>just break this kanji wall and you'll read japanese fluently >just break this word wall and you'll read japanese fluently >just break this register wall and you'll read japanese fluently the grind never ends
you will never learn Japanese.
>>220646995>>220647024i will learn japanese and 4chuds and redditors will seethe
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>>220646232i thought kanji were wordsi thought japanese didn't have tones (what are registers if not tones)
>>220647147Never, I can already parse eroge on my fourth month and today I hit 6000 mined words. Tomorrow it's 150 words. I will reach 10.000 words in a month or two and then reading will become much smoother.>>220647191Registers are when a character is talking in a certain way and using a certain set of words. Some days I can read almost smoothly, some days the eroge keeps throwing new words at me. What's certain is that learning new words became much easier. I just need to keep an eye on my retention job because with this massive amount of words leaks are inevitable. Once I can read comfortably I will go through my entire vocab and tackle the words that didn't stick hard enough. It should take me 10 days at worst since Anki and reverse translation recall is helping me with reviews.
>>220647292>Registers are when a character is talking in a certain way and using a certain set of wordsdo you mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Register_(sociolinguistics)because that's a thing in every language that is any good i suspect, it certainly is in english at least
>>220647357Yes, but english doesn't have many honorific words like Japanese. Also Japanese is a contextual language so you need to get used to the way they say things besides learning an entirely new vocabulary.
>>220647477>Yes, but english doesn't have many honorific words like Japanesesir, isn't that only a handful of meme suffixes which you even pick up from watching anime, luigi-kun chan tan sami senpai?
>>220647510>sir, isn't that only a handful of meme suffixes which you even pick up from watching animenope japanese people sometimes use these terms, although this is basically literary language so the vocab density is way higher than daily life language.
>>220646232your posts are cringe
>>220647510also japanese has honorifics for abstract concepts and objects too, they're not many but sometimes you see them in the wild
>>220647573can you give me some examples? this sounds bizarre. Do you mean things like shrines are sama'ified and things like a local bar are -kun/chan/whatever'ified?that's very cute if so
>>220647648things like ご存知だ which is the honorific form of 知っている
>>220647722>translator says "You know" / "I know"is this like how european languages have formal/informal? I could see how that could be tricky, especially if there's multiple levels
>>220647765>is this like how european languages have formal/informal?yeah basically, and if a new character gets introduced and she speaks in a very formal and masculine way that's another wall you're gonna hitmy vocab is technically decent enough to survive in japan, i just want to learn the language properly
>>220647722Yeah there's no way this applies to the average person, the literary and spoken language are likely far removed. It seems like learning Shakespeare to talk to the average person in England.
>>220646232I read japanese fluently but that's the easy part because you have access to it anytime and can grind anki. 2k hours and 15k words is what it took me.Now speaking is way harder (except of you don't care about sounding retarded) and understanding natives speaking full speed is hell mode.
>>220648226The average person in japan can't read light novels>2k hours and 15k words is what it took meI'm currently at 6k words and i can somewhat make sense of what they say but the grinding is still annoying, i suppose things will get smoother by 10k>Now speaking is way harderuse AI to work on your output and watch anime or listen to japanese videos
>>220648226They're very autismal about it, it's part of their daily life. One of the most famous comedian routine is one of them using the wrong pronoun formality and it escalates from there.Funny thing is that if you stop giving a shit about it and just use casual form you'll make way more friends. I know people who have been there for years and can't form any relationship, while others got friends and gf instantly. The first group tried too hard to assimilate their autism.
>>220648298>The average person in japan can't read light novelsthere is no way this is true
>>220648347>there is no way this is truei talk to japanese people nearly every day and they tell me they can't read for shit, sometimes i send them the words i mine and they can't even read them, especially if it's a movie title or some buddhist name
>>220648298I'm also fluent in speaking, just warning you it's another beast. Spent one year there and formed long term relationships.AI and youtube isn't enough to make you sound natural unfortunately.>>220648347It's bullshit, dude is delusional and think his 6k words makes him better than natives lmao. They can read anything fluently, they just don't know 1 or 2 specific words for isekai shit or obscure 7th century clan name.
>>220648435>I'm also fluent in speaking, just warning you it's another beasti will think about it once i will reach reading fluency in a couple of months>>220648435SAO light novels have thousands of and thousands of words you'll never see in daily life and if you can't read those kanji you might as well not know the words at all
>>220648520I just read a random chapter and the only word I didn't know was 延髄 but I know both kanji so I could guess it.It's targeting 14 years old kids who are retarded enough to enjoy this cringe shit, anyone can read it, the rare words make sense in the context.Reminds me that "Kirito" is slang for "cringe teenager" lmao.You'll be fluent at some point since it's just a matter of time, I'm just breaking balls about japs not being able to read light novels because they might not know a few words when you ask them out of context.
really seems like moonrune learners hate their fellow learners far more than any other language lolfor every other one it's shared commiseration but for japanese it's weeb infighting
>>220649622judging by this thread it seems it's because half the people are concerned with reading and half are concerned with speaking and neither system overlaps like it's a half-baked language
i like russian because I just string words together
>>220648253How did you learn grammar? Can you pass the N1?
