Why aren't you learning Kazakh?>no gender>extremely regular grammar>SOV word order >rich vocabulary consisting of native Turkic vocabulary, as well as Persian and Russian loanwords>vowel harmony>can be written in either latin or cyrillic>over 16 million speakers
the only valid application would be speaking kazakh to the minority population in NYC. why not learn Russian (or a slavic language that uses cyrillic) though?
Because we need a visa
>>220620410because I am...not worthy...
>>220620410Useless language
>>220620410>Why aren't you learning Kazakh?Why should I?
>>220620410I don't like the way Turkic langs sound.
>>220620639you are
>>220620410Because I have no real interest in going to Kazakhstan, I have no Kazakh friends or family I need to talk to, and there are no Kazakh novels I have a burning desire to read or films that I would really like to watch in the original.
>>220620802I am offended
>>220620802name 5 useful languages
>>220625215nahuatl, k'iche maya, kikongo, swahili, and abun
>>220620410because i don't have a youtube channel to upload videos of me going to a kazakh restaurant and ordering horse and rice or whatever kazakhs eat in pitch perfect kazakh and shocking all of the workers
>>220620410The motivations of the internet language enthusiast: >laziness>cutting corners >it's heckin diverse and a bridge to this other thing instead of a thing of its own accord>pedantic scholarly gibberish that nobody knows about or cares about but makes him look smart for reddit >you can write it in a heckin alphabet (???) (no shit?) >there are n speakers, think of the opportunities for heckin networking!The demotivations for internet language enthusiast:>>220620802>it's useless >I can't make immediate financial or social profit out of it therefore it's useless >work eat goyslop return home stare at dopamine box repeat
>>220620410Useless language except some rural places in Kazakhstan, more civilized kazakhs speak russian anyway
>>220620410I've seen this book before
>>220620410I had to learn it in school and remember none of it. It’s fucking useless unless you live in some aul in the middle of nowhere. Everyone outside Shymkentoidland speaks Russian.
>>220620410I actually like kazakh but they all speak Russian already so I don't really feel any need to learn it. >>220620482What does cyrillic has to do with anything? Knowing it is not some kind of cool language skill, you can learn it in like 2 hours
>>220625559>>pedantic scholarly gibberish that nobody knows about or cares about but makes him look smart for redditThere was nothing pedantic or scholarly in that post, you're just a retard
this anon >>220627396 was kind enough to demonstrate a pedant stroking himself over how smart he looks for reddit, be sure to thank him for the illustration
>>220627437Nigga I'm not even a linguist. Shit like "SOV word order" and "vowel harmony" is basic as hell and if you have ever taken an interest in any foreign language you'd probably know these terms
>>220620410I don't wanna
>>220620410Why would I do that? Its an ugly sounding language I would get nothing from knowing.
Why is this thread full of butthurting russians?
>>220629693I'm a Polack in Kz >>220629527and I'm offended
>>220630590Great, I'm happy for you
>>220625370Rural German girls do that here, but without camera thing
>>220629527It is the most pleasant sounding turkic language imo>>220629693Who's butthurt? Not me
>>220632424Turkish sounds way less harsh and has a better flow.
>>220620410a language needs at least 100 million speakers to be worth learning
And why are most of them under foreign flags?
>the FSB tsaars are in mambet’s yurt’s walls againtime to move pastures
>>220632440Only shymkentoid speech sounds harsh. My gf is kypshak from the north and her speaking kazakh sounds like borderline quenya
The one thing that I don't like about russians is that their refusal to learn a bit of language. Boomers live here more than 30 years and they had ton of opportunity to study. Younger ones teached language as second at school, but when you are walking down street if you see russian 90% of time he don't know language. Same in baltic states, they rather will not have citizen rights rather study local language. Then they invade countries that don't want their bullshit.
>>220633629Nigga, my Russian-language school was 3/4 Kazakh and THE ETHNIC KAZAKHS THEMSELVES learned Kazakh as a second language. We had ONE (UNO, BIR) Kazakh girl in my class who spoke good Kazakh. And by good Kazakh I mean not inserting random Russian words everywhere in every sentence.Nobody wants to learn a language that is so cucked that the associated ethnic group barely even speaks it.
>>220633712Sea what i am talking about they seek excuses. We have different conversation with shala kazakhs and by statistics 90% of Kazakhs know Kazakh
>>220633830It’s not an excuse, but a perfectly rational reason. Not throughout 15 years of my life in kz I had to use that language, ever. Instead of creating incentives and acting as role models, you moralfag your way through the issue by going>doood you must be patriotic o algo this country raised you you owe us shitI don’t. The city I grew up in was built by Russian, the sovkhoz my mother grew up was built by Greeks and Germans, there’s literally absolutely fuck all Kazakhs contributed to the environment other than constant whining and wewuzzing.
>>220633905It's not moralfagging you just should obey rules of place where you life simple as.I bet you know german.We didn't wanted yourkind in country first place good riddance I hope there should be more people like you, that would just fucking leave and don't be nuisance inviting Putin.
>>220634021>obey the rulesI did though? Kazakhstan has two official languages, Kazakh and Russian. I had to learn the former in school as was the rule. Did that manifest as an actual irl need to use Kazakh? Absolutely not. You forget that the types of minorities exiled to Kazakhstan were considered dissidents by the Soviets so the last thing that works is going “just do what da gob’t tells you to do”.>We didn't wanted yourkind in country first placeNobody asked. Nobody asked the people who got exiled either. Don’t blame for the actions of a Georgian.
>>220625215Finnish, Estonian, Karelian, Turku dialect and Inari sámi
>>220634105Kazakh language is state language and russian is recognised as official there is unwritten rule that you should at least try to learn kazakh, else government didn't bothered to teach it. It's russian stuff, russians were sending settlers since tsardom. They didn't kept their part of the deal. What georgian did was just one of russian wave to colonisation and it's good that they are returning home, exept of course russians. When russians were building cities commies kept stealing food to feed those cities, so they were built at our expense and I don't want to listen that we actually owe russians shit. We just want you to behave.
>>220634284>there is unwritten ruleIn your Shymkentoid aul maybe. In Almaty, the unwritten rule is that Russian is the lingua franca and if a Kazakh starts talking to non-Kazakhs in Kazakh, then everyone around will just think of him as a mambet who just moved in. Nobody cares if Kazakhs talk Kazakh among themselves, nobody cares if Russians talk Russian among themselves, but interethnic communication is always done in Russian. Sorry, that’s how it works. >else government didn't bothered to teach itYou are dumbfuck retarded if you don’t understand how your own country’s government works. Kz government does something if you can embezzle money from it somehow.>russians were sending settlers since tsardomYes, freed serfs who had to move because despite being given freedom they were given no land. >They didn't kept their part of the dealWhat fucking deal? Nobody asked your people, retard. You were just a bunch of ooolooo natives galloping around. >commies kept stealing food to feed those citiesI’ll tell you a little secret, commies did that everywhere, from Lithuania to Cambodia. But it’s da ruskies o algo. You guys have some uncanny similarities to Ukrainians in how self-centered and unaware you are.
>>220634284>When russians were building cities commies kept stealing food to feed those cities, so they were built at our expense and I don't want to listen that we actually owe russians shit. We just want you to behave.>he doesn't know of redistribution of products inside USSR
>>220634412>Russian lingua francaYes and? Commie times over Ivan. >What fucking deal? Nobody asked your people, retard. You were just a bunch of ooolooo natives galloping around.Typical russian firstly say that we joined willingly and had deal we pay taxes and tariffs and you don't interfere much and provide protection.>I’ll tell you a little secret, commies did that everywhere, from Lithuania to Cambodia. But it’s da ruskies o algo. You guys have some uncanny similarities to Ukrainians in how self-centered and unaware you are.BUT THEY DID IT TOO!! What aboutism at it finest. Ukrainians were right about russians.>>220634558Meme image. It has same fallacy as nearly all regions were net negative to Russian federation.
>>220634809>commie timesI was born after the fall so your argument is shit.>we joined willinglyYes, you did, as a vassal. A suzerain doesn’t have to acknowledge a vassal’s opinion. And then you got fully integrated and split into governates. Governors were appointed by the tsar and could not negotiate with him. The tsar’s word was law. Basic monarchy 101. This ain’t kurultai shit, lil nigga.>BUT THEY DID IT TOO!!Yes, they did it to Russians in the Volga region as well. Your point being?
>>220625559>>work eat goyslop return home stare at dopamine box repeatthis what billions of people does tho
>>220634920>I was born after fallSo duh then why you didn't bother to learn at slightest. On second thought you went to Germany so you are excused. Either learn or leave, but russians don't leave and keep pestering rioting when we are trying to enforce rules.>VassalWhat you said was samoderzhavye 101, retard feudalism is when you summon parliament and estates general, zemsky sobor to have discussion. Suzerain also had obligations before vassals.>Russians did ot to volga regionSo how it excuses russians per se? What your example shows that ruskies were just bigger evil.
Koreans don't speak Kazakh either and for all the same reason. It's don't disrespect, just the lack of necessity
>>220635142>then why you didn't bother to learn at slightestI just explained why? I never actually needed it irl. I was only ever forced to learn it in school, that’s about it.>either learn or leaveNo such law in place, but I’m sure you can DM Tokayev about it o algo.>Suzerain also had obligations before vassals.Yes, to protect them from outside threats, Dzhungars in your case. That’s it.>So how it excuses russians per se?You constantly jump between le commies and le russians, so whom are you actually blaming then?
>>220620410No Kazakh women to pickup near me
>>220620410Why would I? They all know Russian anyways
>>220636500women are the worst reason to learn a language.
>>220620410Because I secretly hate myself and comfortable enough with knowing two other languages
>>220632418I remember some jokes about this phenomenon in one movies
>>220632424All turkic languages sound like shitThey all are the same: behelme shebelme nasyalnikama rugiastamana
>>220637970>hate myselfWhat does that have to do with learning a language?
