[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/int/ - International


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: IMG_0203.jpg (74 KB, 480x683)
74 KB JPG
Why did India stop exporting its culture to its neighbors (srsly)

it seems strange to me that people in Myanmar or Vietnam or whatever aren’t watching Indian movies and tv dramas

Did India close itself off? Or what happened
>>
It's the same thing with China. Their domestic markets are so big that they don't really have any urge to export entertainment.
>>
>>221112235
so I guess in the past, exporting culture was more just a side effect of trade, while now it IS trade. Is that accurate?

I’m also curious about what the modern “Silk Road” is, like how does China get goods to India? I’m guessing everything arrives at some port on eastern India
>>
India is a shithole and India's Hindu culture is dogshit
Im glad nature is burning us off from this earth
>>
>>221111999
Do you think we watch hungarian or croatian shows here
>>
at some point thousands of years ago there were indian empires lead by leaders like Ashoka the Great but something happened and they became fractured kingdoms. they had some sort of rome civilization equivalent with aqueducts and running water. the dark age of india is worse than the dark age of europe was. but its easy to say when one place is still developing and the other stagnates
>>
>>221111999
>>221113879
india... has fallen...
>>
>>221114016
the downfall of their society was becoming hindu again
>>
>>221114039
care to elaborate?
>>
>>221114421
i was just reading the wikipedia article for the history of india and in the early medieval period or late antiquity, the Gupta Empire had the state religion of Hinduism, while the previous empires were Buddhist or Jain. After asserting Hinduism throughout the country, what was once a centralized nation became balkanized because everyone started worshiping their local hindu god. India became a place influenced by the outside world instead of a place that influences the outside world
>>
>>221111999
India isn't buddhist anymore. Myanmar and Vietnam are buddhist countries so have more in common with China. Amd they do watch dubbed over chinese dramas
Unfortunately India pretty much destroyed their economy and reputation after independence
>>
>>221112235
China was shilling their shitty entertainment here for long time. I think they finally stopped it now, but their culture is really cringe and low-tier so even Chinese diasporas in SEA don't love it at all.
>>
There was this Indian series with a thousand episodes that gained popularity back in the day, but there is not much now.
https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B4_d%C3%A2u_8_tu%E1%BB%95i
>>
India was a center of learning and had institutions where priests would be sent to educate, officiate and legitimize kings, do rituals and so on. Trade was a big part of it but education was arguably more important and influential.
>>
>>221111999
In the 1960s india controlled south west (ME), south (center) and south east asia directly or indirectly. The Arabs used rupees before petrodollar. Then our best PM got killed by CIA and KGB and KGB installed their puppet indira as our PM. After that everything went downhill. India lost its soft power as japan gained over SEA and US gained over ME
>>
>>221116919
burning of Nalanda was an irreparable damage to India
These days Buddhists will tell you Nalanda was buddhist but buddhists were the first one to comvert to islam. Even in the pakistan region. There was a university called taxila over there that got lost to the imvaders way before.
>>
>>221112594
>>221114521
>>221114039
Jai bhim
>>
>>221117596
Should've razed lawhore while he was on it
>>
Indian pop culture is still popular here THOUGH, Indonesian children are familiar with that blue nigga Krishna because they aired their cartoon and become a meme here, their drama is still regularly imported here and almost every Indonesian can recite every Kuch Kuch Hota Hai dialogue by heart and Tum Hi Ho is still used for corny love montage
>>
>>221118016
i never heard of B. R. Ambedkar but maybe he was onto something. really you are better off an atheist than believing in gods or even one God. It's all bullshit
>>
>>221118498
Ambedkar was a seething dalit. He's one of the many political figures responsible for ruining India after the independence
>>
>>221118599
what difference is there between you and a dalit? do you think if you took a dna test and compared it to any dalit there would be a significant difference? this is silly, like Japan and their "Burakumin" outcast class
>>
>>221113879
India's sramana movement was one of the greatest movement happened in this country. From it, came the philosophies like ajivika, chavarka, buddhism and jainism that rejected vedic brahmanical system. It is literally the first universal humanistic religion so it was worthy of exporting to the world.

Meanwhile dinduism is a fragile weak retarded dogshit religion thats practiced by 90% of streetshitters that does more harm to its own people like this pajeet who think like this >>221112594

Nothing value to export, we need help from outsiders to get rid of dinduism
>>
File: Tere Liye.jpg (394 KB, 1079x1157)
394 KB JPG
>>221118313
I learned there's an Indonesian writer whose pen name is "Tere Liye"
>>
>>221118686
Yes there is a difference. I don't know about the Japanese but it matters here, especially to me. People like Ambedkar tried to abolish this but failed massively and it has backfired.
>>
>>221118686
>do you think if you took a dna test and compared it to any dalit there would be a significant difference?
yes because it's been proven time and time again that brahmins are descended from the indo-european invaders
>>
>>221114039
>>221119709
>>221114521
>hindu bad
>india needs zogged kike intervention for muh globoabrahomo
sloppiest psyop attempt
>>
>>221111999
*stealing
>>
>>221121879
Many dalits are indo europeans too like the jats who has high steppe percentage than brahmins, brahmins are retarded people who wanted power for themselves.
>>
>>221111999
>Did India close itself off?
They kind of did, yeah, classic non-aligned move.
>>
>>221126192
proof on jats being dalits?
>>
>>221122025
The dindu nationalists are turbo zogged though...
>>
>>221126428
Jats are from sindh where almost all the population is 50% steppe and 50% indus valley, they were primarily buddhists in sindh, the brahmims usurped the buddhist kings throne and called them untouchable and under the Chach dynasty, they were subjected to severe social and ritual restrictions that resembled conditions of untouchability. This is why the deflected to arabs during ummayad campaign.

They migrated deep into punjab, where the western ones became muslim, the eastern ones became sikh, both anti brahmanical in every sense. There are few hindu jats too
>>
>>221126586
Interesting
i read that jats weren’t properly inducted into the brahmanical system like people in the Ganges-Yamuna plains and as they migrated into Punjab they came across the Sufi shrines established by earlier Muslim migrants from Iran and Central Asia with which they established a patronage/alliance system and facilitated their Islamization.

What caste are Hindu Jats considered to be nowadays? Do you know who lived in the Punjab region before Jat migrations from Sindh?
>>
>>221128774
>What caste are Hindu Jats considered to be nowadays? Do you know who lived in the Punjab region before Jat migrations from Sindh?
jats basically took up arms and became militarized and had lands so brahmins just had to make up some ritual to give them kshatriya status, some became shudras as well, most of them are now landed peasantry in Punjab and western UP.
Before jats it was just rajputs, gujjars, brahmins and agarwals, gakkars, there are many tribes in western punjab like janjua
>>
>>221130487
Are Jats considered a clan or a tribe? Or is it just a generic name for landed agricultural people that originated in Punjab?
When I was reading of this migration from Jats I was a bit skeptical because they came from Sindh wouldn’t they speak Sindhi? Is Punjabi descended from Sindhi?
>>
File: IMG_0247.jpg (228 KB, 1116x689)
228 KB JPG
Saaaaar do not decrease the bluddy Bharatisher izzat saaaaaaar!
>>
>>221131478
>memes you can smell
>>
>>221122025
No
>recognize the existence of the four caste
Acknowledging that caste exists in the society they lived in is not endorsing it.

>Kannakaththala sutta recognizes the superiority of the Ksatriya and Brahmana
"two castes are said to be chief". "said to be" is the operative phrase here. The Buddha is not saying that, infact he says caste doesn't matter to the liberation from suffering in the same sutta.

After the line you quoted, the king then says that he is not asking about this life, but the life to come. To which the Buddha talks about the five factors that support meditation. The king brings it back to caste and asks him if the there would be a difference between the castes if the all had the 5 factors. The Buddha says that then it would depend on the disparity of their effort. The king asks if there would be a difference between the castes if they had the 5 factors, and practiced correctly, to which the Buddha says
>I say that there is no difference between the freedom of one and the freedom of the other.
The Buddha then asks if different people made fires using sal, mango, or fig, if the flames would be different. The kings answer no, to which the buddha says
>“In the same way, when fire has been churned by energy and produced by effort, I say that there is no difference between the freedom of one and the freedom of the other.”

The Buddha didn't give direct answers from a position of authority and often used analogies and asked inquiring questions to help the other person understand. He spoke to people where they were, whether it was a scholar, an uneducated person, someone with entrenched beliefs about caste, etc. You can find the same concept explained in more or less sophisticated ways depending on the person he was speaking to in the tripitaka.
>>
>>221133715
The Buddha explicitly rejected Brahmin purity claims in other suttas like the Vasettha sutta - a conversation with two Brahmans
>By fervor and spiritual practice, by restraint and by self-control: that’s how to become a brahmin, this is the supreme brahmin.

and the vasala sutta
>You’re not a lowlife by birth, nor by birth are you a brahmin. You’re a lowlife by your deeds, by deeds you’re a brahmin.”
>>
>>221133795
what religion were people in sri lanka before buddhism?
>>
>>221133902
animistic.
pic rel is from a devil dance that has indigenous roots
>>
File: LK94008466-04-E.jpg (45 KB, 468x359)
45 KB JPG
>>
>>221111999
India's postcolonial neo culture has been thoroughly bastardized and dumbed down to appeal to the humongous population of North Indians who are solely responsible for bringing down every human development statistic to an absolutely abysmal state. The main cultural export of South Indians (movies) has also undergone profound retardation to cater to the most unkempt hairy filthy ass bum on the streets. Not to mention the inane generation-damning demographic change that India has gone throug h in the past century. Zainichi dalitoids and muz muz have grown from like 20% to 95% in 70 years who, as tragic as their plight was, bear the legacy of Indian culture as good as Indonesians do (mine at all). Which is to say that India is facing an Egypt-like situation. The culture of the ancients has been cut off from the neo-natve population - and it'll only get worse from here on. Whatever remains today is only the vestiges of what once was. The Indian civilization died in the 1980s. Now all the slop media produced is made specifically for internal consumption of retards. There will never be high art ever again. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
>>
>>221134062
is it true that the vedda are the original people of sri lanka before the arrival of the sinhala? if the sinhala originally come from near bengal why were you never hindus?
>>
>>221134062
A north Indian prince led an invasion and defeated the indigenous people and created the first Sri Lankan kingdom 200 years before Buddhism was introduced, so they were Hindus. The indigenous people were animistic.
>>
>>221134180
>>221134177
>>
>>221111999
Bruh. Bollywood used to be huge in Asia in the 60s-2000s. Even Chinks and Japs watched it. However, it is in serious decline outside India due to a dearth of younger superstars. Old Hindi movies and songs are still in frequent rotation on tv and radio in Asia.
>>
File: 1738534224824675.jpg (58 KB, 328x305)
58 KB JPG
>>221111999
you want more people shitting on the streets and worshipping cows?



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.