The BEST that America has to offer
>>221045930pool guy mogs
>>221045930What's the point of a detached house if they're that close together? At that point they're no different from row houses
>>221045930>1:1:1 Chipotle to Chick-Fil-A to Crumbl ratioDo Americans really gauge real estate by its vicinity to fast food?
>>221046048>What's the point of a detached house if they're that close together?You don't get fucked as badly if your neighbor sucks when you live in a detached house versus sharing a wall. That's what it all boils down to.
>>221046068eat up the precious slop, goy
My property tax is 0.3%. 3.5% is a robbery.
>>221046048You don't have to hear your neighbors shout at each other through the walls
>>221045930Why are there only two houses with swimming pools? Are those the personal holdings of the chiefs of two different HOAdoms?
>>221046108>>221046160Does it make much of a difference if you're going to live wall to wall anyway
>>221045930>$40,000 a year rent once you've already bought the houseNo thanks.
>>221046321Absolutely, I've lived in both types of homes, attached/detached, and I'll take detached any day.
>>221045930damn that's a good deal
>>221045930If your yard is that small, you can't grow your own potatoes. This means it's literally a shithole. I judge people based on their potato growing ability and/or if they utilize it.
>>221045930A house that large (im assuming 300 sqm+) would cost a lot of money everywhere in the world if I'm being honest
>>221046048It's against zoning rules
>>221045930What the fuck is a Chick-Fil-A and a Crumbl? What is a HOA?
>>221045930How is a kid supposed to walk to the store
>>221045930
>>221046453What about the ability to keep chickens?
>>221046564Groceries get delivered by a jeet, grandpa
>>221046505I am not, but I think they should not be uber strict. I think its a good idea to have areas be primarily x or y, but with a few exceptions like a convenience store here and a dentist there. Don't put heavy industry in the middle of residential, but allow for some not as disturbing alternate use cases every now and then.
>>221046564>>221046594thats communism
>>221046594That's alright. They take up more space (per calorie) than potatoes. So you have the space, but utilize it for something else, but still productive so it is good. The judgement comes from 1. Not having the space to begin with and 2. Not utilizing it (if you have it) for anything productive.
>>221046644Having an apartment complex next to houses looks really strange
>>221045930honestly, the main thing that makes them look dystopian is the lack of trees, but they clearly planted them so in about 10 years it should look a lot less depressing
>>221046691Most of the suburbs people like to show tend to be in the southwest. You can't really grow trees there, the fact that they have suburbs in such arid environments is amazing, but they're way more expensive to maintain. My suburb looks a bit like your pic, but with more irregular tree density. It's especially nice when there's no HOA and people do their own thing with their gardens.
>>221046690not really
>>221045930basedit looks like cancer
>>221046690if a street is between them and the complex is just 1-1.5 storeys higher, it's totally ok.
>>221046048Are finns blind and retarded? Those houses are thousands of square feet dipshit, they look close together because the camera is far away. Do you think thats like a kiddie wading pool lmao?
>only 45 minutes to a city center
>>221046922I assume this. I live in the northeast and never see suburbs like are usually posted here. Trees are everywhere and if anything we have too many and they fall over and break shit when a nor'easter storm comes. But its more of a hassle to cut them down a lot of the times than anything else. If you move 10 feet outside of any developed zone its forest (and it continues to be for 500 miles.So I guess those suburbs are a regional thing.
>>221046922>>221047315The East Coast has also prettier homes (been there.)
>>221046606>
>>221047379I especially like driving through boston andsome of the nicer places around it which has a whole bunch of architectural styles. You get some of the colorful uniquely designed Victorian houses, some neoclassical stately red brick with white columns, and some older early 1800s/late 1700s georgian style houses. OFC its not all like that and there are some shitter places as well, but I do like a lot of the nicer places. They dont look as kitche or as overbearing as some other "nice" places I have seen.
>>221046108>>221046160Imagine having walls that aren't made from paper mache
Do Americans pay 3.5% property tax over their primary residence? I hope not, because that shit would more criminal than my own country.
Not a single store or restaurant in sight. Why do people live in places like these?
>>221047548It's part of our japanese culture. please respect.Also, you can def hear/feel shit through brick/concrete walls. I can more than confirm through my years in a brick school.
>>221047607We have cars. I don't want to live next door to some filthy smelly ethnic restaurant full of screaming browns, Mahmout.
>>221047736>Bragging about being a South Africa 2.0kek
>>221047725Yeah I'm just memeingI'm lucky to "inherit"* my mum's 3 apartment house, I get to have my own space for free instead of continuing to deal with noisy neighbours who smoke. * Ownership is transferred to me at no cost, in exchange for my mum having a life-long right to live in this house rent-free. This does mean having to care for an elderly lady later, but I'm already doing that with my grandma right now and it's fine. And I get some gibs to help with that, plus if she becomes disabled or demented, there's additional help I can get.
>>221046661I sell excess eggs to my friends and colleagues.
>>221045930>no local shop on the estate>have to drive 30 minutes to the nearest WalmartHow do Americans cope?
>>221046594BasiertBei uns bisher nur Tomaten, Kartoffeln und diverse ObstsortenAber Hühner wären auch mal was Kollege verschenkt immer seinen überschüssigen Honig
>>221046505looks like a fat woman sitting on her knees
>>221047607Americans don't walk anywhere outside.They drive to the Mall gym and use the walking machine.
>>221047942Jo, ist schon geil die zu haben. Allerdings machen die Viecher auch recht viel Dreck und werden häufig von Milben befallen. Es ist auf jeden Fall eine langfristige Investition - Gemüse und Obst ist einfacher. >>221048033Kek, I can't unsee it
>>221047814nice.
>>221045930I want to live on at least 10 acres which is not an unobtainable goal in the US.
>>221046380You're detached from reality.
>>221046594Most HoA's here (and especially the one in OP) do not allow them, even though I would love to have some
>>221047606Suburban infrastructure is extremely expensive to maintain since it is spread out so much, and highly suburban cities have had to increase their property taxes since there are no dense areas to subsidize the rest of it. The only upside to those insane property taxes is boomers seething that they actually have to pay something for their expensive ass houses they got for 20% of the price they are at now.
>>221046606Tbf dentists are fucking robbers everywhere. I'm fairly sure most universal healthcare having countries don't cover dental procedures fully, especially not for adults
>>221045930I swear to God this whole "suburb American, dense walkable EUrope!" discourse was non-existent like 8 years ago.Anyways as an Australian it cracks me up because we honestly have both. Melbourne is quite "walkable" (I get by fine with the trams) but is also ridiculously spread out and full of detached houses.
>>221047725>Also, you can def hear/feel shit through brick/concrete walls.Wrong. There's literally no way you could hear what's going on in the next room in a real non-american house unless you share a ventilation system or leave the windows open.
No real garden. That makes it trash, but it's still better than being apartment-cucked.
>>221048531Urbanist Youtubers got big, and they make such objectively true arguments that 4chan contrarians have to oppose them with weak, emotion based arguments.
>>221048531You don't think Europe has both? The idea of US suburbs was plagiarized from Sweden and made worse in every way. They got rid of all the trees and put the houses close together. They made all the houses look identical.
>>221045930>only 3.5%>onlydo americans reallyif your property is worth 300k thats almost a 1000 a month
>>221046048This is a very European question.
>>221046586>>221046606Stop doing meth and buy a $1 toothbrush TODAY
>>221049895Just stop using living in a city as an excuse to behave in a subhuman and self-destructive way, and people will stop despising you
>>221047900Honestly, that must be the least annoying part. You make a trip once a week and that's it. You don't have to worry about the weight or the amount of groceries because you have the car. In my case, the supermarket is seven minutes away, but I have to strain my shoulders every time I go there (let alone when I have to do a big shop)Perhaps the worst thing of all is the lack of third spaces. Not a restaurant or anything nearby to connect with the community.>>221049991Swedish suburbs are much more sovful
>>221047607Even if suburbanites wanted to live next to a convenience store, their neighborhoods are designed to discourage non residents, and since the store would need a higher costumer base than it can support.
>>221047607>tfw gotta drive 45 minutes to buy cigarettes at 11pmthe price of freedom o algo
>>221050165OK Boomer.
>>221049867>this was made for fire safety>so that if a apartment burned, the fire would need to spread via the façade outside of the cell>unironically solved the noise issue
>only 45 minutes to the nearest supermarketDo Americans really?
>>221047607walking is gaymy mom and dad can't walk anyway, so what's the point of walking
>>221051465rurals do, yesthere's usually a dollar store in their degenerate "towns" as wellpeople in the suburbs and cities think this is insane, my grocery store is a few minutes away by bicycle
>>221048531man, living during the industrial revolution has got to be the single worst period you could possibly live through in all of human history
>>221046606my dental insurance is $20/month and we also have "public" insurance
>>221048248You clearly have no idea
>>221050123Europeans don't have HOAs throwing you into slammer if you play music too loud.
>>221046540fast food chicken restaurant, shitty chain cookie company, home owners association
>>221052608Better idea than you, burgerboi. Try living in a real house for once in your life, fatso.
>>221045930you will never own a home and you will continue paying half your income to your government
>>221052623>noooooooo you can't fine niggers that blast music at 2am while everbody is trying to sleepthe absolute state of eurotrash
>>221046606damn a toothbrush and a tube of toothpaste must be a luxury in your country
do we just get the stupid europeons on here
>>221045930>paying $1.2M to live in tightly packed, mass produced, soulless propertypass
>>221047254yes, if only the neighborhood was more walkable they'd be able to travel 37 km more quickly
>>221052759yes the functional ones are out living right now
>>221047548I don't have to since no homes in america have walls made of paper mache
>>221050882>>221051465how come none of you can read a map? this is embarrassing
>>221052623so you definitely play music too loudly, kek
>>221052623HOAs are good because it keeps trash (like you) out. No one wants to hear your dog shit music, retard.
>>221048248You’re genuinely a complete fucking retard.
>>221049991this is interesting. do you know of any good documentaries about the swedish suburbs?
>>221052796You could fit things more compactly if the entire city wasn't 50% parking lots by area.
>>221052965>the entire city
>>221046160what? do americans really?
>americans can't walk to the grocery st...
>>221052997This is pretty much how I imagine american cities
>>221053152The golf courses are usually in the suburbs too but otherwise spot on
>>221053152you're an idiot who can't read a map and you also utterly lack curiosity
>>221053301>tf>tpLet me guess.>muh le zoning laws>muh niggers>muh homeless
>>221045930Is there nothing to do outside in these places? It looks like it's all just houses.
>>221053491There's black people outside.
>>221046594What's the point of having a rooster if you just have a few hens for eggs?Is it to terrorize the neighbours?
>>221053491I grew up in the 90s and we were still allowed to just run around these places with our neighbors. No one does that anymore though from what I see and hear. It also fucking sucks tremendously as a teenager because you need your parents to drive you to anything unless you're 16 and they give you a car
>>221045930Serious question: is having chain restaurants nearby an actual selling point for a house, to American people? Is mentioning the Chipotle really going to tip the balance for a 1.2 million dollar home?
>>221053631Sort of but not really. The boomers buying houses like this are retired and only want to ever go to places like Texas Roadhouse, but these kind of developments always have a Texas Roadhouse within 15 minutes of driving. Chain restaurants just naturally congregate around boomer inclined developments
>>221053491Read Ray Bradbury's short story "The Pedestrian". No, really. He lays out exactly what's wrong with American society, about 50 years before most people noticed.
>>221053887>PedestrianIsn't that illegal in America?
>>221053152you forgot the prewar neighborhoods that surround the CBD
>>221052796I dont need to travel 37 km because our cities are livable
>I am so proud of having to drive 40 min anywhere, haha stoopid uropoors mental, innit
>>221054989you can very easily spend more than that commuting in a city
>>221055042Nigga, I live in a moderately big city and there’s 3 supermarkets 5 mins away from me by foot.
>>221055504You know most people commute to school or work right? Not just the supermarket?
>>221055595My workplace is 10 mins from me by car or 15 minutes via public transport. Cope.
>>221055618are you a woman?
>>221046160In those shoddy cardboard houses, yes you do.
>>221055699lulwut? You got some spiked weed from the gypsies this time around, Bozgor.
>>221053631>i think one account on x (formerly twitter) might be representative of 340 million people spread out across 8 million square kilometers
>>221055768you argue like a woman>men are taller than women on average>but im taller than xyare you romanian refugee? then no wonder you are so dumb desu
>>221055699Man chuds always fall back on the same shit when they are losing arguments>are you disagreeing with me?>you must be someone I find inferior because I can't argue against you
>>221048323It’s insane that the same boomers who disdain over-regulation and renounce all social responsibility also choose to live in neighborhoods run by power tripping HOA nazis who don’t let you do anything on your own property without tons of red tape.
>>221054954can't read a map award
>>221047606Texas has no income tax but they trick you by having high property taxes
manifesting a GARGANTUAN earthquake in my mind right now
>>221055819Am I arguing?
>>221055838The disdain about over-regulation was entirely invented by the Reagan administration. Before that conservatives didn't have such an adversarial relationship with government as an idea. Boomers were just gullible enough to think it justified their indulgent lifestyles
>>221045930so you literally pay X% of your property market value every year? and this X can be as high as 3.5? as in 42k a year for that 1.2 million house? that's almost the average yearly income in belgium
>>221056006>so you literally pay X% of your property market value every year?yes; it's called property tax>can be as high as 3.5i think the highest one is new jersey at 2.7%, not that that's much better
>>221045930That's retarded
>>221046691Tree's can't really grow like that in those conditions. Maybe the ones in that park area will do okay, if they weren't neglected as they most certainly will be.
>>221053019Iowa mentioned
>>221054167that was legalized nationwide in like 2008 IIRC, before that you could only do it in Massachusetts
>>221053019>des moinesaka chiraq 2......
>>221045930>CrumblWho the fuck goes there? Chick-Fil-A is overrated too. For $1.2 mil just buy your own chunk of property and build a home to your own spec.
>>221058847this
>>221046453My grandparents used to grow their own potatoes and mint, my Grandmother would steam them with the mint and they were the best potatoes I've ever eaten. I think about those potatoes every day.
>>221058847Crumbl was made by Mormons. You can put 2 and 2 together to figure out its clientele.
average homebuyer age in amerimuttland is like 40 now. for first time buyer. so basically the mutts will be in debt till the day they die which is probably 65 or 70 considering how fat and unhealthy and mentally ill they are
>>221059316>colombia
>>221045930>more HOAs per capita than anywhere on EarthAnd that's... good? I guess?
>>221045930ONLY 45 minutes to downtown Dallas??Oh my science!
>>221058847>45 minutes to the nearest grocery storein terms of convenience, not much of a downgrade either
>>221046014Until it turns yellow from people pissing in it
>>221060023green, you forgot about the blue dyes in the pool.
>>221046594Are those yours? Say "Hallo" to them for me?
>>221045930This is how I imagine communismEvery equal, no sign of individuality
>>221046160You don't hear they having sex either
>>221060073there literally isn't enough labor to go around for solid stone masonry and even rich people can't really afford itnew build cities will never look like european ones because we literally can't build like that anymore. the same wealth distribution happens in china, and their buildings are all glass, steel and sheet rock like everything else. welcome to enshittificaiton, it's only just getting started.
>>221060016Even in California county you can find cheap rural land that's less that 20 minutes from stores.
>>221045930>this waste of money house is close to some places you can waste money driving your car to so you can waste money on stupid bullshit. Also you're you're subject to some narcissistic boomers telling you what to do with "your" property that is owned by the bank.Holy shit i hate this fucking country.
>>221060116It's not really enshittification though, and why do people hyper fixate on stone ao much?
>>221046922this it's all just seething foreigners cherrypicking
>>221052879HOAs are running by soccer moms with no careers or skills of note taking out their frustrations out on people and sad men who are so desperate to feel useful in someway they basically enable that shit.
>>221047548My apartment walls aren't made of paper mache and I can still hear my neighbour sneeze in the wall next door. It's also a foundational, very solid kind of wall, not the ones you can "punch through" it. I can hear her fucking TV too. What's your cope now, chauvinistic Eurofag?
>>221060667>It's not really enshittification though, and why do people hyper fixate on stone ao much?Because it's one of the core resources in Age of Empires...Durrrr.Food, Wood, Gold, STONE.
>>221060742So you want to pay $1 million plus probably more than your yearly income in taxes and have to drive 45 minutes to get to literally anything so that you don't have to hear your neighbor sneeze? Get the fuck over it.
>>221045930This stands against everything Tolkien was for>>221046048Genuinely. If you want urban life, live in an apartment instead of runing km2 of land with dead suburbia. If you want rural life, live in a village in a house where you have actual space around you. Living in suburbia you still have neighbours around you just like in a block, but you take away urban space. Rowhomes are the most atrocious version of this, privacy of blocks with space hogging of suburban homes.>>221049991Maybe it's better they're closer together, it leaves more space for nature and punishes suburbanites with lack of privacy. Personally I'd add a moat or a wall or two.
>>221060802If it was only sneezing I could get over it. It's more the constant banging, hammering, loud music, loud tv, screams, loud chattering late at night, etc. Frome very direction also, from four different neighbours. How obvious it is to me that you have been a spoiled little shit living in your parents suburban mcmansion all your life who doesn't know how good he has it.
>>221060893I got my degree in a third world shithole where the walls of my apartment had no insulation, packs of stray dogs barked every night, and my upstairs neighbor was literally a buddhist monk who would bang a bunch of fucking bowls together every week to banish ghosts or some shit. That part sucked but in hindsight I'd rather go back to that and be able to walk to anywhere in the city I wanted and go out and do things and buy shit in the middle of the night by just walking downstairs instead of living in the middle of fucking nowhere having to drive 30 minutes minimum to do anything at all. The isolation of american life is not healthy. You just fantasize about not having neighbors because you're a loser who stays inside all day doing nothing anyway.
>>221060979Have you considered going back to your third world shithole? That's the place you belong in mind and spirit, clearly, probably in IQ too.Nice headcannon btw, and it's not that I want "isolation" per se", I want a simple and tranquil lifestyle, and if I have to get in my car to get to my friends or family it would be a good trade off, sleep quality would certainly improve.
>>221060802>>221060979kek every time an "american" flag is seething about this they end up being a third world latinx lmao
>>221061093I just went to school there. The thing people never mention about suburbs is that they will inevitably be flooded by niggers and spics and probably indians too once the boomers finally all die off so even the one thing that people say suburbs are good for will eventually not even be a factor, but you'll still be stuck there and poor as shit since the cost of living is so high.
>>221053631Chain restaurants are fairly popular even still, and especially if you are selling $1.2M houses to "career focused" people or retired boomers, likely these are not enthusiastic home cooks. They go out (or get takeout/delivery) at least a few nights a week. Considering that the nearest actual city is 45 minutes away, it's worth noting that they can find restaurants/grocery stores/probably other shopping as well much closer than that.
>>221060667>why do people like nice things?
>>221060073exact opposite configuration of most american cities
>>221045930>1.2 million for a cappieblockLmfao lmfaoLMFAO
>>221049991Im fairly sure it wasn't plaigerised, Sven. Suburbs are a natural development anywhere with abundant land and low population density.
>>221051465I drive 4 hours to to the supermarket here because I live in the outback lol >that one time my boss had to fly by airplane to buy toilet paper because rains flooded all our roads
>>221062058ESL reading comprehension.
>>221060742You have no sound insulation. I can't hear a single thing from my next door neighbors.
>>221045930where the fck is supermarket and other shit?
>>221062131>makes claim that it was plagiarised >"uhm ESL? I never said that"I know Nords are known for autism but this is not a situation dependent on reading social cues, you quite literally spelled it out "...plagiarised from Sweden..."
>>221062197no less than 15 miles away in a massive parking lot with no trees in it that heats up in the summer and actually makes the surrounding area like 10 degrees warmerSuburban city planners are demented. They build their communities for cars, not people. There is no plaza, no parks. They might even just have their groceries shipped to them. Look at this shit. It's like a pig farm
>>221062197>where the fck is supermarket and other shit?
>>221048459Dentistry is cheap even if you pay for it yourself, it only gets expensive if you don't clean your mouth properly and don't do yearly checkups.I pay less than 100 EUR per year to dentists.
>>221046160i don't do that in my commie block apartment either
>>221053585Alarm cock.
>>221045930>3,5% property tax>1.2 millionthats 42.000 dollars a year for a wooden barn without garden
>>221046453Based potato absolutist.
>>221046453it's forbidden in most of suburbia US to grow your own vegetables or to compostyou WILL eat the highly processed slop from walmart and you WILL be happy
>>221046691>Planting treesIf the HOA wants the hood to look like the houses of Edward Scissorhands, you're screwed.
>>221046453
>>221049991It looks like shit, I would hate to go out in the morning and seeing a big "alamy" word in front of my house everyday.
>>221066056
>>221066056Underrated post
>>221045930>more HOAs per capita than anywhere on Earth
>>221062058>Suburbs are a natural development anywhere with abundant land and low population densityThat would be rural. Suburbs specifically need the urban centre to function, preferably with cars or other fast transport system to haul people between unproductive subrub and wherever the real work happens.
>>221046453this guy is onto something
>>221066056It's mostly up in the sky so you don't notice it most of the time.
>>221066056>mexican humor
>>221045930>dallasisn't it full of jeets
>>221067721that's Houston
>no stores allowed in the suburbs>but we allow hundreds of copycat houses right next to each other with no trees, squares, parks I know the majority of american suburbs look actualy nice, but zoning laws should have some nunace
>>221067721Fun fact: You can watch "Debbie does Dallas" in its entirety in Wikipedia, as it is public domain.
texas is a place where man decided to ruin the natural beauty of god's creation and if i dont have to ever go there I won't
>>221048248Delusional. I started living in my car because of attached wall PTSD.
>>221060882Snownigga have actually ever been in a village? The 10 detached farmer houses are not villages. Its a complete hive.Watch the heidi anime if you want to know the difference: Row of houses with hive living in it=villageHeidi's grandpa living in a lone cottage in the mountain=not village
>>221060073>american whining about inequality in europelol?
>>221068194>Watch the heidi anime if you want to know the differenceI nean this one https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5hKi1VlE94A
>>221065913>it's forbidden in most of suburbia US to grow your own vegetables or to compostlol do europeans really believe shit like this
>>221070850Everyone's an expert on things they've never seen or experienced themselves. Most discourse on here is just pissing and farting information manifested from dreams. Suburbs fucking suck as a teenager and young adult still
>>221045930Glorified pods
>>221068261is the inequality that the skateboarder isn't beating his wife?
>>221055819In this case, the German's example is closer to the rule rather than the exception, considering most European cities are built to be walkable
