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Hilo nacional
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Bumpo
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what happened to mexican cuisine
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Ta juerte la calor
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>>221176461
as a pvre bred aztec warrior, I DEMAND you give me that headdress immediately

my ancestors died for your rain
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Imaginen la cantidad de dinero que podriamos obtener si le pidieramos VISA a los gringoys. Minimo unos 500 dolares por cada visitante. Se las hacemos caduca cada 12 meses y profit. Probablemente podriamos dejar de vender drogas
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pero los gringoys son nuestros hermanos
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>>221179841
theyd just go elsewhere
gringoys have options
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>>221180589
they wont. the caribbean sucks ass (so far)
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>>221179955
oh my GOD!! second day grinding anki and i know every word in this post and i perfectly understand it :3 i'm gonna make it!
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los turistas visitan el gdp?
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>>221180667
Curious what made you choose to learn Spanish as a Turkish person?
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>>221180894
every other language is either too ugly or too useless or too hard.
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>>221179673
foto de la mano a ver si es cierto
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>>221179841
se lo robarian esos sucios agiotistas peor que judíos
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>>221180589
los gringos estan traumados con mexico, ni siquiera el wey que mato la canadiense hizo que dejaran de venir
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Es mi opinión que la industria turística debería ser abandonada y enfocarnos en producción.
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>>221180992
>thinks other languages are hard
>thinks spanish is beautiful
low iq tard detected
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>>221181800
:(
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>>221179841
Lo siento anon pero nuestros jefes gringos no gustarle la idea

Aparte eso no arruinaria el turismo medico o no le afectaria de todo porque aun con la visa seguiria siendo mas barato?
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>>221179255
puta
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>>221176461
Cómo sabemos que el penacho le perteneció a Moctezuma o siquiera que es original?
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>>221184008
Amable recordatorio de que el más grande patriota de este país según los chudcitos y halucines, Maximiliano de Habsburgo, lo regaló o algo.
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https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1777665912953495.mp4
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>>221184164
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>>221183375
>Cómo sabemos que el penacho le perteneció a Moctezuma
no lo fue. eso es una pendejez que se les ocurrio a los europeos por que esta muy bonito asi que tuvo que ser la corona de un rey o algo
>o siquiera que es original?
el del op es la replica que esta en el museo de antropologia
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>Humiliado
>por Austria
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>Creer que la monarquía haría de México algo mejor
>La monarquia britanica llego de indios Canada y UK
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Me agrada Maximiliano porque era uno de esos Timmys gringos que trata de hacer el trabajo que le fue dado con todo su esfuerzo, buena voluntad y honestidad. Pero también aprendí a entender por que fue importante que Juarez lo fusilara. Y finalmente que el Porfiriato fue una desgracia que destruyó lo que intentaba construir Benito
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>>221186504
Oí nomas a este pendejo chupandodela a Maximiliano
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Reminder that the headdress was originally curved
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>>221186504
MaximiliANO era la definición de halucín, ni en su propia familia lo respetaban
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>>221184114
que no se lo llevaron en la conquista?
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>>221187297
no es excusa para haberlo asesinado brutalmente
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>>221179955
Te odio con todos los fibras de mi cuerpo o algo
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>>221187367
Se le ejecutó por ser un invasor que queria entregarle toda la producción del país a Francia.
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>>221186815
are you the autist? what do you think the shapes above the crescent moons are? they almost look like heraldic towers but i'm not aware of any aztec towers.
could it be the representation of a temple?
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>>221187367
Querer ser alguien tampoco era excusa para causar una guerra en un país extranjero
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https://youtu.be/uQKsKW5EJ08?si=L4xTyefwXB1NLpOP
https://youtu.be/1ayhhg9n5q4?si=q5owXHvsJCOLFEJI
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>>221187658
Yes

By "crescent moon" you mean the crescent shaped golden parts over the blue feathers as seen in pic related? Those crescents (I don't believe they are actually tied to the Moon, though I'd want to double check that before saying so authoritatively) are a symbol associated with the Huastec, or at least certain gods that originated from that part of Mesoamerica, such as certain Pulque deities and Tlazolteotl

I'm not sure what the shapes above the crescents are, but yeah, they look kinda like temples to me, but if you look at the original headdress in Vienna (https://california-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com/f8/3a/859de4e54e91a149e1ee2949ce5c/la-fg-el-penacho-moctezuma-mexican-icon-vienna-1.jpg) rather then the Museo Nacional reconstruction that I posted, the exact shape of them varies a lot, and some of them could simply be triangles, in which case you could draw a connection to trapeze-ray symbols which represented sunbeams/sunrays and were associated with time, fire, and a whole host of other things through Xiuhcoatl's iconography
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>>221187860
>are a symbol associated with the Huastec
elaboration on this point or article link?
>the exact shape of them varies a lot, and some of them could simply be triangles
are they made of gold made to look like feathers in the original? or are they actually feathers?

also how come huastecs seem to have had a noticeable influence on aztec religion? why them and not other cultures around them?
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>>221188924
>elaboration on this point or article link?

I don't have time to dig up a deep analysis of this right now, but from Insignia of Rank in the Nahua World:

>Another frequent nose ornament, the yacametztli (“nose moon [ornament]”), or nose ornament in the form of the crescent, was a diagnostic trait of pulque deities and some of the mother goddesses associated with Huastec origin (figure 2.25c). Forming part of “Huastec” war costumes, it was made of gold (FC VIII, 35) and is known through extant examples in museum collections.The same golden version of this nose adornment—teocuitlayacametztli—is mentioned among costly Mexica insignia stolen by the Spaniards (FC XII, 48) and as an ornament of the impersonator of Xipe Totec (FC IX, 69). Apparently, the nose-crescent ornament could also be worn independently from the cuextecatl costume, as images of a brave tiacauh warrior (PM, fol. 72v) or a Tlaxcalan warrior (Lienzo de Tlaxcala, 61) seem to imply.

So seems like the crescent shape is meant to be a moon. If you want more info on the motif, Insignia of Rank probably does talk about it more elsewhere in the book (tho alternatively, Heath's Aztec and Inca armies credits shields with crescent motifs to both Huastec and Mixtec origins, tho Heath's book often has errors here and there).

>are they made of gold made to look like feathers in the original? or are they actually feathers?
The crescents, triangles/temples etc are all gold in the original too

>also how come huastecs seem to have had a noticeable influence on aztec religion? why them and not other cultures around them?
Good question, off the top of my head i'm not really sure, but again Insignia of Rank talks about this more I'm pretty sure, while pulling up this quote for example it brought up Mexica adoption of Huastec Copilli helmets (the conical ones) a bunch in sections I skipped over.
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