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>>220287972
>personally i wouldn't take any language certification tests until i'm in the B2+ range (around HSK5-6 in the case of mandarin) since it's a waste of money

While HSK3 is barely A2-B1 it's not a waste of money in the sense that passing HSK3 allows you to get a Chinese language scholarship tuition+expensens/accomodation for 6 months/12 months in China.

>>220295643
i'm aware that HSK 3+ is the bare minimum needed for visas/scholarships but i'm not sure how available such opportunities actually are since the mainland doesnt seem eager to take in foreigners, maybe its worth it but i wouldnt try my luck with a country that doesnt even have proper naturalisation laws

What you guys opinion on Glossika?

Using a VPN to change your location to the country where your target language is spoken might be one of the most underrated ways to immerse yourself in that language

>>220298903
진실핵폭탄

>>220298974
>진실핵폭탄
We would say '팩폭' in South Korea

>>220296315
>the mainland doesnt seem eager to take in foreigners
your white tho
You can speedrun HSK3 in 100-200 hours. Just spend 1 on each chapter, then another on the exercises.
I went HSK1 books -> Start HSK 2 + Repeat Book 1 -> HSK 3 + repeat book 2 -> repeat book 3 (Whilst doing anki PBUI)
HSK3 is like A2, at best, but you know it makes you sound really smart.

>>220296315
>how available such opportunities actually are
very easy if you're willing to go to a less-famous university instead of PKU or Fudan

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>>220298903

Did Jordan anon finally choose a language?

>>220304139
no

>>220304139
For sale: Spanish textbook, never used

honestly it's a miracle that he ever learnt English in the first place

>>220300437
It is useless for foreigners to go to Chinese universities. If you want to work in China, it is better to go to a school like Harvard or MIT. Only when Chinese people go to China's top universities will big enterprises be willing to offer high salaries and admissions.

>>220305753
人家想当英语老师摸点儿腚,他又不在乎挣不挣米。

>>220305853
德国佬和那个爱沙尼亚人不是母语者当不了英语老师,没卵用。想透批的话tinder上那些丑b我是下不去吊的。
中国现在高端行业的薪水可以看齐美国佬了。比如清华计算机,一毕业直接去字节阿里首年就是几百万加股权。真不低。我要不是年纪大了,我都想重读大学去挣一挣了

>>220305948
装个南非的不就得了吗,最近查得不严
字节啥的都太卷了,习惯欧美作息的人大部分受不了。只有中亚/东南亚的愿意干

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does anyone have a better mining tool than asbplayer? i've been liking it but sometimes it seems like it screws up the audio/sub synchronization and i haven't been able to debug it.

>pic not really related, just some comfy flashcards i'm making

>>220296315
Estonians will literally say the dumbest shit about China. They literally give these out like nothing. It's incredible easy, even to attend language schools at elite universities. They are unironically desperate for foreigners to come.

>>220296315
>since the mainland doesnt seem eager to take in foreigners
White monkeys are desired
The rest of the world not so much

>>220305753
PKU and Tsinghua have passed American universities in the nature index post-pandemic and opportunities in the US are drying up to huge funding cuts under Trump. I am sorry but you are living in the past.

>>220307752
>the rest of the world not so much
don't worry this is about to change

>>220307775
China nationalists be like
>Chinese out, jeets in !

>>220304412
>>220305723
Fuk. If he doesn't choose a language, neither will I

>>220304139
He chose spanish but I imagine he will be doing anything other than it by the end of the month lol

>>220308110
Based jordiemaxxer

Has anyone ever used/taken Danyo Pang's Copy Paste Speaking course for mandarin?

>>220306147
字节老板福建人,福建人就是奋斗逼。
受不了卷的去腾讯或者阿里搞大模型算法,腾讯老板广东人很守劳动法

还有就是搞大模型全世界没有不加班的。虽然也就美国和中国搞的比较火热。我是很建议年轻人进大企业,搞个两年,写简历上,以后全世界的公司随便挑

Bump up the jam

Ajatt is so funny for recommending 10000 hours of inpoot unironically

>>220307761
none of that research output is done by foreigners THOUGHEVER it's all Chinese people
American professors and PhDs mostly fled to Europe or other English-speaking countries

>>220309117
关键是美国加班开原工资的两倍
确实进大公司比自己创业好多了

>>220310880
so you think reaching 10,000 hours would be bad for you?

>>220312804
It's a bit of a overkill

>>220308110
Calm yo tits. I don't live on /lang/. I just checked.
I can learn: Spanish, French, German, Turkish, and Russian.

>>220313380
>I can learn: Spanish, French, German, Turkish, and Russian.
but which are you choosing

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>>220313459
One subscription. Costs $25 a year. IDK.

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>>220313534
This guy says he can get you to B1 German in 90 days

>>220313662
>This guy says he can get you to B1 German in 90 days
Bullshit and scamming. Take a good time to build a comprehension bulk and hability to output.

Weren't you going to learn Spanish btw?

>>220314040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSHQCQkXOz0
My ear started ejaculating as soon as I started hearing Persian
IDK BRO

>>220313037
>>220310880
thats the only way to actually get fluent
ajatt is not a 'how do I get to have basic conversations as quick as possible' strategy it's 'how can I learn to speak, process, and think in japanese like a real native'

>>220313534
>>220313662
man regardless of whichever you choose i don't trust any of this for a second. There has to be better sources out there that you can use

>>220314535
But the FSI prescribe 1100 hours to 2200 hours to reach fluency. 10000 hours is just a wild number

>>220314668
For japanese? Self-reported hours spent studying/learning to pass JLPT 1 is around 4.5k hours iirc

>>220314668
the 2200 hour FSI number is counting classroom hours of very high-octane learners in a full immersion environment. It does not count homework, input outside of class, or pre-existing knowledge before the class started. The actual number of hours it took them was closer to 4000 hours, and that was to reach basic professional competency, not high fluency. 5k-10k hours is a reasonable estimate for actual fluency in japanese or korean

>>220313662
>>220313534
None of these 'people' exist; you're being sold a river and you're getting a bottle of piss instead.

>>220314668
They were parroting the malcom gladwell meme

>>220314824
>>220314928
Ok, that's make more sense

>>220314301
sounds like indian

anyone here done clozemaster? did you do the paid and find it worth it. it looks kind of fun and has my tl but i also don't like the idea of paying for a glorified anki + input machine

>>220304139
PLEASE stop talking about him. Just like /meg/ over on /k/ with their incessant need to mention "Robert" constantly, I don't want /lang/ to turn into an anti-Jordy tardfest. Just let it die already.

>>220316264
I do it an yes, it's a paid Anki lol. It's the process of sentence mining already done for you

For the people who already know or are learning French: how did you learn to pronounce things? I'm struggling a bit.

>>220317390
Not a french learner but generally shadowing and learning the IPA takes care of that

>>220317390
listened a bunch. did shadowing. practiced with langutalk or chatgpt voice

>>220314668
a lot of people misunderstand what FSI's definition of fluency is, in reality it's something like having the ability to use a very specific register of a language for the sake of diplomacy/trade/etc. FSI courses don't have a reason to waste time teaching vocab to do with more mundane concepts that occasionally appear in real life conversations but are completely irrelevant in most formal contexts, like the names of animals, food stuffs, and *slang*.
The FSI's goal is to prepare people for a highly specialised environment linguistically speaking, many FSI course graduates are going to be able to arrange trade deals in their TL but they have no reason to learn how to make meaningless small talk and use the informal register that is most commonly used in real life interactions. Having the language proficiency of a native is actually an insanely high bar and the only way to come close is by doing a god awful amount of input/output over the course of literal years, probably totalling to around 10k hours+ for languages like Japanese.
also like the others say, the estimates only count class hours and not any of the other time spent studying the language. And the time needed for you to learn a language varies a lot if you speak other languages, related or not, most "time needed to learn a language" estimates are based on monolingual EFLs, if you speak an agglutinative language already it may halve the time needed to learn Japanese

basically FSI estimates are largely a meme

>>220307966
they don't import as many indian jeets (15k - 23k 2010-2019) due to various factors (they don't like each other) so they bring in pakis instead (30k+ as of 2020)
lol'd at the little pink chuds complaining online about the government wanting to bring in more foreigners a few months ago though

>>220299135
>>220307752
i'm from an irrelevant eastern european country doe not a fancy "prestigious" (asian standards) one like germany, UK, US, france, etc.
not like they could tell LOL

>>220317922
thats the reason ajatt/akatt exists. just only use it all day every day and forget your native language exists and it'll only take you 1.5 years instead of 10 years

I've got reality check recently
1. How to master English? I want to obtain the level of a professional interview journalist / tv show host star / parliamentary speaker. Or just a decent, honest and cultured man. This flow of good communicator. I get the impression that it's very important for Anglos.
Reading isn't a problem, and neither is listening, as long as it's not some weird dialect. Writing is harder, and I'm not very good at speaking. It's not even about my accent, even though i do have East-Euro / Slavic accent, it's that I don't know what to say or how to make the conversation flow smoothly or be interesting. It's bothers me because I'm well-spoken in my native language, I can talk about everything with almost everybody. I want to improve my accent too, but I'm not overfixated about it, I think the main issue might be applying grammar correctly in speech and writing. I've even double-checked everything here to make sure I wrote it correctly.
2. I think I jumped into learning new languages too soon. Either I'll give up this idea, or I'll pick something less demanding and complementary that won't get in the way of my English journey
>>220317054
It seems nice for languages with less learning resources (shitty basic anki decks) and less content
>>220316692
I didn't mean to provoke hate, I just wanted us to start at the same time so we could motivate each other

>>220320021
Fewer resources, I think, Stannis forgive me.

>>220317520
>>220317682
Thanks.

>>220320525
Gabriel Wyner has some amazing videos on French phonology

it's kinda messed up that Persian has literally always been written with defective writing systems.

>>220315296
it happens to be a legitimate rule of thumb for japanese fluency even if its not true for other skills

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Could someone explain the logic behind this sentence? Why does "buss" appear twice?
I understand the information the sentence conveys, I can translate it, but I don't understand why it is contructed like that

>>220311856
工作日两倍,节假日三倍,中国不是这样吗。估计你没进过大公司,还不知道规范的公司啥样的。

how many books have you guys read in TL?
I've read 24 in mine which is honestly way more than I've read in English in the same time period.

>>220321438
2 and I white noised a lot of it (how do I fix this btw?)

i think fsrs broke my anki decks, i don't get new cards anymore either, what a piece of shit

>>220295482
>https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

it's dead jim

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_s2eRAExMxqOxX5ICv7YTZ9ebzHeZCpN&si=AV5pY7A567803Dc5

this playlist is gold intermediate korean CI

>>220322450
It's why I don't use it. I use straight rewards which seems to solve the problem with ease.

>>220322662
It's crazy to remember there was a time when people on this godforsaken hellhole of a website actually actively contributed to projects and wikis, and now people barely even make new memes.

>>220322953
the site has gradually degenerated from young, high iq autistic losers to old, low iq autistic losers

Turkish feels like a conlang.

>>220323177
Where are all the young, high iq autistic losers these days though? Feels like they've just disappeared.

>>220323486
they are talking with AI

>>220323177
There's nothing high iq about working for free

>>220321110
我当然没进吧,要不然不会在这儿打发时间 0——0

>>220313380
>I don't live on /lang/
No, you just come here, casually troll us, bait us into replying and then leave. Can't you just leave us in peace? I want to learn German, not be trolled by a master provocateur.

>>220327770
:(
Are you A1 in German? Maybe I can resume it

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>tfw I normally miss 20-30 cards but only 10 this morning

I am serious this time. I am really intending to learn a language. I might not do it immediately or in a consistent stretch, but I got a solution:
Should I disappear and ONLY return once I am B1 so I can prove I am not trolling?

I wish Korea weren't so anal about r19 verification
Let me in, I want to goon to murin gooner webslop

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>>220330899
Do whatever you want

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based or cringe?

>>220332931
>toehold

>>220332931
his basic method is (which he hardly ever outlines his actual method in his videos he just says 'read and lsten' over and over) but it's:

>he starts with his learner stories and other beginner material which are the same every time. e.g he reads the same material he's already read again translated into different languages
>he repeat re-reads and re-listens to the same stories up to 10 times, and rotates reading>listening>reading on the same content
>he then does narrow domain reading (one topic) of something he finds interesting, usually history
>obviously he uses the pop-up dictionary heavily for word lookup, he doesnt primarily rely on inference to learn words

these are all well supported practices in the research but very different from the message most people would get from his videos, which is just 'listen a lot and read a lot and it'll just sink in magically'

Any DuChinese autists here? How do you use it for prolonged times? The phone app looks much better but I don't like staring at my phone for hours, and the web PC UI sucks. Also it doesn't seem to sync the stats from what I read, although I'm not sure.

Also, when repping Anki, do you guys give yourself a fail if you remember everything except the exact tones?

Learning French has been quite an experience so far. It's a huge departure from Japanese with how the writing goes down pretty smoothly if you know your English, but the actual struggle involves understanding what the fuck is being said and also speaking it. I really just want to get the reading/writing down, since I'll mostly just be reading books, so how much do you think I should emphasize on the listening? I'm currently just doing a Duolingo lesson a day (took me a couple months to just reach a score of 10), but once this semester's over I'll probably get Super and finish the whole course in a week while also trying out a bunch of other shit like watching French shows, reading actual books, etc.

anyone else noticing google translate adding random parentheticals that aren't in the original text? sometimes it's explanations of terms, but it seems like it just makes shit up sometimes.

>>220338046
>Also, when repping Anki, do you guys give yourself a fail if you remember everything except the exact tones?
yes
don't skimp on tones or you will regret it later

>>220339375
been happening ever since they started using LLMs for translation

>>220339375
Google Translate started sucking bad for Swedish recently. Like early-2000s level. Must've switched to some AI thing that blows for some languages.

>>220339605
>Must've switched to some AI thing that blows
just like everything else

Besides readlang, lingq and language reactor what are some content oriented learning tools?

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After learning my target language for about 3 years now, I only want to date women who can speak it. Like I have a strong preference for women who can speak Spanish now. Dating monolingual women feels almost pointless to me for some reason. Has this ever happened to anyone else when learning? I use to not mind dating women who could only speak English. Now I don't even consider them.

>>220341370
yes, I have only dated women who can speak Chinese for like four years now
last time I went on a date where I had to speak in English it was awkward and weird
somewhat worried I can never go back now because I almost never use English to talk about myself now

>>220338046
>Also, when repping Anki, do you guys give yourself a fail if you remember everything except the exact tones?
It should be a fail, yeah, since a change in tone changes the word.

Olá negões

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Did /int/ get really slow or do you all just hate me

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>>220342394
>do you all just hate me
on the contrary. Here have this pepe

>>220341912
You just drop a slur on me you tiburon?

>>220342394
I hate you

>>220342394
4chan is dying

bump

>>220339605
Huh, I thought Google Translate was the one thing getting consistently better across the board. Disappointing to hear.

>>220341912
bom dia, meu nobre irmão da poderosa raça africana

>>220345349
DeepL is better for Swedish, especially now.

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I am having trouble sometimes distinguishing words in Spanish. Especially if they sound similar to other words. Is this just an input issue or am I fucking up somehow? When I hear native Spanish speakers speak to each other, I sometimes can't follow. My friend told me its because I listen to mostly Puerto Ricans and Puerto Ricans utilize a bunch of shortened phrases and words apparently. But I should at least still be able to understand somewhat right? I mostly practice that dialect anyway.

>>220345384
isnt swedish almost identical to english grammatically? I thought it'd be trivially easy to translate

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What use would I get if I were to learn Spanish? I feel like French or Polish would be better for me but there's so many fucking people who speak Spanish.

>>220339207
I wouldn't neglect listening because then you will probably read the french words in your head as though they were english words ie with the total wrong pronunciation.

I agree with you on speaking/listening being much harder than reading. Honestly imo French is underrated in terms of difficultly, especially when considered holistically. If you just wanted to learn a lang for reading then honestly French is probably the easiest for an english speak and probably by a mile, but, having learned german, I actually think French is harder on the whole.

Looking to add more music in Mandarin into my daily rotation, anyone have any recommendations?

For what little she has I've really enjoyed 王OK.

>>220348076
For adult learners, languages are just hard as fuck in general. French and Spanish are considered the "easiest" major languages for English natives. But, like you said, French pronunciation is really fucking hard to understand and to speak. Spanish has easier pronunciation, but the grammar is kind of brutal. You just can't win.

>>220348161
>For adult learners, languages are just hard as fuck in general

ya totally agree. French or Spanish are easier, but not easy by any means. All the more respect for the english speakers that tacke chinese or arabic.

I taught myself how to ice skate and got pretty decent at it in about 100 hours or so. 100 hours of language learning is literally nothing. It's just a hard skill to pick up.

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>tfw you consumed comprehensible input in your target language

>>220348255
That's true, but language learning has some advantages. It's a lot easier and cheaper to get those hours studying a language. Also, the use of a language is something you will likely be able to enjoy further into your old age than ice skating.

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I started learning Spanish in Duolingo and got the anki card set. I really wanted to learn Russian because their literature is peak, but it seems hard to get into as a beginner. I'm an ESL speaker, but I went a school with an English curriculum, so I mostly became familiar with it by speaking and using it instead of studying grammar rules. Spanish seems easier because I already know some words and have a latam fren I can speak with on discord.

I am attempting to get and maintain my chinese japanese and korean all to the specific level of slightly broken that is most attractive/endearing to asian girls
>this creature has evolved complex mating strategies in adapting to its environment

Do gaijins find easy to pronounce Japanese words? I find it very easy

>>220349466
its about twenty times easier than korean for native english speakers

>>220349466
Yes Japanese pronunciation is pretty easy for me. The only sounds that really bother me is んい like in 原因(げんいん)

>>220349466
japanese pronunciations is generally seen as the easiest part of the language, low barrier to entry although it's pretty hard to master if you want to sound native-like

>>220348123
>rock
万能青年旅店、崔健、刀郎、草东没有派对、五条人、海朋森、噢!肮脏手指、新裤子

>pop
窦靖童、王菲、方大同、王力宏、陶喆

>rap
马思维、揽佬

all pretty entry-level but you should be able to find something you like in there

Today I learned that the Poles use the word Daktyle for dates which means fingers while we use the word χουρμάς which is not Greek.
Thank you for your attention.

I have trouble pronouncing 'r' and 's'. Which languages are off the table for me? I was thinking about learning Japanese

>little brain
using LingQ
>big brain
using Lute
>turbo retard or galaxy brain
using LingQ for content and downloading all the LingQ content into Lute

>>220338046
I saw someone on Reddit say the web UI sucks so much that they use an Android emulator on their PC to use the app, which is pretty funny. Otherwise you probably just have to get over the ugliness, sadly.

Incidentally, does anyone know of anything similar to DuChinese for languages other than Mandarin? By "similar" I mean an emphasis on extensive reading with audio available and a lot of content even at low levels. The same devs have an app called "yomu yomu" for Japanese, but it seems pretty sparse at the moment and the audio is AI (not even good AI).
>>220350884
If you have trouble pronouncing 'r' and 's' but people can still understand you, then they'll still understand you in your target language provided you spend time really nailing down the rest of the pronunciation. If you manage to do that, you might even find you're able to learn how to pronounce your r's and s's better in both your TL and English (assuming it's not because of a disability or anything)

>>220351208
Do they even have any original content besides the mini stories? Pretty sure most of it is public domain shit and people importing their own epubs.

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>been watching native level content in German YouTube for a year now, zero difficulty, practically 100% understanding
>Read native level books as well, no difficulty
>Try to watch "Babylon Berlin" without subtitles
>Can barely catch what they say and lose details constantly
Is this just a normal problem when confronted with any dialogue that isn't clearly articulated? I guess ESLs feel this way watching some shit like Master & Commander?

>>220354096
*pubes

>>220350823
>poles
not raped by turks for 1,000 years
>greeks
raped by turks for 1,000 years

I mean, it makes sense

>>220349149
>It's a lot easier and cheaper to get those hours studying a language

no doubt. Getting into hockey cost me an arm and a leg and I don't have to drive to the rink to practice my TLs. I've probably spent under 300 or so total on language learning over a decade and that is basically all from ordering books from amazon.de and having to pay the extra shipping. If I were more savvy I probably could have just found pdfs and then spent even less.

>>220354295
watching german tv and dubbed german anime are still difficult for me too. I think some of it is all the background noise in tv like music, ambient noises, etc. Podcasts are way easier to understand as they lack all that.

>>220320021
>I didn't mean to provoke hate, I just wanted us to start at the same time so we could motivate each other
He is such a manipulative little shit and an attention seeker that you should never talk to him at all. He will never help you with anything and will only test your patience.

>>220354512
Greeks were occupied by Romans for ten centuries and by Ottomans for four.

>analytic/isolating languages = easy
why do people think this?

>>220356835
because midwits learn english for free through exposure and they dunning-kruger themselves into thinking that analyticity = easy
if you ask them to learn mandarin or vietnamese they instantly begin coping and start claiming that muh script or muh tones make it impossible

>>220356835
three main reasons
>more similar to English
>strict word order means you will make less mistakes when constructing sentences compared with cases
>less things to memorise, especially less things to memorise about every word (i.e. you don't have to memorise declension or gender for nouns nor anything about verbs if they don't inflect)

>>220356835
they are. its more about morphophonology though. if sound doesnt change then its easier to remember. e.g japanese listening/speaking is much easier to learn than korean for that reason the word doesnt change form as much

Mandarin or Korean?

>>220359225
Cantonese

>>220356474
Don’t forget Germany in World War 2, too.

>>220339513
>>220341777
ugh I'm so fucking bad at remembering them, though. Sometimes I fail a new card like 5 times before I get the actual tones. Any tips? Should I look into adding color to my anki cards for the tones or is that retarded? (for the back side ofc, not for the testing side)

>>220359391
yes the colours help massively

>>220359225
neither both are 2 hard use that time to go outside and have sex instead

>>220359402
just added them through a script with free gemini and I feel like a wizard. ty. I'll start being more strict with tones then, the colors will probably make it easier.
I admit I usually hate AI for everything, but free gemini has been so good at editing anki template stuff.

How realistic is it for an adult to master 5 foreign languages at a level around B2/C1 and keep it for a long time?

>>220348255
i think part of it is depth and breadth. basically everything you have ever learned is included in a language. it is kind of overwhelming when you think of it like that.

>>220360716
Every additional language after your third foreign language actually becomes easier.

buomp

hej

>>220361005
Yeah, but what about mastering it? All big / famous polyglots, as someone wrote earlier, either learned some languages at a young age, or they learn similar languages, or they simply have a shitty language level in most of them

>>220360716
If you just want to read/understand the language then I'd say it's doable, but if you mean true mastery as in being able to speak at a C1 level then I'd say it's pretty much impossible unless you're talking about learning 5 romance languages (which would still be difficult).
I'm assuming you're a normal person with a job and responsibilities though. If you're unemployed and dedicate all your time to it, it might be doable idk.

>>220295482
>12,000 words in my anki deck
>still often adding 10+ words a day
To Learn A Language Is To Suffer

>>220365045
>or they learn similar languages
You are shifting the goal post now.

Also while there a lot of fraudsters there is a decent number of highly fluent polyglots.

>>220365330
Just as I thought. And that's the reason why I dabble so often. What a cruel world.
>>220366634
Yeah, but they are some geniuses or something. I'm not enough disciplined, organised, unemployed, rich, young and smart enough to accomplish this. I can't even master English

>>220366804
Well you asked whether it was possible and the existence of people doing that is proving that it is. Like what's your point? Yes, learning languages is difficult, yes being a polyglot is a somewhat impressive feat but it has never been more easy to learn foreign languages than in the current era thanks to technology and there are plenty of skills that are more impressive and harder to acquire than being a polyglot, like becoming a pro-athlete or a professional musician.

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Whats with lang doomers saying shit like "Give up. Learning a language is impossible if you were never fully immersed in it." or "Why even bother? After a certain age the mind fossilizes and can't be taught other languages to fluidity."

>>220360716
they've actually done research on the retention part and once you reach a certain level of skill you retain it almost indefinitely. at around the same-ish level youre talking about. once it becomes sort of comfortably automatic its very durable and can last for many years without strong decay. this is true for all skills not just language learning. that's why it's important not to half-learn things.

>>220366876
>>220366804
Continuing here:

You know, maintaining your language skills at a high level is actually piss-easy and 30 times easier than learning or studying itself the language itself. How do you think you are maintaining your native language? Yes your native language skills are degrading every day you are not using it at all as well. Thanks to modern tech you can have a call practicing your oral skills and then read a chapter or two of very dense content once you are fluent at a high level.

>>220366879
they need to create excuses to explain their failure

>>220366876
>>220367277
I was just curious. Later I wondered if it applied to me, and then what I was missing to achieve it. Anyways, thanks
>>220367051
This gives some hope. Thanks you too
>>220366879
Frustration

>>220366527
What words did you add today? i feel like you'd just add very fringe, low-frequency words at that point so i'm interested in seeing what you're adding at this stage

>>220367051
can you post this research

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it's done. i can finally mine kpop demon hunters in croatian

>>220369065
nice

>>220357101
indonesian is easy

>>220366879
has anyone said that? haven't actually heard that.

it's not impossible its a huge undertaking like getting a multi-year degree, at least for non-western languages. so people should be aware of the demand and time commitment and not have unrealistic expectations. most people are led to believe it's way easier than it is and think you can make meaningful progress from a shitty class twice a week

I can only remember the tones if I literally force myself the remember the pinyin with diacritical marks in my head.

Am I going to make it?

>>220369065
What app or web app are you using to mine these sentences?

>>220370101
looks like language reactor

>>220370341
I am almost completely sure that isn't language reactor

>>220370801
ASB Player + Yomitan probably. Refold made a guide to Anki Mining which I used once with these two extensions

>>220350204
appreciate you my guy

>>220369997
better practice
>妈妈骑马,马慢,妈妈骂马

>6603 cards due
I guess I could do it in 2 - 4 days since I spend like 2 - 3 seconds per card

>>220369997
just memorise the tone as a number alongside the reading so 高速公路 = gao1su4gong1lu4

>>220368478
not him but mine is at 20k and I still add words pretty regularly (9 a day according to anki)

>hätscheln
nuzzle, pet, cuddle

>der Statthalter
governor (like in Rome)

>das Gutdünken
discretion

>das Kupfervorkommen
copper deposit

>widrigensfalls
otherwise, failing this...

>der Albdruck
incubus

>einleuchtend
reasonable, plausible

>bramarbasieren
to brag, boast

>die Depesche
telegram, dispatch

>sich ermannen
to pluck up the courage

>die Labertasche
chatterbox


so ya definitely low-frequency, but I enjoy adding words even if it is only marginally beneficial now