Why is America so against Universal Healthcare unironically? We’re more than capable of having it
america is just a bit bloody shit
>>220292887I honestly don't want to pay for care for people that do not care for themselves.If everyone contributed, sure, whatever, but some people are just drains on the system and make choices that are detrimental to their health while still seeking for their care to be paid for by others.
no one looks like that
i don't care what happens to others
>>220292887Most Americans don't even realize it would put a leash on medical spending. They want to get raped up the ass paying $2k for a half mile drive in an amberlamps.
>>220292967>some people are just drains on the system and make choices that are detrimental to their health while still seeking for their care to be paid for by others.If you're referring to fat fucks, then I agree. That's a whole 'nother issue with our garbage food system here that also needs to be revamped
>>220293060>If you're referring to fat fucksYeah fat fucks in general. Then there's just another whole category of lazy and entitled people.
the tree of freedom must be painted with blood or however the superbowl is watched
>>220292967You guys are still too retarded to realise that good healthcare actually lowers the overall cost of healthcare, for example getting pre-diabetics to a doctor as soon as they're experiencing symptoms and getting them to follow a diet costs far less than people ignoring symptoms because it's all too expensive then suddenly their foot falls off and they become a massive burden on the healthcare system.
>>220292887goycattle can't have shit
>>220293378Maybe they shouldnt be retarded and refrain from shoveling sweets into their mouths like a childthis is not my problem
>>220293432it is your problem because it raises insurance rates for everyone else.
In any country, when vested interests seize power, they fear losing it.However, I think America is an extreme example.
>>220293468I don't have insurance, don't need it because im smart enough to take care of myselfSo no, it's not my problem
>>220292887I'm against a government entirely.
>>220293432>Maybe they shouldnt be retarded and refrain from shoveling sweets into their mouths like a childIdeally those people would be euthanised but alas that's a somewhat unrealistic proposition, healthcare is the most realistic solution.>this is not my problemIt literally is though, why are Americans so insanely retarded about this.The people around you and in your community matter to your wellbeing, it's not impossible to live in some fully self-contained bubble even if you are the kind of loser living out in the middle of nowhere and only shopping at the megamart once a week.
>>220292887>why don't you want the government in charge of your healthcare? what could possibly go wrong?
>>220293378>and getting them to follow a dietSTOP RIGHT THERE RETARD
>>220292967we end up paying anyway. It's a myth that people are dying because of lack of medical care. The emergency room never rejects people who can't pay, and never asks for cash up front. And when they can't pay, the cost gets passed on to the rest of us.
>>220292887I would only support it in cases of workplace accidents, victims of violent crimes, and minors doing dumb shit because they're twelve. If some grown ass faggot deliberately tries to boof a can of febreze to try and get high it's not my problem, xis parents can pay for the fallout if they even care enough.
>>220293733emergency rooms will stabilize people but you won't be able to get care outside of that, which is what saves people.
>>220293603Much better to give everyone guns to shoot themselves with.
>>220292967>>220292887Because of bring retarded and spitefulAmerica pays about the same tax as us, canada, england, poo peeland. And the American government pays more per capita on healthcare. But because there is no public healthcare and that money is getting shovelled into insurance companies faces, people think less money is being sent
>>220293805nobody gets "given" guns, raj. you have to purchase them.
>>220292887>We’re more than capable of having itYou have too many unhealthy people, it wouldn't work. The obesity in particular is the main problem.
>>220293829For $100 in a walmart parking lot, such a high bar to clear.
>>220292887>paying for someone else healthcarebased golems, that's fucking stupid
>>220293817no, USA has way lower tax rates than us other than maybe New York and California which would be about a little less than us as best.
>>220293845raj is hallucinating again
>>220293845>walmart parking lotwrong, you can literally buy guns in walmarts there lmao
>>220293946he knows; he's trying to imply that most guns are purchased illegally, which is only true for black gangbangers who typically do not use their firearms for suicide.
Americans will gladly pay $800 a month for insurance + $10k deductible when they actually need healthcare as long as that money isn't instead used for higher taxes that would be used for free healthcare at half the cost.
that's gommunism o algo, americans are slaves to big corp lobby
>>220292887our economy and government is based on pure capitalism, and parts of it always have been. FDR was an anomaly created by public outcry against the pur capitalism that wrecked the world economy. He created Social Security, which the capitalists have been trying to get rid of for 90 years. LBJ came up with Medicare and they've been trying to get rid of that for 60 years.It would take a complete economic collapse, again, for anything to change again, and there are some safeguards against that. Ironically, it was FDR that created those safeguards.
>>220293986Most guns used in crimes are legally registered. Many of them have been stolen from the legal owner. Black crime is the direct result of southern farmers importing blacks for cheap labor. This has resulted in the crime we see today. Yep, lazy, fat, southern redneck farmers created the black culture in the US.
>>220294096actually, it was single moms
>>220292887universal healthcare is a total psyop and the americans are right to not want it. just compare the state of canada's healthcare to america. it's socialized and much worse.
>>220292887They don't want universal healthcare because that means that black people will get it, and we can't let blacks have nice things can we?White racists look at life as a zero sum game, and end up harming EVERYBODY in the process. Truly retarded they are tbqh
>>220294044does brazil have free healthcare?
>>220292887Corporate lobbying. Literally nothing else. The whole political shite around it is just people thinking they're on top of the issue when in truth they're being manipulated for wealth extraction.
>>220293499you dont even got yearly checkups? you dont go to the dentist? Stop larping your underage faggot
>>220294533why would you get yearly check-ups for? I don't do that and I get free healthcare.
>>220294533>you dont even got yearly checkups?who actually does this lmao
>>220293378>getting them to follow a dietThat's how the Fatso Revolution of 47 started
>>220292887Israel deserves it more.>>220292967See what I mean? Proud shabbos goyim like him deserve to drown in their own filth.
>>220294625>>220294852its good to get your blood tested to make sure to catch cancer/diabetes whatever early
>>220294096African have higher crime rate in every single country that they live in, regardless of the culture they grew up in or if they were slaves or not
>>220292967>90% of the population don't deserve better treatment because the other 10% of them are scum and/or niggersthe American way, dog bless
>>220294905>americans constantly have to test themselves for diabetes because their diets are so fucking bad
>>220294905>being worried about diabetes
>>220294941>African have higher crime rate in every single country that they live inSee>>220294310
>>220294941Whoops. I meant to quote your post kek
>>220294999so true about the zero sum game thing. Americans can't understand that things can actually be done better and more efficiently with good government policy rather than handing everything over to megacorps hell-bent on profit extraction.
>>220294960>>220294962nevermind just let it be a surprise for you :)
>>220294533No I don'tI'm 27 years old. Never had a need to because I have always been in good health and I brush my teeth regularly
>>220292887Amerikkkans be like >something that would benefit me? Fuck off communist!! >Erm, my favourite non compromised influence told me this is communism>Erm, what the freedom
>>220294960>>220294962retards
>>220292967>I honestly don't want to pay for care for people that do not care for themselves.So you want a system that can either forces you to call your insurance provider and the hospital/clinic constantly or get totally fucked by the insurance saying "nah we ain't paying for that"? A system where non-healthcare workers, midwits and drop-outs, or non-practicing doctors and surgeons can decide that you don't need that vital surgery or that they'll only pay for steps three and five in a seven step surgery treatment like it's a fucking buffet?
Americans get measles in the 21st century
>>220297221https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-firm-must-pay-225-million-mom-whose-baby-died-was-denied-work-hom-rcna264321This was easily preventable.
>>220296279Idk if you're baiting but you really shouldn't have to constantly check if you're about to develop diabetes
>>220292887Because muh communism and why would I pay so my neighbor could get healthcare they need to lift themselves up by their bootstraps o algo! Common good that will help society in the long run? You're loking a little red for even suggesting that!
>>220292887>Caucasoid arent m0nke-
>>220292887Because making goods and services others must provide into "human rights" and centralized federal systems is innately rife with corruption and leaves citizens no meaningful recourse against or consent to those systems, and enshrines an additional element of slavery into the system for no actual tangible benefit (people can still sue and collude and drive costs up through fraud)
>>220297694>Bro just trust me it's working out so well for the rest of the world!
>>220292887I'm genuinely convinced that Conservatives in the US don't actually have any thought out principals derived from logical reasoning, they simply opposed universal healthcare because the status quo is no universal healthcare and Conservatism (literally on the name) is just about keeping the status quo.If the Status Quo was universal healthcare then they'd be in favour of it, but since it's not they viciously oppose it. That's it, there's literally nothing else to it, they don't really think a lot or have any iron principles.I'm quite conservative for Australia, but American Cons are just unbelievable and I refuse to associate with them.
>>220298307Well, yeah, we all have higher life expectancy than you do... We also have lower infant morality, and lower maternal mortality.
>>220292887Because americans are evil. It’s really that simple. I’m not sure why people are still in denial. The whole world are now in this mess because americans are evil.
>>220292887death panelshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j0_TDPaUznw
>>220292967>I honestly don't want to pay for care for people that do not care for themselvesstop paying your health insurance premium then
>>220293499nigger if you get hit by a car tomorrow you are going to a debtor's colony
>>220293514>to live in some fully self-contained bubblethis is the real american dream and if an american ever truly internalizes that it is impossible they will fall into a coma
Look at our tax system; the companies who sell tax software like TurboTax spend millions of dollars every year lobbying to make taxes more complex than needed so that they can sell more software
>>220293926if you compare what americans spend on healthcare through premiums and out-of-pocket to what other nationals spend on healthcare through taxes, americans spend more than any nation on earth
>>220294277and compare the state of france's. it is socialized and much better.
>>220298307it fucking is you tard
>>220298698my greatest aspiration in life is to sit on a death panel. i'd pay to do it. for some reason george soros won't write back to me.
>>220294533ayo this fruity ass nigga gets yearly checkups
>>220293378i would force a sugar tax and ban restaurants from serving non-diet pop, but people arent ready for that
>>220294960>>220294962>>220295130Not doing preventative screening is possibly the most retarded thing on planet earth>>220299194>popGo back to Milwaukee you uncultured swine
>>220292887Because you don't have to pay for others.
>>220299378fatty mad at the thought of his sugar going away :)
>>220299378>Not doing preventative screening is possibly the most retarded thing on planet earthFor stuff like cancer, yeahYou really shouldn't need to screen for diabetes unless you eat like complete shit
>>220294941We have better healthcare than you, we just have to pay a little each month after the fact until we pay off our bill or copay. Or if we are truly broke we can just chapter 7 bankruptcy and the government jannies clean up the debnts for usYou have no idea what you're talking about in general
>>220299453I agree with your policy suggestion, but I won't take backtalk from a Midwestern faggot like yourselfIt's called soda, or coke if you're from a more rural area>>220299484Type 2 Diabetes can affect people on a genetic basisType 1.5 also exists
>>220299649>We have better healthcare than youlmaoing my ass offWhat bullshit hyper-specific metric will you cherrypick to argue your case, I wonderalso lmaoing @:>yeah dude our healthcare isn't that expensive, you just need to declare yourself bankrupt after racking up insane costs and it's all sweet haha
Americans are very individualistic to a faultSuch a system could work maybe on a state level, not federal. That would allow states to compete.People over a certain BMI and non-citizens should be exempt
>>220299839We have access to a lot more tests more readily than in euro countries
>>220300243oh wow, really got me there
>>220292967>I honestly don't want to pay for care for people that do not care for themselvestrvthnvke. remove all welfare gibs. stop directing my taxes to leeches. let the rest of the world fund their own leeches if they want
