Would people push the red or blue button in your country?
>>221012710So, this is basically high-trust vs. low-trust society, right? Since we're low-trust, I'd say red would prevail
>>22101271099% of brazilians wouldn't even understand this question
>>221012710every xitterchud that spends their time talking about developing a "high trust" society started arguing for why they would press the red button.Also, the fact that the blue button won after going around in the "might makes right" twitter sphere is embarrassing for these knuckle dragging chuds that think that the rest of society are mindless apes like them.
>>221012728>>221012773there is no benefit at all in pressing blue, if anyone presses blue they deserve to die
>>221012825How's the latest HOI4 patch?
>>221012710What’s the average race of blue button pushers and red button pushers? I won’t push the red button if as I suspect they’re mostly third world browns
>>221012710this is a terrible thought experiment. the "unethical option" is supposed to be unethical and expose dubious moral characters. if everyone presses red everyone survives. any logical person will recognize this. there's no moral downside to pressing red. telling your loved ones to press blue places them at risk, while telling them to press red saves them whichever color wins. there's no moral dilemma.
>>221012710Idgi if you press the red button you always survive so rationally speaking everyone should press the red button there's zero reason to press the blue button
>>221012773What are you on about, incoherent post Spend less time on twatter
>>221012710If you are dumb enough to push blue you deserve to be removed from the genepool
Some people will press blue no matter what, and the only way to save them is press blue too
I wanna press blue but irl I'd probably press red out of fear that others got scared too
give me the button to end it. i've had enough.
>>221012710The question is phrased to make people think about the first condition and has language like "everyone survives" That is unironically why the result is the way it is and it's not deeper than that If you phrased it like "This is the 'press red game.' If even less than 50% presses red then everyone wins. If you press red then you win. But if you press blue then you have a chance to lose." Then that would change the outcome of the poll If you think you're smarter than a xittertard then you are fart huffing. Obviously you are smarter than a xittertard. That this retarded poll has captured your attention is a bigger indictment of you than trolling their poll is
It's so funny watching self-centered people wrestle with the idea of thinking about other people.
>>221012710Why doesn't everyone just press the red button?
>>221013610Because of the phrasing. The first instinct of many is to treat blue as the selfless option and red as the selfish option. Most people, if they spend even half a second thinking, will realize that it would be better if everyone just pressed red. But the phrasing immediately primed them to the blue option due to their mindset (or the mindset they pretend to have with no skin in the game), and their mind will move onto rationalizing the choice. The most common form of this is "there are other people who might've pressed blue, it would be selfish not to try to save them". The reason why you can tell that is often a mere rationalization rather than an actual reason behind their choice is that if the phrasing of the question was different (ie something that made it clearer that blue is about wishing for your own death), they would most likely switch options.
>>221012773How is it might makes right?Just call the buttons "survive" and "die" and the outcomes would be everyone presses red, everyone survives, everything is moral
>>221012773im not even a might makes right guy why the fuck am i risking my life for retards that won't press the obvious?it sounds like a retarded risk for no fucking reason at all
>>221012710i'd push red. only because all the elites of society would while expecting everyone else to push blue.
>>221013050you will be lefti in the world full of indians and americans there are no downsides to pressing blue
>>221012728it's collectivist vs individualist
>>221012710>Jump in front of a train and hope enough people join you so you can stop it from running you overor>Just don't jump in front of a train
>>221012710Blue button pressers get laid, reds dont
>>221012710It's an imperative to press blue because while well-meaning but naive people from civilized countries would press it while savage third worlders would not hesitate to choose red, and we cannot risk the further demographic degradation of human civilization.
>>221019287>well-meaning but naive people from civilized countriesThese are exactly the people who lead our civilized nations to ruin though. If they stopped existing, we could wholly get rid of the third world because nobody would be left to complain about it.
>>221019287It's actually an evolving question because every cycle of consideration adds more people to the blue pile.Do you want to save the naive people?Do you want to save the people who want to save the naive people?Do you want to save the people who want to save the people who want to save the naive people?Do you want to sa... you get the idea.
>>221012710Red is the incel button, and I don't mean it in some trivial sense of "poopoo incel virgin xD". Women would in general choose blue and if red wins we would witness the male-to-female ratios that would make the current dating and marriage market look like a paradise for men, it would be a absolute carnageIt might be a decent deal if you're gay I guess
The downside of pressing red is that you kill people you fucking bugmen
>>221019320You would become the third world yourself though because there are no well-meaning people left and only the ones with the short sighted self-centered thirdie mindset would be left and they would quickly turn any country into a shithole.
>>221012710Why shouldn't I expect all people to just press red and save themselves without any downsides instead pressing blue and taking risk and expecting other people to sacrifice themselves together for no reason? This is not a zero-sum game.
>>221019102Francois with the unexpected accurate analysis
>>221018938We should hunt MIGAcels for sport
>>221012710>press red>either you die or you wipe out all undesirables>if you happen to survive you should now be surrounded by fellow chuds>unite and nuke the low iq thirdies who voted red>world peace achived
>>221012710funny how people keep talking about low trust poor thirdies would pick red when high iq, politicians and upper class people will definitely press red without hesitation at all.t. knower
>>221013050>>221013164It's true but ironically the vast majority of "people" who would press red would be brown so I guess I would press blueI wouldnt want to live in a 99% brown world
>>221012710Red guarantees survival, so I would press red. In fact, if everyone pressed red, everyone would survive. Seems pretty obvious what should be done.
Lads I’ve figured out a problem>press red>wake up in a world with zero (0) women
>>221020607>surely if we just kill all people we dislike we will run out of enemies at some pointLeast retarded chud
20th time this thread has been made.
>>221018771>>221020733So under that assumption, why are whites such low-T cornballs?>WERE GONNA SAVE HUMANITY THROUGH THE POWA OF FRIENDSHIP TOGETHER, BY PRESSING BLUE! ACK-
>>221020777>>surely if we just kill all people we dislike we will run out of enemies at some pointUsually how it works yes. Exterminate enemy tribe and they won't be a problem anymore.
>>221020847Based Jaegerist chad
>>221020847>J-JUST ONE MORE GENOCIDE, JUST ONE MORE, PLEASE!!! THIS TIME IT WILL WORK!Millionth time the charm, huh?
>>221012710This is just a dark triad filter. If you press red, you're one or more of the three of narcissist, psychopath, and sociopath.The reason is that you're trying to game theory how to survive, but it's very easy to survive. Press the blue button. So if you press the red button, you either you want to kill people (psychopath/sociopath) or you don't care if others survive as long as you survive yourself, and you think most would press red because you assume everyone is as selfish as you (narcissist).In most cases, red would be roughly less than a third of the population.
>>221020774Faggot>>221020797High IQHigh trust societiesJesusLow TI guessSame reason why whites vs the world would win in two weeks but we rather die out and be replaced by two digits IQ brown masses
We live in a society
>>221020899Real genocie has never been tried
>>221020982cide fuck
>>221020925Everyone would survive if they pressed red.
>>221012710>Press the red button alongside all the people with self-survival instinct, brain to think for a couple seconds and the violent third worlders>Kill off all the naive bleeding heart retards with suicidal empathy>Vote to deport and keep away all the violent third world scum from my country now that the bleeding heart retards are gone
>>221013050>no down sides>murders half of everyone, including his friends and family>"meh, they're not me, so i don't care." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯The irony of that meme is that the poster is always the left side thinking they're on the right side.
>>221018938>>221012728Normal person with empathy vs. narcissistic psychopath.
>>221021076Technically yes, but not everyone will push the same button. Many wouldn't even want to live in a world where red prevails because it would be a world of self-centeredness and disregard for others. In reality, most will push blue because they have empathy. The red button is only to see if you're have dark triad traits and identify people who lack empathy.So here's the kicker. If you now feel motivated to say you'd push blue, not because you actually would, but rather because you don't want people to identify you as something bad, that's also a trait of the dark triad. Manipulativeness.
>>221021269> Technically yes, but not everyone will push the same buttonEveryone should be encouraged to press red though. There are literally no downsides to pressing red. If you press blue, you risk death for literally no reason.
>>221021171No, it's idealist vs realist. Are you willing to bet your life on there being more people in the world who want good for all or people who just want to survive to live the next day?
i thought in pressing the blue button to kms
>>221021397I'm willing to bet it. If I die I die
>>221021376Not everyone will push the same button. That's just a fact.
i dont have MUCH faith in the people of this country but i can only imagine theyre smart enough to push blue
>>221021397>me me me>everyone is self-centered like meThis is dark triad rationalization. I'd easily bet my life. The majority will press blue every time. Dark triad is a comparatively small part of the population and will always lose a popular vote.
I abstain
>>221020925its actually a retard filter, you only press red if you think youre special and a sigma lone wolf, but at bare minimum, half the population also has to think thatso really, picking red leaves you with half the population that can't think 2 steps ahead
>>221012710I would press the red button if I was sure that no one would know that I had pressed the red button.
>>221022030Well, yes. You could never get everyone in the world to press the same button, so a lot of people will die if red button wins. It's really the only outcome of convincing more that 50% to press red. Dark triad tend to be retarded in this regard, because their mental illness tends to overshadow all rationality.It would be interesting to see this question posed to different social groups. It would be easy to see which groups attract dark triad traits.
Blue pressers are willing to risk ending the human experiment to save people too stupid to run a basic game theory in their mind.
>>221021135my friends and family aren't dumb retards, who would push blue. as for the rest, they can get rekt for all I care. everyone over the IQ of 90 would push red. only the OMG WE'RE TOTALLY LIKE FRICKIN MARVEL HEROES Y'ALL types would push blue. the people who actually matter would survive and that's the end of it.
>>221012728>high-trust vs. low-trust societySuch things don't existIt's sociology for incels
>>221023102btw it's literally the same as the covid vaccine dilemma.it's a virus with a 99.9% survival rate among people under 70. if you don't take the vax, you still have incredibly good chances of surviving an infection. if you take it, your already insanely high chances MAY go higher, but you also MAY get adverse side effects. and as of 2026, we all know that they were harmful and we have court rulings to prove it. people who's push blue are the same people who got triple vaxxed and got heart attacks at the ripe age of 26.
>>221012710Red>b-but ur a le murder-Not my problem, why didn't you press Red too?There are literally no downsides to pressing Red, so why would you press Blue?>b-but-NotMyProblem
>>221023316this
>>221012728Its a humiliation ritual question. By pressing blue, you terminally devalue your own life in a guaranteed vain attempt to save stupid subhumans who also pressed the blue button. You throw your life away purely because other low iq cretins dont understand what the best option is.By pressing red, you are a categorically smarter person as you don't throw your own life away for no reason and join other red button pushers who passed the iq filter survival test.
>>221020278>noo you HAVE to trust 50% of the world with your life or you are... le... evil....
>>221022011>Dark triad is a comparatively small part of the population and will always lose a popular vote.It's also the reason they will always be the actual candidates you're popularly voting for, sheep. Lmao
>>221023219>dark triad
>>221012710Regardless of how many people hit which button, everyone will complain that the process was rigged and stolen, that people voted who shouldn't have, that people didn't vote who should have, etc.
>>221012710Everyone who isn't a total retard chooses the red button. Therw's literally no downside.
>>221021135Are you pretending to not understand the question?
>>221023393Not the same at all. By taking the vaccine you decreased the chance of passing the virus on, and nobody chose to get infected. In the blue/red scenario you literally choose to either live or risk death. There's zero downside to red, only downside to blue.
>>221012756Made me chuckle
>>221012710At first I thought red because there are too many people in this world especially indians Then I realized indians will press the red button and we will end up in a world with disproportionately more indiansSo I choose blue
>>221021135>murders half of everyone, including his friends and familyjust press the red button and nothing bad will happen to you
>>221024750most people seem to be unable to understand the question. they seem to assume that everyone but them is forced to press blue against their will.
>>221012710>the only way death is even on the table is if someone presses the blue button and yet you have all of these sanctimonious dimwits calling you a narcissistic monster for wanting to press the red button
>>221027051judging by the discussion on other websites I think the fundamental problem is that too many oversocialized faggots are completely unable to parse the concept of personal responsibility. every action must be taken as part of the collective. you can't let even one retard die, everyone has to risk their lives to save them.which just makes me more red-pilled. people who think like that actively deserve to die, they ruin everything in society.
>>221012710most logical option is that everyone just presses red
>>221027694but what if some idiot presses blue? they might die! I can't admit that I would ever be willing to let even one random stranger die because I am a performatively moral person! so I have to press blue! and now since my life is on the line, you also have to press blue because otherwise you're killing me!
>>221027736>world turns whiteruuuuh you wont like my answer
>>221012710Everyone that had pressed the blue button gets to teleport and live in Japan where they'll be magically accepted by the high trust hive like they were always Japanese while everyone that pressed the red gets teleported to the heart of some African jungle where they'll have to survive and find food by themselves while fighting off jaguars, lions, malaria, dangerous rabid chimps and machete-wielding niggers with hyper-aids.
>>221013285Only good post itt
>>221013285no there are actual honest to god bluepillers out there, mostly leftists. they see themselves as responsible for the hypothetical niggers and braindead boomers who would get confused and press blue.here we can just openly admit that retards who fuck up a task this simple deserve to die, but in many social circles that's not an idea they are allowed to entertain. obviously pressing red is the nash equilibrium game theoretically, but when you introduce performative morality and virtue signaling in the mix the calculus changes.
>>221027694>>221027736>one flag is just the other flag but darkerwhat causes this
>>221028353wouldn't you like to know
>"Yeah bro blues deserve to die. I only want to live in a society with red button pressers."Enjoy your society full of niggers and indians.
>>221028413Wait until he finds out about Netherlands and Luxemburg.
>>221012710I’m a libertarian racist chud but I would press the blue button without any fear or aversion, and I don’t understand why this thought experiment provokes political implications or controversy.Humans are animals born with a very collectivist and “altruistic” instinct, even though it mostly manifests in negative ways. I believe that those who think red will win are the naive ones who have no interest in politics or the study of human behavior and are completely detached from the real world.
>>221028253They don't think they're responsible for niggers, or any social justice in general. If they did then they would be tending gardens in black neighborhoods and working alongside nuns in soup kitchens, they would be building houses, tutoring black kids, etc etc. At the heart of it I think they don't think they're responsible for anything. They loathe and resent the implication of the concept of duty or responsibility entirely. They just hate you in particular the way a middle class English dinner party guy hates the working class Englishman. It will never make sense. And their hatred goes so deep they will leverage niggers to make everyone around them as miserable as they are in their own minds. Judas Iscariot for example got really pissy with Mary of Bethany when she annointed Christ's feet with expensive oil. >Erm, why aren't you giving this to the poor, huh? Have you heard of the Beatitudes, bitch? It was a projection of his guilt as he was ideating betraying his leader for dirty money.
>>221012756Wrong.99% of Brazilians would press the button that matches the color of their soccer team.
>>221028866you will never comprehend the profound irony of your post.
>>221028967Minorities will mostly press the red button. You are a nigger.
>>221028935>those who think red will winred wins regardless of the outcome you dumb idiot
>>221029003so your solution to that is to press the blue button and wipe out white people from the planet?
>>221028866You live in a society where the blue pressers keep importing infinite niggers and indians.
>>221029006What I mean is in the voting matchup
>>221012710I won't press either.
>>221029099only smart anon ITT
>>221029040>>221029047More whites will press the blue button. If reds win then more whites end up dying than minorities. Simple as that.
>>221026486What if I have empathy and am not a completely self-centered psychopath?
>>221029131Clicking “Nothing” is literally the same as clicking “Blue" in a worst way.
Red is not murdering, i actively encourage everyone to press red, i want them to save themselves and i pray they come to their senses and press red, blue pressers are suicidal its like someone jumping into a train and blaming the train for existing.Just because i dont trust society does not mean i want people to die
>>221018938this is a retarded thought experiment because if everyone presses red then everyone also survives
>>221012710There is no downside to everyone collectively pressing redThe 10% that will object will die because they have no survival instincts
>>221012710>>221012728What prevents everybody from pressing the red button and everybody survives?
>>221012710Thats retarded why would anyone press red
>>221029163Literally nobody dies if everybody presses red.
>>221029907Nothing, if everyone just presses the red button nothing happens and everyone gets to go on with their day. It’s actually a pretty terrifying thought experiment because it shows how easy it is to influence people into joining a literal suicide pact through simple emotional manipulation.
>>221012710Sociopaths btfo total empathy Chad victory. IT'S SO BACKBILLIONS MUST LIVE
>>221015073>>221015349Stop being a black.
>>221030104>>221030112Literally nobody dies if just over half of people press the blue button whereas your "solution" requires everyone in the entire world to be a psychopath in order to live. You're just evil psychopath niggers.
>>221029163>>221029218>>221030170>>221030246You, and everyone else on earth, are offered a poison pill. You can choose not to take the pill and walk away. Absolutely nothing will happen to you and you will continue living your life in peace. If you do take the poison pill, you will obviously die because the pill is poisoned. However, if over 50% of other people also take the pill, everyone will receive an antidote that will cure the poison. Do you take the poison pill?
>>221030246by default there is no one forced to press blue in the first placehow is red the psychopath option if the mental gymnastics to pressing blue would require thinking about what someone who pressed blue might be thinking about the other people who pressed blue might've thought
ok but what if there are individuals less than 50% of the population that want to die but their country has not legalized euthenasia yet and they either have no ability to kill themselves or there may be legal/social ramifications for suicide that may affect their familyideally, if everyone presses red, and everyone who wants to die presses blue then we end up maximizing selflessness for everyone
>>221012710Why wouldn't everyone press the red button? That way nobody dies.
>>221031416Because it's a reverse "faustian bargain"They attempt suicide to not be labelled as sociopaths because the modern moral framework works like that
>>221019287And then well meaning but naive people will then proceed to flood our countries with evil thirdies. Traitors are worse than invaders.
>ayys show up and transplant everyone with red and blue button on on their arm>present dilemma on televised broadcast>drama ensues>results come in and there more reds than blues, blues freak out about impending death>turns out ayys were lying all along, kill reds instead>all the sociopaths, politicians and scumbags are dead, peace returns upon the worldwould be a kino movie
>>221012728It's retard society vs non-retard society. There is no downside to pressing the red button. The only people pressing blue are the ones too retarded to read and understand a simple question.
>>221030384noi just walk offyou think im going to stop people from killing themselves?
>>221031416Why wouldn't everyone press the blue one? Same logic here.
>>221031995Because it's risky. There is no risk involved for anyone by pressing the red button.
>>221012728You are a fucking retard
>>221012710>You either press the Don't Die button or the Die if less than 50% pressed the Die buttonidgi. Are people just suicidal? Why would you bet your life on a coin flip? For literally no gain?
>>221030384>>221030104Of course. I forgot that people high in psychopathy and sociopathy usually have an IQ around 70. So you're simply not going to understand basic human empathy.
>>221031787Why wouldn't aliens just kill all sociopaths, politicians and scumbags to begin with. If they lied about that they'd get at least 50% innocents
>>221032232because the people who want everyone to push blue are so psychopathic that they have no empathy for people who might've pushed red for other reasons. if someone can misunderstand the question and press blue then the same can be said for red.
>>221032232the aliens aren't omnipotent and need find out who's evil (ignore that they can put buttons on 8 billion people)
>>221031787>people who care about themselves and are responsible/self sufficient need to be murdered and will be punished by a mysterious outside force >people who don’t value their own lives and blindly follow the “cause” will be rewarded in the end, even if they are literally lining up to kill themselves it’s ok because they will win anyways This is literally the mindset of an Arab doing a suicide bombing. Religion (especially the Abrahamic ones) is a mind virus
>>221032645Yeah normal people who get scared and want to save their own lives are all evil sociopaths. Only people who gladly kill theirselves for the “cause” are good people and deserve to live… Are you listening to yourself? You are literally advocating for a Jonestown-esque suicide cult and considering it a good thing. The aliens in your scenario are probably planning on destroying the human race and doing so by killing anyone who would stand up for themselves first
>>221032645this but it's not aliens it's just roko basilisk bait
>>221012710I would push the red button if I got to choose which people died, otherwise blue.
What if you had to choose whether your best friend lives, or dies?
>>221032184>nooo you have to save literal retards, if you don't you're, uh, retarded!I'll remind you again that no one dies if everyone presses redyour popsci buzzwords do not constitute an argument
>>221032184nobody has to die or even risk anything. just don't do it. how hard is it to grasp this? you keep assuming other people have already pressed blue but they can just press red. you can just press red.I am going to press red. if you die it's your own fault.
>>221031995the only nash equilibrium in an imperfect information version of this game is everyone pressing red.
>>221031911blue button appears to be exclusively for people who have constructed an identity around sanctimonious moral grandstanding.
>>221030384of course nobody is going to choose to take the pill if the question is phrased this way, but the problem is that with the original question a lot of people are going to choose the irrational option, and by pressing red you're contributing to condemning those people to death for the crime of being naive. on the other hand, by pressing blue you're only risking your life while increasing the chance of everyone surviving. I'd still press red but I acknowledge it's the selfish option
I like to think humanity is essentially good in a vacuum. I refuse to accept Rousseau's tenets.
>>221035514>you're condemning those people to death for the crime of being naive. good. species just got stronger.
>>221020278>downside
i just want people to die. if i have a chance to contribute to the death of possible future nemeses and rivals then i'll take it
Living in a red button society is a fate worse than death.
Pressin blue is risking your life to save people who have needlessly put themselves in danger to save people who have needlessly put themselves in danger to save people who have needlessly put themselves in danger...It's not "empathy/collectivism..." vs. "individualism/egoism," it's just being retarded vs. being able to read two lines
>>221035514>press red but I acknowledge it's the selfish option>selfishit's not, not risking your life unnecessarily to save some retards incapable of understanding two lines isn't selfish, it's just normal.
if everyone pushed the red button, no one would have to worry about the blue button in the first place
what benefit is it to me to live in a world depopulated of altruists?
>>221028253>obviously pressing red is the nash equilibrium game theoreticallyif we aim to minimize death the nash equilibrium is blue.in a blue majority, if one person accidentally slips and falls on the red button 100% of people are savedin a red majority, if one person accidentally slips and falls on the blue button 100% of people are not savedblue has error correction, red has not. rational actor chooses blue to minimize death.of course this was never about ethics or rationality, it's about whether you take pleasure in raising the risk of mass cullings or are bothered by the idea of raising that risk. turns out for the majority of earth's population it's the latter because most people aren't amoral psychos who fantasize about mass cullings (edgelords).
>>221036240this
>>221036478blue button pushers are not altruists.
>>221036482>rational actor chooses blue to minimize death.No, a rational person presses the red because the mistakes of others are not their problem in COMPLETELY USELESS life-threatening situation.It's really just the equivalent of:>You pass by a hole>You can jump in or leave>If you leave, absolutely NOTHING will happen to you>If you jump into the hole, you will die UNLESS the majority decides to jump in, then at that point you will be given a ladderJumping into the hole is being completely retarded.
>>221036542>because the mistakes of others are not their problem unbothered by his actions increasing the risk of mass cullings (the minority)
>>221019287>while savage third worlders would not hesitate to choose redlow iq thirdie latinx catholoids would press blue because of their naive collectivist mindset>checks flagah yes, a well meaning naive thirdie catholoid pressing blue proving my point>>221022564>because their mental illness tends to overshadow all rationalitypressing red is the only rational choice what the fuck are you talking about>>221030246making the correct game theoretical play is not being a psychopath. red is the only way.>>221035514>>221013285why do retards keep saying>it's phrased that way that's dishonest!the phrasing is an iq test. if you aren't a bumbling 70iq retard you'll evaluate the options. you failed an intelligence roll if you pick blue. it's not a dishonest phrasing.>>221024798>Not the same at all. By taking the vaccine you decreased the chance of passing the virus onwrong, clot shots didn't prevent covid transmissions and asymptomatic spreader vaxxtards were responsible for spreading the virus becauseas soon as they got vaxxed they started going to alcohol parties and traveling abroad and caused more mutations
>>221036559>his actions increasing the risk of mass cullingsIt's not my action that puts themat risk, it's the actions of those who decide to needlessly risk their lives.The truly selfish thing is expecting others to also risk their lives in a completely stupid and pointless way to save you from your own stupid and pointless risk-taking.>b-b-but what those too retarded to understand and...Too bad for them, asking everyone to take a pointless risk to save a few complete idiots, that's what being selfish is.
>>221036569retard
this really exposes the fundamentals of so-called "right wing" vs "left wing" mentality. blue button pushers assume that most other people will also push the blue button because they assume that most other people share their same values and beliefs and thus their same idea of right and wrong. it's a sort of narcissism or perhaps just naivete if we're being charitable. but you see this quite clearly in arguments about immigration. leftists refuse to even entertain the idea that people from a different culture might have different values and thus different concepts of right vs wrong. they think the only difference between cultures is food, music, and clothing and they like strange food, music and clothing so why not bring tons of foreigners in? "I want to press the blue button therefore everyone wants to press the blue button"a red button pusher, on the other hand, does not presume to know the minds of millions of other people and thus presses the red button because it's the safest and most logical choice.it's also the "heat map" in action. blue button pushers are desperately trying to save the lives of people they dont know. but to what end? if you look at the state of blue button cities I think you'll find the answer.
>>221019320truth nuke
>>221019163they always resort to sexual accusations in the end kekactually, that's not fair, they usually start with that
>>221012710When I first read this I thought pressing blue is the right move but after thinking it for a while I'm not sure anymore.Let's me phrase the game like this: We have this stupid game if you press a button you will gain nothing but a chance to die, if you press you refuse to play this stupid game, nothing will happen to you, if you press blue you will die unless 4 billions people press blue with you.The red button is simply saying that I refuse to play this sick stupid game, everyone has a chance to press red so it's their choice if they want to die
>>221018938>Trump-Trumpwhat?
>there are people ITT calling themselves "high" IQ that would pick bluethere are NO, I repeat NO downsides to picking red for every single person in the world
redbuttoners are incel subhumans
Blue. It is virtuous to risk a heroic death in service of other people. Civilization was built by the dauntless sacrifice of blues.
>>221012710What if it is a tie?
>>221036757>>221036890>>221036926so these are the high IQ whites...
>>221036935I am a local and not white. The sexpat trash that make it here would almost certainly only hit red.
>>221036240>Pressin blue is risking your life to save people who have needlessly put themselves in dangerWisdom and intelligence is not a measure of moral worth. It is virtuous to save lives regardless of how stupid the ones being saved are. Our individual lives do not mean too much in the end - meandering for under a century at best. To risk total death with the possibility of saving even two other moral beings, regardless of their wisdom, is virtue beyond compare. You cannot achieve more meaning in life than that.
why are people imagining a moral dilemna where there is none?
>>221036926this is exactly what i was trying to get at earlier. this anon doesn't see a difference between "other people (in my community)" and "other people (in a different community)". anon doesn't understand that you were only ever asked to sacrifice for the people in your own life, not for people you've never met.
>>221036987slave mindset
>>221037056>you were only ever asked to sacrifice for the people in your own lifeThat's not what this dilemma states.
It's sociopathic to convince and morally shame strangers to put their life at risk with possibility of death just to save potential imaginary people, as compared to pressing red in which if everyone did, everyone would be saved in the first placenevertheless the fact that morally, the burden of killing would fall onto the first person to press blue, since they would be the one to cause the cascade of deaths of others accounting for them
>>221037085There is no dilemma you are a retard
>>221037102I have to assume the jump votes are from people not reading it carefully. Actual lemmings.
>>221037061Better to be a virtuous pawn than an evil king.>>221037102And thus it falls to the rest of us to press blue in order to correct the mistake of that first person.>>221037109There is. You cannot guarantee everyone pressing red, and it is morally wrong to condemn everyone who pressed blue to die if there is a chance they don't make 50%, simply because one person has made the choice to press blue. Again, as I said, our individual lives don't have much meaning if you take no risk. You can die meaningless of old age, or you can die for abstract but virtuous chances beyond your consciousness.
>>221036935I literally advocated for pressing red
>>221037102I would not jump here, because of the context, but I would press the blue button. The cynic will falsely argue I am a hypocrite, because he cannot see any path other than to validate his individual survival.
>>221037157>or you can die for abstract but virtuous chances beyond your consciousnessthere are other virtues besides your specific morals, such as the pursuit of truth, art, etc>And thus it falls to the rest of us to press blue in order to correct the mistake of that first personand what are you going to do to force people to align with your morality? kill them?
>>221036597If there is a chance to save a thousand good fellows and two thousand selfish idiots, it should still be taken. It doesn't matter who held responsibility for bringing the deaths in the first place, that is for dealing with after the dilemma.
>>221037185>there are other virtues besides your specific morals, such as the pursuit of truth, art, etc I agree, but that's why I would push blue for you, even if you pushed red. Do you see how that works?>and what are you going to do to force people to align with your morality? kill them?No? What is this non-sequitur?
>>221012710I'd probably push the blue button because I don't think babies and toddlers really understand the question so if everyone just pushes the red button then you'd have a lot of dead babies which would be....kind of horrible.
>>221037225>but that's why I would push blue for you>>and what are you going to do to force people to align with your moralityso how are you going to force other people to push blue then
some people have more to give the world than simply being a sacrifice
>>221037242i think it would be pretty hard to teleport a voting device into someone's womb. that also brings into question, what if someone just... doesnt push any button? how is the "has to take a private vote" enforced?
>>221037285That's a good question and I don't have the answer for that sadly, I'm just going by what's stated and since it says everyone gets a button I assume 'everyone' is regardless of age an autonomy since that means people who can't understand the question would also be given the choice too. I'm just pushing the blue button out of my own moral choice, really. I'm aware the red button is the most logical but I myself couldn't really live in a world knowing that my choice directly resulted in the deaths of a lot of people.
>>221037250Why are you so obsessed with force? I'm not going to force anyone to pick blue. In this dilemma we do not know for certain who picks what, that is the point of the dilemma. I pick blue because of the uncertainty. If I knew outright that red would win as a committed fact, then pressing blue would save no one, and thus there is no virtue, and I would press red. But there is no fact, no divine writ that guarantees red will win.>>221037266Up to you. But remember you are not guaranteed to be a sacrifice.>>221037242>>221037285The dilemma is an abstraction. It will almost never certainly come to a button press. Take that into account. It is worthless to treat these dilemmas at their fantastical face value.
>>221037334>I'm not going to force anyone to pick bluemy man, you cannot say that you are going to push the button for someone else then say that you aren't forcing anything
>>221037334I suppose all the uncertainty comes down to how much time we have before we have to make the choice. It'd be pretty interesting to say, if we were given a month to think it over before pushing the button, the online discourse would be absolutely nuts.
>>221037182the context is the same here if your argument is "i want to save idots"we know a lot of idiots will jump into the wood chopper so following your logic, you should jump with them
>>221037242From what I understand the only way to make this a moral question is to remove sentience from the equation. The same would apply to actual retards as well.
according to twitter, "everyone" also includes potential aliens on other planets, so you have to consider the additive effect of exoanthropic moral systems
>>221037388Yeah it'd have to rephrased as a button being given all adults of a sound mind and have it purely affect them only in terms of the vote. But even with the tightening of the scope you're still looking at the potential deaths of millions or billions which would ultimately leave a lot of orphaned children and dependents. There's also the aftermath of the vote, let's just red wins with 60% of the vote. Do the other 40% just drop dead on the spot? That's a lot of bodies that have to be dealt with fast before it causes serious problems not to mention the sight itself would be fucking grisly man. Red is the most logical but blue avoids the issues entirely.
>>221037355???How did anything about my comment imply force? I said I would press blue, even if you pressed red, for YOUR sake. You said people had the right to pursue other social virtues. But there is no guarantee you CAN achieve those virtues without help - or have the people to achieve those virtues FOR - if the people that would have helped you or received the benefits of your virtue perish because they pressed blue and the blue vote fell below the 50% mark. By pressing blue, I therefore maximize the chance you can succeed in your other virtues, and it does not even guarantee my own death. If I press blue and fail, then you still have the lesser chance to pursue a lesser virtue.
>>221037431sure but picking blue in the first place is what causes said issues.
>>221037434my bad man i misread your post saying that ur going to make everyone press blue
>>221037443Right, but not everyone's going to vote red anyway because of the framing of the vote itself. It's kind of a shitty crapshoot no matter what. A lot of people will die regardless unless there's a miracle and 51% vote blue.
>>221037431You think 40% of adults would press blue? You do know if that scale tips slightly in the other direction it's complete extinction. I would at least like to have enough faith in humanity to know they could pick the choice with no drawback at all rather than believe that 40% of humanity needs to have their reasoning carried by self-sacrificing cynics.
>>221037360The answer will be radically different depending on the millions of contexts this can be applied to, because all actions have a purpose and the point is to decide based on circumstances what the most virtuous act for society is.
>>221037469Maybe? There's like what, 5 billion adults on this planet? It's important to understand what you might consider to be the logical choice might not be the logical choice another and humans by and large aren't well known for being logical under duress. This singular vote would apply an ungodly amount of pressure on everyone that I can't even fathom to be.
>>221037507So if it's uncertain which way they vote there's a risk of extinction regardless of what you press, except one of those buttons assure that people live regardless of outcome. It's not a community vote you can't just tell people we're all voting blue.
>>221037496the context is different but your logic would still apply, that's the point. What's so different about the idots jumping into the wood chopper that you're not willing to save them now?The answer is that your reasoning is based on vibes, that's why it can change so much depends on the wording of the question.
>>221037537Well, the way I see it there's two "perfect" scenarios that play out in this vote.>a) 100% of people vote red and nobody dies>b) 51% of people vote blue and nobody diesI would say b) is a little more achievable in this hypothetical perfect scenario. But if we go with the more realistic outcome where red wins by a majority that means depending on how many vote blue that could be anywhere between 1-49% of the adult population dropping dead instantly. I don't think it'd be an extinction level event but even red winning would set us back pretty far collectively as a species just from potentially losing out on a massive chunk of the genepool.
>>221037621The way I see it is if the blue vote gets to 40% that's still 40% of people dead. And since the choice is uncertain all you have is your reasoning faculties. So if I see the correct choice the only thing stopping me from pushing red is thinking that most of humanity will push blue even though it makes absolutely no sense. The only thing driving the choice of pushing blue is cynicism or trying to stop people who are making what's effectively a suicide attempt.
would push the green button to kill everyone
>>221037681would push the brown button to kill only greeks
>>221037537>there's a risk of extinction regardless of what you press, except one of those buttons assure that people live regardless of outcome.You just have to make a lot of grounded assumptions rather than commit to absolutes. It is unlikely everyone is going to pick red or everyone is going to pick blue.>>221037613>The answer is that your reasoning is based on vibes, that's why it can change so much depends on the wording of the question.The "wording" of the question forms the context of each dilemma, and my reasoning will change based on context. Virtue is dependent on context.
>>221037674Like I said, red is the most logical choice but blue is the most correct one. I could press red and live no matter what but do I honestly want to live in a world where 40% of the adult population dies in that scenario? It'd be downright apocalpytic.
>>221037704I suppose, maybe it's delusional, but I can't see a world where over 20% of adults push blue unless for some reason they really want to kill themselves. Pushing blue and dying at least gets you out of living through a situation where 40% pushed blue, but I'd like to believe that the majority of adults can make decisions for themselves. If the question was as poorly worded as the twitter post I'd push blue because kids are retarded, but if it was only adults I'd push red and not think twice.
>>221037776Even at 20% that's still a fifth of the adult population gone and there'd be severe infrastructual damage to civilization for years to come. The only way where red doesn't lead to real damage being done to society it'd have be in the margins of at least 95%+ and I don't see that happening sadly. I think the only logical conclusion that one could reach is that the vote is just a giant trap made to kill as many people as possible in one go and the way to avoid the trap entirely is if 51% vote blue.That's the real tragedy ain't it? All you need is just ever so slightly more than half the voters to push the blue button and life continues on normal. But pushing red, guaranteeing your survival would potentially mean the end of human civilization as we know it.
>>221037776It also matters who presented it. Gods? What gods? The God? Aliens? What kind of aliens? If it were a man-made problem it would almost never certainly come to a pure logical calculation, there would always be context of who was involved, who would benefit, etc.
>>221037819It's some kind of a trap by giving an option with 0 repercussions, like if you vote blue and fail the rest of people eat the loss anyway. So all I'm left with is believing that the majority of adults can solve the world's simplest logic puzzle as a question of faith. There's no reason to push blue outside of paranoia or cynicism. You're not responsible for other adult's decision making on a day to day basis unless they have some form of severe mental handicap. If this wasn't a private vote it's easy to organize, but it's not and you're left with a question of faith.
>>221037888Blue only needs a simple majority that won't lead to everything getting fucked afterwards, it just depends on people's ability to look beyond self interest in that moment so it really does come down a vote of faith. Do you have faith that 95% of adults will vote for red in that moment or 51% of adults voting blue in that moment?
people with certain narcissistic traits fail to understand not everyone thinks like them. they assume pressing blue means 50% risk of death and their self-preservation instinct kicks in, this is a misreading of the hypothetical based on extreme lack of empathy; they think others too are only out for themselves and have disregard for human life other than their own, and would vote unpredictably (possibly deceptively).in reality most people care deeply about others, KNOW that others care about them too, and would be uncomfortable contributing to the option that could cause mass deaths across the board when the alternative is harm reduction.>>221037102>the burden of killing would fall onto the first person to press blue, since they would be the one to cause the cascade of deaths of others accounting for themglaring false equivalence reveals this as a troll post. it's an interesting point nonetheless so let's pick apart and examine what the the actual cascade would look like:>a mother cares for her baby, un-conditional blue. her husband cares for her, un-conditional blue. (repeat this for half a billion mothers, their husbands, friends and extended families. repeat for pretty much every religious person.) the average joe then goes "huh, lots of blue. well, death is pretty bad mkay, everybody knows that..."before you know it 50% of the planet has "cascaded" into voting blue. so the results come in, turns out everyone has been saved, and here's that one neckbeard in his basement who has analyzed the risk matrix, trying to tell all the mothers and fathers of the world they've actually just done moral wrong and are the real, objective sociopaths in this situation.
>>221037962I'm uncertain which way the vote will go to begin with, so all I'm left with is picking the option that makes sense. Picking blue and failing is just as bad an outcome unless you wanted to die. Also you grossly overestimate the amount of people needed for labor we just went through covid and saw just how many jobs were essential, it was around 52%. We're even seeing economists talk about Malthus again seriously. You're hinging on a vote you don't control either way and with no way to negotiate for the optimal outcome, but I do have the ability to assume that most adults have some ability to reason. It's going to come down to faith unless you can outright influence the vote.
>>221038044I think the only logicial conclusion that can be derived is that red will win but a lot of people are going to die regardless. While you can't account for who votes blue but there's the potential you could lose a lot of technical and high expert people of their respective fields in society too which will lead to more knock on effects down the track. Just because of how humans think and operate, it could just be sheer statistical certainy that a decent chunk of humans will die from this theorectical vote and instead of it being a question of faith. It's just a question of, do you want to live in a world where the red vote wins and whatever consequences that might stem from that?
>>221038008I'm not risking my life for people that can't read 2 sentences
>>221038117based sigma evasion
>>221037776It's already been shown that 60-70% of people would press blue so you are delusional.
>chuds harp on about wanting a high trust society while they themselves create the low trust red button society>libs meanwhile live in the high trust blue button societyIt's like poetry, it rhymes
>>221038109It's more about responsibility at that point. Like if you worked a highly specialized job that couldn't be easily replaced and you risked blue only to have the vote fail then you put your sector at risk. Specialists generally are very aware of how important their job is, I couldn't imagine one pressing blue unless it was suicide. So if you feel some responsibility to be in the world you press red even if the outcome is horrible to live through you work it through the best you can. I'm confident most people have the ability to reason and if a large blue vote fails it's just as bad for everyone who pressed red. Why wouldn't I vote for what I think will be the majority rather than gamble on a utopian outcome? Wouldn't the absolute best outcome be everyone pressing red and you can know the world is completely sane and doesn't need their hand held?
>>221038195I don't know the nitty gritty of it and I can't speak to others but regardless of your education level and speciality, a lot of people do value their morality quite highly and might not see it as logically as you do. People can and will vote on their conscience, just remember that. Also I think the notion that 51% voting on blue so nobody dies being "Utopian" is kind of silly because to achieve the same result you need 100% people voting red for nobody to die. I feel like your biases are starting to show.
>>221023393retarded chud award
>>221038265I can't read the conscience of every person any more than I can assume that they have the ability to understand the vote. Many people have different ideas of morality, I'm sure more people can figure out question with a zero-sum answer than they can resolve their own moral code so I have no reason not to think red wouldn't be the majority. And if red is more likely then blue is a more dangerous gamble. If this was a question of optimal outcome then 100% red is the best outcome because you can be assured that people can resolve simple logic privately. There's almost no chance of it happening, so it's completely utopian, more so than blue. If I didn't think blue was likely then I'd have no reason to press it outside of wanting a utopian outcome against the odds, or sense of paranoia of living through a social collapse after the vote.
>pushing red is for non-retards>pushing blue is for retards and those with suicidal empathy for said retards (they’re also retards)How are there 200 posts of arguing this?
>>221037102>jump into the woodchipper
>>221012728>, this is basically high-trust vs. low-trust society, right?no, it's simple cooperation>since we're low-trust, I'd say red would prevailyou think australia is a low trust society is stunning. also picking red, I think the reason blue won the poll is because retards like you need us to save you from yourselves, like you read the exact same words as us, but you had a comprehension failure and picked the wrong choice. humanity succeeds because we are not all retarded.red button: some people die, but I live SELFISHblue button: everyone lives if we all press this COOPERATIVEdaily reminder that humanity is cooperative and selfish individuals are parasites, we love them but fuck they're cancer sometimes
>>22103815360-70% of people on twitter. This does not represent in any shape or form the whole globe. You are the delusional one if you think most people on the planet have this hivemind of togetherness as human race.
>>221038631it is commonly accepted fact that twitter consists exclusively of 3rd worlders racebaiting each other. 60-70% being the co-operativeness estimate of the lowest low morally is optimistic if anything t. eri
The woodchipper analogy isn't valid. The correct analogous scenario is:This woodchipper is not turned on. If more than 50% walk into the woodchipper to press the button, it's disabled and nobody dies. If more than 50% stay outside and press the button to turn it on, they turn it on and blend the people who went in to disable it.
>>221012710I press both.
>>221038730and the correct move is still to simply not get into the fucking woodchipper.
>>221038432because there are retard sympathizers in this thread. some of it is bait, some of it is probably anons whose moms are retarded and they know it.
>>221036987Going by your argument, it would be peak ethics to convince, and where necessary, beat people into pressing just one button globally. Flooding a building with fentanyl gas and clicking a button for them would be morally acceptable, you twat.
>>221038265>People can and will vote on their conscience, just remember thatthen they can face the consequences. if you're too much of a pussy to not step into the fucking woodchipper because some other hypothetical retard might get mulched then it's your problem.
>>221012710Red
>>221038265>you need 100% people voting red for nobody to dieyou don't get it fundamentally. red voters see it as your own personal responsibility to not needlessly risk your own life over something as stupid as this. if you die it's because you pressed the blue button.blue buttoners think that not even one single idiot can be allowed to face the consequences of their own actions and it is somehow everyone's moral duty to shield people too stupid to not crawl into a woodchipper
>>221037157Ok go save the millions of people doing dumb shit right now thats going to eventually kill them. Just sell your house sell everything and devote the rest of your life to saving their lives. Your life doesn't matter, you virtuous pawn.
>>221037157>our individual lives don't have much meaning if you take no risk. You can die meaningless of old age, or you can die for abstract but virtuous chances beyond your consciousness.why don't you go dedicate your life to banning motorcycles, alcohol and cigarettes?
>>221038841The correct move is to not turn the woodchipper on when people might be inside. You psychopath
>>221038961I'm not getting into the woodchipper jusr because you might be stupid enough to be in there. If you die that's because you crawled into the woodchipper. Which should be obvious but somehow isn't to the oversocialized retards dominating western society
>>221038961It would be very morally correct to turn the woodchipper on if there were politicians inside.
>>221038887this is a strange reaction to someone else wanting to be good. you could ask yourself why YOU don't think millions of people are worth saving? do you not want to be saved if you needed it? we're all in this together, this isn't a fucking competition we all just want to live
>>221012710I push red. Liars and idiots push blue.
>>221038979If I die it's because you turned it on you psychopath. Murderer. Evil.
>>221012710red because I fucking hate women
>>221039007it's ok the women press blue, they'll save you
>>221039005I didn't put you into the woodchipper. Don't blame others for your own incompetence.This stupid mindgame seems to split people between those who believe in personal responsibility (red) and those who believe in collective responsibility (blue). I don't care what you choose to do, have some spine and take care of yourself.
>>221039091>personal responsibility (red)choosing red is killing people for you own selfish survival, don't delude yourself that it has anything to do with responsibility. only blue lets everyone live. sociopaths pick red. you live in a society, you're the freak here
>>221038992>just risk your own life to save retards please bro pleaseIf you have the audacity to demand this from me, then you shouldn't be shocked when I demand you throw your life away to save others first. Lead by example.
>>221039091Psychotic freak turning on the woodchipper. You want to kill people. Just admit it
>>221039210>just risk your own lifeI get that it's probably a waste of my time to try to explain this to you. you are choosing the only option where people will die guaranteed. you're a retard. it's not audacious to expect cooperation since you are only alive because of it. your whole existence has been helped by others. you did nothing alone. you selfish cunt. medicare is us helping you are stupid
>>221039348I think there's something pretty ironic about picking the red option knowing that people will die because of your choice and claiming self responsibility. Being responsible would be picking blue because nobody dies, it's the gayest version of the prisoners dilemma.
>>221039243>>221039123just don't get into the woodchipper. >but other people might..they can also just not get into the woodchipper. I am not sure what else to tell you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>221039431you are getting into the woodchipper and blaming others for your fate. nobody forced you. literally nobody has to do it.
Why are redoids so callous and evil?
>>221039595who the fuck is talking about a woodchipper? We're talking about buttons.
>>221039650Psychos can't satisfy their bloodlust with buttons, they want to imagine the gory details.
just don't get in the woodchipper. why are you climbing into the woodchipper? just don't get in and you won't die. just don't get in the woodchipper>but i have to climb into the woodchipper!i'm not going to lose sleep over you if you climb into the woodchipper. just don't climb into the woodchipper. the negatives of climbing into a woodchipper are quite obvious. just don't climb into the woodchipper.
>>221039666>tp>those tripsChecks out
>>221039666>>221039595>he turns on woodchippers when people are insideAbsolutely demonic
can't believe people fall for this rage bait
also the way it is explained is very convoluted, a more concise way to explain it would be>if you press the red button you live if you press the blue button 50% of all other people need to also press it or you die
>>221012710https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/billions-worldwide-consume-inadequate-levels-of-micronutrients-critical-to-human-health/Having lots of people is overrated.
>>221038008unless you are 100% sure, which is never a thing in reality, either color winning is plausibletherefore it is selfless to stay behind to rebuild society if the worst case scenario were to occur
>>221012728>>221012825hello bhai
>>221012728Kek
>>221012710I would only press blue because I want to die, otherwise I'd pressed red.
>>221012710red is a win win situation, the world having less people would only improve my lifegoycattle will choose blue
>>221036934jews die
>>221012710The button that kills everyone
reminder if you are a red fag you are literally brown
>>221018938everyone majority pressed blue
>>221036799Trump won 2 elections. That field appears to be for people who voted for him in both 2016 and 2024.
>>221038178>chuds harp on about wanting a high trust societyNever heard anyone say this where do you retards even get these talking points it's like you just pull them out your ass
>>221046549go to pol brownoid is their main talking point when talking about any african or south american country
>>221012710this is genuinely the final test of firstieness. if you would press red you're spiritually thirdie, sorry
>>221013050This. No reason to not push red.
>>221029743you would probably fail the banana behind a wall test
>>221020797if you want to see a society of blue pressers, look at japan, scandinavia, western europe if you want to see a society of red pressers, look at india, subsaharan africa, central americaif your argument is that india, the congo, and central america are superior societies to the west, then sure, i think you're retarded but atleast you're ideologically consistent, but if you are going to we wuz about being a roman emperor and talk about SAVING EVROPA, then you're a hypocrite and dont understand anything about a high trust society
>>221012710This is a gay and retarded version of the prisoner's dilemma because there is objectively no reason to NOT press red.at least on the prisoner's dilemma the choice to cooperate had a clear risk
>>221027694>just get 100.0 % of people to do somethingvs.>just get more than 50 % of people to do somethingTell me, which of these options is more feasible?
>>221048956It's a private vote m8. If you push blue you're basically saying that over half the population (assuming it's all adults) needs to have someone make their decisions for them and can't figure out that there's no drawback to red.
>>221037621>I would say b) is a little more achievable in this hypothetical perfect scenarioIt is not the same thing you have to convince people of, albeit. Convincing someone to "vote red so you survive no matter what" is easier than convincing someone of "Vote blue and have a significant chance of dying"
>>221012710>would you risk dying to give retards a higher chance of survivalNo, so redIf everyone chooses red everyone survivesIf you choose blue you're either incredibly stupid or desperate to save the incredibly stupid, and I'm not dying with you
>>221049372You're not escaping the thirdie allegations tonight
>>221012710Pressing the blue button introduces a problem for no reason.
>>221043487you're brazilian so you're literally brown
>>221020538the blue buttoners go from "all life is precious; we have to save everyone" to "we should kill certain people for fun" really fast, don't they?
kill all bluers
>>221031995Because it introduces risk which does not exist in case of red. Blue is objectively a dumb choice and the only sensible reason for choosing it is being worried some of your family or friends are idiots who can't take a moment to think it through.
Normally I'd choose red, because I don't want to unnecessarily risk death for retards, but my wife is a bit of a dummy and in confusion she might pick blue, so ultimately I'd choose blue.
>>221021135'Humbleness' and underestimating your own knowledge are vices, they are not positive qualities possesed by intelligent people. Why do retards always need to cope by claiming that their stupidity is a sign of intelligence?
the blue button argument seems to be predicated on the assumption that some number of other people are definitely pressing the blue button. so my question is: who are these people?
>>221048956Pushing blue is cuck behaviour, simple as.
>>221049535>>would you risk dying to give retards a higher chance of survivalGood way to put it. Poland, you're all right.
>>221050612And even if you're worried your family will go blue, your solidarity with them isn't going to do shit when you are 1 person out of billions. There is zero rational reason to pick blue.
>>221012710Well, int?
>>221012838kek
>>221050062>noooo you can't kill me for fun, only I can do that!!!
>>221013050that graph says most people would press blue, so the only reason to press red if to be an edgelord
>>221049768and? won't stop you from being brown too nigga
