What kind of sci-fi is popular in your country
Sci-fi peaked here
haha wow thats such a wacky tweet thanks for showing me dude
>>220726067Sorry I should’ve posted BBC cuck content or racebait to fit in with the board culture
>>220726064early life?
did this guy watch Threads and imagine all british sci-fi is like that
>>220726064Not really sci-fi, but I do miss anthologies. Outer Limits was a good sci-fi anthology.
>>22072629475% of the time the racebait is a Twitter screenshot
>>220726011not sure any of that's true
>>220726011Unitedstatian sci-fi is DuneEveryday after doesn't hold a candle
>>220726521US sci-fi used to be varied, Space Odyssey 2001 was sci-fi yet it feels completely different from Star Trek. After the 80s everything became about franchises and Star Wars took over, so even if there were good sci-fi novels released during the interim no one was making them into a series or a movie. Ender's Game is an immensely popular sci-fi novel that never got made into a series despite everyone loving it, all it received was a very poor movie adaptation like 30 years after the book was released.
>>220726852Star Wars is not scifi, it's swords and sorcery fantasy set in space
>>220726011Kinohammer
>>220726011keked
>>220726852You had some great scifi authors
>>220726521>Unitedstatian sci-fi is DuneA man gets his beliefs on polygamy (Islam) confirmed by the aliens of Arrakis.
>>220726852Everything ended with Star Wars
>>220726454And the other 25% it's a tiktok screenshot
>>220726911Crazy how GW sues everyone for copyright infringement when 100% of their setting is a copy of Dune
>>220726993Dune is what made me interested in the history of the Fatimid CaliphateI think that's why many people didn't got Frankie's message righr
>>220727013It's not 100% off Dune, it rips off many things, only some of it is dune like the navigators. It doesn't matter though as it's fucking great, and yes I know you love Dune you've already mentioned it. The first Dune book is great, I dropped the series during the second though as it was dull and I heard most of the other books are shit, great world though.
>>220727013>>220727130*2000 AD comics + Dune
>>220727199>rips other scifi off>ends up being better than all of themmogged
>>220727199Andb Moorcoks chaos stuff, and Starship Troopers, and Darkelves from Elric Beastmen from Broo from Runequest, Eldar from Tolkien,... honestly you can count things that were GW's original Ideas on 1 hand.
>>220727239Its ok. But doesn't hold a candle to proper sci-fi>>220727130>only some of it is dune like the navigatorsThe God-EmperorThe Ecclesiarchy.The butlerian jihadThe mentats
>>220727340O also Admech wholenshtick Is stolen from both Canticle for Leibowitz and Azimov's Foundation, and the warp is ripped from Cordwainer Smith's stories
>>220727386I can't believe Dune was the first science fiction world to come up with 'AI bad so it's banned', but maybe it was.
>>220727386And lasguns these too. O and one of The Nuns in space sub factions is bassicaly Bene Geserit
Any sovietkino recs? I loved roadside picnic, I'm not so fussed about people flying around in space kind of sci-fi
>>220727461I can't remember much about the Bene Gesserit but enough to know they're not like the Adeptus Sororitas
USAian scifi is overrated. Lot of cowboys in space type shlock and there were a lot of pedophiles in the scene in its heyday. Maybe still but i have no idea what it's like now.
i mive alaistair reynilds and gwne wolfefooooul ;3
One thing that is funny about how Star Wars and Warhammer have copied Dune is how they adoped heaps of stuff that from Dune has a perfectly logically consistent in-universe explanation but in those universes it's 'just a thing' or 'it's just cool' like the sword combat or the trope of incest which are both perfectly explained in Dune.
>>220727517I was going to suggest Solaris and then I saw that it's Polish, the Pole ITT would have murdered me.
>>220727517Everything Lem. Solaris especially got shafted by the movie adaptations.
>>220727542wow mobile sucks for typing*gene wolfe*alastair reynolds*love
>>220727532oh shut up you fucking woman
>>220727520It's because religion is exposed as a fraud, conspiracy and a tool of power and manipulation in Dune because it's for adults while in Warhammer it's real and 'cool' because it's a fucking toy commercial masquerading as a scifi story.
>>220727542>alaistair reynildsRevelation Space was both good and bad, overall it was okay with great ideas. Chasm City was fucking great, and even Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days were better than the main series imo. The main series had great ideas but overall it was meh.
>>220727595You know nothing about Warhammer
>>220727517hard to be a god
>>220727626Warhammer is basically Dune with a child-safety lock because Warhammer much like Star Wars is Dune with all the mature tropes, themes and messages removed.
>>220726011The kind where a conscious neutrino ocean gaslights you by shapeshifting into your memories.
>>220727647Stop posting mate it's getting embarrassing
V for Vendetta: America becomes failed state leper colony, Britain rises again. Why are they like this?
>>220727647give it a rest
>>220726011Danish sci-fi
>>220727664Though the worst thing about Warhammer is that that the whole point of it was that the whole maximalism of it was supposed to be an expression of satire which is basically lost on its entire fandom. It's basically a franchise that startd as a big joke and it's the fandom that simply never 'got it'.
>>220727600>Chasm CityMy lad, yeah that shit slapped
>>220727450I think it was mateNigga was writing when there were barely any computers
>>220727555TrueSword combat makes zero sense in 40k or Star wars
>>220727626>>220727664German is right and every true 40k Fan knows this
The thing with Dune is that it canonized a lot of stuff that we know from scifi, similar to how LOTR canonized them. Basically any bland form of contemporary fantasy is downstream from LOTR. However contrary to LOTR Dune was an extremely moder novel with its themes about imperialism, colonization and the intersection between it and ecologism, dependence on resource extraction, the role of religion in politics, eugenics, social stagnation, etc. Unfortunately scifi works downstream from Dune went the other way and instead of building on this legacy they took some motifs and aesthetics to build vastly inferior stories and worlds.
>>220727936surely this has to be casus belli against the US?youd dont see an english (united kingdian) writer with the same problem
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holy shit I just realized the US grought us George R. R. Martin and Parrixk Rothfuss tooWhats up with that? Finish what you started you cucks
>>220727840Yes, sword combat in Dune is a thing because technology has come full circle. Dune's author has rightfully observed that advances in modern warfare can render current tech completely obsolete and allow for an echo of old tech to be reborn. This is something we are actually seeing now in current wars, like in Ukraine with how WW2 era tank doctrines have been rendered completely ineffective, how we are seeing the rebirth of light infantry and artillery. This is extremely astute and high level. In star war they just use swords because it's cool and since they are wizards with swords they get away with it. Similarly incest and family relations in starwars is basically a lame plot point that is straight out of soap operas while in dune the theme of incest that is pervasive in Dune is actually a high-level social commentary on aristocratic strucutres/nepotism in the begging and then culminating in a full-blown critique on eugenicism and biotechnology.
I am not saying I dislike all of Star Wars, especially its aesthetics (however I greatly dislike warhammer, also partly because of cringegoth and wannabe grimmdark aesthetics which only 14 year old girl grown in a strict Christian family can grow to like) because it has actually given us a few cool stories and world-building and works as a heroic epic but that's about it (Obviously with the exception of Andor which has far surpassed any scifi-story in the last 30 years, except for maybe 3 Body Problem).
>>220726011Stanisław Lem wrote some fun stories>Harry Jones has a series of grave accidents. After each accident, Cybernetics Company adds prostheses to his body until virtually all his body, including a half of his brain, becomes artificial and Jones accumulates a huge debt to the company. The company sues him for return of all prostheses, but the lower court rejected the claim because it would be equivalent of killing Jones. The company tricked him into replacing the remaining half-brain and then sued with the demand to acquire Jones as its property in lieu of debt. The court is confronted with the dilemma: if Jones is machine, he/it cannot be sued, otherwise, if he is still a person, he cannot become company's property. Harry called his brother as evidence. However, it turns out the latter is in the same predicament after the plane crash.
>>220726911That's not really sci-fi.Brian Aldiss was apparently a bong though, and his Hothouse was really coolWish they'd make it into a movie instead of Avatar slop
>>220726911This picture is just emanating high-levels of repressed homosexuality.
>>220727840>>220728072Lightsabers are effective because Jedi have magic powers that let them sense oncoming shots and lightsabers can easily deflect them. Lightsabers are worthless to anyone who isn't a Jedi.>incest and family relations in starwarsIt's literally one scene and it wasn't even intended. Leia wasn't supposed to be Luke's sister until they decided to wrap things up in RotJ. Originally his sister was going to be a new character he would go on adventures with in a sequel trilogy.
>>220727559>>220727560Solaris is one of his least interesting books, I have no idea why it gets glazed so much. He had plenty of much better stories.
>>220728221>wannabe grimmdarkGW literally coined that term thoughbeit, and it's stupidly exaggerated because that's the whole pointWarhammer and Star Wars are not sci-fi anyway, it's fantasy in space
>>220728495>Lightsabers are effective because Jedi have magic powers that let them sense oncoming shots and lightsabers can easily deflect themThey can choke people from afar and mind control othersThe jedi has no need for weapons at all>Lightsabers are worthless to anyone who isn't a Jedi.That ugly cyborg tho
When I see 'sci fi', I think of Egan, Lem, Watts, Clarke, Asimov, Reynolds, Baxter... not Dune or WH40K.
>>220728287I read the Ijon Tichy stories so many times as a kid, they were The Hitchhiker's Guide and Discworld before such things existed, I thought
>>220728495>Lightsabers are worthless to anyone who isn't a Jedi.Except for the dozens of chracters that are lightsaber users in the story that are neither Jedi/Sith.
>>220726996Star Wars was just the science fiction version of old Japanese samurai movies
>>220728825Good comparison, I liked Discworld a lot as a kid.>TichyI really liked the one where he flies through a time singularity and meets different versions of himself from different days of the week while days pass and he becomes each one of them for a day. That Alters game reminded me a bit of it.
>>220728586I mention it because it's one of his most well known because of the adaptations, which bury the original themes in favor of the directors'
>>220728586His Master's Voice was my favourite, though it's barely sci-fi and more about the clashing egos of scientists and how their realities impact their supposedly objective thinking
>>220726011These are all very specific examples of sci fi from each country. You could also say Japanese sci fi>Cowboys in space American sci fi >giant mutated animals and aliens destroying small towns French Sci Fi>alternate earth AGAINBritish sci fi>Totalitarianism and genocide but in SPACE
>>220728945Lucas used lots of elements that appeared in Kurosawa's films, but that's not true. The tropes are way older.
>>220730536Japanese sci fi>gundamAmerican sci fi>star warsFrench Sci Fi>fifth element, specifically that part where corbin tries to molest leelooBritish sci fi>dr. who
>>220727684kino film
>>220726993Based.
we have no sci fi literature
>>220727720It's because 40k went from being British to being American. Bigger market to be captured.
>>220726998>>220726454We need to up our homegrown racebait game, we can't let our board's culture die
>>220728405Repressed homosexuality is literally the heart and soul of male art.
>>220727013dune is gayer
For me, it's the Hyperion Cantos.
>>220726011Argentinian Sci-Fi:>Space toads attack a refinery
>>220726011Unironically American Sci-Fi mogs the competition here. Star Trek, Dune, 2001, Star Wars, the Terminator, Fallout, etc. all stacked together is like putting Messi, Maradona, Pele, Zidane, etc. all in the same team.
>>220731198over-rated series.
>>220727684Kino edit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4XYmBrn3L4
japanese sci-fi isn't just gundamwestern audiences are arguably a lot more familiar with nausicaa, which has no robots or space in it at allalso there are mecha that don't have to do with space, like patlabor and 86, and even metal gearplus other japanese sci-fi games like death stranding and resident evilthere is also proper sci-fi literature (so excluding LNs) like yukikaze and sisyphean (basically japanese greg egan) though i don't know much about this sphere since i imagine the vast majority of it is untranslated
>>220727720>the whole point of it was that the whole maximalism of it was supposed to be an expression of satire which is basically lost on its entire fandom40k stopped being a sardonic satire after 2nd edition when it became its own self contained story instead of just a lazy satirical port of Warhammer Fantasy in space + Rogue Trader. Its not a fact lost on the fandom, the creators specifically shifted the tone and lore of the series decades ago.
>>220731525oh yeah can't forget legend of the galactic heroes for a non-mecha space opera
>>220731525Japan probably has the most varied sci fi scene of any nation besides the US and Britain honestly.
What are some good sci-fi short stories?
>>220731539>legend of the galactic heroesGoated. Is it really a space opera though? It has a great score but it's very dialogue heavy
>>220731555story of your life is an easy recommendation, it's the source material for the movie arrival (which is good, but not as good as the original)
>>220731555Anything by Isaac Asimov
>>220731557the term "space opera" doesn't have anything to do with music, it's a pun comparing them to "soap opera" TV showsso yes, dialogue heavy is a key feature
>>220731555By the Waters of Babylon There Will Come Soft Rains I Have No Mouth and I Must ScreamAlso the King in Yellow actually has a lot of sci fi elements in it and is a collection of interconnected short stories i highly recommend
>>220731539>legend of the galactic heroesMy niggaKircheis did nothing wrong
>>220726993Moviefags don't know all the Fremen polygamy shenanigans that Paul has to contend with in the book
>>220731562>>220731566>>220731609Thanks lads
>>220727180I love him
>>220726011People in my country are fucking obsessed with Interstellar because they think it makes them smart. I think it's actually the most midwit shit ever made but if I express this opinion out loud I will be raped in every orifice while everyone yells "Bravo Nolan!"
>>220731038maybe for you, fruitcake
>>220731406all nerd shit that is cringe
