do normies and leftists seethe at rent and the housing market for no apparent reason in your country?
>>221122146>No aparent reasonYou're a landlord aren't you
>>221122435I used to be briefly but not anymore
>>221122435Yes, and everyone who isn't shitting themselves about the existence of billionaires is one.Your belief that other peoples' money and properties are yours by right, despite accomplishing no labor, is divinely inspired.Nigger.
just wait
>>221122554wait for what??
>>221122146Eastern European housing market is the worst in the world if you compare salaries to rent and real estate value. You need to be a special type of attention whoring contrarian to like this situation
>>221122479>"You mad about landlords?">"REEEEE COMMIE COMMIE COMMIE DIE DIE DIE"I hope Blackrock buys your family's property
yes, its weird how its such a widespread topic yet politicans do nothing about it worldwide except for china or something
>>221122595this is not true, 89% of poles own real estate, rent is not a problem affecting an average person, also it's still cheaper to buy than rent, even if you don't have the money you can take a mortgage
>>221122628Poland has one of the highest share of people living with their parents in their adulthood in the entire world. When the average age of moving out is around 30 then no wonder you have a high ownership percentage. So that is not at all a valuable number. The real number is much much lower, especially under the age of 40.
>>22112268089% is the official statistics, I don't know about living with parents though, I moved out when I was 18
>>221122680And not even considering the fact if people have some kind of ownership but in an area where no one wants to live, no jobs or opportunities. The large cities where people move always have a higher population than the official census by up to hundreds of thousands. So even being technically a "property owner" does not mean much when you live on the other side of the country
>>221122722The official statistics is garbage, it does not mean that 89% of the people own property. Think about it for a second, that would mean even children would have to own property. The average age of moving out in your country is around 30, all those people living with their parents are not included in this statistics.
>>221122771I owned property as a child too, it's common, a lot of people have some sort of inheritance
>>221122803If that were true you would not have so many adults still living with their parents
>>221122597>I hope Blackrock buys your family's propertyThat's not houw it works. If it's their property Blackrock can't buy it (unless they want to)
>>221122912I don't know, rentoidism is retarded though >>221122923those big organizations buying housing are not bad either, you can just own shares of them and get dividends regularly from their properties
>>221122999>I don't knowI'm sure you do, there is nothing fun in living with your parents when you are 30. People don't move out because the housing situation is fucked
>>221123068you could have bought the property 20 years ago when it was dirt cheap
>those big organizations buying housing are not bad either, you can just own shares of them and get dividends regularly from their properties
>>221123068It is almost funny how bad the situation is, people in Western countries have no idea. Look at this shit for example:https://gratka.pl/nieruchomosci/mieszkanie-warszawa-wola-chlodna/ob/4653823941 square meter literal commie block for 314 (that is three hundred fourteen) thousand dollars.>>221123100Are you just trying to ragebait people or what not? Are you really this lonely? You don't have anyone to talk to or anything? Just fishing for (You)s?
>>221123176my apartment is worth slightly less than a milion zł, im not rich or anything, most people just own homes?? I'm not ragebaiting or anything, just get out of your gen z reddit bubble or something
>>221123240The median salary in Poland is less than 2000$ and that is before taxes.
>>221123279yes, that's true, the median after taxes is like 5000 zł, but in warsaw where the prices are so high people usually make moreofc I'd like the salaries to be higher but people are still buying these apartments, if people couldn't afford them they would be cheaper, that's how supply and demand works
>>221123240Also, especially in your country there were millions (without exaggeration) people who worked abroad and basically monopolized the construction/repair/plumbing industry in every single Western European country and came back and that is the only reason they were able to buy a house in the first place. And that is before the recent real estate price boom worldwide
>>221122146They seethe about it but their solution is to uhhhh... just bring in millions more foreigners and tax rich people more. Somehow that will lower rent.
>>221123356yes, I know a guy who worked construction in germany and then basically built his house himself because he had the experience, he still had to take the mortgage because he had no money for materials, but if a retard like him could do it then why can't the seething reddit tier rentoids do the same?
>>221123346People are not buying apartments, the industry has no newcomers. People swap apartments, basically selling and buying between each other and using it as a form of investment. There are almost no newcomers in the market, just people who were already owners exchanging
>>221123413so again, like 89% of population??homeless people get everything for free here, free food, money, sometimes housing too
>>221123444>The median age of first-time homebuyers in the U.S. has reached a record high of 40 years old as of late 2025, up from 33 in 2021 and 29 in 1981And that is in the US, a country with a much better real estate market, higher salaries, lower taxes and better salary to price ratio. We have already discussed why that 89% is utter bullshit. There is a reason why your government is desperately trying to help the situation:https://www.gov.pl/web/primeminister/2-safe-mortgage-and-home-savings-account-now-available-to-polesThere is also a reason why countries do not generally publish any breakdown statistics like first time homebuyer median age like in the US. The situation is fucked but your argument is basically "who cares" Okay. Why make a thread? Again, are you lonely or something? Did people your age already got married and everything and you are stuck commenting on imageboards?
>>221123564there always was a poor strata in the society, back in the days people who rent apartments would be peasants or something, now they have it way better than in the past and even if you don't have the money you can take a mortgage Kredyt 2% was criticized by the leftists as supporting le housing lobby and I think that it ultimately lead to an increase in the prices, I don't know much about it honestly, I'd rather live my life debt free
They should make renting more profitable here because there aren't enough properties on the market to rent.
>>221122146I'm not seething because I understand that renting is cheaper and investing the money I save in the stock market will have better returns over time than buying.
>>221123681I think it is the opposite: introduction of market economics in Eastern Europe created a sociopathic ex-peasant class whose only concern is trying to extract as much value as possible with no concern to anything. It is like capitalism on meth. I remember reading an article about some guy in Hungary running some luxury car-wash place and he defended using exploited minimal wage workers from the South East Asia. Seeing all the influx of immigrants in your country it is probably the exact same. Late introduction of market capitalism created an emerging sociopathic ex-pleasant class. Corporate culture in this entire region revolves around trying to sucker out the last bit of money from everything, basically running barely legal scam companies until the thing collapses. The whole privatization thing was already this and now we have a whole peasant bourgeoise class with only high school education that are trying to get rich off the most looked down exclusively working class apartments. I remember seeing the comments on some new proposed development and the boomers were like This is going to bring down the value of my real estate. Mind you, he was talking about the most looked down upon worst working class housing estate. But with the 90s a whole class of these psychopaths emerged and now they are trying to suck every bit of money out of with no concern to anything and get rich off from estate made for peasants who were previously living in homes without plumbing.
>>221123944>exploited minimal wage workers from the South East Asiayes, that happens here too, they usually bring pajeets or sea people and they sleep on bunk beds like 4 in one room, they do the work and go back to where they came from it's kinda bad because the businessman could employ poles for a decent wage, but what if it's a shitty job no pole wants to do? those migrants work and don't cause trouble so I think that this practice is ultimately ok
>>221124142Well, this country is going to disappear anyway. Each year 140k people die and around half of that born. In just a decade that is like 700k down. There are going to be abandoned estates and ghost town all over the country but even if there were 15 people in the entire country the bloodsucking boomers still would not sale their shithole apartment for less than 200k. So in a way this country deserves its fate.
