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A Cruel Angel's Thesis
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>>220888510
Tbh they're more hygienic than the average indian
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>>220888562
source?
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>>220888575
Islamic purity laws
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>>220888616
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If you're depressed over being indian, just reminding you that atleast you're not filipino
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>>220888645
chill out man
billions must smile
also, good morning
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>>220888562
I like you
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>>220888717
after all you both are ummah
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>>220888645
You dont svffer in PH
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Rama > Allah
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>>220888889
YHWH == Allah == Yeshua == Vishnu == Odin == Ahura Mazda
Its all the same
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>>220888916
>saar all religion same to same only
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>>220888931
Yes its all a made up meme, and?
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>>220888562
>Mfs who pour sand in their asscrack to clean poopoo and bath in camel piss are hygienic
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>>220888916
>>220888931
I'll rather be an atheist
I'm not worshiping a sandnigger
simple as
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>>220888562
>>220888616
>mudslime macaco
go back
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>>220889139
You all sound the same pedro
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>>220889389
go back
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>>220888510
Killing Gangus.
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>>220889506
...in my transsexual lungi delusions
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>>220889511
Gangu obliteration.
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women from good families are getting kallu bfs overseas on mommy and daddy's money

blackpilling
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>>220889690
>nri's doing nri things
Toh hum kya kare bahinchod
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>>220889690
>>220889714
Gangus spotted. Gangu eliminated.
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>>220889139
Youre evangelical
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>>220889714
it matters to me man, I have to see it everyday

>>220889763
why so pressed?
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>>220889831
Why are you so pressed about gobarjeeta x black relationships?
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Taking a shit.
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>>220890667
I didnt wash properly ig, its itching hard and I cant leave class rn
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>>220890681
Cleaned it, that felt good
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>>220888562
You're fucking pathetic as a person
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eating chocolate feels so good bros
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>>220889690
Why are academical niggers hideous than thuggie niggers
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I started eating 1 of these 200mg soya chunk packs every day and I am feeling better than ever.
belly fat has decreased and muscle mass has increased as well
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>>220891440
>thuggie
So you mean high T, thats just their natural state. Thats why women love them too
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>>220891488
>This nígga unironically consuming soy
SOYBOI ALERT!!
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>>220891515
yeah and it's fucking great!
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>>220891578
Right? I'm the only one who loves it among people I know
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>>220891488
200 mg is a little too much.
100 mg is sufficient.
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Lol
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>>220891634
*gram
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>/bharat/ is infested with soíbois now
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>>220891488
Pajeets each garbage like this and then wonder why their nation of 1.5bn """""people""""" can't win a single gold medal at the Olympics
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>>220891680
Us dalits aren't developed enough to taste true delicacies of gobar so let us have soybean chunks for time being
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What does she taste like?
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>>220891732
like cowdung
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>>220891732
cheap rose scented perfume
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>>220891731
>gobar
Atleast gobar have medicinal value unlike soyabean
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>>220891781
toh kha le gobar yaar
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yaar pajeet
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Internet berg shat the bed
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soyachunks are alright
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>>220890950
mate you're vistula cattle, a colony of swamp dwellers who couldn't use a plow till bismark elevated you to sapience.
You're a nation of hereditary stable boys and boot lickers. A menda cock-sleeve buffing romanov boots, with your tounge, until yesterday parasitically subsisting on EU alms.
You're ruskies with no identity other being effeminate homosexuals on the internet.
Who are you to talk down to the Brazilian?
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>>220891908
they are like 53% pure protein. they are the most protein dense foods out there. Plus they also have lots of calcium and 0% fat. It's a superfood honestly. Best of all it's dirt cheap.
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>>220891930
Is this seethe because of them stopping turcomutts advance?
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>>220891930
Why is a pajeet talking about untermensch? You were ooga boogas until the Brits civilised you.
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>>220892037
No, history is history. I quite like the northern euros.
Ottoman conquest of Constantinople under Mehmet is goated howeverbiet
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>>220892139
Lol, how long will you stay in India
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Mullabros, what are you guys getting taught there?
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>>220892260
रासपंचाध्यायी श्रीमद्भागवत महापुराण (दशम स्कंध, अध्याय 29-33) का वह पवित्र हिस्सा है, जिसमें भगवान श्रीकृष्ण और व्रज की गोपियों के बीच दिव्य रासलीला का वर्णन है।
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>>220892250
I am Indian. I just don't like Indians acting uppity towards their betters. Subcontinentals should know their place.
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>>220892338
>fanfiction
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>>220891930
>Kekmiri butthurt for ummah's sake
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>>220892339
Then don't say "you were ooga boogas". Say "we were", comrade.
which i don't necessarily disagree with.
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>>220892338
translation??
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>>220892218
Seljuks set up things for that, balkan infidel bussy fucking ottomans aurafarmed capturing dead city-state after many decades
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>>220888562
@grok deboonk this
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>>220892510
Maybe, in addition to the 4th crusade.
But man what an aura farm. An overwhelming force manned with massive seige canons pounding on an impregnable fortress. An ambitious sultan carrying ships over land to bypass defenses.
And a seige that marked the end of Rome, a decadent power, marking the rise of a new empire.
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>>220893188
>>220892218
>WE WUZZ
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>>220893251
I have no connection to the turks baradar, we can trace our lineage back to the iron ages.
But ironically, chances are you have some turco blood.
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Just had a good Alfham mandi, how come Arabs(musalmans) are so good at inventing delicious foods
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>>220894481
dunno bro, i don't eat animals for food. Its savagery coded.
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>>220894507
>he fell for the ponga brainwash
Your ancestors ate alot of meat and were healthy
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>>220893321
>chances are you have some turco blood.
Projecting again I see
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>>220893321
>we can trace our lineage back to the iron ages.
WE WUZZ SYED
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>>220894481
Mandi is pretty good. Try this as well
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>>220894909
hata gullya kyazi loguk mé balai, chyané khout ah paze hoon rachun
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>>220894481
Fat cunts need to be good at at least something
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>>220895272
All the vegcucks ive come across are either malnourished or obese thulthuls
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>>220895012
Goggle can't even recognise this language
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hello
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did they really ban Dalitesh for sharing pedo links or is he still shitting up threads outside the catalog?
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>DC = Dalit Chamars
>SRH = Savarna Raj Hindu
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>>220896271
Good
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>Hitting 130+ in an innings most times in T20 cricket
4 Abhishek Sharma
3 Aaron Finch & Chris Gayle
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>>220900370
m'assllah brother said well
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>>220900370
Glass houses and such, ya know?
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>>220901448
only k2a and dravidian and dalits inbreed
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>>220900370
Temu inbreeding not close enough
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>>220900842
Im not seeing the jav watermark
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>>220901513
A lot of your elite priestly brahmanas are severely inbred mate. especially those sampling from small exclusive gene pools like Saryuparin Kanyakubja (hunchback virgin) Brahmins to name one ;)
Despite gotra exogamy and much like Ashkenazi Jews (genetic disorders like Tay-Sachs), there is a significant increased likelihood of rare genetic mutations, diabetes, heart diseases, blood-disorders (Thalassaemia), etc.
Even ignoring brahamans, certain northern communities like agarwals, UP bania, etc suffer the same-issues related to cousin marriage with a limited gene pool.
>This community has a significantly high incidence of rare conditions like Megalencephalic Leukodystrophy and Spinocerebellar Ataxia Type 12
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>>220901793
>A lot of your elite priestly brahmanas are severely inbred mate. especially those sampling from small exclusive gene pools like Saryuparin Kanyakubja (hunchback virgin) Brahmins to name one ;)
proof?
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>>220901838
You can google it and find research articles. This is the 21st century retard.
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>>220901853
so no proof? gotcha
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Congratulations to Dalitesh on his scientific marriage
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>>220901871
found a lot of cited papers using google. This isn't my field, so I couldn't be bothered to actually look, but the findings for endogamous isolate groups have been consistent for like decades in genetic science.
https://doi.org/10.1177/0011392102050006005
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352340922002724
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40246-019-0215-5
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/2041-2223-3-20
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1673852725000384
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>>220902584
TL;DR
let's say what you say is true, imagine how heavily inbred you and ummah must be when you fags don't even practise the gotra system
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>>220902645
Well according to the first paper, like 20% of your specific tribe doesn't even practice the gotra system.
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>>220902696
and 100% of yours doesn't
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>>220902584
>https://doi.org/10.1177/0011392102050006005
Despite endogamy:
No strong inbreeding signal was detected (no major “inbreeding-like effect”)
Interpretation
Even though people marry within sub-caste:
The population is not genetically as inbred as expected
Likely because:
Gotra exogamy still mixes lineages
Historical gene flow wasn’t completely absent

>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352340922002724
Indian populations (including caste groups):

Show high structure due to endogamy
But still share deep common ancestry

>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40246-019-0215-5

Indian caste groups show:
Genetic differentiation due to long-term endogamy
Evidence of founder effects (small ancestral pools)
Important implication
Some groups may have:
Higher frequency of specific inherited mutations
But:
This is group-specific, not universal

>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/2041-2223-3-20

Core findings
Caste system shaped genetic variation via:
Endogamy (within caste marriage)
Restricted gene flow between groups
Key insight
Differences between caste groups exist, but:
They are relatively small overall
Most Indians still share common ancestry components

>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1673852725000384

Main conclusions (from modern genomic studies)
Indian populations show:
High homozygosity (shared DNA segments) due to endogamy
Strong identity-by-descent patterns
Endogamy became strict roughly:
~2000 years ago
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>>220902764
Our rates are actually lower than southern groups, I was gonna post a pandit based study but that seems like a conflict of interest.
I'll just delete this convo
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>>220902880
Inbreeding and consanguineous marriage (marriage between blood relatives) are prevalent in certain segments of the Kashmiri population, particularly among Muslims, often reaching high rates due to cultural, social, and geographic isolation. Studies indicate rates of consanguinity can range from 35-50% in specific areas like Rajouri and Poonch, often involving first-cousin unions.

Prevalence: While endogamy (marrying within one’s caste or group) is common across all Kashmiri groups, consanguinity is specifically preferred among Kashmiri Muslim populations.
Regional Studies: In the Bhimber district of Azad Jammu and Kashmir, studies showed over 62% of marriages are consanguineous, with 50.13% being first-cousin unions.
Trends: A study of the Ahmadiyyas in the Kashmir valley showed a steady rise in total inbreeding and its related components over time.
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>>220902920
Of the valley?
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North Indian Brahmins (e.g. Saryuparin/Kanyakubj) have long practiced strict sub‐caste endogamy (marrying within one’s own Jāti) combined with gotra exogamy (forbidding marriage within the same patrilineal lineage or gotra)[1][2]. Over millennia, this social structure has isolated Brahmin subgroups into relatively closed gene pools. Population‐genetics theory predicts that such isolation (small effective population size, genetic drift, founder effects) can increase homozygosity and the frequency of rare recessive alleles. However, empirical studies of Brahmin subcastes have not found strong inbreeding signatures. For example, detailed pedigree studies in Uttar Pradesh Brahmins (including Kanyakubj) showed no net inbreeding (F_IS≈0) despite strict sub‐caste endogamy[3]. Occasional intra‐gotra marriages (11–17%) do occur in practice[4], but overall Brahmin groups remain genetically distinct from one another and largely outbred at close kin levels.
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>>220903053
Recent genomic surveys of Indians confirm that prolonged endogamy has left detectable footprints: many endogamous communities show long runs of homozygosity and evidence of founder events[5][6]. One large study (2800 individuals, 263 groups) found 81 groups (many >1 million population) exhibit strong founder events – including some Brahmin communities[6]. These findings imply elevated risk of recessive disorders in highly isolated groups (e.g. the Vysya have a 100-fold higher rate of butyrylcholinesterase deficiency)[7]. To date, however, no specific genetic diseases or mental-health disorders have been documented in Saryuparin/Kanyakubj Brahmins that can be unambiguously attributed to their marriage practices. Theoretical calculations suggest that clan exogamy (gotra rule) greatly reduces the chance of very close consanguinity (e.g. first-cousin marriage), so any risk from endogamy alone is modest. In summary, while founder effects and drift in Brahmin subcastes can subtly shape allele frequencies, the consensus from population genetics is that ~5,000 years of these practices has not produced a measurable health crisis. Nevertheless, more targeted genetic and epidemiological studies of Saryuparin Brahmins are needed to rule out rare recessive conditions.
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>>220903076
Key Points: Gotra rules prevent marriages among known paternal kin[1], whereas caste endogamy confines gene flow to a limited community[2]. Theory (inbreeding coefficient, Ne, drift) warns that such isolation can concentrate harmful alleles, but data from Brahmin groups show only mild effects[3][5]. Large Indian genome projects confirm many founder-event signatures among caste groups[6]. Compared to the well-known risks of consanguineous (e.g. first-cousin) marriage – which raises recessive disease risk ~2–4% above baseline[8] – the clan-exogamy system is far less extreme. Tables and charts below compare marriage rules and illustrate drift dynamics. Limitations include sparse medical-genetic data on specific Brahmin subcastes and assumptions about historical population sizes.
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>>220902851
Don't mince words,
>Most studies on Brahmin populations do **not** demonstrate classical inbreeding in the sense of frequent close-kin marriages (e.g., first cousins), but they consistently show the effects of **long-term endogamy within small, closed subgroups**. Research such as surname-based and genomic analyses finds that Brahmin subcastes function as **genetic isolates**, with limited gene flow and measurable internal relatedness. While gotra exogamy reduces direct paternal-line overlap, it does not substantially expand the effective marriage pool when unions remain confined within a narrow community. Over generations, this produces **founder effects and elevated identity-by-descent**, allowing certain recessive mutations to persist and occasionally cluster. As a result, even without widespread consanguinity, some Brahmin lineages—like other highly endogamous groups—can exhibit **increased frequencies of specific inherited disorders**, reflecting population structure rather than systematic close inbreeding.
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>>220903103
Background Definitions
• Gotra (clan/lineage): A hereditary patrilineal clan tracing to a common male ancestor. By tradition, members of the same gotra do not intermarry[1]. Gotras function as exogamous units (akin to extended family groups) to prevent incest.
• Endogamy vs Exogamy: Endogamy is marrying within a defined social group (e.g. one’s caste/Jāti), while exogamy is marrying outside a group (e.g. outside one’s gotra)[1][2]. North Indian Brahmins typically practise strict sub-caste endogamy: a Saryuparin (Kanyakubj) must marry another Brahmin of the same sub-ethnic group[9]. Simultaneously, gotra exogamy forbids marriage among people sharing a patriline (approximately, paternal ancestors for 7+ generations)[1][10].
• Sub-caste (Jāti): A localized caste or sub-group with a traditional occupation or ancestry. Each Jāti is endogamous (marriages within the group)[2]. For example, Kanyakubj (Saryuparin) is a Brahmin subcaste from eastern Uttar Pradesh.
• Consanguinity: Marriages between close relatives (e.g. first-cousins). By contrast, Hindu gotra rules outlaw most immediate kin-marriages (e.g. paternal parallel cousins are same gotra)[11].
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>>220903139
Historical and Demographic Context
• Timeframe: The Brahmin gotra system is ancient (Vedic origin ~3000–2000BCE[12]). The rigid caste endogamy system crystallized much later – genetic and textual evidence suggests a broadly caste-stratified society by ~1st millenniumCE. Genome studies indicate major ANI–ASI (Ancestral North/South Indian) mixing ceased around 1900 years ago, marking the onset of strict endogamy[13][5].
• Population sizes: Saryuparin Brahmins today number in the low millions (exact census figures are hard to obtain). Even if a subcaste’s modern census is large, the effective breeding population (Ne) over time is much smaller due to endogamy and non-random mating[14]. For example, Moorjani et al. (2013) estimate founding sizes of a few hundred–few thousand for many endogamous groups. The 2025 Cell paper on 2700 Indian genomes noted “extensive homozygosity and IBD sharing” in Indians due to founder effects from endogamy[5].
• Gotra Counts: Brahmin subcastes often have dozens of gotras. Classical tradition cites 8 founding sages and 108 Brahmin gotras[1]. This provides many potential marriage partners (all non-same-gotra), which mitigates inbreeding risk.
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>>220903173
Population Genetics Theory
• Inbreeding Coefficient (F): Probability two alleles in an individual are identical by descent. For a first-cousin union, F≈0.0625, roughly doubling the baseline risk of recessive disorders[8]. Gotra exogamy prevents many close-relative matings (most first-cousins via the paternal uncle are same gotra and thus taboo[11]). Theory predicts that if all close kin are avoided (large Ne scenario), F remains near zero. Indeed, Brahmin pedigree studies found F_IS≈0[3]. In contrast, true consanguineous marriages raise F significantly and are known to elevate disease risk.
• Effective Population Size (Ne): Even a “large” community (e.g. hundreds of thousands) can have a much smaller Ne if marriages only occur within it. Lower Ne amplifies genetic drift, so allele frequencies fluctuate and rare variants can drift to higher frequency or be lost. Over many generations, an isolated group acts like a population bottleneck or repeated founder events.
• Genetic Drift & Founder Effects: In each generation, random sampling of gametes causes allele frequencies to “drift.” For example, a neutral allele with initial frequency 1% in a community with Ne~2000 can fluctuate substantially (see chart below). Over ~100 generations, drift can cause high prevalence of what were once rare recessive mutations. This underpins well-known founder diseases in endogamous populations (e.g. Tay–Sachs in Ashkenazi Jews).
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>>220903215
Genetic Structure of Indian Castes (Empirical Data)
• Caste vs Ethnicity: Multiple studies show Indian caste populations retain signals of prehistoric admixture (ANI and ASI components) but have become genetically stratified. Moorjani et al. (2013) found that mixing of these ancestries largely ceased ~2000years ago, implying near-isolation since[13]. Across India, endogamous groups have developed unique genetic signatures (long ROH segments)[5].
• Upper vs Lower Castes: Autosomal and Y-DNA data (Bamshad et al., 2001) indicate Upper-caste groups like Brahmins carry more West Eurasian ancestry. In Andhra Pradesh, Brahmins’ genetic distance to Europeans (0.013) was smaller than that of Kshatriyas (0.030) or Vysyas (0.020)[15], suggesting greater gene flow from outside. This does not directly imply inbreeding, but shows caste rank correlated with ancestral sources.
• Population Differentiation: Despite endogamy, caste groups in close geographic proximity can show only modest differentiation (F_ST low) unless grouped broadly. A 2007 study of Uttar Pradesh castes found most variation was shared and time (3000–4000y) too short to create huge differences. However, the same work noted upper castes skewed “Caucasian-like” and tribes/low castes more “Asian-like”, reflecting ancient admixture rather than recent inbreeding.
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>>220903248
• Founder Events Survey (Nature Genetics 2017): Genome-wide scans of 2,800 Indians revealed that strong founder events are widespread[6]. Out of 263 groups, 81 showed clear founder signatures (long shared haplotypes), even among populations with >1 million members. Notably, this list included several large castes (e.g. Baniya, Yadavs) and even a Brahmin group (“Brahmin Manipuri”)[6]. The study highlighted that such founder effects can greatly elevate recessive disease risk – e.g. the Vysya community has ~100-fold higher incidence of a BChE enzyme deficiency[7]. By analogy, any Brahmin subcaste with a similar history could harbor latent recessive variants, though none have yet been identified in Saryuparin Brahmins.
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>>220903288
Brahmin Subcaste and Gotra Studies
• Endogamy but No Inbreeding: The classic study by Bhatnagar & Agrawal (2002) examined Brahmin subcastes (including Kanyakubja) with strict endogamy by surname. They confirmed that gotra exogamy is generally enforced, but found 11–17% of marriages were actually within the same gotra[4]. Crucially, standard inbreeding metrics (F_IS) remained ~0[3], indicating these communities are not practicing close kin marriages despite being endogamous groups. Their analysis showed Brahmin subcastes are genetically distinct from each other (high R_ST) but each exhibits internal panmixia.
• Patrilineal Lineages: A 2025 study of Konkan Brahmins (Saraswata) demonstrated that gotras correspond very strongly to Y-chromosome lineages[16]. All Brahmins share a dominant R1a Y-haplogroup, suggesting descent from a common ancient Indo-European paternal source[17]. This implies limited paternal diversity over time, but also confirms the intent of gotra exogamy: marriage within the same paternal clan is largely taboo.
• Genetic Diversity Measures: Forensic and anthropological reports (e.g. from Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh Brahmins) show Brahmin subcastes have many alleles at typical markers, with overall heterozygosity comparable to other North Indian groups. Some allele frequencies deviate from Hardy–Weinberg equilibrium in Brahmins, hinting at subtle substructure or non-random mating, but no evidence of catastrophic homozygosity.
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>>220903319
Consanguinity versus Clan Exogamy
Traditional Indian prohibitions (gotra/sapinda) aim to avoid close inbreeding. Consanguineous marriage (e.g. first cousins) has a well-documented genetic risk: about a 2–4% absolute excess of recessive disorders in offspring[8]. By contrast, gotra exogamy is a looser rule. It blocks known paternal kin (parallel cousins), but does not guarantee that spouses share no distant ancestry. In practice, studies suggest clan exogamy suffices to keep the inbreeding coefficient extremely low (Bhatnagar found no measurable F_IS[3]). For a large Brahmin subcaste, most potential mates are non-relatives by 10+ generations, so the chance of getting two copies of a rare mutation is low.
Mental health: There is no evidence that Brahmin marriage patterns directly cause mental disorders. Unlike physical recessive traits, psychiatric conditions are usually multifactorial. The only genetic mental-health link to caste is that close consanguinity (rare among Brahmins) can unmask recessive neurological disorders. Gotra exogamy alone is not known to affect mental-health gene frequencies. However, social factors (e.g. caste-based stress) are outside the scope of genetics.
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>>220903347
Cultural Practices Affecting Gene Flow
• Hypergamy (Anuloma/Vyavahara): Traditionally, women may marry "up" into a higher sub-caste (rare for Brahmins) while men almost never marry lower. Such events introduce limited new Y-chromosomes (if a lower-caste husband’s children adopt Brahmin status via some ritual) or occasional autosomal admixture. Historically, hypergamy was uncommon enough in Brahmins that gene flow from non-Brahmins is minimal.
• Migration: Brahmin lineages have migrated regionally (e.g. Kanyakubj from Awadh to Bihar, Nepal). Local and diaspora marriage networks can enlarge the gene pool, countering drift. For example, Kanyakubj Brahmins in different states may intermarry, effectively increasing Ne.
• Adoption Workarounds: Rare customs like gauna or symbolic adoption into a different gotra exist to permit otherwise prohibited matches[18]. These have negligible genetic impact but show the strength of the exogamy taboo.
• Census and Modern Mixing: Since Independence, inter-caste marriage remains low (<5%), but urbanization has increased contacts. Modern Brahmins occasionally marry other Brahmins from distant regions or even other upper castes, introducing minor gene flow.
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>>220903376
>Conclusions and Limitations
Overall, ~5,000 years of Brahmin gotra exogamy combined with sub-caste endogamy has not led to obvious genetic health catastrophes. The traditional exogamy rule prevents the worst inbreeding (first-cousins, siblings), while the large size of Brahmin sub-castes avoids extremely small founder bottlenecks. Empirical studies confirm that inbreeding coefficients in Brahmin groups are near zero[3]. The main genetic consequence of this social structure is population substructure: Brahmin subgroups are genetically distinct and sometimes enriched for certain alleles due to historical founders. Indeed, Indian genomics finds many caste communities (including Brahmins) carry long homozygous tracts[5][6], but the health impact is modest compared to consanguinity.
Limitations: Direct data on disease prevalence in Saryuparin/Kanyakubj Brahmins is lacking. No genome-wide surveys have focused specifically on this group. Our analysis relies on extrapolating from broader caste/genome studies and theoretical models. We assume ~2000–5000 years of isolation; if endogamy was actually less strict in early periods, genetic risk would be even lower. Migration and modern out-marriage may have further diluted any genetic load. Future work should collect allele-frequency data and health records for Brahmin subcastes to identify any community-specific variants. Until then, the evidence suggests caste/gotra rules alone pose only a small additional genetic risk compared to the well-known risks of close-relative marriage[3][8].
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>>220903405
[1] [3] [4] Surname Endogamy among the Brahmin of India - Suhasini Bhatnagar, Suraksha Agrawal, 2002
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0011392102050006005
[2] [9] Jāti - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C4%81ti
[5] 50,000 years of evolutionary history of India: Impact on health and disease variation - ScienceDirect
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867425004623
[6] [7] Genetic Isolation in Casteist India Could Render Some People More Vulnerable to Disease – The Wire Science
https://science.thewire.in/science/caste-founder-events-endogamy-recessive/
[8] Cousin marriage - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage
[10] [11] [12] [18] Gotra - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotra
[13] [14] How Caste Endogamy Shaped Indian DNA | Helixline
https://helixline.in/blog/caste-endogamy-dna-india
[15] biosci-batzerlab.biology.lsu.edu
https://biosci-batzerlab.biology.lsu.edu/Publications/Bamshad%20et%20al.%202001%20Genome%20Research.pdf
[16] [17] Exploring the genetic footprints of the gotra system in the Koṅkaṇī Sārasvata Brahmins | Molecular Genetics and Genomics
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00438-025-02280-4
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>>220903119
don't worry I'll marry my nanhi jihadan if it turns out that her parents are not cousins
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>>220903435
Tldr?
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>>220903470
>>220903405
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>>220903509
This is not tldr, you quite literally posted the entire first paper here.
>This is a technical subtlety and classical inbreeding coefficient (F) measures recent relatedness but misses older shared ancestry. So you can have: Low F but still have long runs of homozygosity (ROH) and elevated identity-by-descent (IBD)
>The conclusion you quoted does not contradict the broader genetics literature; it shows a more conservative framing based on how "inbreeding" and risk are defined. In these studies, inbreeding coefficients typically measure recent consanguinity (such as first-cousin marriages), which are indeed low in most Brahmin groups due to rules like gotra exogamy. As a result, the researchers conclude there is no strong evidence of classical inbreeding or large-scale genetic health crises.
>However, the same studies also acknowledge long-term endogamy within relatively closed subcastes, which produces population substructure, founder effects, and increased identity-by-descent over generations. These effects can lead to enrichment of certain alleles and occasional clustering of recessive disorders.
>Importantly, the conclusion is also limited by a lack of direct disease prevalence data for specific subgroups

But i can't be arsed with this
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>>220903930
If you'd search the archives I've spoken up about it a few times that gotra system isn't perfect when stopping inbreeding.

But still it does its work. Better than rampant inbreeding of muslims anyways.
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hello saars i miss desi. also castration makes you taller did you know that?
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ab mai sone ja raha hu goodbye
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>>220904311
Talking from experience?
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>>220904311
How much did you grow from 5'2 after getting castrated
>>220904339
Nunnu hilakar soja
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>>220904076
I was making a finer point, at a cursory level it isn't inbreeding according to that metric. But it has similar results, specifically in smaller gene pools, like that anon's brahmin sub-caste of a sub-group of exiled "impure" brahmins.

Also, you were wrong here >>220902920
Rajouri & Poonch are Jammu zillas, and AjK is not part of the valley.
Southern states have quite easily twice the number of consanguineous marriages, than even non-kashmiri muslims of north india.
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>>220889416
Fake hadith
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>>220891930
Based
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>>220889026
Only if water's not available
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>>220889051
False
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>>220904454
ha mai 5'9 hu

>>220904479
abhi sone ja raha hu thora sa aur 4chan browse kar ne ka mood aa gaya
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>>220905473
hilal-e-thoda
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>>220905724
tu itna janke kya karega? do you want to imagine that i'm tere piche laga raha hu
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i wasn't that dinduwashed by hasina so i grew up with cartoon network, not hindi dubbed doraemon. so pardon my hindi
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wtf goes on in the top right area?
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>>220907790
That study shows gilgit baltisan as part of ladakh but doesn't take it into account, because it's governed by pakistan.
For the remaining region, it's 300k strong, half living in kargil and the rest spread across leh.
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>>220907790
you don't search for the loo in the niggalands. the loo finds you
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>>220908203
ah sorry i mean BR, JH
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bhaktbhangis btfoed
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>>220907790
yfw this is just the map of average AASI genetics per region
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how to find a wife in this randi generation
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>>220908869
Scary
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>>220888510
a Daring Synthesis
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Qrd on lenskart ? Why are honda warriors targetting them ?
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>>220913487
are madarjaat ja na induschan ya jo bhi launda lehsun website bani hai
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>>220913501
Why are you getting so uppity
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>>220913595
Kangloo thread ig
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Whatever happened to induschan
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>>220914925
Does bantu women evolve to fit bantu dicks or did bantu men evolve to have it bigger for their women?
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induschan down. indusanon? what happened?
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>>220915170
He ran out of data pack, dont have money to recharge either
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>>220915235
ain't no way lmao. use jio 5g
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Killing Gangus.
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How come indians never assimilate? Indians in Fiji for 200 years still speak Hindi.
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grok cure my insomnia
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>>220915279
sometimes Jio 5g randomly stops data and I have to put it to 4g using the low power toggle and back to 5g to start the data flowing again. Before this I used to put it to airplane mode
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>>220915170
babus of my area cut down line from 8am to 11:30
it survived on mobile hotspot during 9am, but the battery was dead soon.
anyways, it is up now
have a nice day!
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How do I into the mahabharata? I REALLY don't think I have the time to dedicate to the whole, unabridged, thing, but I'm generally against reading 'summarys' or 'abridged version' of this kind of stuff. I obviously have a particular interest in the bhagavad gita. Could I just get an unabridged version, then just read the chapter containing the bhagavad gita, or is there lots on context and shit I'd be missing out on by not having read the earlier parts of the story?
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>>220916506
Read after retirement
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>>220915532
I don't know. second-gen disapora often have this weird fascination with their ancestral homes. Part of it is yearning for an identity. as in the west, they'll always be called "indian", but in india they're "not really Indian". They romanticise the conditions they didn't grew in, that their parents fought tooth-and-nail to escape from. Ape-ing a culture they can only interact with through the lens of an outsider. Through media, movies and stories. I think the term is called ABCD?
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>>220916993
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>>220916993
what are the thin stick looking things
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>>220888510
lmao at trumpoids
>>220888562
stick to cleaning toilets pedro
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https://www.instagram.com/usmanagondal/
kino
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>>220889139
based actual brazilian
>>220889389
>>220904747
inbred arab slaves
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>>220917214
batata palha, crunchy sticks made of potato
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>>220916506
Rather read a marvel comic book than this
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good morning bhais. using this thread to practice my hindi

>>220916993
ye hara algae kya hae
>>220915719
navaratna tel = dabai
>>220916506
notebookllm mei daal de
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>>220918055
i meant to say good afternoon. force of habit
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>>220917869
like which one?
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>>220917426
they're called bhujia here
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So you guys are unbearable hindu-nationalist brahmins who attack any attempt to ignore the old ways of caste and varna rigidity, but also when I ask for help learning about hinduism you all tell me its shit and to read the bible or comic books instead?
Sick.
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https://youtu.be/aUIzIzEczZE?si=sjeeWUwrsgHzkNVp
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>>220918502
Literally nobody likes the hindu nationalist brahmins here, they are anti humanity facists who never won anything.

This country is literally built against them

>Learning about hinduism
There is nothing to learn about hinduism, just ancestral worship
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>>220918502
>>220918502
>unbearable hindu-nationalist brahmins who attack any attempt to ignore the old ways of caste and varna rigidity
not hindu-nationalist just anti-islamist if a hindu actually cared about his religion he wouldn't be lurking in 4chan
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>>220918502
>hindu-nationalist brahmins
lol
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lol Dalitesh got arrested
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>>220918502
aghori.it
drink your poison
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Anyone planning to see Micheal kino?
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https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00078198.pdf
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>>220916506
its not worth it
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>>220918502
>unbearable hindu-nationalist brahmins who attack any attempt to ignore the old ways of caste and varna rigidity
True, but they aren't brahmin, as much of an arbitrary qualifier that is, it's about tribal infighting. You fight those on lower on the totem pole, even subgroups from your own caste.
>I ask for help learning about hinduism
Watch this ghibli-esque animation
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>>220919250
you can read this too. Osamu tezuka's buddha, although i wouldn't call it hinduism
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>>220919290
monkey king mogs
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>>220919330
I prefer dragon ball
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>>220919359
damn
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How much we have moved away..
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why do all pakistanis have the beetus?
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>>220919474
They eat even more sweets tha gujjus ig
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>>220919448
Last bollywood movie i actually remember is like 3idiots
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>>220919448
Who this anti natnl
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Currybros what should I do with 5k php?
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>>220920469
That's not even 7.8k inr
Do nothing
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Just had a large 'roni 'za and 1L coke
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does anyone know an amazon like website where I can wishlist shit and send the link to others so they can buy me stuff but it doesn't reveal them that I'm from India?
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White people be like "Yea my name is Gilbert"
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>>220921624
Gofundme?
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>>220921675
Whats eating gilbert grape
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>>220921701
I don't want money, I want stuff delievered to my house without my info being exposed
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>>220921370
What can you do with 7.8k inr in India? Can I build a poorfag second hand PC with the budget iyc?
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>>220921788
dude I doubt you'll get a good monitor with that money
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Just gave my novel video game idea to chatgpt and asked how much it'll cost
>Time: 4–7 years
>Team: 20–100 people
>Budget: ₹10–100+ crore
I don't even have 1 crore, there's no gurantee anyone will play it because jeets will just pirate
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>>220921929
How much is core?
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>>220921675
what are lame/nerdy indian names? and what are cool ones?
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>>220921788
Lmao you cant even buy a ram stick with that more
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>>220921944
1 crore = 10 million
1 crore = 1,06,675.60 United States Dollar
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>>220921966
Roll
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>turn AC off for two minutes
>gets hot as fuck
wtf is going on bros
if it continues like this India will become unlivable in 25 years
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>>220922349
>25 years
Nooo atleast after 50 years pls, i will be senile by that time
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>>220921929
Dont fall for UE5slop, do some pixelated stuff or unity
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>>220917230
Based grifter
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utter fucking poolapse RR bros



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