Is there really any reason to learn Japanese? At this point I've committed a few hundred hours into learning the language at this point and even though I can generally grasp the basic structure I still have to look up a lot of words. I mean on one hand I like Japanese things, I've enjoyed a lot of the stuff that comes from the country, but also I don't like the Japanese learning community, to the point where I feel downright ashamed of admitting to learning it, and I feel like Japanese society is incredibly dysfunctional and also just very racist in general to anyone who is a "foreigner." The piracy controversy really made me rethink my decisions here. So I don't know is it really worth spending thousands of hours on a language basically only spoken in one country, with an incredibly xenophobic population that doesn't like anyone who is non-Japanese and is very collectivist, and just takes a long time to learn just for anime and video games? (And other forms of entertainment I guess but modern Japanese movies don't seem very appealing).
>>220959761they're only xenophobic to non blue eyed blonde gaijins
>>220959820Every country has racism, but Japan has a smug sense of superiority over everyone else. It's kinda like the chosen people thing with the Jews
>lil bro is thinking teleologicallylmao
>>220959761I've tried to learn a little German over the past years and wonder if this will be me in the future if I end up committing too much to it. So it's probably easy for me to say that the rational reason to learn a new language is if you're planning to move there or otherwise actually interact with people who speak it. Otherwise it's just meant for your own enjoyment and curiosity, innit?
>>220959983I started learning it on the basis that since there was Japanese content I already liked it would be easier to make myself immersed in it. I dabbled in Chinese beforehand but I realized at the time I wasn't interested in Chinese media in general (largely out of ignorance). I don't have plans to move there, I'd like to talk to them but it feels hopeless if they just think you're a filthy 害人 who breaks the law.
i want to learn russian to read musicology papersi don't know what japan's academic specialty is
Depends on how obsessed you are with whatever jap shit is making you learn it. If you want to marry or move over there etcetera.
>>220960237I guess you could cut the time you spend on learning it to maintain some level of it without burning yourself out due to the feeling of discouragement? I think I do that at times
>>220960237So if the media is all you were drawn to then what's the issue? Otaku aren't viewed well in Japan either, so you'd have spent all your time learning the language just to hide your hobbies from society anyway. I'm convinced the foreign weebs who learn Japanese just to view the media like the media more than any otaku in Japan.
>>220959761I can think of one reason
>>220959761japanese media like movies and songs are pretty good, the newer stuff is pretty shitif you can do it do it, it's good for a resume
>>220959761You're not cute
>>220959761You can watch anime without subtitles, read manga in Japanese, and have deeper, more meaningful interactions with Japanese people.
>>220960457I could try that>>220960846I just felt it would be intrinsically easier to learn a language if I liked the content in it
>>220959761bump
I'm an ESL but I don't like shit posting like f-words :/
>>220959761Japanese people will love you for being passionate about their language and culture. Filthy westerners gaijins will hate you regardless of how far you are. I can parse vns but I need to cram the specific vocabulary to read fluently.T. Currently at 7500 words, learning 100 words a day and grinding visual novels like crazy for months.
>>220964878Do they care about you illegally downloading stuff?
There's no "reason" to do anything, you can talk yourself in and out of any goal. If you want to learn Japanese - you'll look for excuses to learn it; if you don't want to learn it - you'll be looking for excuses to quit. Observe your own feelings, be honest with yourself and figure out where they are coming from. Perhaps you got spooked by the amount of hours to fluency, that feeling is uncomfortable and you need the security of knowing that there's a prize at the end waiting for you that makes it all worth it somehow. But that's a trap, forget about future rewards, ask yourself whether learning Japanese brings you any enjoyment in the present moment. If it does, you've already received plenty of compensation and your efforts were not wasted. If at any moment Japanese stops being fun, you can easily quit, like a game that you've exhausted and you can't think of any new challenges to squeeze more fun out of it.
I really struggle sometimes with Japanese, I don't know if I should do it or not.My main passion is French and French literature, mainly 19th and 20th century literature yet I'm also studying Japanese for some reason.Honestly a part of me just likes the language and the challenge it provides and I want to master it but then reading Japanese literature is going to take forever.Classical Japanese would be interesting to learn as well and my top 3 favourite directors are all Japanese
>>220959972>It's kinda like the chosen people thing with the Jews>Chosen people>朝鮮人Never say this to Japanese person...
>>220966020No they don't
>>220959761>Is there really any reason to learn Japanese?By learning Japanese, the Americanized anime characters you know will become true to their original versions.
