How often does this situation happen in your country?
>>220552581Literally never because it always is actually a muzzle
All those desert shitskin religions should be banned anywaysWe need forced state atheism like in ChinaThe difference is nobody cares about Christians anymore because they aren't a threat
it doesn't since I live in a country where mexicans are allowed to dress in their traditional clothing when they are working on my lawn
>>220552610Least hypocrite Frenchie.
>>220552581How much of a mentally challenged monkey do you need to be in order to use AI to make generic simple drawings like those instead of your hands
>>2205526203% of practicing Christians in France, half of which are blackThey're literally harmless larpersThe hypocritical action would be to pretend they are to be taken as seriously as the muslims
>>220552581truke. way way far back in christian history muslims and christians used to have the same decency laws but people conveniently forget this when they deride muslims as being backwards sand goblinspeople forget that bikinis were banned in western countries until hundred years ago
this weekend has been hell because of mexicans celebrating easter and blocking all the roads with their processionsidk I only make $31/hr, I got shit to do and money to make. I don't have time to sit behind people reciting all 17 prayers of saint juanita de marina del taco in the same spot saint chico el bonita culo was killed by el bandito ef juarez or algo in the middle of the fucking road
>>220552641The highly practicing USA adopted the bikini. The atheist USSR banned it.
a normal human walks at 3 mphan 85+ day laborer carrying a real size cross he made at work is walking at 1.5 mphless if he is wearing sandals as all brown people dothe limit's 55 and state police will NOT let me pass on saturday or sundayvery disappointed ICE wasnt there
>>220552661we didn't adopt it, we just can't stop it
>>220552581marge why does his hair colour changes
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>>220552581I do speak like that and say that
>>220552646Soulless
>>220552581Everybody shits on the catholic church for being paedos. Its open season on them
>>220552610Christianity is the true and correct religion.We will continue to spread it, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.Christianity is true.God is real.Demons are real.Hell is real.Heaven is real.Jesus is Lord.https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/scholarly-writingshttps://laurazpowell.org/blog/just-the-facts-maam-the-minimal-facts-argument-for-the-resurrection-of-jesus>The best explanation for the facts agreed upon by virtually every scholar of every religious persuasion and worldview who has studied the evidence is that Jesus actually rose from the dead. If someone wants to dispute this, they must deal with the evidence, including the criteria for historical reliability, and offer some reason why this explanation falls short or provide a better explanation for the facts.https://youtube.com/watch?v=12syh8dPOtohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=JzklRPDfAj0
I woke up and felt bad because I remembered Im atill in Peetalia. But then I saw this thread and remembered places like Tunigghia exist, and this made my thoughts more bearable
>>220553398>Jesus' brother JamesWhat
>>220553393>It should be noted that while childhood sexual abuse by Catholic clergy has received extensive media coverage, childhood sexual abuse by teachers and others is also a serious problem. Charol Shakeshaft, who has done extensive research on the problem of sexual abuse of students by teachers, recognizes the difficulty of collecting solid data on sexual abuse; but using available studies, she estimates that “the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than one hundred times the abuse by priests.” According to Shakeshaft's research, even when abuse was reported to school officials the offenders were not reported to the police. In her study of 225 cases in New York, “none of the abusers were reported to authorities and only 1 percent lost their license to teach.” A recent article in The New York Times documented abuse—including sexual abuse—of the developmentally disabled in group homes. Even when abuse was uncovered, perpetrators were allowed to continue working at other facilities.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6026962/https://www.edweek.org/leadership/sexual-abuse-by-educators-is-scrutinized/2004/03https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/17/child-sexual-abuse-in-schools-often-an-open-secret-says-inquiryhttps://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna21392345https://www.nj.com/education/2017/12/teachers_accused_of_sexual_misconduct_keep_getting.htmlhttps://childrenstreatmentcenter.com/sexual-abuse-teachers/
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I've never seen the pope just walking about
>>220553393I think the catholic church as an institution is like the police. Some psychopaths use it to attain power that they then use for their own depraved self intrests instead of serving the community. Such people exist everywhere, in the education system for example Jeffrey Epstein started out as a math teacher, yet the ministry of education doesn't get half the bad rep the catholic church does even though I'm willing to bet there are more pedophile teachers even per Capita than there are pedo catholic priests.Just like the police there needs to be special filtering so the psychopaths don't get admitted.
>>220553398>A = Appearances: Jesus’ disciples believed they saw Jesus resurrected from the dead. Non-Christian scholars don’t believe Jesus actually rose from the dead, but they do acknowledge that Jesus’ disciples believed they saw Jesus risen from the dead.So far so good. This is also the most logical explanation for people who see ghosts and such.>S = Skeptics: Paul, an enemy of Christ, and James the brother of Jesus, a skeptic, both became followers of Jesus after what they believed to be resurrection appearances. It wasn’t just Jesus’ friends and initial followers who were convinced; early skeptics and even enemies of Christ were convinced that Jesus was the risen Lord. (...)>Based on these facts, we can make the case that the best explanation for the evidence is that Jesus rose from the dead, both literally and bodilyThis is a non-sequitur and where you start losing me. "Skeptics were eventually convinced that he did resurrect, so he did" is not an argument at all. I don't believe in ghosts yet I could easily be convinced that my best friend did see a ghost. In older times I might deduce from it that the ghost did exist.Keep in mind I am not an American atheist, I have nothing against Christians and value the cultural heritage and tradition. However I really do not believe you are helping your case by presenting such a flawed reasoning as proof : it is bound not to convince anyone with enough background. Neither will I start larping as "cultural Christian" without having faith, that is hypocritical and ridiculous.There are much better arguments if you want to convince people. I'd start here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Genius_of_Christianity that's better than your website. Chateaubriand's entire argument is willfully irrational and a philosophical defense of irrationality, which is already much more convincing than pseudo-science.
>>220553504>"Skeptics were eventually convinced that he did resurrect, so he did" is not an argument at all. That's not the argument.Try again.
>>220553554Of course it is. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a lost cause but if you really think the website you posted is convincing maybe you are.
>>220553596No, it isn't.I'm not surprised at all that an atheist like you needs to strawman to avoid the inevitable conclusion the evidence points to.It's a common pattern of behavior I notice with you atheists.Your rejection of Christianity is based on emotion, not logic.You don't want to accept the truth, because it has implications for your life.
>>220552581Nuns choose a life of devotion by their own free will, many Muslim women face threats from their cousins, brothers etc. if they don't cover up. This is not really a good comparison
>>220553504>>220553596your ghost example PROVES you didn't understand the argumentare you stupid or illiterate?
>>220553628It's the lynchpin of the argument.Look, the entire thing does not even have a logical structure it's simply an accumulation of points.>Multiple AttestationMany people said it so it's more reliable : does not make it necessarily true.>Early AttestationThey said it early so it's more reliable : same.>Enemy attestationEnemies said that the body disappeared : same, so what?>EmbarrassmentA very dubious idea about women being logical and not wanting to appear crazy >DissimilarityBecause of course a radical sect of Jews would follow mainstream beliefs and would never go against it, right?Apparently an argument is made by stacking talking points now ?1/2
>>220553842The arguments against refutations are not any more convincing.>The Swoon TheoryI'll give him this one that is ridiculous.>An Invention of the DisciplesHe argues that "This is a problem from Minimal Facts Argument because it rejects the A – Appearances.". It contradicts itself, if it's an invention they didn't see it in the first place. Because some scholars argue that they might have seen something does not prove they necessarily did. Nothing actually proves his "A" point in the first place. "Non-Christian scholars don’t believe Jesus actually rose from the dead, but they do acknowledge that Jesus’ disciples believed they saw Jesus risen from the dead." not all of them and not necessarily, it simply might have been the case.And then "they suffered because of it" so what ? They also stood to gain so it was a risk.>The Hallucination Theory Here is what I was talking about "This is a problem from the Minimal Facts because it rejects the S – Skeptics. Paul, an enemy of Christ,(...)He wasn’t friends with Jesus. He boasted of killing Christians." So an enemy can't possibly be convinced of a thing ? This makes no sense.And "Yet another problem for the Hallucination Theory is that hallucinations occur in the mind. They’re not group events, and they’re not contagious." disproven by modern neuroscience, collective hallucinations are absolutely real.>Myths that Developed Over Time Where he argues that it was made too early so it can't be that. Completely false, a myth can be developed at any point after an event.>Conclusion>The best explanation for the facts agreed upon by virtually every scholar of every religious persuasion and worldview who has studied the evidence is that Jesus actually rose from the deadYou can not be serious. Again, there are better arguments than whatever this shit is, you are not helping your case.
Here's my argument for God: I don't get paid to question or defend God to anyone.
>>220553842No, it's not.You're a liar.
>>220552581I have never ever seen a live nun
>>220553863I will not move on to the rest of your copebabble until you confess to your strawman.Typical slimy lying atheist.
>>220553887If you believe in Jesus I suppose he would like you to be more convincing
>>220553913So you refuse to apologize for your lying.That makes further conversation pointless. Goodbye.Ladies and gentlemen, this is atheists in a nutshell. Liars to the core, because they're afraid.Make sure to watch the videos.
>>220553873>>220553991It's the lynchpin of the argument because the entire argument rests on the premise he calls "CASE" or minimal facts. Most of it would be acceptable, if we were generous and said "Alright, so they really did see Jesus, what then ?" which is already a stretch in and of itself. There is no proof that they actually did, it's a thought experiment where we're being as generous as possible.But we can give it an attempt. So what then : if they did see a dead man rise again maybe they hallucinated it ? Well, according to this it's impossible, because some people who didn't like him also saw it. And this is why the argument is nonsense, you could hate Jesus and still see him, just like some people claim to have seen the devil or ghosts.
>>220553842>>220553863You're arguing with a Christian. He's not going to acknowledge anything you say, and you're wasting time engaging with his arguments seriously.
>>220554004>more copebabbleUntil you admit to your strawman, I will not engage further with your lies.You contemptible scumbag.
Who would've thought christians, who are part of a jewish death cult, are insane.
>>220554053Atheists like you and your but-buddy are dishonest liars to the core, as anyone who read through the argument and your butt-buddy's misrepresentation of it can see.Making yourselves look like the slimy little snakes you are. Works for me. Dumb redditor.
>>220554057You worship a jew and a jewish god and your books are written by jews, your mythology is jewish, everything about your identity is worshiping the jews
>>220553398>We will continue to spread it, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.it's dying out on its own in all civilized, first world countries. but yeah bro, keep spreading it to those niggers in africa i guess lol
>>220554081Atheism is a mental disease.Atheists are just spiteful mutants throwing a tantrum at their Creator because they're failures:>The mutant says in his heart, “there is no God”: the rejection of collective religiosity centred around the worship of moral Gods is associated with high mutational loadarchive.vn/aNzyfAtheists ought to be barred from public life altogether, for the good of society.Religious people are healthier, happier, more social, stronger, more charitable, basically better in every way than gaytheist basement-dwelling neckbeard losers who failed at life and are seething about it.Atheism is a suicidal delusion for weak, spineless, spiteful pussies.
>>220554102>You worship a jewcope>and a jewish godIHVH is not Jewish>and your books are written by jewsMost Old-Testament books are written by non-jews>your mythology is jewishIt's not a myth.>everything about your identity is worshiping the jewsSays the nigga that thinks the Old Testament was written by the Jew. You are an actual Golem.
If not a good argument for Christianity, a good argument for Catholicism is that anyone who's not a priest with decades of training able to propose decent rhetoric was simply forced to shut the fuck up, there is a centralized doctrine by people who are at least not completely retarded, and plebs had no idea what was in the Bible. If not necessarily more believable it's certainly a lot more tolerable.
>>220554112Christianity is growing in East Asia and Eastern Europe, you stupid redditor
>>220554150The secularisation of Europe is the infantilisation of EuropeManchildren need egaltiarianism so their insolence can be represented in the government. And that's how nigger rapists get imported.
>>220552581I've seen nuns like 3 times total in my life.I see hijabs and burqas every time I go to a city.This is in the rural north of England too.
>>220554081>>220554102That's funny coming from the mentally-ill freaks (atheists) who think chopping off your penis makes you a woman
>>220554081>>220554102Atheists are literally the most insane and mentally-ill demographic group.
>>220553106this
>>220554182>>220554198Atheists don't live in reality. They live in materiality.
>>220554143Yes pretty much everything in these books are written by jews, all the names are hebrew, it is jewish mythology.
>>220554167The vast majority of modern European Christians are egalitarian. Much more than the average citizen. The Church is actively militant in favour of mass immigration. Have you even listened to the Pope ? Seen how much the Church is the main actor in aiding "refugees" ? Have you seen the pope kissing nigger feet ? Have you read the Christian newspaper or listened to Christian tv ? La Croix, the official Church journal, is one of the most left-wing papers in the country.I could at least listen to the pragmatic argument of the effects of Christianity on society if Christians weren't pro-immigration leftists.
>>220554223>all the names are hebrewThat doesn't make one a Jew, you absolute imbecile.
>>220554182>mentally-ill freaks (atheists) who think chopping off your penis makes you a womanYou believe the Judean storm God created the entire universe just 6000 years ago, that a talking snake made us self-aware and that it was evil to do so, that the Judean storm God has committed multiple genocides yet is perfectly good, and is all powerful but lost to iron chariots, and that if you say some special words you can alchemically transmutate bread into the flesh of a man who died 2000 years ago, and that anyone who doesn't believe this without any proof will be tortured for eternity.
>>220554208Atheists have daddy issues and/or want to stuff things up their butt.That's the entire basis for their atheism. It's all about emotion and muh freedoms to be a degenerate.
>>220554231The Pope isn't a Catholic.
>>220554182>>220554238Why don't you Israel worshippers just go die to some Iranian rocket already? Don't you desperately want to cause the end of the world, when you're not rolling around on the flood at the megachurch or giving all your belongings to your televangelist?
>>220554260Neither am I. I'm not some cucked idea of what a Man should be, I'm God's alone. I'm God's strongest retard, now shut the fuck up, factionating kike.
>>220554231Atheists are the pro-immigration leftists, you atheist retard.
>>220554268What is the meaning of your reply you mongoloid? When so called Israelis get hit by Iranian rockets, I celebrate.
>>220553991Christianity is a gatway to atheism. Look how all christian nations have abandoned that pathetic cult as soon as thy were able to read and write.Islam will save EUropa from the claws of NATO, liberal democracy and capitalism. Meanwhile christianity, has no issues with holding hands with anyone, royals, fascists, communists, liberals, conservatives, they will do anything to remain in power and rlevant.Christianity is a an evil cult created by Paul, who corrupted the teachings of Jesus
>>220554238So why do you worship a religion that is all about that part of the world?
>>220554288That isn't Christian behaviour. Read the Bible.
>>220554279Cool! Then go hit a representative, you “strongest retard”
>>220554231>atheist has an inverted view of realityAs usual.That's why you're an atheist: You're stupid and gullible and prioritize your emotions over reason, evidence, and logic.
>>220554299Matthew 5:44
>>220554306Were there dinosaurs on the Ark? Huh buddy? Fucking retard.
>>220554239Funny how you made spewed several lies and strawmen, yet none of them is as absurd as your stupid atheism.
>>220554291Fascism is awesome>>220554297What are you talking about? The Bible celebrated it when Assyrian babies were being massacred by Babylonians. The same way we Christians celebrate when Jews are being hit by Iranian rockets. These heathens deserve it.>>220554296The hebrew prophets possessed a truth that Greek oracles or Germanic priests did not. They foresaw the coming of the Messiah, who founded the Church to give out the truth to the whole of mankind.
Crazy how they worship matthew 5:10 jewman ).10 but never astrid 4:19 and erik 59:13 makes you think
>>220554320You can love someone and still hit them, like in any proper marriage.
>>220554268Why don't you chop off your penis and kill yourself like your fellow atheists?Is it because, deep down, you know your professed atheism is stupid and absurd?
>>220554339Brown people said something that we didn't because we had nothing to do with their brown mythology. You need to get your head checked
>>220554377You have subhuman IQ
>>220554358Love is impossible between two people who know eachother personally.
>>220554339Clearly you missed the entire message of Jesus and the New Testament and only cherry pick a few verses from the Jewish Bible/Old Testament.That or you're a troll. The Bible says to love the foreigner and be peaceful like 100 times. Also says there's no difference between Jew and non Jew.
>>220554291Pathetic lying heathencuck.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology>Christianity is a an evil cult created by Paul, who corrupted the teachings of JesusLol you bullshitting stupid idiot, Paul did nothing but repeat the teachings of Jesus and Peter.Peter commended Paul and accompanied him.Are you a muzzie? If so, you're obligated to hold Paul in high regard.Did your dawahtards leave that part out to you?
>>220554378>How dare you listen to people that are 5% more tanned than you instead people living on your own turf 2000 years ago that never wrote down anything impressiveWhatever you think honey
>>220554352I be a hindu or platonist before a paganlarper, because at least they wrote down anything of value quotable in chapter and verse. Astrid and Erik never did that. Why? Because our ancestors sucked at the whole religion business before Christians appeared. The Germanic people did not even have a name for Saturn. Why take that obsolete religion serious?
>>220554420>>220554421Two of the dumbest and evilest retards you know both walk into the same thread:
>>220554282We are not the USA lmao. Practicing Christians here vote much less far right than the average citizen, see graph.
>>220554327Who said, you hallucinating brain-damaged atheist retard?
>>220554405English mistranslations bear no authority.I know what the Church's tradition says. It says none of that, and only the Church has the authority to exegete the Bible.
>>220554481Atheists are more far right than practicing Christians, in fact. Only non-practicing Christians, whatever that means, are the furthest right in this country.
>>220554492The Pope say no to war and washes the feet of migrants. Which is exactly what Jesus would do too.
>>220554458Aw, the atheist freak from reddit got real upset. Gonna cry to mommy?
>>220552581This doesn't happen because Christianity has literally zero presence imc at this point unless you go specifically looking for it.
Papists need to get out too
>>220554502makes perfect sense that the christians that do not partake in the novus ordo freemasonic auto-humiliation club would be the furthest right. Consider that the only “practicing Christians” left are the retarded boomers that only worship d*mocracy and hate the actual tradition of the actual church.>>220554516Jesus would only wash the feet of his disciples, not random savages. Plus, there has been no Pope since Pius XII.
>>220554527You worship Israel
>>220554481>>220554502Atheists are suicidal mentally-ill left-wing idiots, you braindead moron.
Atheists are literally spiteful mutants.
>>220552581Never became nuns wearing an outfit while Muslim women wear a towel and there are more Muslims
>>220554571You have to keep repeating yourself with such desperation because your point isn't landing.When something is immediately and self evidently total nonsense that doesn't match their lived reality they stop paying attention.At least 99% of people do. 1% are retards like you who believe Moses was riding around on a triceratops just 5000 years ago.
>>220554238>Just because you were born to Jewish parents, received a Jewish circumcision and a Jewish upbringing, and both privately and publicly identify as a Jew, that doesn't mean you're Jewish! The least delusional Christian
>>220554584The problem is that religion is a useful social technology and atheists replaced it with being a progressive, which is inherently worse than just visiting your local church.
The veil comes from Sawda's poop
>>220552581I've never seen priests and nuns outside churches, pretty sure they change their clothes?
>>220554601The point isn't landing because it's not his job to understand it for you.
>>220554569Wrong. I worship the one true God.You worship degeneracy.
>>220554606Hey, Jew worshipper. None of these things are Jewish. Moses isn't a Jew. The Torah isn't Jewish. The Hebrew language isn't Jewish. Circumcision isn't Jewish. An upbringing according to mosaic law isn't Jewish.
>>220554666>666lol.This is your "god" with his cock out, alongside other gods from the Jewish pantheon too btw.You take the jewish bronze age mythology as literal truth despite having 0 evidence.
>>220554601>atheist retard fails to get the pointI'm not surprised.
>>220554686>Moses isn't a Jew. The Torah isn't Jewish. The Hebrew language isn't Jewish. Circumcision isn't Jewish.Okay now I am 100% certain you're just a troll. Well done, you got me. You were only pretending to be retarded. You must feel so rewarded.
>>220554722?The commandments of Moses opposed the Jewish religion then and today they opposed it
>>220554706>666Your point? Please do tell.The stupid gaytheist once again reveals he has no idea what he's babbling about.
>>220554722>You're trolling because... The education system failed me!I don't think so Tommy. Your intellectual failure has nothing to do with me supposedly pretending to be retarded, you actual retard.
>>220554744Moses (never existed btw, a mythological figure), is literally the foundational figure of modern Jewish religion and Jewish law.For a troll to work you have to make it somewhat believable, fucking retard.
It's clear religions are created and used by group of people to gain access to more power and sexual favors.
NAMBLA was created by atheists.Vaush defends pedophilia and child pornography.Mao fucked a 14 year old girl.Atheist "intellectuals" in France supported abolishing the age of consent.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_lawsFoucault raped childrenCharles Fourier wanted to fuck children.The MAPs movement was started by atheists.Secular public school system teachers are far more likely to molest their students than catholic priests.Numerous atheists have been outed as pedophiles.NAMBLA was started by atheists.Atheists defended Joseph Rosenbaum, a child rapist.John Money, the father of modern transgender movement, was an atheist who sexually abused children.Alfred Kinsey was an atheist pedophile hero.The famous atheist John Maynard Keynes frequently traveled to third world nations to have sex with boys.https://4w.pub/old-dominion-university-assistant-professor-comes-out-in-support-of-destigmatizing-pedophilia/https://streamable.com/hx77vhhttps://streamable.com/dyy2ghhttps://streamable.com/on2bychttps://twitter.com/GodEmpanada/status/1476733086217949186https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHNeOLl1hOs
>>220554584I look like this and say this.
>>220554766Your family is a mythological figure.
>>220554777Half of these aren't true, but everyone knows the church rapes little children.
>>220554766Uh no. Things like abortion are fundamental to the Jewish religion as seen in America where the Jews obtained religious permission to carry it out.Stick to Wikipedia edit wars
>>220554766This is on the same level as Mohammedans saying that Moses was a Muslim because the Koran says he was in heaven together with him.Do you realise how retarded you, and the mongoloid democrats that educated you, sound to anyone of value?
>>220554706Why is that calf sucking a bull's dick?
>>220554421It's more than skin color and the shape of their faces, it's how their brains work. People in the middle east are known for being dishonest liarshttps://archive.org/details/holohoax-tales-the-movie-part-1These are the honest people that you literally take for gospel>>220554453Because they burned our religious sites and killed people who did not worship your desert religion. Now you show your true colors by the way. You are a self-hating European. Pathetic faggot
@220554808Not even worth engaging with. Enjoy your schizophrenia/trolling in isolation. >>220554826Yummy protein
Reminder that atheists removed logic from the school curriculum to dumb people down to their level and make them more susceptible to atheist propaganda and manipulation.>Dewey and his secular-progressive peers viewed Formal Logic as a "mental fortress" that protected the individual against the state. To build a collective society, that fortress had to be dismantled.>1. The Strategy: Intellectual Disarmament>Formal logic (the Trivium) teaches students to detect fallacies and reject unsound premises. For a social engineer, this is a bug, not a feature.>The Proposition: Removing logic was an act of intellectual disarmament. By stripping students of the tools to objectively analyze a "truth claim," they are left with no defense against emotional or social manipulation.>2. The Goal: The "Plastic" Citizen>If there are no "laws of thought," there are no "laws of nature." Truth becomes whatever the collective consensus or the state deems useful.>Malleability: A student who cannot spot a non-sequitur is a student who can be programmed.>Engineering: By replacing "Is this logically true?" with "Does this serve the social good?", reformers turned schools from centers of Reason into factories for Compliance.>3. The Outcome: Social Utility Over Individual Sovereignty>Logic honors the individual mind’s ability to stand against the crowd. Dewey’s "Inquiry" honors the group’s ability to solve problems.>The Result: A population that is technically skilled enough to operate the machinery of society, but philosophically stunted enough to never question the hand on the lever.
>>220554855And he runs out of things to say because he simply hasn't even read the books he's criticising
>>220554771Atheism is a lie used to corrode, weaken, and destroy civilizations.
>>220554878>>220554808>>220554858Deny that the Earth is flat, under 10,000 years old, that we live in a seven layered glass dome, and that heaven is literally a city in the clouds.
>>220554758>to intelligent to explain to the midwits how Judaism isn't JewishThey cannot comprehend the suffering of the Christian intellectual. But for God, you walk this earth alone.
>>2205549043000+ years and you have still been unable to provide any evidence whatsoever for your beliefs. Not anything at all.
>>220554808You compensation for >>220554855
>>220554781We know.
>>220554849You only know a sixteenth of the whole picture and think you can cast judgements onto the Christian religion, or myself, or anyone.You should thank me that I even bother to enlighten you about history, as recluse neopagans don't want to study anything, they just want to worship the marvel heroes of the soýboys of the past.What do you think you know of history? Nothing.>People in the middle east are known for being dishonest liarsYou suppose that the creators of the holocaust hoax are of the same nature as ancient Israelites? And that the apostles are thus the same?You basically live in fantasy land, typical for a neopaganIt is obvious that the people who would purport to be Jews, after a millenium of being constantly selected for dishonesty, would be completely different in nature to the apostles whom they were unrelated to in the first place (as it is known that the Jews are descendants of Edomites converted by the Hasmonean dynasty)>Now you show your true colors by the way. You are a self-hating European. Pathetic faggotI'm not a self hating European, those ancient pagan priests just dont belong to Europe cause they are worth nothing. Just because they shat on the same soil, doesnt mean they get to stay.
>>220554793Wrong. Atheists rape little children.That's why atheists created NAMBLA and atheist "intellectuals" campaigned to abolish the age of consent.
>>220553106/threadReplace pointing finger with beheading.
The insane ameriburger christian is posting from his mobile phone.
>>220554855I think someone needs to tell you this: You reek of fish between the legs
>>220554766>Moses (never existed btwLet's see your proof.
@220554986You deny the Jewish religion is Jewish and then claim not to be a schizophrenic or a troll>>220554989You can't absolutely prove a negative. But then you don't understand logic at all so why should I bother explaining.There is however, despite 3000+ years of searching for it, zero evidence that a Moses ever existed, not any evidence that suggests the events of his life, or Jewish captivity in Egypt ever occured.
>>220552610this, so much this
>>220555043There is a huge correlation between people who use therapy speak and people whose daughters are being raped by paki grooming gangs. I think you need to know how stupid it makes you look.
>>220554934Wrong, you atheist idiot: >>220553398.Try reading the thread next time, you retarded atheist freak.
>>220554976Please understand, his religion venerates suffering and he normally has no opportunity to do that. He's deliberately making himself sound as deranged as possible, because among his peers his views are the most mundane and safe imaginable, and the internet is the only place where he can partake of the sacrament of being derided for his faith.
>>220552610>>220555094This but for atheists, since they're clearly retarded and civilization destroyers.
>>220555155go quake or something
>>220555043So you have no proof. Correct?
>>220555107>People who didn't believe believed >This proves the Bible is trueAnd your little chart just repeats the claims of the Bible as if doing so is evidence.I could repeat the Greek myths in a dumb ass infographic and claim ancient Greeks claimed it happened, doesn't prove anything.But then again, logic and critical thinking are an anathema to your schizophrenic ideology.
>>220554849>ourLMAOStupid cuck
>>220554959Retard, you are worshiping a jewish (or as you call it israelite) religion, you want others to worship it too. You don't see the issue with this because all your knowledge is from grifters on youtube.
>>220554909I am noticing both the American and the German refused to admit the world isn't flat, under 10,000 years old, and that it's covered by a literal glass dome.
>>220554904Why didn't belief in God save Byzantine civilization? Medieval Bagdad? Ottoman Empire?
>>220555201How dare I get informed autonomously instead of through swedish state television. I see that we are into the business of projection>Retard, you are worshiping a jewish (or as you call it israelite) religion, you want others to worship it too. I don't give a fuck what you or others worship. I just want to remind you that your alternative, that being neopaganism, is spiritually dead garbage that appeals to people that are desperate for identity and no one else. You calling Christianity or the Israelites “Jewish” is just a defence mechanism
>>220555043>There is however, despite 3000+ years of searching for it, zero evidence that a Moses ever existed, not any evidence that suggests the events of his life, or Jewish captivity in Egypt ever occured.The books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy are evidence, you braindead atheist idiot.That's more evidence than most ancient historical figures.>they don't count because… because they just don't, ok? they hurt my feelings!Peak atheist "logic".
>>220555265Condemn the flat earth theory
>>220555238I did not even notice your post. It is preposterous though. You want an affirmation of your beliefs? Forget about it. You can suck on my dick
>>220555282See >>220555284Condemn the flat earth theory>>220555286Why should anyone was time with a schizophrenic retard who believes the world is flat and that the Torah isn't Jewish?
>>220555238My dad genuinely believes the Earth is less than 10000 years old. I find it difficult to take him seriously, but apparently some people do think that.
>>220555263These rottenous states had nothing to do with God. But even then, the role religion played in these socities saved them from thousands of collapses before their ultimate collapse
>>220555179>your little chart just repeats the claims of the BibleWrong, you braindead atheist idiot.These are settled historical facts accepted by historians, and corroborated not only by the multiple documents that ended up in the Bible, but by others as well.Try learning how to read, you stupid reddit ape.
>>220555345None of those claims are proof of Christianity. They are an explanation of the Biblical story and now the early church started.Now condemn flat earth theory.
>>220555317>They had nothing to do with God>But at the same time, it was a definite benefit for them that they had so much to do with GodTo the Christian mind, there is no contradiction. All the things the Christian believes are true, and if it seems like they shouldn't all be true at the same time, that's just further proof of the infinite mystery of God.
>>220555303You know, the belief that the Torah is Jewish is so braindead and embrassing. And now you want to make me appear like someone who believes in another braindead and embarassing theory for stating a simple fact. Imagine going to a Samaritan and telling them that the Torah they have is actually Jewish. They would laugh at you. They would think, what an insolent westerner coming here trying to berate us about our tradition, thinking he knows better because the intellectually infantilised education system of England, or whatever it is that got you to this point, calls our Torah Jewish because they have no idea what the words they use even mean.And then you call me schizophrenic.Therapy speak is a defence mechanism for the intellectually weak. Make your opponent seem mad.Why are you even opposing me over this? It's ridiculous. What do you gain from portraying the Torah as a Jewish book? You can just discard and criticise Christianity without the need of an impurity test, you know. But you are simply too dishonest to do that. Because that is what half of this website is trained on. One purity test after the next. That's why you need that affirmation that the earth is a globe too.l
>>220555345This had been asked a few times now, but seriously who the fuck is James?
>>220554807abortion is NEVER outlawed in the JEWISH bible you sub iq moron lol. That it's banned in christainity if anything proves it has NOTHING to do with the actual beliefs of jesus and the apostles
>>220552581Never, we hate Islam because it opposes Christianity.
>>220555417Are you the Amerimutt on a VPN? It's fine if you are, there's nothing wrong about being an Amerimutt.
>>220555381Yeah. There is no Contradiction. See the example of Medieval Baghdad: Mohammed had nothing to do with God. He didn't see God when he was on shrooms in some cave in what is today Jordan, later retconned to be western Arabia. But as all good Christians know: Everything good comes from God. Every wisdom strange religions have is due to God's permission In Mohammedanism's case it is because they directly copied the Christian religion, and used Christian principles to create a well ordered society. In the example of Hinduism or other religions, they could do such things through the study of the natural world and the wisdom gained from it. This is not because “God works in mysterious ways” but because humans were created in the image of God.
>>220555265You refuse to acknowledge the fact that your whole identity as a religious christian is based on jewish mythology. Your entire post history is mental gymnastics trying to justify it. Also "paganism" is not dead because it's not the same religious concept as your abrahamic religion, there are no gods you pray to, text to interpet. Go ask any Swede if they believe in a god, they will say no, ask them if they believe in reincarnation they will say yes. Also all our holidays are "pagan".
>>220555369They're established historical facts, not "claims", you pathetic, lying little atheist snake.
>>220555201You worship degeneracy and want to destroy Western Civilization.Atheists are nothing but spiteful mutants, societal entropy, and civilization destroyers. Filth.
>>220555404>atheist is literally too retarded to use GoogleNot surprised.
>>220555549Just answer the question, if it's so easy.
>>220555404>who the fuck is James?According to Catholics, Orthodox, Lutherans, and Anglicans - he was the half-brother of Jesus, the son of Joseph and some other woman.The above denominations claim Mary was a Virgin for life so James couldn't have been Jesus' full blooded brother.According to all the Protestants besides Lutherans and Anglicans, he was in fact the full brother of Jesus, a younger brother, born from sex between Mary and Joseph.According to Christians he didn't believe in Jesus until after Jesus died. And then he became the leader of the Church in Jerusalem.There's also a book in the Bible that's supposedly written by him. Problem is, the earliest version of that book dates to 254 AD and was originally in Greek. So there's no way of knowing how true or fake it is.
>>220555495Condemn flat earth theory. Also there's nothing wrong with being gay.
>>220555492My post history is being objective about everything. Christianity, Judaism, Paganism. Your post history is just trying to prostelytise and get me to line up with lies that you think will make a rejection of Christianity more simple. >Also "paganism" is not dead because it's not the same religious concept as your abrahamic religion, there are no gods you pray to, text to interpetI already know that neopaganism is just meaningless LARP by physicalists who want to have an identity. Didn't I already expound on that in a previous post?>[...] no texts to interpreteAn admission of the inferiority of neopaganism. You have no texts to interprete because you will never create anyone of the likes of Kohelet or Moses. And when someone points this out, you will simply recoil and say: “Self hating European!” >Go ask any Swede if they believe in a god, they will say no, ask them if they believe in reincarnation they will say yes. And what does that matter? You think faith is some democracy game, where whatever the majority believes must be the right thing?>Also all our holidays are "pagan".And I'm the Emperor of China.
>>220555495>establishedtomb was never a recorded "empty" tomb outside the gospels which were written decades after the event and the accounts themselves differ from one anothervictims of roman crucifixion were usually left to die on the crosses or thrown into unmarked graves along with other corpses. so it doesn't even make sense he had his own tomb to begin with>>220555469show me in the old testament where it's banned
>>220555691Maybe it's different in Judaism, I wouldn't know. But for Christians, most of them don't care what the Bible actually says. They invent their own nonsense that perfectly aligns with and reinforces their pre-existing science-hating chud ideology.They basically ignore the entire New Testament apart from wanting the Apocalypse to come as soon as possible.They also cherry pick the most violent verses and a handful of Jewish laws from the Tanakh, totally out of context, and that's all they care about.
>>220555417Murder is the unjustified killing of an innocent human life.The Torah prohibits such murder.Scientifically, we know life begins at conception.>That it's banned in christainity if anything proves it has NOTHING to do with the actual beliefs of jesus and the apostlesNon sequitur.
>>220552610>They aren't threat>Past 500 years from Spanish papist to evangelical american era.jpgNice fking taqiyya christoid
>>220555641Science says otherwise.Figures that you're gay.That's why you're an atheist (reason: wants to stuff things up his butt).
>>220555760The Bible literally contains instructions on how to induce abortion. Numbers 5:21.It never condemns abortion.Modern Christianity is just a LARP to justify your hatred for science, society, women and minorities.
>>220555790>Modern Christianity is just a LARP to justify your hatred for science, society, women and minorities.Where can I find this awesome version of modern Christianity where I live all the “Christians” are just a bunch of boomers who dress up their democracy belief with the king of the jews
>>220555766shut up muzzdog
>>220555615>There's also a book in the Bible that's supposedly written by him. Problem is, the earliest version of that book dates to 254 AD and was originally in Greek. So there's no way of knowing how true or fake it is.Are you retarded?
>>220555750Nah, that's lying atheists like you.You love making things up.Because of >>220554858
Hitler had a greater vision than these grave diggers.No wonder he humiliated Himmler over his odd beliefs.
>>220555790Debunked:https://www.catholic.com/qa/does-numbers-5-mean-abortion-is-okhttps://www.gotquestions.org/Numbers-abortion.html>Modern Christianity is just a LARP to justify your hatred for scienceNope, you dumb redditor, that's atheists: >>220554858.Atheists are truth deniers, subverters, and destroyers of societies.
>>220555681Your post history is not being objective at all, it's a bunch of bogus of alternative theories to justify your belief. The fact that you deny the pagan elements shows how much of a dishonest retard you are, especially the pagan holidays. You do know that it's only called "christmas" because of christian missionaries from Rome as they failed to remove these pagan holidays. Also your larp argument doesn't hold because your entire religious identity is a larp, especially in modern age.
>>220555691The enemies of early Christianity (such as the Roman and Jewish authorities in the first century) admitted the tomb was empty by accusing Christians of stealing the body.That's called enemy attestation.Refrain from commenting, because you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
>>220556036>Christmas is on Solstice... AND SOLSTICE IS PAGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This is why it is important to call you neopagans. It would be an insult to the pagans of antiquity to compare you gullible braindead folk to them.
>>220555691You are ignorant and should stop talking.We literally have dug up other instances of crucifixion victims in tombs.Like Jehohanan.
>>220555968>citing christian sources interpreting the hebrew bibleLOL might as well what islamic scholars think of jesus>>220556053>source: the gospels>authors: anonymous lol
>>220556137>LOL might as well what islamic scholars think of jesusAnd they would still ramble less bullshit than the Rabbis. While also possessing more ancient Israelite genes than then
>>2205561371. Ad hominem.2. Genetic fallacy.3. Irrelevant.4. False analogy.5. Your religion of Rabbinic Judaism literally, and the Talmud, postdates Christianity by several centuries.So you're closer to the Muslims, temporally.
God is proven once you understand the meaning of Love.
>>220556137Your lying is tiresome and you will answer to God for it.>source: the gospelsYes. And others too.Even your Toledot Yeshu.>authors: anonymousFalse, idiot.
>>220556094I must admit that it's amazing how little you know about your own traditions because you've spent all this time on youtube listening to CrusderKnight88 from Austin, Texas. The entire holiday is pagan at it's core, we call it Jul. There are almost no christian elements in Jul here, there are more in Germany and England but that doesn't make it less pagan, it just shows how little substance christianity really has, especially in the context of us Europeans.
>>220555782Science doesn't condemn homosexuality. That's not how science works, you sub-zero IQ moron. It isn't a moral code.The Bible also never condemns homosexuality as a sin, from a Christian perspective.Where are the verses that supposedly condemn it? Those are Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, and again in Romans 1:26-27, and in 1 Corinthians 6:9–11; and 1 Timothy 1:8–11.I'll debunk these.>Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13Christians believe Old Testament law was fulfilled by the coming of Jesus and the resurrection and no longer apply.The same portion also condemns wearing of mixed fabrics, and the eating of shellfish as abominations publishable by death. These laws are no longer valid.>Romans 1:26-27Paul says those who abandon women to sleep exclusively with men are shameful. Shame is not the same thing as sin.It is not sin. I'll repeat myself, he uses the word for shame. Shame. Not sin.It also doesn't include men who still also sleep with women. Those who abandon women explicitly.Paul also proclaims Mary wasn't first to see Jesus again after the resurrection, because Paul is a chud and a misogynist who disagrees with all the other Bible authors seemingly because of his reactionary anti-female opinions.He's an unreliable source who states reactionary positions at odds with everyone else in the Bible, making him unreliable on these matters.>Corinthians 6:9–11The terms used here are malakia and arsenokoitai.Malakia means a weak person, and/or a person who masturbates. It has been mistranslated as sodomy by certain people, but that isn't what it means.Arsenokoitai refers specifically to prostitution, to male prostitutes, and not homosexuality broadly.Both of these are self evident to anyone who knows Koine Greek, but Evangelicals choose to internationally mistranslate it as "sodomy" for ideological purposes.>Bu-butt my Sodom and Gomorrah!!No sin is singled out as the cause of this destruction. It's never stated. Ever.
>>220556274>t. reddit gaytheist who thinks eastern is about mashing eggs or balls with your buddies together
>>220556274Yeah, Irinaeus and Hieronymus went to Sweden to steal Jul from those poor pagan folk.WE WUZ DA INVENTOR OF CHRISTMAS N SHIEETEmbarassing.
>>220556199>the talmud (oral torah btw) was compiled in the 5th so that means judaism was created that day >so that means OT judaism was actually same day OT as compiled and chrsitanity was created same day NT was compiled and trinity was approved in the 1st council of nicaeabrilliant logic lol. There's 0 (zero) external sources outside the gosples about the tomb of jesus or his resurrection deal with it
>>220556274WRONG, you gullible atheist idiot.https://historyforatheists.com/2016/12/the-great-myths-2-christmas-mithras-and-paganism/https://historyforatheists.com/2020/12/pagan-christmas/https://historyforatheists.com/2024/12/pagan-christmas-again/#Yule
>>220556274https://ca.thegospelcoalition.org/article/christmas-isnt-pagan/https://www.catholic.com/audio/sp/christmas-is-pagan-rebuttedhttps://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2025/12/16/myth-busting-the-supposed-pagan-roots-of-christmas/https://bigthink.com/the-past/no-christmas-not-stolen-pagan-festival/https://corechristianity.com/resources/guides/5-reasons-christmas-is-not-a-pagan-holidayhttps://www.wesleyhuff.com/blog/2022/12/24/christmas-isnt-paganhttps://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/is-christmas-a-pagan-rip-offhttps://www.str.org/w/no-christmas-is-not-paganhttps://www.catholic.com/audio/sp/does-christmas-have-pagan-origins
>>220556322I hope you don't have a Christmas tree, given they are pagan in origin.The date of Christmas was chose to be the same as the Roman pagan Saturnalia. Because Christianity is a LARP and they wanted to basically continue paganism under a different name, and have the authority of Saturnalia as opposed to simply being some messianic jewish new religious movement.In the same way many saints are just rebranded pagan deities. St Brigid is literally just 100% the celtic god Brigid and her saints day was the celtic pagan holiday of Imbolc.And also Easter comes from the Saxon pagan god Ostara. Christians arbitrarily chose to put their resurrection festival on the same date as the Germanic spring festival. Again like Christmas, probably so their Jewish messianic new religious movement could steal some authority.
>>220556403Your lies aren't working anymore. How does that make you feel
>>220556274Absolute TRVKE.The flat earthers ITT are screaming and crying rn.
>>220556284Wrong.Homosexuality is bad for you and bad for society.And yes, sexual behavior is a choice.
>>220556418You are denying historical fact to justify your LARP ideology.Why do Christians hate history and science?
>>220556438>Historical factYour fan fiction isn't fact, faggot.
>>220556284
>>220556453You believe the world is flat and 10,000 years old and that the Tanakh isn't Jewish and that Moses wasn't Jewish.
>>220556460None of these figures are legitimate. But then again you despise reality and have to cope since the Bible doesn't agree with you either.
>>220556471Do you think you can deceive me like that, you mongoloid
>>220556326Your religion postdates Christianity by centuries.That is a fact.Deal with it.>There's 0 (zero) external sources outside the gosples about the tomb of jesus or his resurrectionWhy are the Gospels not sources?And would you leave the thread if I prove you wrong?Don't dodge that last question.
>>220556494That post isn't very Christian of you.I suppose you know I'm right about the pagan origins of Christmas, Easter, the saints, and so your last resort is just insults and slurs.
>>220556514Your beliefs are preposterous. You just repeat the lies you see on TV. You are deceived.
>>220556403>>220556438Your reddit lies about Christmas have been debunked:>>220556335>>220556389
>>220556537Yeah I'll belief the flat earth young earth creationist website you linked over countless historical and archaeological evidence of the practice of Saturnalia by Romans which went on for centuries.Your religion only makes sense if you truly hate humanity, history, science, culture, society, life and blind yourself to all these things. It's so sad. 99% of Christians even aren't as retarded as you.
>>220552610Based
>>220556574Saturnalia being celebrated near the winter solstice means nothing.The fact that you think that this means that Christianity is pagan is just a reflection of how cultureless and small minded you are.
>>220556460Nice illegible source, faggot
>>220552610>All those desert shitskin religions should be banned anyways>We need forced state atheism like in China>The difference is nobody cares about Christians anymore because they aren't a threatAbsolute trvke. Christian fundementalists like in this thread belong in a psychiatric unit or prison depending how violent and abusive they are.They are nothing but a drain on humanity.
>>220556403>muh pagan EasterDebunked:https://historyforatheists.com/2017/04/easter-ishtar-eostre-and-eggs/https://historyforatheists.com/2022/04/easter-pagan/https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2025/04/15/the-pagan-myth-of-easterhttps://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/no-easter-is-not-a-pagan-holidayhttps://biblemesh.com/blog/the-myth-of-the-pagan-origins-of-easter/https://reverik.com/2020/04/13/no-easter-was-not-stolen-from-pagans/https://www.gotquestions.org/Easter-pagan-holiday.htmlhttps://thecultishshow.com/blog/debunking-easter-is-pagan-mythshttps://wedaretosay.com/is-easter-pagan-debunking-every-crazy-myth-and-lie/https://news.web.baylor.edu/news/story/2016/why-easter-was-never-anything-christian-holiday
>>220556322It's a historic fact that christian missionaries traveled throughout Europe to convert people to christianity. By means of bribes, religious taxation, killings and changing the themes of the pagan holidays and traditions to make them christian because they needed a basic foundation. There were hundreds of wars fought because of this, most of the viking era was corrupt kings receiving gold from rome and waging wars against kings who did not. You are as dishonest as any christian, kill yourself.
>>220556615When reality and your ideology are at odds, why do you choose to reject reality? Who brainwashed you?
>>220556574The atheist who wrote the first 3 articles is a "flat earth young earth creationist"?Weird.
>>220556614It is the other way around. It's dysgenic to let people like you exist. Our society was better off when Christians were burning heretics at stake, to prevent Two Tier Keir from happening.
>>220556628>Historic factIt is a fact that this term is meaningless when mongoloids such as yourself make use of it.>By means of bribes, religious taxation, killings and changing the themes of the pagan holidays and traditions to make them christian because they needed a basic foundation. All of this makes sense from the perspective of a gullible neopagan who are in need of a persecution narrative.But it doesn't hold up to history.The celebration of Christmas and Easter predates the existence of the status of Imperial Church that Christianity enjoyed after Constantine, must less so the conversion of the Germanic people.So your whole narrative collapses into dust.To say that Easter is based on a Germanic pagan goddess, basically reduces your intellectual reliability to the flat earthers you are hallucinating about.>Kill yourselfCope about it
>>220556574Atheism only makes sense if truly hate humanity, history, science, culture, society, life and blind yourself to all these things. It's so sad.You are mentally ill.Atheism is a mental illness.
>>220556615A so-called "atheist" who spends his entire time making a website and series debunking atheism and historical evidence that disagrees with Christian ideology. Sure. Only people he fools are total idiots like you.
>>220556492>None of these figures are legitimate.Wrong.
>>220556687There are letters proving that they used this tactic. We already had all these holidays. I don't know how this does not go through your head.
>>220556284https://lanternproject.org.uk/library/general/articles-and-information-about-sexual-abuse-and-its-impact/homosexuality-and-child-sexual-abuse/>In other words, although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses.>Similarly, the Archives of Sexual Behavior also noted that homosexual pedophiles are significantly overrepresented in child sex offence cases
>>220556690Meds
>>220556726There is nothing wrong with violence.>>220556734>There are letters proving that they used this tacticThen show me those letters.>>220556715>A so-called "atheist" who spends his entire time making a website and series debunking atheism and historical evidence that disagrees with Christian ideologyI looked at one of the articles and it seems like that the author was just a person rooted in objective reality, and not a rabid anti christian moron such as yourself. No one is fooled except you.
>>220553398Is there even a christian region on 4chan? int is reddit atheism, x is retard gnosticism, and pol has chud paganism.
>>220556284https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1556756/>The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study>the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1>This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually.
>>220556781This guy needs to get laid with a twink
>>220556641>You should DIEHow Christian of you.I take it your family isn't from the East? No way such a psychotic fundamentalist ideology would've survived the de-brainwashing and brilliant education of communist, materialist, science.You would be much better, less evil and insane, had your parents lived in the DDR.
>>220556611Get some glasses, you literal retard.
>>220552581nuns as far as i know don't exist here and priests look different and aren't confused for anything else
>>220556734>I don't know how this does not go through your head.It's just a sign that I'm more intelligent than you.You see that Romans celebrate a holiday near winter solstice. You see that Christians celebrate a holiday near winter solstice. What do you assume? One stole from the other. How braindead is that? When I see people pull this kind of shit, I'm immediately reminded how ignorant less intellectually gifted people are.You don't ask yourself: Why do they celebrate on these days? What do they wish to symbolise. You just come up with some asinine accusation and LARP. And for this reason, I'm glad neopaganism isn't catching on. We already have enough idiocracy with liberal democracy. We don't need more of it. There is a reason why Church had clerus, latin, and forbade translations, to gatekeep people like yourself.
>>220556614We've already shown multiple times ITT that it's atheists who are mentally ill and kill themselves at absurd rates.
>>220556804I accept your concession that the Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality.
>>220556819
>>220556843Your God-Emperor is dropping missiles of little school girls right now because he believes he's in a holy war to bring about the Apocalypse. Honestly people like you cannot be helped. You should just be killed. Worked to death in some Alaskan gulag.
>>220556860It would've been better if the Soviets had executed your entire Nazi family.
>>220556781>3 decades old study cited by whopping 22 times yet spammed thousands of times in twitterlmao
>>220556819my parents were born in the soviet union, just so you knowmaterialism for faggots, science is for faggots, communism is for faggotsatheists are morons. you dont live in reality, you live in front of the television and think some jewish pedo comedians are so enlightening when they mock actual cultured proper people
>>220556819>de-brainwashing and brilliant education of communist, materialist, science.LOL! The atheist was a murderous commie rat all along! Go figure!Communism is a plague on mankind.The only good communist is a dead one.
>>220556901the nazis didn't kill enough bolshevist scum on the eastern fronthitlers big mistake was his anglophilia. britain should have simply been bombed to shit, and colonised with german folk, like the british propagandists feared
>>220556824Most of those "sources" are a few mushy pixels, you arrogant imbecil. You obviously don't proofread your spamfolder, cockwaffle. Ask your boyfriend to do that if your lazy ass can't manage to do it.
The American really loves these infographics
>>220554143>aye caramba dem jewish stories were actually written by goys o algo asido you niggers actually believe this shit?
>>220556961like anyone with a brain yes
>>220556911>I hate science!!!!>You're the one who doesn't live in reality!!!The irony.How did your family escape the purges? Or are they not all as psychiatrically deranged as you?You are the stone age anti-human barbarism the communists warned of. Go die for Israel to bring about your apocalypse already.
>>220556819>Before the Wall's erection, 3.5 million East Germans circumvented Eastern Bloc emigration restrictions and defected from the GDR, many by crossing over the border from East Berlin into West Berlin; from there they could then travel to West Germany and to other Western European countries. Between 1961 and 1989, the Wall prevented almost all such emigration.
>>220556919Commies need to die. But democracy is the greater danger.We need to bomb mount rushmore like the Taliban.
>>220556839No It's a sign that you are ideologically bound to an alternative version of christianity, similar to christian sects. You cherry pick historic facts and when something leans to the favor of paganism you ignore them because your brain is wired like a radical teenagers.
>>220556985Go die for Israel and the Epstein class you flat earther golem.
>>220552581Imbecilic 10 IQ comparisonNobody is forced to become a priest or a nun
>>220556819Communism is such a failed, retarded ideology that every state controlled by Communists has to imprison its own citizens inside their shitty "utopia".Living under Communism is like living in the Matrix. To maintain the hoax, Communists must stop you from escaping the simulation. They must prevent you from discovering that there are better alternatives than the shitty system they impose on their citizens. That's why Communist states had to imprison their own citizens, forcibly preventing them from communicating with the outside world and moving abroad.Communism is literally a prison society.
>>220556976>Go die for Israel to bring about your apocalypse already.Bro, you believe in histrionical materialism and accuse others of being apocalyptic.Nothing Marx said came true.Communism is dead, and will stay deadYou live in a mental cage.
>>220556906>atheist can't even formulate a coherent rebuttalkek, you're fuming aren't you
>>220556998No It's a sign that you are ideologically bound to an alternative version of paganism, similar to pagan sects. You cherry pick historic facts and when something leans to the favor of christianity you ignore them because your brain is wired like a radical teenagers.
>>220556919>Muh black book of communismFan fiction by CIA neo-nazis who proclaimed hypothetical child and grandchild of dead Nazis that was never conceived was a victim of communism, and proclaimed every victim of natural disasters during the cold war was a victim of communism.Meanwhile capitalism is in fact causing ww3 right now and kills millions every year through poverty, lack of healthcare, famine, etc.Keep sucking billionaire cock and worshipping sky fairies. Schizo.
>the atheist who's been arguing for hours is literally a gay commie:|
>>220556766/his/?
>>220557064Yep, these are our enemiesAnd the pagantards friends.It will be so easy to overcome democracy
>>220556959Try wiping your putrid grease stains off your screen, you stupid fuckface.
>>220557056>Meanwhile capitalism is in fact causing ww3 right now and kills millions every year through poverty, lack of healthcare, famine, etc.Capitalism is just your version of Satan. Except that Capitalism actually doesn't exist. It's just in your head. What's causing poverty right now is materialism. The religion you subscribe to.
>>220557033The science of dialectical materialism is directly observable. You owe your life to it and to the rights won by communism. It's only because people like you worship the Epsteinites and are class traitors that we will remain enslaved by the bourgeoisie, but then you love hitlerian barbarism and despise humanity don't you?
>>220557112So your hatred of christians is just a projection of your own religiosity.Thank God that I believe in a more sane religion than Marxism
>>220557056>denialismKEK you're literally a retarded gay commie, no wonder you're a stupid atheist.
>>220557104>Capitalism actually doesn't existWow! They abolished the commodity form, by stopping the production of commodities for exchange value, and stopping the extraction of surplus value generated by the bourgeoisie? Why did nobody tell me???In Marxism - unlike your fascist-christian fundementalism - words have meanings.
>>220557081Are you brown?
>>220557112>It's only because people like you worship the EpsteinitesI like how when it's pagantards I supposedly worship Jews and when it's commie cucks it's supposedly EpsteinYou can see through this commonality, that this is an entirely emotional argument that has nothing to do with reality>class traitors that we will remain enslaved by the bourgeoisieMarxists would be the biggest class traitors in the world if they actually had anyone of the ploretariat in their ranks. Christianity treated the ploretariat better than Communism too.This is why you psycho want me in "psychaitry". Cause I'm actually on the side of the people, and not your materialist lies.>but then you love hitlerian barbarism and despise humanity don't you?Oh I love humanity. I just hate lies. What is a lie? Democracy is a lie. Communism is a lie. And so forth.
>>220556819>>220557056>In December 1978, eighteen of the local farmers, led by Yen Jingchang,[5] met in the largest house in the village. They agreed to break the law at the time by signing a secret agreement to divide the land, a local People's Commune, into family plots. Each plot was to be worked by an individual family who would turn over some of what they grew to the government and the collective whilst at the same time agreeing that they could keep the surplus for themselves. The villagers also agreed that should one of them be caught and sentenced to death that the other villagers would raise their children until they were eighteen years old.[5][6] At the time, the villagers were worried that another famine might strike the village after a particularly bad harvest and more people might die of hunger.[6]>After this secret capitalist reform, Xiaogang village produced a harvest that was larger than the previous five years combined.[5] Per capita income in the village increase from 22 yuan to 400 yuan with grain output increasing to 90,000 kg in 1979.[6] This attracted significant attention from surrounding villages and before long the government in Beijing had found out. The villagers were fortunate in that at the time China had just changed leadership after Mao Zedong had died. The new leadership under Deng Xiaoping was looking for ways to reform China's economy and the discovery of Xiaogang's innovation was held up as a model to other villages across the country. This led to the abandonment of collectivised farming across China and a large increase in agricultural production. The secret signing of the contract in Xiaogang is widely regarded as the beginning of the period of rapid economic growth and industrialisation that mainland China has experienced in the thirty years since.
>>220557190Marxism is just a divide and conquer tool used by the bourgeoise you hate. The bourgeoise funded the Soviet Union, through lend lease, to prevent an actual solution, like Adolf Hitler, from arising.
>>220557197China isn't communist, as you just pointed out for me. Thank you. Deng Xiaoping was capitalism's strongest soldier.
>>220556819>>220557056Communism:>The Great Leap Forward (Second Five Year Plan) of the People's Republic of China (PRC) was an economic and social campaign led by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) from 1958 to 1962. CCP Chairman Mao Zedong launched the campaign to reconstruct the country from an agrarian economy into a communist society through the formation of people's communes.>Millions of people died in China during the Great Leap, with estimates ranging from 15 to 55 million, making the Great Chinese Famine the largest famine in human history.After communism:>The Communist Party authorities carried out the market reforms in two stages. The first stage, in the late 1970s and early 1980s, involved the de-collectivization of agriculture, the opening up of the country to foreign investment, and permission for entrepreneurs to start businesses. However, a large percentage of industries remained state-owned. The second stage of reform, in the late 1980s and 1990s, involved the privatization and contracting out of much state-owned industry. The 1985 lifting of price controls[7] was a major reform, and protectionist policies and regulations soon followed, although state monopolies in sectors such as banking and petroleum remained. In 2001, China joined the World Trade Organization (WTO). The private sector grew remarkably, accounting for as much as 70 percent of China's gross domestic product by 2005.[8] From 1978 until 2013, unprecedented growth occurred, with the economy increasing by 9.5% a year.
>>220557193I have swaggers, for sure. If that makes you think I'm brown, then we are deep in peril. I'm brown for talking like a man!
>>220557235China transformed from Bolshevism to National Socialism because the Chinese leadership understood that there is nothing “scientific” (not that science fucking matters) about Historical Materialism.
>>220557227>an actual solution>like Adolf HitlerAnd there we have it! The Christian fundementalist is also a Nazi! Isn't that a crime in your country? As it should be everywhere.In fact it's obvious for everyone to see, the elites scapegoat minorities and focus on culture war bullshit to prevent people from focusing on class issues.You are just another puppet of the billionaire zionazi class.
>>220552581The pope and a nun casually walking in the street ? Never.
>>220556819>>220557056>The first recorded incidence of private farming in post-Mao China occurred in Pengxi county of Sichuan province, in a village called “Nine Dragon Hill.” This village was one of the poorest in Qunli Commune, widely known in the region as a “village of beggars.” One evening in September 1976, Deng Tianyuan, the Party secretary of the commune, summoned a small group of cadres to discuss the problem of agricultural production. After a long and heated debate, they agreed to try private farming as a solution to the managerial and incentive problems that had dogged collective farming. Aware of the political risk, they decided to allocate only marginal land to households in two production teams, while keeping collective farming intact elsewhere. That year, the output of the marginal but privately cultivated land was three times higher than that of the collectively cultivated fertile land. The next year, more land was privatized in more production teams. By 1978, before the Third Plenum was held in Beijing, private farming was practiced across the whole commune, but was kept secret from the local authorities. In 1979, at a meeting organized by the county government to discuss improvements in agriculture, Deng Tienyuan disclosed the secret of Nine Dragon Hill’s success and won the endorsement of the county Party secretary. The following year, a delegation from the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry visited Nine Dragon Hill. While he criticized private farming in principle, the head of the delegation praised Deng Tianyuan for improving agricultural production and even proposed considering the village as an experimental site for private farming. (Coase and Wang, pp. 46-47).>Two years later in another village, also poor, privatization was secretly agreed on by eighteen peasants. It was sufficiently successful so that, as word of what they were doing spread, nearby villages joined in.
>>220552581>another cleric vs secular dress code phallacyyawn
>>220556284>I'll debunk theseA holistic reading of the bible condemns homosexuality, it's how the earliest of exegetes interpreted the texts, which includes Augustine and Thomas Aquinas.Especially if it was not divinely inspired (which seems to be your position), it would reflect the attitudes of the people of that era, just like benign patriarchy and slavery; inherited beliefs from greco-romans and second-temple judes.Otherwise you're doing textual acrobatics to back-project modern philosophical liberalist values onto biblical texts, which is a misguided approach to infer the intended meaning.You could take a more rationalist approach, and argue the rationale behind certain prohibitions no longer applies, but to say the bible says nothing of gay sex is..
>>220556634It's because he knows, in his heart, that God isn't real.
>>220557377You are are the early Maoist system of collectivisation isn't the only method of agriculture within a communist society?Do you believe there were no difficulties in the transition from feudalism to industrialisation either?
>>220557417*you're aware I meant
>>220557112>The science of dialectical materialism
>>220554182Damn black protestants are real trad and will save Christianity
>>220557461Das rite crakkka
>>220557410God is real.Your lies have been debunked.
REAL communism has never been tried, except in the Nordic countries, where it has resulted in a kind of Star Trek themed post-scarcity techno-utopia.
>>220557518>Nordic countries>communistRetard
>>220557565If Nordic welfare policies aren't communist, then why don't you try adopting them?
>>220557599>riding your bike LE BADwhy are we like this
>both atheists are homosexual communists from leftypolnotice the patternprobably in the trooncord, too
>>220557102Ask your boyfriend to proofread your spamfolder, Cletus.
>>220557599Non sequitur.Why are atheists so bad at logic?Answer: >>220554858.
>>220557493Aww, he really, REALLY tries to deny the truth he already knows in his heart. God is dead and we killed him.
>>220557645>>220557102
>>220557443Dialectical materialism follows the scientific method of investigation and evaluating evidence against theory.Flat Earther Christian fundementalism is a psychiatric disorder.
>>220557692Aww, did your boyfriend already left you? Aww. Makes sense you're so obsessed over statistics, then. You became one.
>>220557672Why do you keep pointing to your embarrassing shitpost? You have a humiliation fetish as well?
>>220557681Your lies got debunked, retard.Atheists lie every time, but the truth comes out.>God is deadSo you're not an atheist? Lol.>and we killed him.That doesn't make any sense.
>>220557701>>Dialectical materialism follows the scientific method No it doesn't. It's pseudoscience.>Christian fundementalism is a psychiatric disorder.Atheism and communism are mental disorders.Your ideology is dead, after killing tens of millions. You are a failure.
>>220557753What lies? You know God doesn't exist. >b-but how can you kill him then??!?American education, everyone.
>>220557722Strange post.You're the homosexual aren't you?>stats are badWrong.Hey leftypol freak, did you chop off your balls yet to fight fascism?
>>220557791I know God exists and so do you.You just want to stuff things up your butt because you're a mentally-ill pervert.
>>220557791>What lies?Your lies about Christmas and Easter being pagan, you gaytheist commie retard.
>>220557817>no u!Another self-hating gay cope. If you accepted yourself as you are, you wouldn't be so full of vitrol.
>>220552581I think people should be able to wear whatever religious clothes they want as long as those clothes don't feature offensive phrases or images on them (e.g. "fuck Hindus" or something like that).Although you could argue that face coverings should not be allowed in some cases. I have no problem if Muslim women want to cover up their hair and their bodies, but face coverings (of all kinds, including motorbike helmets) maybe shouldn't be allowed in some places. If someone were to commit a crime, you'd want their face to be visible to security cameras, so they can be caught.
>>220557194Why does it upset you so much when someone points out that you worship jewish mythology? Just quit being a christian and you won't have to do these mental gymnastics. You can have ethics and morals without believing in a jewish god you know
>>220557836N-uh. I definitely said you don't believe in God first, so that's how it is. Thems them rules. You can quite this larp now, since nobody believes in a god anymore.
>>220557410Correct
>Also prefiguring the man was a trait that Marx developed early in his youth and never relinquished: a shameless sponging on friends and relatives. Already in early 1837, Heinrich Marx, castigating his son Karl's wanton spending of the money of others, wrote to him that "on one point … you have wisely found fit to observe an aristocratic silence; I am referring to the paltry matter of money." Indeed, Marx took money from any source available: his father, mother, and throughout his adult life, his long-suffering friend and abject disciple, Friedrich Engels, all of whom fueled Marx's capacity for spending money like water.>An insatiable spender of other people's money, Marx continually complained about a shortage of financial means. While sponging on Engels, Marx perpetually complained to his friend that his largess was never enough. Thus, in 1868, Marx insisted that he could not make do on an annual income of less than £400-£500, a phenomenal sum considering that the upper tenth of Englishmen in that period were earning an average income of only £72 a year. Indeed, so profligate was Marx that he quickly ran through an inheritance from a German follower of £824 in 1864, as well as a gift of £350 from Engels in the same year.>As in the case of many other spongers and cadgers throughout history, Karl Marx affected a hatred and contempt for the very material resource he was so anxious to cadge and use so recklessly. The difference is that Marx created an entire philosophy around his own corrupt attitudes toward money. Man, he thundered, was in the grip of the "fetishism" of money.Karl Marx was an insatiable, lazy parasite and total loser, just like his followers.No wonder they idolize him, since they see themselves in him.
>>220557892It's correct that God exists and you're a literal gay commie faggot.
>>220557907Man, you're really obsessed over Marx. Did you quote him often with your boyfriend when you were still together? Since we know you don't believe in god and you can only say that so many times.
>>220557881Why does it upset you when someone points out that God is real, Jesus rose from the dead, and Christianity is true?Just stop being a gaytheist retard and you won't have to lie all the time.Are you also a leftypol commie freak from the discord?
>>220557922All I'm talking about is God and for some reason you can't stop thinking about gay shit. Maybe there's something you need to admit to yourself
>>220557886>atheist "logic"We need to bring back mental asylums and lock atheists up in them, where they belong.
>>220557940Why are you using your homosexuality as an insult?Are you acknowledging that homosexuality is disordered and repulsive?
>>220557950Your religious beliefs originate from shitskins in the middle east. I choose not to participate in such nonsense as it historically and still to this day divides people. Catholic here, protestant there. No need for it.So why do you choose to believe in this specific religion and not others?
>>220557952You and your e-boyfriend with the Finnish flag are gay commies from leftypol.
>he's an atheist because… he's a homosexual communistAdded to my pattern-recognition dataset
>>220558024I adhere and submit to the truth, no matter where it comes from.Christianity is true.Therefore, I adhere and submit to it.Shrimple as.
>>220558113Can i get a real answer? Because what you just said is meaningless word salad
>>220558221Back at you.
>>220558244You're avoiding the questions. Why do you choose to worship this jewish religion?
>>220558304I already told you: Because it's true.
>>220557998You can deny the truth all you want. Deep inside you know god is just made-up fictionl.
>>220558325You're really trying to reassure yourself, aren't you?I can see my refutation of your lies has planted a seed :)
>>220558018I call you homosexual because 100% of gay-obsessed hatepreachers will get caught with their pants down with a ladyboy at one point of their career. It's not an insult, it's an observation.
>>220558361Sure, homo.Unfortunately for you, I have the statistics on my side.
>>220558344Awful lot of projection there, Cletus. Only seed you've planted is the semen in your boyfriend's bunghole. Your ridiculous lies are just a further proof of the weakness of your pretended position. If truth were on your side, you didn't need to lie.
>>220557940You and your e-boyfriend are Marxists.
>>220558374You are statistic, Cletus. Soon to be suicide one, probably.And no. Nobody read your drivel, since it's obvious nonesense from the first line. Your ilk can't even fabricate statistics convincingly.
>>220558324Still a non-answer. You just want to be vague to avoid answering to question you don't actually know how to answer properly. You just sound like an insane person. "dude its the truth it was real in my mind"
>>220558415>NO UNu-uh. Once again I said it first. And since you're the one with genuine obsession over homosexuals, it is pretty probable you are one.
>>220558420No, I'm not an atheist freak.Even your fellow atheist freaks admit it.
>>220558431I directly answered your question.You sound insane and/or stupid, but that's unsurprising because you're an atheist.
>>220558440Mentally-ill atheist retard.
>>220558502Answering you are christian because you like truth is a non-answer. Also considering your previous posts of infographs containing bunch of nonsense association studies, you don't seem to care that much about the truth.
>>220558527Adults don't need imaginary friends.>>220558724That's how they usually are. Preach about "le TRUTH", but run from the mere mention of deconstruction. Truth doesn't fear investigation.
>>220558724No, I said I follow Christianity because it's true.You really struggle with reading comprehension. Do you have a mental handicap? Genuinely asking.>infographs containing bunch of nonsense association studiesYou're mad at the truth.Not my problem.
>>220558782Adults accept God.You're stuck at an adolescent stage.Atheists literally have daddy issues. Look it up.
>>220558782I haven't run away from anything.I answered your boyfriend's questions directly.You're the one running away from truth, because you have deep-seated daddy issues.
>>220558857>more projectionYour idealized state is that of a literal child.
>>220558806You said you adhere and submit to the truth and that's why you are christian. A non-answer. You're just talking around the question and now projecting your ameriburger childhood.So why is christianity the only "truth"?
Didn't read a single post itt
>>220558870Go ahead then. Deconstruct your faith. Look up on critical scholars and what they have to say on your dogma. Really ask WHY do you believe.
>>220558915>In his 1999 book Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism, psychologist Paul Vitz proposes another likely effect of the loss of the father on children: a distance from and doubt of God, which leads in many cases to profound atheism.>Taking up the insight that a child’s “psychological representation of his father is intimately connected to his understanding of God,” Vitz proposes to test a “defective father” hypothesis, in which an “atheist’s disappointment in and resentment of his own father unconsciously justifies his rejection of God” (p. 16). His method is a historical survey of the biographies of prominent atheists and theists, particularly major figures in the development of modern atheism and their interlocutors on the side of faith.>In the column of founders and major proponents of modern atheism, Vitz addresses nineteen cases, from Voltaire, Thomas Hobbes, and David Hume, to Nietzsche, Bertrand Russell, Jean-Paul Sartre, Joseph Stalin, and Sigmund Freud himself. In each case, the “defective father” hypothesis holds to some degree. Each of these men experienced a rift in his relationship with his father: whether the early death of his father, or abuse, neglect or abandonment at his hands, or an unattractive weakness or overbearing character in his father, which led to a personal break and rejection of the father’s values. In a few cases, these men themselves draw a parallel between the absence of their fathers and the absence of God.
>>220558927Yawn.
>>220558950>le fatherwoundlmao, that old chestnut.There is a reason why that drivel has no place in actual psychology and is only borught up by apologetics.
>>220558934Go ahead then. Deconstruct your atheism. Look up on Christian scholars and what they have to say on your dogma. Really ask WHY do you reject the truth.
>>220558975The actual question would be "WHY is 2+2 4?", tho. As usual you can only misguide, delfect and project.
>>220558975Explain to me why christianity specifically is the religion you chose.
>>220558993>"I'm seething"Concession accepted.Sorry about your relationship with your father.
>>220559032Because it's true.>>220559020Because Jesus rose from the dead.See, swede? Even your finnish gaytheist retard boyfriend managed to figure out the correct follow-up question, after the upteenth time.
>>220558999There is no atheism or atheist dogma to deconstruct, tho. To do what you ask one would need to read on EVERY faith, no matter how minor. Another failed attempt at deflection, because the concept of deconstruction is an abomination to you.
>>220559035You're mixing up laughing and seething, lil' guy. The fact is your ilk idolizes infant faith that obeys dogma over evidence.
>>220559070>There is no atheism or atheist dogma to deconstruct, tho.Yes there is. As evinced by all the lies you ingested from reddit/hollywood and spewed over this thread, which I debunked.Your atheist worldview is built on media indoctrination of falsehoods: a pile of garbage.
>>220559058So explain why it's true then
>>220559058>Because Jesus rose from the dead.Non sequitur. If you believe tales of old, rising from death was rather common and happened for all kinds of reasons. You can't draw any conclusion from one such event over that "it happened" (it didn't, but I can entertrain the thought experiment)Didn't you try to preach on logic earlier, hmm?
>>220559108Calm down, lil guy. Only thing all atheists do is say "I don't believe in gods". Not really a dogma.
>>220559090Where's your rebuttal?What you posted is not an argument:>lmao, that old chestnut.>There is a reason why that drivel has no place in actual psychology and is only borught up by apologetics.Zero substantiation.Zero rebuttal.This is called seething, not an argument.This is why we need to bring back the logic classes that atheists took out of the school curriculum to dumb people down.
>>220559113Already did: >>220553398
>>220559197Where's your proof?
>>220559117You don't know what a non sequitur is.Amusing.Bring back logic.
>>220559134Wrong. There's a lot more to your worldview.Including a lot of lies and garbage, some of which I've refuted in this very thread.
>>220559212>Jesus rose from the Dead>therefore 2+2=4Textbook non sequitur.
>tfw teaching two gaytheists from nordic countries basic logic on /int/Pretty funny, ngl.
>>220559261You forgot to answer >>220559211
>>220559243There's lot more to my world view, but they are not inherent to atheism since there is no atheist world view.. And unlike you, I'm humble enough to correct my beliefs as new evidence comes up, since I don't want to believe in lies and no belief is sacred. But you can't challenge your core beliefs, so the reality must be wrong.
>>220559251Are you trolling me with your atrocious reading comprehension?Brains turned into mush by tiktok/reddit atheism. A real tragedy.
>>220559288Read the post you replied to.
>>220559323That is your claim in >>220559058 since it's a reply to >>220559020You CAN read, can't you? CAN'T YOU?
>>220557836This is an interesting stance for a Christian to take. If we look at the Book of John, chapter 3, we find lines like>16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.>17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.>18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.If it's literally impossible for a human being NOT to believe in God, that means that literally no one can ever be condemned. Doesn't matter what sins you wilfully commit, what blasphemies you utter, you are already saved by default, because by some cosmic technicality you still believe.Is that why you seem so upset? I guess this life is your last chance to act smug. After death, you'll find every atheist who ever lived waiting for you in Paradise, sustained in perfect bliss by a God whose existence they still refuse to acknowledge.
>>220559304Yes, there is.https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/>In philosophy, however, and more specifically in the philosophy of religion, the term “atheism” is standardly used to refer to the proposition that God does not exist (or, more broadly, to the proposition that there are no gods). Thus, to be an atheist on this definition, it does not suffice to suspend judgment on whether there is a God, even though that implies a lack of theistic belief. Instead, one must deny that God exists. This metaphysical sense of the word is preferred over other senses, including the psychological sense, not just by theistic philosophers, but by many (though not all) atheists in philosophy as well. For example, Robin Le Poidevin writes, “An atheist is one who denies the existence of a personal, transcendent creator of the universe, rather than one who simply lives his life without reference to such a being” (1996: xvii). J. L. Schellenberg says that “in philosophy, the atheist is not just someone who doesn’t accept theism, but more strongly someone who opposes it.” In other words, it is “the denial of theism, the claim that there is no God” (2019: 5).>This definition is also found in multiple encyclopedias and dictionaries of philosophy. For example, in the Concise Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy, William L. Rowe (also an atheist) writes, “Atheism is the position that affirms the nonexistence of God. It proposes positive disbelief rather than mere suspension of belief” (2000: 62). The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy recognizes multiple senses of the word “atheism”, but is clear about which is standard in philosophy:>[Atheism is] the view that there are no gods. A widely used sense denotes merely not believing in god and is consistent with agnosticism [in the psychological sense]. A stricter sense denotes a belief that there is no god; this use has become standard. (Pojman 2015, emphasis added)
>>220559337Yes no proof anywhere.
>>220559342>>220559197
>>220559407Yawn.
>>220559337But that post is a lie. Critical scholars generally don't accept the empty tomb narraitve. All we "know" is that there was a preacher named Jesus that was crucified by romans. Peter and James continued his mission and later Paul started to preach to the gentiles. Later the three were excecuted for political reasons and decades later people started to collect the various tales into books that were then copied and spread around. That is pretty much it.
>>220559427I accept your concession. I would be embarrassed as well if I got caught red handed like that after bragging about my skills in logic.
>>220559404Your source doesn't make the claim.
>>220559453You can yawn all you want but you have no proof for anything, that is why it's called religious beliefs. Yet you say you are christian because you adhere and submit to the truth, but how can you know it's the truth when it's pure beliefs. You are a hypocrite, you don't care about the truth the slightest. The only thing you care about is your christianity, your version of it and what people think of you. A selfish, retarded christian that worships a jewish mythology.
>>220552610i follow the ROMAN Catholic Church THOUGH
>>220559489>But that post is a lie.No, you're lying. The post is correct.>Critical scholars generally don't accept the empty tomb narraitve.No, you're lying again. They do.The enemies of early Christianity (such as the Roman and Jewish authorities) admitted the tomb was empty by accusing Christians of stealing the body.That's called enemy attestation.Please stop embarrassing yourself.>All we "know" is thatFalse. Please stop embarrassing yourself.>decades later people started to collect the various tales into booksFalse. The Corinthian creed is dated by historians to very shortly after the resurrection.https://youtube.com/watch?v=qZ19K_W0qA4
>>220558950Why do you think that is?
>>220559513Cute. Peak atheist performance.
>>220559535Yes it does.By the way, while you're at it, do me a favor and tell your gay atheist boyfriend to use the correct definition.
>>220559590Yawn.You really are an atheist exemplar.
>>220559741I'm not an atheist. Not sure why you keep calling me that. I have beliefs but at least i know they are religious beliefs and i don't believe in them because of some weird shit like adhering and submitting to truth.Please prove something, since you love the truth so god damn much you submit and adhere to it
>>220559590>spergout>zero rebuttalThere it is, ladies and gentlemen.
>>220559851I'm still waiting for proof.
>>220552581In Christianity only the clergy wears clothes like this. In Islam everyone does.
>>220559831>I have beliefs but at least i know they are religious beliefs and i don't believe in them because of some weird shit like adhering and submitting to truth.You have a completely fucked up handle of what terms like "belief" and "religious" mean.First, you'll have to unlearn all that garbage you currently have in your head.Advice: Stop getting your philosophy education from reddit or whatever shithole you're getting it from.
>>220559866>>220553398
>>220559967I haven't educated myself on philosophy at all, I'm asking questions which you can't answer. >>220559993It's not proof. Do you know what proof entails and the difference between evidence and proof?
>>220560040>I'm asking questions which you can't answer.You're a liar. I already answered your question.>it's not proofWhy not? Substantiate your claim.
>400+ replieswoah
>>220560075You don't know what proof is. You lost the debate.
>>220560099Answer the question.
>>220552610>>220555094>>220556575>>220556614Cringy twats
>umm you are gae actuallyStunned by finnish facts and logic me
>>220560139There is no proof for hell, jesus, heaven, god. It's a bunch of old books that have been translated several times, people have added things, removed things. There is some circumstantial evidence that supports that jesus lived but no proof. So please skip this talk about adhering and submitting to truth, you are not above everyone else and its time to get off your high horse.
>>220560574The proof for the resurrection is right there.>translated several timesIrrelevant.You really haven't the faintest clue how any of this history stuff works, do you?
>>220559621But they don't. If you had read them, you'd know. Even Gary Habermas doesn't make this claim anymore, since critical scholars say otherwise.>very shortlyYears at the very minimum. More than enough time for tales to cover facts under them.
>>220560452Why does Grindr crash every time a republican party holds a convention in the area?We know.
>>220560692Once again you confuse proof with evidence, and the evidence for jesus resurrection is very lacking. hell existing is also very lacking with evidence. Wheres your proof for hell? Right, you don't have one. Then why are you christian then if you don't adhere and submit to truth?
>>220560796But they do. You're just lying to save face.Enemy attestation.Look it up, and avoid future embarrassment.>Years at the very minimum.You're lying again.>More than enough time for tales to cover facts under them.You're lying again.The gaytheist is hoping he can sneak in a lie last before the thread archives.
>>220560840The resurrection entails Christianity.Christianity entails hell, which Jesus talked about.Your comment about translations proves that you're out of your depth.
>>220560908It entails because it says so? That is no proof. Once again you are a very mentally ill person
>>220560873Why would I lie? Look it up. Gary Habermas, the guy that has studied this shit more than anyone, doesn't make the claim that the Empty Tomb narrative is accepted by all scholars anymore. >B-B-BUT U LIE!Yadda yadda. You're just too scared to engage, so you act like the ostrich in >>220559453Your every post is a projection, Cletus.
>>220560950>It entails because it says so? You can't even type an intelligible query anymore.
>>220560908That's not true, tho. Even if resurrection happened, that wouldn't prove Christianity. Only that resurrection happened. There are plethora of other explanations that could explain that, such as playful trickster god doing it as a joke.
>>220560958You're lying.No, repeating your lie in the hope I don't get a chance to respond to it doesn't make it true.
>>220561011LookitupYou won't. Because you're scared. Like a little girl, hugging his bible-shaped teddy bear.
this thread feels like 2010good times man
>>220561010Yes, it is true.>Even if resurrection happened, that wouldn't prove Christianity.Yes it does.>Only that resurrection happened. There are plethora of other explanations that could explain that, such as playful trickster god doing it as a joke.And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where we've dragged the (former) gaytheist to.
>>220560967Let's start over. Where is proof of hell?
>>220561035Youarelying.Youarealiar.
>>220561095>>220560908
Make a new thread american
>>220561048a trickster god conjured all the evidence we have of history
>>220561120That is no proof. I'll keep asking for proof until you admit that you being christian as nothing to do with adhering and submitting to truth
>>220561146o algo
>>220561169Which entailment do you claim is implausible?
>>220561100>nananana I CAN'T HEAR YOUThe Truth doesn't fear investigation. But you do.
>>220561199I would love some proof, I will convert to christianity immediately and start worshiping my jewish god if you prove to me hell is real. Its your duty now to prove it.
and that's a major L for the gaytheist commie troon squadGG
>>220561048Nice deflection, Cletus. Can't help but notice you didn't actually engage with the claim. You're slave to Loki lol
>>220561264You keep avoiding questions and push back with religious nonsense and clichés. You lost.
>>220560958>Why would I lie? because you're a gaytheist
>>220561289The pigeon chess move. Shit on the gameboard, topple all the pieces and the brag how you won. The old theist classic.
>>220561278Which is more plausible, conditioned on Jesus rising from the dead as he predicted?Jesus was who he said he was.Jesus wasn't who he said he was.I know you're dishonest to the core and won't answer honestly, but I still want to lay it out for others to see.
>>220561293Non sequitur, you gay-obsessed Cletus the Totally-not-gay-gais-look-the-balls-aren't-touching
>>220561263Answer the question.
>>220561348They're equally plausible. Jesus also never claimed to be God and even if he did, he could have just lied while Loki were pulling the strings.ANOTHER PAGAN VICTORY
>>220561249>The Truth doesn't fear investigation.Correct.That's why you feel compelled to lie.
>>220561386That's why you feel compelled to parrot same old lines from apologetic sources and not check the matters yourself.If Truth is on your side, why lie?
>>220561376>I'm a liar.There it is.>Jesus also never claimed to be God Another lie from the atheist liar.John 10:30
>>220561431I'm not a liar tho.>Gospel of JohnLate, LATE fanfiction.
>>220561430I didn't. You lied.
>>220561462Yes, you are.>attempting a last-minute goalpost-moveTypical slimy atheist.https://www.gotquestions.org/is-Jesus-God.html
>>220561431>John 10:30>I and the Father are oneDidn't even say he is God. That's centuries later fanfiction of fanfiction that formed into the Nicean Creed.
>>220561471Most of your posts itt contain one or more lies. You liar of liars. Snake in the garden. Forked tongue satan.
last post I win god isn't real
>>220561496Yes he did: >>220561492
>>220561509You atheist freaks really are shameless with your brazen lying, huh.
for real this time fuck schizos
