More Americans are moving to the EU than the other way around, despite Europe having substantially more people.The American dream is officially for third worlders only. The third worldification of this country continues. It's no surprise if you visited a DMV, a SSA office or a Costco recently.
>>221137803Lots of anglos come to France to renovate our many castles. It's based as long as they're White-ish.
>>221137803the future is just labor moving where it pleases stop crying for muh genetic lineage and fight for the rights of foreign workers to equal pay as you otherwise you are just going to get your wage lowered as those workers lack any of the protections you have and get blackmailed with their visa being revoked
>>221137803This is due to america having a very strict visa policy for euros.
>>221137912It's by far hardest for Indians and Chinese to get green cardsThat isn't stopping Indians from taking over Texas
it's impossible to move to the US legally
>>221138002it's very possible. thousands of chinese and indians do it every year.
>>221137993thats because there is a billion of them and they all want to movethe people who want to migrate are usually the poor with nothing to losemost europeans are not poor enough to throw everything away
>>221137993Dont you let Indias in through H1B?
>>221138100anyone can get an H1B. nothing's stopping europeans from doing it. but they won't. americans would rather move to europe.
>>221138088as you can see it used to be the case that europeans wanted to move to america for a better life just like indians and chinese. but now americans are fleeing to europe.this accelerates the third worldification of this country. the whites who are too dumb to move out tend to be mental third worlders as well.
>>221137824Quand les musulmens trouvent une tête de cochon sûr le portail d'une mosquée, toutes les médias parlent. Pour une église ça passe crème. tu es sûr le même chemin que l'Angleterre et la Belgique
>>221137836>fight for the rights of foreign workersNo, it's over. We're going to regress to the mean. All wagies are going to be enslaved. That's what happens when rich people are able to import unlimited desperate slaves who have zero standards.Migrants aren't being blackmailed. They'd rather be here earning $50 a day than in india earning $5. We never should have allowed the import of desperate people who have low standards. That's why Australia and New Zealand had discriminatory migration policies against asian workers in the early 20th century. They were undercutting native workers.The social problems are just the cherry on top.
>>221138137It's brain drain. It's not really a problem in america but it is in Canada and New Zealand. We really are losing all of our smartest while we replace them with trash.
>>221138137because most europeans were poor and struggling in the wake of both world warsnow the situation is different>Migrants aren't being blackmailed. They'd rather be here earning $50 a day than in india earning $5sure they do but that's how they get blackmailedif they try to object to their wage they get their visa revoked and sent back and a replacement orderedthis is the issue here that people fought for lack of protections for foreigners so this happenspeople always think what you inflict on foreigners doesn't affect youi love germanyi love being a migrant here with my rights protected like any german workeri luv my unionsimple as
Americans don’t move to sneeden. They don’t appreciate what we have to offer. They move to Spain in droves for some reason
>>221138398oops meant to reply to >>221138369 also
>>221138114H1B means significantly lower salaries than your american colleagues and a precarious legal status. Your country taking in millions of indians instead of europeans is a deliberate choice by your government
>>221138398More immigrants just means more competition for the same jobs
>>221138398>if they try to object to their wage they get their visa revoked and sent back and a replacement orderedDon't let them order replacement slaves. Problem solved.>but worker shortage!There's no worker shortage. Employers don't want to train anybody because they can import slaves who are already trained (supposedly) and will work for less. Don't let them import slaves and they'll have to hire the workers we already have.
>>221138492and no immigrants means no growth whatsoever and starved vital services you need to strike a balance here with workrs and employersyou can't just starve employers of workers and hold the country hostage to a union like that people are gonna need doctors people are gonna need train workers etc otherwise it all comes crashing down>inb4 why does it need to growi dunno man if you find a better system than capitalism and managed to write a book about it before being assassinated i'll spread your message but for now this is what we have>>221138513there is a workers shortage however and germany is suffering from it and it's causing a lot of the problems the country is having (but 70% of those are still boomers though)there is a finite number of workers in every economy and you can't just force someone to work something they don't wantfor example no one wants to do my job whatsofucking ever because it's mind numbingly boring and tedious (accounting) (not that there aren't willing german accountants but you can't expect everyone to want to do it)
>>221138456because europeans would want human wages and are not as desperate as indians yeah
>>221138576There's only a shortage in some sectors and only in some regions. There's way too many entry level engineers in Germany for example.
>>221138596Yeah and americans could make it easier for europeans to get regular work visas then they would have a lot more european immigrants.
>>221138576Labour is never going be able to ask for more to the capital in a globalised world since the capital can either import more labour or simply fuck off to some other country firing everyone
>>221138670engineering is one sector that is oversaturated yeah (but not all engineering fields are oversaturated)germany is unique is that it's shortage is more lower end jobs than higher end ones as most germans are "over-educated" as some vampire CEO would call it
>>221138698but they don't want thatas you said they want cheap slaves and americans made sure that's possible because they fell for every fear mongering politician about migrants who used that not to stop migration but to revoke all rights of migrant workers (including white migrant workers)>>221138701the swiss have a system that stops this in place and so do germans you can't hire someone before you prove you tried to hire locally and failed and then your wage offer has to be sufficient here the swiss straight up make sure you have to pay higher than average for foreign workers i read you can tackle it and make it more expensive for CEOs to be snakes but they control everything in most governments and make sure any reform is as slow as possible or impossible
>>221138576>it's causing a lot of the problems the country is havingImporting 10 million indians isn't going to fix any of those problems. At best it's kicking the can down the road and making it 100x more unfixable.We should have been investing in technology to deal with this. Instead firm owners started importing slaves to enrich themselves at the expense of everybody who doesn't have their own slaves.>you can't just force someone to work something they don't wantThey're not paying enough. Most people are willing to do anything for the right price.>>inb4 why does it need to growCancer also grows forever, until it kills the person afflicted with it
>>221138404>They move to Spain in droves for some reason79% mestizo
>>221138739ah yes chase the phantom of fully automated labor to fix an issue what next? nuclear fusion for germany's power needs? don't be delusional>10m jeetsthe reason it's 10m and not exactly what a sector needs (eg a couple of thousands at best) in most cases is lack of laws forcing companies to stop being dicksinstead of hiring to fill what they can't fill they hire to replace in most countries>They're not paying enough. Most people are willing to do anything for the right price.no, people are unwilling to work some jobs outright and that is a fact any first worlder will tell you that is a fact>Cancer also grows forever, until it kills the person afflicted with ityeah i'm aware capitalism is unsustainable cancerbut unless you have a solution that rewires the whole system then we have to play by the rules of said cancer that we live in
>>221137803america is such a dystopian cesspool that they somehow manage to be morbidly obese and still have absurd rates of death from malnutritionbut yeah WYPIPO DONT SEASON DEY CHICKEN SHEEEEIIITTTT
>>221138705Yes but the 5 quadrillion jeets moving here dont want to become construction workers in Oldenburg or elderly caretakers in northern Hessen, they all want to become software developers in Berlin
>>221139027they can want all they want they will end up being uber eats driversit's fucked man but it is what it is
>>221139053Yes because they are delusional. The easiest and the best solution for everyone expect a few scummy universities would be for the government to not allow them in
>>221138776>ah yes chase the phantom of fully automated labor to fix an issuehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkGSv_1RL1whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Jlod53BCU
>>221139131to be honest indians really do challenge my world viewsame as the chinesethere is just so many of them and scamming is not looked down upon but seen as a wini'll give you that i don't have an answer for the jeet question
Thank you America or sth.
>>221139166Immigration from the rest of Europe is good but they all can already move to Germany if they want. Immigration from the rest of the world is at best neutral. In the perfect wolrd slavs would have more babies, so we could keep importing them.
>>221139289no one is having anymore babies not even indiano one knows how things will play out
