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So within Islamic morality, drinking is bad, promiscuity is bad etc... I get that... but the reward for not partaking in these things... is that you get 72 virgins and rivers flowing with wine in the afterlife? Someone else has had to have noticed this flaw...
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>>220466620
have you ever wondered why arabic numerals roll over the decimal after 9? i mean, i'm sure THAT's not the reason, but it's funny to think about
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>>220466620
It's to get thirdies to put off their debauched tendencies by promising they'll get to indulge later.
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>>220466673
what a ridiculous statement
honestly speaking, i think less of you for proposing such ideas
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>>220466620
the 72 virgins is only if you die in battle among other things for martyrs
the rivers flowing with wine in the afterlife supposedly don't make you get drunk but taste amazing without the vice
besides at that point the test is over supposedly
t ex muslim former certified hafiz
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>>220466769
Will muslim zoomers get a self refilling can of Monster (tm) instead?
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>>220466620
It's a really smart system if you think about it. They still indulge in those things because they're only human. The rules are there to make them feel guilty and make sure people don't get overly addicted. Polish Tatar muslims will drink vodka indoors and say that Allah can't see them because the roof obstructs his view lmao
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>>220466769
do women get virgin males
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>>220466769
>the rivers flowing with wine in the afterlife supposedly don't make you get drunk but taste amazing without the vice
Couldn't they just drink non-alcoholic wines or like grape juice if the taste is what they want?
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>>220466886
No. Women go to hell for gossip or they end up becoming their husband's harem managers.
Which makes sense because being able to micro-manage a group of people's lives is every woman's wet dream.
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>>220466850
you're supposed to get whatever the hell you want there
you just imagine it and it happens but when i asked to test the limitations as a kid i was shrugged off
>do i get to wish for a real yu gi oh card monster?
>hahah *headpat* cute child!
>>220466886
no
those are for men only
only men can be martyrs in sunni islam
men also get boys to fuck
yes actual boys
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>>220466883
>Polish Tatar muslims
kino
>>220466769
moreover if a man who met these requirements for the 72 virgins in the afterlife was gay and genuinely desired gay sex over heterosexuality deeply in his soul despite repressing it in the real world would his virgins be male as well
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>>220466956
>men also get boys to fuck
>yes actual boys
Oh yeah there's twinks in the harem called ghilman.
The girl ones are houris.
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>>220466620
>Islamic morality
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>>220466673
Arabs didn't even make the numerals albeit
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>>220466922
how much alcohol is bad is debatable
but as of the current day and age there is no method to fully remove 100% of alcohol from drinks and even non-alcoholic beverages have a 0.1% left in there
they do drink non alcoholic beers in the arab world like pic related is marketed as "barley water" when it's just beer
>>220466966
the thing is no gay man would make it to heaven
there is no being gay and just repressing it in islam
it's a vice and you wont make it if you secretly are gay
but islam also says that even the worst people will eventually be purified in jahannam and be allowed into heaven...
it makes no sense to me either
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>>220466995
What's up with the middle east and their obsession with young men? Are they all secretly gay?
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>>220466956
if a tranny went to muslim heaven do they get turned into the opposite sex
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>>220467054
Legacy of Rome unironically
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>>220467061
no
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>>220467054
In the Victorian age, Westerners were asking the same question.
I think it's Med culture.
The men in the Middle East and Mediterranean are so hairy that they subconsciously register anyone without that much body hair as female, which includes boys/young men.
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>>220467136
What about in Shia Heaven?
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>>220467136
doesnt sound like you get anything you want there then
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>>220467209
i really don't know anything about shia there was no shias in north africa
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>>220467248
i really don't know what to say
on one hand you get everything but on the other hand allah can still get mad at stuff like that or refuse it
or they can say in heaven youd be cured of your desire to be a woman
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>>220467284
well based on what you said it sounds like a lot of assumptions on what people want are made (men must want to have sex with dozens of beautiful women, women don't want sex and instead want to micromanage their husband's harem?) and then enforced in muslim heaven, genuinely what is the difference between that and real life?
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>>220467409
not much and i had that thought too as a kid
islamic heaven is very mundane but to an arab desert person it must be amazing back then
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>>220466673
Because it’s a decimal (base 10) system
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>>220467248
You get whatever you want as long as you're a cishet man.
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>>220467447
so you get whatever you want but if its something youre not allowed to want even in the afterlife god will make you not want that thing... this shit sounds like it was made up by a 6 year old
if its gonna be like that then to all the way and be like "in the afterlife you wont feel desire anymore and you will be at peace eternally" like nirvana or something
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>>220466673
I literally and unironically have no idea what you're talking about
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>>220466620
We have the same thing around the world. You g et an email and someone has a bx full of gold bullion for you and they will send it as soon as you pay the $250 shipping and insurance fee. So you pay and then there's another fee and then another.

>there is no box of bullion
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>>220466673
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>>220467466
What the fuck are you schizos even talking about?
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>>220467736
yeah it does suck
i dunno what to say
i personally left the religion because my brain couldn't tolerate the idea of a good person going to hell for being gay or not muslim
i had lots of non-muslim friends
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>>220467052
What about shia gays being given tranny surgery in iran? Is that kosher to sunnis?
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>>220468122
no it's not and it's seen as an outrage by sunnis
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>>220466620
Nope. You get "companions" which can or cannot be sexual. It's ambiguous but indeed some early scholars thought it included sexual services.
That 72 virgins is a hadith with dubious source and only applies to martyrs.

About wine. It's illegal on earth because it causes intoxication(and general health issues) but would be legal in Paradise because the negative effects of alcohol doesn't apply to the afterlife.

Islamic theology is actually fascinating once when pass through the memes
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>>220467052
>the thing is no gay man would make it to heaven
Depends. Some scholars think God's mercy is unbound and eventually even sinners will make it to heaven
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>>220467915
are you replying to yourself
this is one of the early signs for insanity, you know
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>>220466769
Wait did you actually memorised the Qoran
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>>220466883
>Polish Tatar muslims will drink vodka indoors and say that Allah can't see them because the roof obstructs his view lmao
Im pretty sure God is omniscient
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>>220468402
i did mention that above that even the worst offenders will eventually be cleansed according to some people and go to heaven
but i assume when cleansed those thoughts would leave their soul
>>220468527
yes
i got beat into it as a child
i forgot a lot of it and now i have religious trauma but hey i can atleast quote verses randomly to win arguments against my brother
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>>220468811
>but i assume when cleansed those thoughts would leave their soul
Honestly I can't imagine how you'll even feel sexual attraction without hormones and stuff

It seems Muhammad was trying to describe something indescritible to a primitive people that were largely pagan
>i got beat into it as a child
I'm sorry for it, but mad respect. Qoran is massive

We're you a cleric or something?
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>>220468953
who knows
i never hated mohammad personally i think most of the problems come from people misunderstanding him
>We're you a cleric or something?
no just an autistic child that parents thought was gifted
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>>220468811
>but hey i can atleast quote verses randomly to win arguments against my brother
Recite the moon/al-qamar
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>>220469533
اقتربت الساعة و انشق القمر, و ان يرو اية يعرضو و يقولو سحر مستمر
it's a long surah and it's about the moon breaking apart as a miracle yet people still doubt allah
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>>220466620
There is no flaw. In the afterlife THERE IS NO SIN. You can do whatever the fuck you want. No limits. That is the reward. Sin is only in this life. Let's say you want to go on a murder spree in Heaven for some reason. You can do it and not get punished because it's heaven and will reset after you got your fill. Think of the Star Trek Holodeck. Something like that x1 trillion.
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>>220469191
>no just an autistic child that parents thought was gifted
Damn.
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>>220471564
>playing survival mode unlocks sandbox mode



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