavers is widening ever since the advent of social media
>>220251838>Flirting in other settings, like social events, is about the same as it's always been, in fact it's probably more acceptable now than in the past.Based on what? And what social events?Ask older people where they met and it's extremely common that they have a very random story. Today, everyone in a relationship only meet in "preapproved" places, i.e. apps or bars. That's it.Tell me three, just three, "social events" where it's acceptable to flirt?
>>220251133Then you won't be able to enjoy your wizard powers, silly.t. High level archmage
>>220252026>>Nowadays the clubs and many social events have "Awareness Teams" who are people standing by the sidelines that you can talk too if someone has creeped you out, touched you and harassed you.>Lmao what a stupid fucking lie>What events are you going to that have these? I thought you said you were 26+ years old earlier? I could only imagine a few ridiculous on-campus uni events might do it because the administrators have been forced to by a student union or something.We have these too in Binland.
>>220252047The problem with this is that they look at ages 22-34, which is a huge rangeIf they only looked at 25+ or 30+, I would speculate that the gap between nonhaver men and nonhaver women would be quite wide.Sadly there is no data chart with those exact numbers, I've looked before, it's always something like 18-25 or 22-34
>>220252116>Yeah I'm talking about these since that was the last time I've really gone to partiesSo you haven't actually gone to a party in years?>but what the Korean guy and I point at is that you may come off as a creep even if you don't mean to. And that's a fear unattrative men have, therefore they won't even try to approach women at a party.You act as if talking and flirting with a woman is a totally one way street initiated by a guy, that there isn't any engagement or whatever to be gained talking to someone of the opposite sex. You should at the very least be talking to people, male or female, because you want to. And then if a connection or bond or something is gained, hopefully with a woman, then that could go somewhere more interesting for the two of them.Your mindset it kind of an example of the stuff I hate from incels, it's only seeing woman as devices to fuck, and then getting frustrated when you don't get that outcome, because apparently nothing else suffices.I can talk to women at parties and not have it go anywhere and still enjoy myself. I think the best thing is life is to just have that passion and interest in other people, and that has to be the most fundamental part of forming a connection with someone.
>>220251980shut up feminist
>>220251980https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103109001048?via%3Dihub> However, as predicted, single women were more interested in poaching an attached man rather than pursuing a single man. What drugs are you on, roastoid?
Women want to be treated like expensive precious pets. And they will never give you anything in return, except for betrayal maybe.
>>220250137what's the issue? sex is not that interesting
>>220251847yep its grim herei just want pure unadulterateed love, man
>>220252244>>220252244>So you haven't actually gone to a party in years?Yeah, but has anything changed fundamentally? Parties are still the same as 3 years ago, I'd hope.>I can talk to women at parties and not have it go anywhere and still enjoy myself. I think the best thing is life is to just have that passion and interest in other people, and that has to be the most fundamental part of forming a connection with someone.I think you're right on this one. Back then, I had the most fun when I went without any expectations. I did talk to women in passing, like if there was someone from my seminars and my group and her group would meet up there by chance, sometimes you get into smalltalk or longer conversations. That was nice.>Your mindset it kind of an example of the stuff I hate from incelsAs I've said before, I don't harbor resentment towards women, so I wouldn't consider myself an incel.
>>220252241>nonhaver men and nonhaver women would be quite wideit is but not that muchthere is a percentage of women who are both shy and dislike "chads" (because unlike what the internet says not every woman loves a promiscuous guy), and those are condemned to permavirginness because they're way too neurotic to make the first moveback when society wasn't terminally retarded they just got approached by nerdy guys but now those guys dont approach because they ate the femshit propaganda
>>220252241That would matter if the gap only showed up in that 22-34 range, but it doesn’t. Even in narrower groups like 18-26 men are still much more likely to be sexually inactive than women
>>220250224>low IQ genes are getting filteredlollmao
>>220251917>>220252231Yeah and as expected the biggest factor they filter those "creeps" out is your face, height, race.
>>220252346Alternative conclusion:Modern society doesn't reward high IQ (independent) men, it rewards obedience.
>>220252198>Tell me three, just three, "social events" where it's acceptable to flirt?It's a pretty stupid way of looking at it, it's not that there are social events where it's acceptable to flirt, but tonnes of events and activities where, if you actually strike a connection with someone, you can flirt.Group jogging events, organised hiking groups, cooking courses, yoga classes, painting classes.There are tonnes of activities you can sign yourself up for and meet people. Though of course your average incel is going to label them all as gay and lame because they take time away from seething about women on manchurian cornhusking forums.
>>220251980>slutting around is exaggeratedi actually do believe this, or rather, want to believe thist. romancechadcasual sex is a modern phenomena and not a "natural thing" at all
>>220252198If you want to meet women, it's a numbers gameJust approach them, they're not a monolith so some will be annoyed but some will be happy about itIgnore the "socially acceptable" crap, nobody actually cares, just be direct, hesitating makes you look creepier
>>220252382>Though of course your average incel is going to label them all as gay and lameI wouldn't sign up for any of them because I'd label them gay, but rather, as the French anon put it >>220252343, I'd be "way too neurotic to make the first move"I would feel out of place there since, feel like everyone would judge me and look at me and so onIt's like they can sense my social inaptitude, so I'll avoid activities like these and stick to those that can be done alone, sadly including doomposting on here
>>220252434>because I'd label them gay*NOT because, whoops
>>220252345you should have sex with as many sexually inactive men as you can to rectify that
>>220252340>Yeah, but has anything changed fundamentally? Parties are still the same as 3 years ago, I'd hope.The type of parties you go to in your early 20s/ uni years are going to be different to later 20s.>I think you're right on this one. Back then, I had the most fun when I went without any expectations. I did talk to women in passing, like if there was someone from my seminars and my group and her group would meet up there by chance, sometimes you get into smalltalk or longer conversations. That was nice.Yeah I do think campus activities are much nicer for engaging community and people.>As I've said before, I don't harbor resentment towards women, so I wouldn't consider myself an incel.Yeah I didn't mean to be too mean, you have a much better level of introspection than most people itt, I just want to point out how bad the kind of mindset around flirting you expressed it.I forgot to add my main point, what I wanted to say is, you shouldn't be so deathly worried about flirting with women because it's ultimately a two way street. If someone is not interested they will let you give you a million hints about it and you should give up.It's only if you're massively overbearing and won't let up that a woman would turn to some kind of help to shake you off. And you shouldn't be that way anyway when meeting someone, women can smell from a mile away if you're coombrained and simply trying to chat them up for sex and 99/100 won't be interested except maybe if you're chad tier. Deep down you should be talking to someone over some point of interest, then if you're lucky it evolves into something better.
>>220250582João telling it like it is
>>220252492I see, thanks for the adviceI'd agree with the "talking about interests" part, I guess as a woman if you feel like a guy is only talking to you out of purely sexual interest, you'd feel used and uninterested (unless, as you said, the guy is just really really attractive)
>>220252434>>220252449lel I wouldn't mind if you labeled them gay, they're probably more typical experiences you'd have here in Australia or when travelling overseas. There might be other more common activities in Germany, or at least other things you yourself are interested in.Do you have any male friends? It kind of sounds like your issues stem from social inexperience than anything else.Kind of the whole point I'm trying to make here is, people in general want to form connections with each other, to bond over shared experiences and interests. That's how social engagement happens and it's pretty much the ultimate joy of living.Being obsessed with fucking a woman or losing your virginity or whatever is like skipping a step. Really you're in your best state to meet women with a solid social circle, when you can go to a party or do an activity with a friend, you can speak as a group, see someone who shares some interest or whatever with you and develop that further.This might all sound a bit twee and "bee yourself" type thinking but I think it's all the truth.
>>220252474sry i don't do community service :]
>>220252401>"It makes you feel dirty/used"And then they wonder why guys get disgusted at their bodycount. It's the same shit except with guys thinking that the ran through women are only settling with them after finishing their slut phase at a point where their SMV decreased. It makes most guys wonder if those same women would have dismissed them as losers during their slut phase. Either way, it certainly leaves you feeling used.
>>220252579The thing about the friend circle is definitely true, back when I was studying there were a guy and a girl who were friends at first for almost two years and then they got together after they realized they like each other as people as well as sexually.
>>220252549>I guess as a woman if you feel like a guy is only talking to you out of purely sexual interest, you'd feel used and uninterested (unless, as you said, the guy is just really really attractive)Yeah and of course women get this a lot as well.I also think women are just much less interested in a man's looks than vice versa, so long as you aren't a lardass or some other physical deformity.>>220252736Yeah honestly I can barely lecture because I tend to neglect my social life and it barely exists (if at all) at the moment.But when I do get the opportunity to socialise I find just wanting to make a connection and keeping an open mind leads to the best time.
>>220250137No libido because of dogshit corpo goy daycare
>>220250224trvke
>>220252492>If someone is not interested they will let you give you a million hints about it and you should give up.Aren't you also literally autistic and the same aussie who made a thread months back asking how to get a guy's attention and thought pretending to not like him was a good idea?
>>220252907Didn't people back in the early 20th century slave away 12 hours shifts in the factory and then still conceive 7 children >>220252822I liike that attitude, going in with an open mindsetKudos and best wishes
>>220251838>Trying to hit up a stranger on a bus or just out walking somewhere will of course get you branded as a creep before and now.Bus isn't bad as long as you have a casual conversation in mind to make it go fluidly. If you're attractive, a woman would more than open up for it. That's exactly the type of convenient situation most people would want to end up under when they see an attractive person.
>>220251704It ain't. There was a study done and they found out that there are more virgin women than men. The cohorts was of ages 18-35, the amount of women that hadn't had sex once in their life was at around 38% for men it was at 27%. When will you realize that the shit women say about their sexual partners are lies to inflate their value? To make you jealous? Why do you take at face value things that some random women say on a mic in a shitty tik tok vid ?
>>220250754Good and bad genes only matter relative to civilization, because being civilized is the only comfortable and dignified way to live a human life. Good genes are for the most part recessive and can only be rarefied in a population by monogamy. The structure of a monogamous nuclear family is as essential and inherent to human civilization as farming, money, and writing. In traditionally monogamous societies industrious men are incentivized to be industrious for the reward of pussy, and everyone therefore prospers because the whole of society nets the maximum amount of core infrastructure out of them, voluntarily. Women are attracted to anything they're told to depending on female gossip, religious doctrine, and other vectors of propaganda; all female attraction is based on social status. In civilized societies, industrious men are rewarded with social status, and then women are rewarded with social status for being mothers. Even civilizations on their way to developing understand this. Motherhood is a venerated position of social status in every primitive culture. Good and bad genes relative to anything else is irrelevant and will not serve. Like, a woman saying "5'11 is too short for me." Therefore by your heuristic, a man who can't sleep with her has bad genes? It's literally just the sex fetish of a bonehead who was EPI'd at 11 on the internet by erotic literature and lately she averaged 7hrs a day scrolling tiktok for the last many years, all of her female gossip is tailored for her by a computer algorithm, and the religious institutions of our modern societies are feeding her with utter gay race communism slop. This is not a civilized human. Her input on what constitutes good or bad genes does not stand up to scrutiny. We don't know what she would have been like without her terrible upbringing, and so there's no way to tell if the smallness of mind is inherent to her lineage specifically.
>>220251383Please don't taint your speech with substack-tier jargonism
>>220253139>The cohorts was of ages 18-35, the amount of women that hadn't had sex once in their life was at around 38% for men it was at 27%.Way too big of a cohortI think if you split that up into 18-22 it would be an even number of men and women who are virgins, maybe 23-25 as well but after 25 to 30 and certainly for 30-35, there would be way more male than female virgins
>>220252382>seething about womenCrazy projection. We're just discussing a societal problem here.
>>220250137Thinking about sex is way more fun than having sex
Oi lads, don't forget. A real man...
>>220253354Indonesia lol
Just the fact that people need advice on how to make a friend a or how to ask someone on a date shows that something has gone wrong.Am I wrong?
>>220252983>Didn't people back in the early 20th century slave away 12 hours shifts in the factoryyeah and they walked thirty miles uphill on their way to AND from said factory
>>220253483But they had walkable cities doe.
>>220253469I don't think you're wrong but if you have Gen Z who were raised with digital tech and less human-to-human contact than any previous generation (both with less siblings due to smaller family sizes as well as friends and romantic interests), then I'm not surprised at the outcome
>>220253628>less siblings due to smaller family sizesUnderrated observation possibly.
>>220251401Literally me, want to lose the v card. But I want the first time to be something special with someone important not just a hooker.
>>220250224This level of introspection is quite literally the opposite of low iq, bro. >>220252346>>220252368>it rewards obedience.Correct. Which is a sign of lower IQ. Society is just going back to the way humans used to be hundreds of years ago. Nature and evolution is just showing that modern civilization are not capable of surviving for very long, relatively speaking
>>220250137Most retarded generation that has ever existed
>>220255164...are the boomers.>>220254635Ancient people had higher IQ, because they had no society to rely on and had to kow dozens of practical skills. Agriculture resulted in massively shrunken brains (18% smaller).
>>220254635>>220255380But why would you want to value a lifestyle where you have to be in survival mode all the time? Imagine looking every corner every day having to think about how to get food, what to fuck, what to kill, planning ahead, etc. Misery inducing.
>>220255582I'm not valuing it. I'm just correcting a fact. I like my life a lot.
>>220253197I read your entire post, and all I have to say to you is that the Biopsychosociol model is the only way to explain modern civilization, biology informs the psychology and psychology informs the social dynamics which then stabilizes into culture, today women get wet for 6'4 finance or techbros, but they're still attracted to an archetype, tall-handsome, successful, and yes, tall-handsome is a trait, you can have a butt ugly face aesthetically but you'll be considered handsome if you're tallWomen select for the best mates, if you're an Incel throughout your life then it means you're unattractive
>>220257464Women select for social status If you give social status to the 'worst mates' then they will select for them
>>220258640And social status is correlated to Higher IQ and Higher IQs are correlated to physical and mental wellness
>>220258752When it's inorganically contrived by numbers and heart symbols on a screen, no the fuck it isn't lol
>>220258829It's contrived by social achievement, particularly professional achievement, a doctor or an investment banker is going to get dates, even if they're mediocre, it's well established that some professions are really higher iq on average, so that's the social part, as for physical part, it's also established that people with higher incomes and social status are generally good looking
>>220258978The word contrivance implies that it was not an achievement
>>220251251finally
>>220259097>Frenchman hates fun
>>220250137Dating is cursed now I don't know what they want t. 27 zillenial
>>220259065Yes, I'm stupid like that, and you're probably right, but what's your ultimate theory to explain this if not genetics then? It's no argument that incel neets are largely inferior, if not genetically then socially, but they're inferior aren't they? So even if you discard genetics, it doesn't change the fact that women select for stability and security still, over shallow physicality
>>220252983>Didn't people back in the early 20th century slave away 12 hours shifts in the factory and then still conceive 7 childrenyou mean when divorce, marital rape and the pill didn't exist?yeah
>>220259270It's not a theory it's just my observation that women>are attracted to anything they're told to depending on female gossip, religious doctrine, and other vectors of propagandaAll of which can be either organic and emerging from out of their own community or totally inorganic and top-down from outside forces. Women who are acclimated to this society will find attractive the traits that its propaganda has told them to. Women who are acclimated to yours, on the other hand, will find attractive the traits that your society's propaganda has told them to. The only overlap is found from the influence of the international capital types. A terminally online girl from either origin will probably be more like each other.None of that is particularly groundbreaking. But I'm saying it to illustrate that a woman acting how she's told to behave is the constant. If you isekai'd your incel NEET into the past and had him grow up during the industrial revolution, for example, he would realistically be married.
>>220251838>implying young women show up to muh social eventsLol
>>220252343>there is a percentage of women who are both shy and dislike "chads" In your dreams maybe. But irl no. >inb4 bro just attend tridentine mass
>>220250137@zoomers is this true?
>>220253224https://ifstudies.org/blog/todays-young-adults-are-in-a-dating-recession I think this was the study
>>220250152your mom is a girlyour grandmas are girlsyour teachers at school were girlsthe cashier at your grocery store is a girl
>>220250137this is complete bs. there are no virgins over the age of 20 outside extreme outliers
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>>220261777what's your problem
>>220250137I feel bad for zoomies
Women and sex aren’t worth the trouble.
>>220262190>I WILL stay a virgin because of heckin' Schopenhaueryeah right
>>220262190Then only the bad people will reproduce.
>>220251410>denialfirst stage, you have a long way to go.
>>220261777This but only for women
>>220262190Schopy was a ladies' man you know, perhaps you should read him.