Brazilians niggas be like "Wow Portuguese is a hard language and you learned it? Congratulations!" to foreigners who learned Portuguese. It's quite an easy language desu
ever since I found out Portuguese only has half the amount of words as French, Italian, and Spanish I've been looking at them weird and kind of want to study native speakers
>>220988052Irei separar sua cabeça dos ombros
What the fuck are they doing to my boy Jonny?
Brazilians love to feel "special", so they push this cope that "Portuguese is da hecking hardest language on earth, we are so special!!" So they feel more unique.Brazilians are retarded, they think Brazil produces every single food item on earth, world's farm o algo, obsessed Americans would starve if not for us, we are so special!
>>220988073Except it doesn't.Anyway, it's next to impossible to "count" the number of words in an language. All such counts are pseudoscience, usually based on dictionaries and such, i.e., innacurate.
>>220988103Why do you all hate on firstie vegans/vegetarians for turning the rainforests into soy fields when most of the soy grown in Brazil is used to feed livestock?
>>220988111then why do you need english to get your point across, don't be shy
>>220988052There’s a big difference between written and spoken Portuguese, and Brazilians assume you’re learning it the same way we do in school, focusing on grammar instead of the basics. We can usually tell right away when someone isn’t a native speaker, because most people never fully learn all the sounds. You’re not at a native level if you say things like “massan” or “pau” instead of “pão.” We usually don’t point it out though, because we’re trying to be polite
>>220988126We are retarded cucksWe use english Terms even when there's a Portuguese word for it
>>220988138>massanWhat's that?
>>220988123Never heard about that, lefties think it was work of the white devil (which it is)
>>220988052Du, Dudu & Edu is a funny show
>>220988098He is a son of a shepard
>>220988138>massanHuh??
>>220988126We don't. All languages have barbarisms, including English. You sound low IQ and monolingual.
>>220988138>>220988052Also when you feel like you’ve got Portuguese reading down, give Os Lusíadas and Os Sertões a try. They’re school reading for us>>220988159>>220988181Maçã
Why are you learning Portuguese
>>220988201Guimarães Rosa's novels are a hard task for foreigners. He did invented a lot of words in his novels.
>>220988208Because I learned Spanish and it's right there.
>>220988208Bunda
>>220988052Then why do literally all foreigners sound like shit and you can always tell they are PSL?
>>220988268Same reason why Brazilians tend to sound like fags when they speak English - Interference from their native language
>>220988208like >>220988222 said, although I changed my mind even though you guys actually have enough media to justify learning it "just because".I can already understand "centro-oeste" natives because they sound crispy, but Sicilian sounds closer to Spanish to me, even more so than catalan, so I just now study Italian but lean more towards southern stuff
>>220988073Word quantity is a meme desu, it's not like a native French speaker from the ghetto of Marseille or a Parisian Banlieu is using any complex vocabulary past the 4000 words you usually need for daily convo.Then there's shit like German where they go "oh you poop and you piss at the same time, ja? Wir haben a wort for that, it's Shitpissen!"
>>220988290It's not the accent that’s the problem, it's that most people don’t actually speak it right. If you miss the nasal sounds or mess up the genders, it sounds off. Portuguese is super nasal, so those mistakes really stick out.
>>220988344Oh well that makes sense. The nasal sounds in Portuguese don't exist in most languages as far as I know. Genders are a familiar concept for many languages but different objects have different genders depending on the language. Or you can have English which doesn't have grammatical gender at all
>>220988052how the fuck do I make the nasal sounds
>>220988403Just try and speak like we do, Aussie English is nasal asf after all lel
>>220988111he's probably counting the lemmas needed to be "fluent"
>>220988566No, he's probably repeating some bullshit he read on twitter once ou algo.
Now that you understand the language are you enjoy the music?
>>220988613Yes. I enjoy MPB and some Samba. I think Sertanejo and Funk Carioca is dog shit though.
>>220988097mas a cabeça fica no pescoço
>>220988613funking
>>220988052they're mad everyone learns spanish instead
>>220988344>it's not the accent that's the problem, it's the accentmost nobel prize worthy brazilian intellectual
gordo careca
>>220988290You can find many Brazilians who speak English with no accent, but you can never found foreigners who speak Portuguese like a native ever
>>220989321>You can find many Brazilians who speak English with no accentLMAO
>>220989348That´s true.Seehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iewQ45wJ7JA
>>220989389you will never speak english correctlyyou will always be a mexican
>>220989282You CAN’T just ignore nasal sounds and diphthongs in Portuguese. They actually change the meaning of words, so people might not understand you at all. Regional accents don’t sound like foreigners either. If you speak like that, you’ll stand out in a bad way, like asking for “pau” when you meant to order something to eat
>>220989461save for chinese, tonal languages are primitive
>>220989493Your IQ is rather low.
>>220989493Portuguese isn’t a tonal language. These examples aren’t about tone, they involve entirely different sounds. Words like “mao” and “mão”, “nau” and “não” and "avo", “avó” and “avô” differ in pronunciation, not just pitch
>>220989321i dont think this is inherent to the language. i think its that there are far more portuguese speakers learning english since being a child, compared to english-speakers learning portuguese since they were a child.anyone learning any language at the age of 30 is probably fucked in terms of accent development.
>>220989461E se eu realmente queira pau de verdade? Isso me faz baitola??
>>220989620sounds tonal to me
>>220989651This. No one learns portuguese at an early age barring people raised in Luso cultures as well as diaspora.
>>220989668yep. the only portuguese i know who speak English, exactly like americans...guess what, they were born in america or lived there for several years as children and moved back to portugal.
>>220988103That's cute desu
>>220988052>It's quite an easy language desuIt's easy to learn but you'll probably never sound native
>>220988403ã = un as in hunterẽ = en as in vendorĩ = inõ = onũ = oon as in goonão = un as in hunter + o as in thoughõe = on + ehBrazilians, in most cases, don't differentiate between 'an' and 'am', they would sound the same in 99% of cases. I'm sure in some random accent or some random word there is an exception, or in Portugal/Angola/etc
>>220990993Also, in some accents, 'em' gets pronounced as 'en-in'. Like the word 'bem' becoming 'ben-in'Also, I remembered a good example of the 'm' sound. The word 'uma' (one, feminine) gets pronounced as 'oon-ah', 'oon-ma' or 'ooma' depending on the accent. In some old texts you can even find it being written as 'ũa'
OI manoThat's the only Brazilian I know
>>220989620ah eh ih oh uh, or english using ay ee eye owu uwh everything is just bantu clicking tier
>>220990908And?
>>220997060I agreed with you and already added what I had to add, there is no and
>>220989651Don't know about Portuguese, but there are plenty of Brazilians who learned it as adults and sound native
>>220998732I learned Portuguese as an adult and I have an accent, although it’s quite light and easily understood. The Brazilians who learned English as adults all have a noticeable accent in my experience
>>220989652Sim.
