is life in italy even goodwhy does it feel like they are the sick man of europe? I never really hear people talk about italy when they talk about the european economy, or european innovation or whatever it's mainly france, germany, UK, maybe even netherlands or something. but not italy.
they're basically spain (no jobs, live with parents until 40, no kids, gypsies and other migrants) but with much better public image + northern italy being decent
>>221101181>it's mainly france, germany, UK, maybe even netherlands or somethingalso denmark and sweden
>>221101214>northern italy being decentIt's more than decent, one of the richest parts of goyrope
>>221101333Due to big corpos, the average polentone isn't rich
>>221101181frans is buying them out
>>221101181>is life in italy even gooddefine life
>>221101597>>221101402why is life in italy so underdiscussedwtf happens over there I hear a lot about france and UK but very little about italy
>>221102095Discussed where? On your American anime website? All the normal people are living normal lives
>>221102155>On your American anime website?yes, on /int/
>>221102095This guy has clearly never been to Jersey
Trannies are persecuted there
>>221101181how average american sees europe has almost nothing to do with reality
>>221102095define lifesome people equal life to partying
>>221101597>>221102303I don't know working culture, demographics, general perspectives and mentalities of the population, yes even stuff like parties too are Italian people working towards something? where do they want their country to go. are they very nationalistic? what do they care about?
>>221101181>>221102541GDP-brained slave
>>221102541>working culturewe have a huge small business culture, which may sound nice but it's basically sad and low level slavery where the boss is usually some kid from a rich family who abuses his 20 low paid employees>demographics, general perspectives and mentalities of the populationit's a country of mama boys where women discovered feminism to get even more power. we even have a female PM now>stuff like partiesit's good
>>221101181Nakadashi
>>221101181this is literally a 14 y o, creep
>>221102848Is it true your engineers have a far more profound academic formation than most other places in order to produce high tech luxury goods?People often associate Italy with tourism and gastronomy, but I hear you guys are the second largest manufacturing economy in Europe
Italy is a rich country of elderly boomers in the north holding up a country of low iq browns. They are all too old so Italy is sort of a meme now.
>>221101181It's good if you're rich. But the only way to get rich is to be born rich or be a slave for 20 years
>>221103435most stuff is produced in family factories created by people with no university degree.
>>221103435I've heard torino politecnico is one of the best schools worldwide for automotive engineering
>>221103962it's so good that fiat cars are crap and fiat is a failed company :)
>>221103986Say that to agnelli, chinks are destroying us on manufacturing volume and ev, but they can't make a maserati
>>221102595>GDP-brained slaveI mean its one very important aspect of life anon. come on
>>221104067And that's the entire strategy of stellantis I think, look at what they did to french brands like peugeot they're shifting them up
>>221102155/int/ is a frog and 'jak board
>>221101214Spain mogs Italy by every metric and I say this as an Italian citizen myself
>>221104185>core>abarthmeh>>221103962>>221103986>>221104067torino is also the shitties and most failed among italian major cities. i cannot think about a single redeeming quality that torino has.
>>221104486Really?
>>221103736The north vs south divide is a complete meme, like 1/2 of northern Italy is made up of southerners at this point (usually the most educated ones since they move there because of lack of industries in the south, this brain drain has been going on for generations, so after a generation they just become ''northern Italians'' even tho they are from the south), it's not because of ''low iq'', it's lack of industries in the south. Southern Italians in the US are some of the highest earners by race even above other whites like Irish and Germans
>>221104486As of 2024, Italy has a higher nominal GDP per capita ($\approx$$40,385) compared to Spain ($\approx$$35,327)plus italian is a high tier prestige language and culture, spain has nothing on it
>>221102595If your country's GDP isn't growing, it's stagnating and dying.
>>221104590Spain has better quality of life>high tier prestige languageUseless language, Jimbo Di Stefano. Even italians themselves recognize it's useless outside Italy
>>221104689>Spain has better quality of lifelmaoyou're just saying this cope because you have sunk costs speaking mexicanif you spoke italian you'd swap your positionitalian food mogs shitty spanish food hard (as does french food and even turkish food)
>>221102908Legal in Italy.
>>221104576>Poor because of "oppression">Poor because of "colonialism"Lmfao. Southerners are why Italians are considered non-whites. The northerners are germans, the south is nafri.
>>221103736>>221104749>a fucking leaf
>>221104689>Jimbo Di Stefanoi'm genetically NW european with blue eyeshere's the prestige list of non-English european languages>French>Italian>German>Slavic Langs (Bump for Russia because of literature, but decreased because of the war, previously would have been above german) / the restSpanish is objectively ruined by the existence of latin america. It's a useless language by comparison to the Elites of Europe. Portuguese is above it because most people harbor a better opinion of brazil than the rest of you
>>221104749>The northerners are germans, the south is nafri.trvke
>>221104826The US are majority non-white.
>>221104928Wrong + You're just as brown as those brownstatesthe only people who can call us nonwhite are germanicsThe US is no more nonwhite than the EU is.
Our states are the equivalent of your countries.
>>221104799>FrenchAhmad please...
>>221104749Neither northern Italians nor Southern Italians are ''german'' or ''nafri'' genetically, we are both overwhelmingly Italic with a minor NW European admixture in the north and a minor WANA admixture in the south. Needless to say you are a complete retard
>>221104725Bold of you to assume I don't speak italian, Guido. Jersey Shore isn't Italy
>>221104957>WrongKek, your fake ass country is lost forever.
Reminder that Europe is getting tens of millions of Indian immigrants all because trump raised H1B fees to six figures EU countries are not sovereign and cannot fight this This is obviously on top of the refugee crisis which has altered Europe forever European demographics are entirely downstream of what America foes
>>221105168>complaining about hard working, intelligent, low violence immigrants wtf is it you want exactly
>>221105168Europe is fucked. Only consolation is that Indians have very low birth rates so they will filter themselves out after a generation or two. The only way forward will end up being civil war and revolution.
>y u no talk more bout taly??!nigga please, there's at least one or two threads about us at any given time here, stop being obsessed with us and fuck off
>>221104726Did Berlusconi lobbied that law?
>>221105713No, I'm pretty sure it's always been like that in the Penal Code.
>>221105846Do you get americanized youth and old women trying to get it to at least 18?
>>221104957redpill me on that part of south africa with brown hair
>>221105613>there's at least one or two threads about us at any given time hereI am not joking, the number of threads about Italy is like 10x less than Japan, and like 5x less than France or Germany or the UK
>>221106210look up Boers
>>221106289no thanks that sounds disgusting
>>221102095You only hear about people getting raped in france and the uk though
>>221106225all japan threads on /int/ are bad faith bait threads. but yeah i do think there could be more italy threads. i feel like italian anons generally have pretty relaxed lives
>>221107922you are right, japan isn't really a good comparison, but I still find it really surprising that Italy isn't discussed nearly as much as the UK is on here.is that just because this is an english language board mainly, and there are WAY more UK posters than italian posters? italian posters mainly stick to their general?It's strange because italy probably has the "richest" culture in europe, its arguably the cradle of western civilization yet I don't really even see italians on 4chan being nationalistic about this
>>221108004You have to consider the kind of italians who come here. The culture of the country manners. The average German could post here because they're autistic. Swedish people suffer in their freezing shithole. But Italians really have no reason to visit a board like this unless they're a shut-in with poor social skills, who can't adapt to the Italian highly social extroverted sunshine beach lifestyle
>>221108040>unless they're a shut-in with poor social skillskek the one italian regular we do have is the buddhist guy don't get me wrong he's definitely based, but yes very autistic so is italy a country of sexhavers then?? do they really have an extroverted beach lifestyle like brazil?
>>221108136The average person in Italy is like 60 years old. Maybe young sexy people 50 years ago.
>>221101181>I never really hear people talk about italy when they talk about the european economy, or european innovation or whatever to be fair you'll never really hear any kind of novel or insightful things on this part of the internet, or X. you're spending your time among your peers, i.e. the uneducated masses, the riff-raff. this is the circus from the old adage "bread and circus"
>>221108136They're people who are active, go outside a lot, go to the beach. That's why they live so long
>>221108221>among your peers, i.e. the uneducated massesspeak for yourself moron I most certainly am not the uneducated masses
>>221108221alright then einstein what intellectual topics do you want to discuss on /int/. go ahead. get started
>>221108436>>221108482why the fuck would I "defend my honor" as an anonymous poster on the internet, retard
>>221108572I see. so you are an unwashed masses type retard that only thinks about racebait and sportsball, and you are projecting those values onto the rest of us. got it I will be discussing planetary simulations of terraforming mars and the latest research papers on ML model architecture in the meantime with my fellow intellectuals on 4chan
>>221108606kek
>>221103736something foreigners don't understand: southern italians have mass migrated to the north for the past 65 years. my friends in the north call me a terrone and I call them polentoni, but they have obvious campanian surnames
>>221101181Northern Italy is a complete powerhouse, one of the richest and most innovative regions on the planet, beats even Bavaria.Southern Italy is basically discount Spain
>>221104957Muttistan is majority browns. Only age groups that are majority white are 50+.