>our early leaders were corrupt retards with single digit IQ, cowardice, and chud power fantasies who would betray their country and even friends for a fancy title>anyway USA was only able to take all this land because they probably infiltrated our government o algo. we would have crushed their army otherwise
>>220697988Nobody says this You made these "mexicans" up in your head
>>220698172I heard you say it yesterday.
>>220697988If this had been Spain, we would have recovered TexasWe would have put those slave owner retards in their place.mexcrementrs lost it with that moron Santa Anna in charge.
People have to pretend it was the CIA because otherwise the general conclusion is:Mexican culture is inferior to American culture, and by extension spanish culture is inferior to American culture. Both mexican nationalists and hispanchistas have to cope hard in order to save face See >>220698325. He is like 5 posts away from spamming cathedrals like that means something
>>220698325I read a book in the 4th grade that mentioned this war and every moment detailing his cowardice and idiocy had me thinking "the next page is gonna say how they executed him" and when I got to the end of the section it just said they made him president again.imagine if we did the same thing and reelected a criminal who dragged us into a war
>>220697988Who’s saying that Nina, who’s saying all of those things
>>220697988Why does anybody care about this conquest anyway? This territory was almost completely empty and constantly at the mercy of raids from other indians. It's Falklands tier. >this territory is ours because our old masters once owned it even though we're doing nothing with it o algoIn mere decades white people populated every square inch of it and turned it into the richest places on the planet.
>>220698325>evendoe you got raped by McKinley
>>220697988kek thirdies really do be like thatgotta defend their izzat
>>220698565Funniest part is that the Mexican American war happened in the wake of a giant civil war (of which Texian secession was only one theater with the Yucatan still being de facto independent at the time) due to Santa Anna declaring himself dictatorAnd they STILL brought him back
>>220699629mexicans are illegal to good governmentall latinx are actually
>>220699629Only the ruling class. Real mexicans were living under the most inhuman conditions which included no education or knowledge of public affairs at allThe mexican ruling class was an extension of the spanish caste order. They were retarded animals and stood no chance against americans. Sad but whatever thats how it is
>>220700079>Real mexicans The ruling class was fake?
Mexicans were so throughtly btfo in this war. I know its the United States, but common, show some fighting spirit
>>220701503They never represented or identified themselves with the mexican nation, so they are "mexicans"
>>220700079>>220698517retarded chilango does'nt know anything about northern mexico episode
>>220701503Until Juarez, Mexico never had a single leader who actually saw themselves as Mexican. Only temporarily embarrassed Europeans ruling over their serfs and slaves on vast plantations
>>220701574you got landcucked by half a dozen different countries, the history of brazil is the opposite of manifest destinyeven the fucking dutch and french cucked you lmao, not to mention uruguay and argentina
>>220701811Are you saying before Juarez all the rulers were European? Are you stupid
>>220698325LOLYou lost the only war against America even harder than mexico lost
>>220698565>imagine if we did the same thing and reelected a criminal who dragged us into a warKek we finally did it 200 years later
>>220698565congoservatives fault
>>220697988Gringx chuds got btfo'd multiple times before you were successful. And the success only came because of the political instability of Mexicans arguing over what type of government they wanted and changing leadership multiple times.>>220698325All Mexico needed was to keep Emperor Iturbide. That's literally all they had to do to maintain stable and maintain the Total Gringo Death.But Santa Ana is a retard for allowing gringx chuds immigrate into Mexico. If I were him and wanted those lands populated I would have invited Mestizos and Castizos from South America, plus French, Romanians, Croats, Ukrainans, Poles, Russians, Czechs, Austrians, Hungarians and Italians.
>>220704238iturbide was the first one to invite american settlersanyway the loss of texas was inevitable, americans were hellbent on getting it and california even if it took them a hundred years.
>>220704292I knew Santa Ana was a retard for allowing them to immigrate, but wasn't aware Iturbide was also. That's the main problem Mexico had. Because honestly even inviting Canadians would've been better since at the time they hated Americans. But the best course of action was to either do something that makes existing Mexicans reproduce more and move them up, second best thing would be to invite Mestizos and Castizos to settle there (natives from south America should remain in their ancestral land since they have roots there) and the third best thing would have been to invite Catholic euros followed by Orthodox Euros, Levantines and North Africans.
>>220697988Wrong, it was Masons and Americans, this man was Mexico’s last chance
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>>220704461he tried to turn us into a confederate colony>>220704351not enough time or resources
>>220697988Indian Chikaner is back
>>220697988>creates a bunch of random tiny territories everywhereWhy?
>>220705145Probably local oligarchies wanting more federal gibs and political power for themselves. In Brazil thats definitely the case with tiny northeastern states
>>220705202On the contrary, it was to reduce the power of regional oligarchies.
>>220698325>Couldn't even keep Mexico itself>somehow thinks he'd keep Texas Do Spaniards really lmao
>>220704351>>220704292>>220704238you lost
>>220701995He's saying they saw themselves as European, not that they actually were. Idk if he's correct since I know almost nothing about Mexican history.
>>220706228That's exactly what I mean, Juarez was the first president not from the criollo ruling class who had masterminded the revolution to wrest power from the peninsulares who were tied deeply to España as bureaucrats of the crown rather than local landholders of vast plantationsHowever the criollos themselves saw the Mexican project as a farce and focused solely on developing Mexico City and a few other "white" (as white as spics can get lmfao) enclaves and their own plantation mansions while neglecting the well-being of the vast majority of indigenous and mestizo Mexicans. Juarez was the one to break this trend and begin La Reforma, which is why the manlet is still fondly remembered 150 years laterHe also beat the crap out of Frenchmen which is always good fun
>>220698325Spain is the reason Mexico is the way it is.
>>220706228>>220706518Well he’s retarded because there were presidents before Juarez that were indigenous or black so clearly not from the “criollo ruling class”
>>220706571Saying Vicente Guerrero was black is the silliest wewuz of Mexican historyHe was a brown spaniard
>>220698325genuinely why do you browns have so much bravado? WASPs and Germanics have raped you to death
>>220706534People born in México city it's the reason México is the way it is
>>220698325>Spain unironically saying they would do a better jobThe only thing you guys would do better than Mexico would be at losing more land.
>>220707567It doesn't make sense, most drug cartels and most murders are from other states
this is nuts
>>220704238fucking chicano
>>220698325You literally lost an entire continent to a bunch of local militias
>>220704238I don't think he ever could control the migration. Texas was a frontier territory, with no way to excersice authority over it. It's like alt history where Russia keeps Alaska, even though when gold would be discovered, americans would immigrate there so hard they would outnumber russians 20 to 1
