What's the funniest country
>>220920346We're literally UK of the east.>tea lovers>stupid ass restrictions on the internet and overall censoringAnd our politicians were discussing almost exactly the same law like half a year ago.
>>220920346I genuinely would be so demoralized if I was British. How do they get out of bed in the morning?
>>220920346I personally support a smoking ban as we have an NHS. If we didnt i would say people can smoke whenever they want. The NHS really just means people dont have to worry about their bad choices
>>220920346That's a good thing tho
>>220920346They realize it will just lead to massive black market, right ? Right?
>>220920450I mean theres plenty of sensationalised stories about sweden and migrants id feel the same about sweden if i thought all those things were true
>>220920346you vill eat ze bugs and be happy o algo
>>220920346I would laugh as it doesn't apply to me but I know this will bump up the prices. New Zealand passed the same law by the way then repealed it soon after, this is a ploy by Labour so they deliberately lose the next election.
>>220920481There already is one
>>220920346Here they will be completely banned at 2040
>albanians will now not only control hard drugs, but cigarette black market as wellgrim
>>220920457Smoking is good for public finances, smokers die young(er)
>>220920457Smokers generally cost less in healthcare costs because they die sooner.
>>220920346Reform will repeal this
>>220920519Are they fighting with it ?
>>220920625They are fighting it like they are fighting hard drugs, they catch a few small fish.
>>220920646I predict Prohibition fate for that bill
>>220920551>>220920565Not with all the money spent on cancer treatment and chemo. Palliative care etc
>>220920457>NHSThe most overhyped thing that Britishers think is unique, just like Japs think "muh 4 seasons" is uniquely Japanese.OBJECTIVELY "da NHS" is:>slower>more bureaucratic>more expensive>more nepotistic>has worse outcomes both in regular and edge casesAll countries have a version of "muh NHS". Not an argument.
>>220920654they clearly studied that outcome and will be wiser this timeright?
>>220920450It’s all very grim
>>220920684NHS Scotland is better than NHS England and Wales
>>220920733Vote in your local election on the 7th.
>>220920457this. why should people pay for retards getting lung cancer?
>>220920728yes
>>220920762Car exhaust fumes have already made lung cancer ubiquitous though.
>>220920759I certainly will :)
>>220920450Why do you think emo music is so big over there?
>>220920684Not really? You have insurance models theres right? Germanys system is very different to ours. I think our cancer treatment is some of the best in the world.>>220920752This isnt true NHS Scotland is the second worse after wales. Devolution was a pointless mistake
>>220920666Age is a much bigger risk factor for cancer than smoking. Old non-smokers get cancer too
>>220920882The idea is you work all your life and pay into national insurance so you dont have to worry about payment in the future. How does the insurance model even work with the over 80s
>>220920918You pay for private insurance (with a premium) like everywhere else on earth
>>220920346>Prohibition is LE BAD and it does not LE WORK because the alcohol, tobacco and firearms lobbies say so
>>220921052Prohibition is bad because I should have the right to poison myself if I so wish.
>>220920865Emo music hasn't been big for fucking years mate what are you on about
>>220921233I thought it died in 2010.
>>220920666You haven't seen the cigs price which is 90% tax. If it would be morally feasible goverment would hand out cigs to children, it makes that mich sense economically
>>220921259Sounds about right.
>>220920942Not here
>>220920457Smoking is bringing in an extra 8bn annually in taxesIts costing the nhs 3bn annually
>>220921392That's a retarded way to look at it. If they don't spend it on cigarettes they will inevitably spend it on something else, and therefore the tax revenue will stay roughly the same
That's unironically a good thing.
Okay, nanny state aside, this is based. Smokers should be seen on the same level as Indian street shitters
>>220920346This is just going to prop up the black market more. People are already buying £5 smokes from their Eastern Euro friends coming back from holiday lol.Banning it just makes it more appealing. The only way to truly curb it is to show really traumatising things, like a field trip to the lung cancer ward to see all these old chronic smokers dying in real time or to let kids dissect a healthy lung and a smokers lung.Its those things that will actually put kids off it for life.
>>220920346Why not everyone?
>>220920457In that case they should ban everything else that potentially harms you. What is alcohol good for? It objectively just damages your body. Caffeine has to go. Sugar, any sport that is too extreme like skateboarding or anything where you might potentially injure yourself. Make it illegal to be fat
>>220920346.
>>220922143>What is alcohol good for? It objectively just damages your bodyAlcohol is to an extent a luxury for the elite. Just stop selling stuff for the common rabble. They're the ones who overdo it. >Caffeine has to go.Based>SugarBased>Make it illegal to be fatBased. Fat people are the biggest (pun) drain on society
>>220921052Prohibition is bad because it protects retarded people(allegedly) from themselves.
>>220921172Smoker poison others with their disgusting addiction, fuck them and fuck you
What a about snus? It's banned in the EU for some reason outside of Sweden and Finland
>>220923340invaluable cultural heritageno touch
>>220923479thank u Sweden, I have stopped smoking and gained a few years of life to do something with
>>220923479Snus seems like the best from the tobacco products. No smell, no lung cancer, no passive smoking, no sediment. Our president was caught taking it and it was made a big deal as if he was taking cocaine, but no one criticizes politicians when they drink and smoke. It's weird
>>220922751Umm just ban smoking in closed spaces then? When you're outdoors who's forcing you to stand next to a smoker?
>>220920646why would anyone smuggle cigarretes when it carry the same risk as cokes
>>220920346>Governmentdoes everything in its power to make you as miserable as possible>Young bruvs can't even smoke a fag anymore to cope with that shitGrim innit?
>>220920457Collectivist drones, sad!
