>European individualism vs. American collectivismWhich one creates a healthier culture?
>>220330880Wtf do you mean? Both are individualist. If anything, America is probably more individualist than Europe.Collectivism is like, East Asia
>>220331997Americans are collectivists.
>>220331997Americans aren't allowed to not believe in god, the bugmind rejects it.
>>220332003>>220332038Everyone wants to be special here. They all think they're the main character and do things that benefit themselves over things that would collectively benefit society.
>>220332218>Everyone wants to be special hereIf everyone is special, then no one is. Americans confirmed for collectivists.
>>220332235Amerants btfo
>>220330880what is his culture?
>>220332218exactly. you want to be special becaise you care what the collective might think of you and you want to be the superhero of it one day rushing in with your big truck guns blazing saving everyone.
>>220332397VERY good post.
Americans are individualist philosophically but collectivist socially. They have a stronger culture of low-level social organization (religious congregations, charities, political machines, etc. -- labor unions being the exception, curiously enough) even if individually they identify as hyper-individualists.In European countries in the modern era the state or church (high-level institutions) have always been more powerful than in America so there's never been such need for communities to organize themselves, and so Europeans don't share that sentiment. Europeans are collectivist in spirit (part of a common nation, village or town, etc.; their in-groups are tighter) but it doesn't show in everyday life because a higher authority takes care of everything, and so they can be individualist in practice.
>>220330880>individualism>collectivismmade up nonsense
>>220331997USA is such a collectivist society they have a custom of "tippin culture"this means everyone gives tips even though its not legally enforced, in order to pay for waiters' wages who otherwise only get a symbolic wage from their employer
The real dichotomy is statism vs anti-statism or really, you might be tired of hearing it but it's true, socialism vs anti-socialism
>>220330880israeli sigmaism
>>220330880Western civilization is individualist in general. America is that on steroids.
>>220331997Americans are nihilist
>>220333323stop hornyposting!
>Europeans gather and discuss my country unprompted, making wild and sweeping accusations and conclusions>they think they know everything about my country because they only consume American media all day
>>220333626This is exactly how a Chinese person would react.
>This thread Is today opposite day? Europeons give up their rights for safety.
>>220333762Fatmericans have ZERO rights.
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>>220332397I would swap Apu and Smug Pepe
>>220333788We know that isn't true because we get to see what's happening in Britain every single day. It's kind of hilarious just how correct the MUHGUNZ guys were. They are helpless and their government bullies them for the smallest things.
>>220332003america has the most individualist culture of any nation on earth and it's not even close. I didn't realize this was controversial.
>>220331997>>220332003Both are meaningless wordsBoth Americans and Europeans clap and fart during sport or do similar things.
>>220333994>>220334986COPE.
>>220332449South-East Asia + Mexico
>>220331997>>220332218>Everyone wants to be special hereIf you were truly individualistic, you would NOT give a fuck about what others think about you. Retards here want to be special because of how they want the collective to see them. Their status, their izzat in front of other retarded normgroids. That’s why some morons take offense at being called an incel or a whore. Why would you care otherwise? Who do you have to prove? Random nobodies. Just look at how your president behaves and how the opininated fags respond >>220332988>Americans are individualist philosophically but collectivist socially.This is closer to the truth.
>>220330880>American collectivism404. Americans would rather kill themselves to ever be collectivist anything.
>>220338576Americans invented collectivism.
literally me on the left wtf
>>220330880Their mongrelity has completely destroyed them as a society.
>>220332003Germans are more collectivist by far. You all collectively import turks.
>>220339075Collectivism is illegal here. Individualism is state-mandated and government-enforced.
>>220338587Karl Marx was from Germany you retarded historylet.
>>220339089Pure fanfiction.
>>220339113This is collectivist propaganda.
>>220339145Pure fatfiction.
>>220330880American frog was first therefore it is more SOVLFVL Apu is a shitty impostor unironically used by trannies and made by 2016 election tourists.
>>220339203The femboy has spoken.
>>220339203apufags are the chud version of tranny puppy "girls"
>>220339241The fatboy has spoken.
>>220334986That's a very common myth. You literally stand up for your national anthem at fucking sports games. You all eat the same products from the same corposlop manufacturers.>>220339113Bakunin invented collectivism. Marx and Bakunin hated each other. Read a book.
>>220339442>You literally stand up for your national anthem at fucking sports gamesWhy are they so collectivist?
>>220339442okay ivan
>>220332003This. Americans worship Capitalism. That is inherently Collectivist. They sacrifice personal freedom for the Greater Good of the Economy
American students have to pledge their allegiance before class starts every single day.They are collectivists.
>>220330880why are europeans superior to unitedstatians at everything?
>>220340699German admixture.