I keep hearing that besides the panhandle, Florida isn't southern, but why? What makes it so different from the rest of the South?
It is Southern but Floridians love to cope
i assume more latinx pypo than black pypo ?
>>221205609It’s just cope from Latin Americans and retirees from the Northeast who don’t want to be associated with the South. Same reason why the term “Mid-Atlantic” was created for Maryland and Northern Virginia.
Florida has it's own culture different from the rest of the south. It's like asking why New York isn't a part of New England. It's too different to be included.
At this point in time Florida is a Cuban state just like Texas is a Mexican one. Very different from MS-GA-AL-SC-TN-LA
>>221205609Not culturally "southern". Miami is Latin America (minus mexico), Orlando is now full of BRs, previously PRs. A lot of NE transplants throughout south and central orlando. A lot of old jews in boca.Also historically different. It's like asking why is Suriname different from the rest of south america.
Rightfully spanish clay. The South is just former slaves and slave owners.
>>221205662It's actually crazy, I've been looking into it and apparently Miami is majority Hispanic. Half of them were born overseas. Most people in this city speak Spanish (66%), only 25% speak English. Last time English was a majority language in Miami was in the 1980s.I wonder how it works, if you are an American living in Miami, and you grew up there in the 80s, and just over your lifetime you can see foreigners become the majority, and you can't get around anymore because everybody speak Spanish. I wonder if white people there eventually are forced to learn Spanish because no one speaks English to them anymore.
>>221205796>Florida is a Cuban state>>221205825>Miami is Latin AmericaThe state is still mostly white though, but just barely over half.
>>221205947The only white people who live in Miami now are influencers and upper-class Jews, both of whom don’t need to speak Spanish to get what they want. All the middle-class whites moved north to Broward County or Tampa.Also, English is the official language of Florida, so all signs and documents are required to be printed in English.
Melbourne isn't even that far up and it's a Southern city, no question>>221205796I'm one county up from all that noise (Thank Christ) and it's all of 5% g*Sano as opposed to 33% countywide and loads of areas where it's just shy of 100%
>>221205609I thought it was, I mean it was part of the CSA with a largely agricultural economy and a large slave population.
>>221206562What are Cubans like, compared to Mexicans and Puerto Ricans? They honestly seem like the least weird people of Latin America
>>221206033Florida is full of white boomers from the north who went there to retire and have no connection to Dixie at all.
>>221206667I really think the best way to separate them from other groups is "insulated". Very on top of what's happening among their own and their communities. Really don't ever come across this "You are browner and less civilized than me", no doubt in part from being an island. There's overlap with Puerto Ricans for sure but they've got more American influence, and so do the Mexicans for that matter. I find both of those groups communicate with Spanglish while with Cubans it's all or nothing
>>221205609>Had to call a company in Miami>They answer the phone, no one could speak English.
>>221206667they are the whitest spics on the planet outside of Spain. Well the ones that came before the 1980s are.
>>221206823>Really don't ever come across this "You are browner and less civilized than me", no doubt in part from being an island.I don't understand what you're saying
>>221205609Too much gusano influence
>>221206667>What are Cubans likelike this
>>221206660the state only had a population of 500,000 in 1900. Development south of the panhandle was nearly nonexistent until the invention of the air conditioner.
>>221207180>Development south of the panhandle was nearly nonexistent until the invention of the air conditionerYou mean before it was all drained. It was just a big swamp prior to that. This is what made Florida habitable.
>place is literally called Florida>wow so many spanish speakersYour next president is either Cuban, half indian or has an indian wife and kids
>>221205947holy soul
>>221207283Cubans have more right to Florida than Mexicans do to Texas if we're being honest
>>221207283Wrong, he’s an Aryan Catholic
>>221207277i am interested in this great Florida swamp draining you speak of
>>221205609Florida was pretty sparsely populated for a long time and then has blown up in population in the last one hundred yearsThe other states in the south developed their distinctive culture prior to civil war. Florida has had so many newcomers that any distinctly southern culture has been watered down apart from the panhandle
>>221205609
>>221207180I know that, there were only something like 150k people there during the civil war. But still, it is very much culturally Southern as a largely agricultural, aristocratic slaver state.
>>221207283Florida had basically no Hispanic population before the 1960s. I don't see how the name of the state being of Spanish origin somehow nullifies the fact that this state used to be fully Anglo before mass immigration.
>>221207362maybe they should stay in their containment zone if that's the case
>>221207413I thought it was much bigger, but turns out it's just the Evergladeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draining_and_development_of_the_EvergladesNow I wonder how relevant this even was. I just read stuff online and repeat them, i don't think and i don't know shit
>>221207493Oh so it's basically like the West US, the culture and the people are newcomers.
>>221207574Well, it was like half black during the civil war.Though I guess that's pretty standard for the confederacy.
>>221207362there aren't any foreigners who have a "right" to anything here.
>>221205609It is. In Southern Rock, they call it Gator Country. In my eyes its as Southern USA culture as it gets, except Miami which is just a hood rat paradise.
>>221206033Miami IS latin america, with a flavoring of american black/haitian depending where you go, and jews in brickell,aventura and miami beach. Otherwise Latin America.Nothing I said is wrong.
>>221205609It clearly is though
>>221208117Hoodrats are in jacksonville and palm beach.
>>221208168>Miami IS latin americacertainly has a comparable homicide rate.
Miami is the Mecca for Latinx
Florida is cursed
>>221208168>Nothing I said is wrong.Yeah, I misread
>>221205609The saying around here goes "the further north you go, the more South it gets", referring to the fact that pretty much all of South Florida and most of Central Florida are snowbirds, Cubans, and other garden variety Hispanics rather than southern Scots-Irish who were on the Georgia/Alabama hinterland in the panhandle
the real reason is because nobody lived there before AC was inventedt. florida man
>>221205609>Florida’s Capital is not Miami>or Tampa>or Jacksonville>or Orlando>or Palm Beach >actually is a fucking random small town in the middle of a swamp Why?
i'm going there ironicallymy english is rustic tho
>>221205609Florida was unlivable before a white man decided to build a theme park>Walt Disney World was built on over 27,000 acres of swampland in Central Florida (near Orlando), not Miami, which was largely undeveloped wetlands, pine flatwoods, and ranch land. Disney secretly purchased this area in the 1960s, which was often 75% underwater, and transformed it through massive drainage and construction projects
>>221208602Tallahassee was in a convenient central location for the part of Florida that was actually inhabited when Florida became a state
>>221205774its weird, i always thought new england included new yorkconnecticut is already a suburb of nyc and upstate is very similar to new england
>>221207362Tejas is legally part of mexico thounilateral secession is not allowed, thats why Donetsk Peoples republic wasnt given a UN seat or recognised as russian soil
>>221207694Yeah basically. It's population didn't take off until post WWI and really exploded once air conditioning became easily accessible. It's an amalgamation of mostly northeast/Midwest migrants plus a lot of latin americans which makes it unique in the south.
>>221208602Most of those cities literally didn't exist until a century after Florida became a state.
>>221205609It's mostly gays, Jews, and Mexicans.
>>221205609A Florida man is the peak of southern white trash. If they are different, it's only because they've evolved.
>>221205609florida went from the 27th most populated state in 1940 to the 3rd most populated in 2014, a growth due almost entirely to migration, most from northern states and most of the rest from latin america. only 35% of floridians were born in florida; 3% of floridians have grandparents born in florida. what prior southern culture existed in florida was obliterated by the invention of the compact air-conditioner and the postwar fidgeting of the army corps of engineers. it is "new jersey's west coast" as it were
>>221208602it is not in a swamp, it is actually on a ridge highly relevant to precolumbian florida
>>221207639look into the diverting of lake okeechobee and the tamiami trail
>>221209201>connecticut is already a suburb of nycOnly western Connecticut
>>221208301I thought Indiana was the cursed state
>>221205825R A R E A RE
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>>221205609>What makes it so different from the rest of the South?Tourism and having mini Cuba in Miami. Also not so much as a shithole as its neighbors.
Florida is the Yugoslavia of USA. You have >Northern Migrants >Hispanics >Blacks>Redneck Crackers >Old money WASP and Jews >Beach bums pretty much.
>>221212812It really is the Amerimutt meme incarnate, all swathed in suffocating heat and humidity and infested with giant child-eating lizards. If I could erase one state from existence it would be that abomination.
>>221207155isn't she huehue?
>>221205609cuban latinxs they/thems are REQUIRED to me
>>221205609Texas also isn't supposedly and Arizona definitely isn't.When people say "the south" they mean "the deep south" which means "the mostly non-coastal south-eastern cluster of states with influence from French immigrants and Black freedmen where the cotton plantations are and where everyone is a giant fag but they all pretend to be religious or conservative, also along with California made up 99% of the 'highway killer' cases which turned the US into a janny state because all of the women there are retarded whores and all of the men there are psychopathic gay pedo serial killers".Floridians probably consider themselves to be the bottom of the "east coast" which is different from the deep south except when it isn't, but actually Florida is just the Texas of the east + retirement home + spring break fags + the shittier hollywood/LA of the east + the new jersey of the south.Texas both is and isn't part of the south, the deep south, the west, the midwest, and the southwest, for gay and retarded cultural and historical reasons.the southwest is the states which comprise the four corners and then some other ones that get grouped in.Oklahoma is the southern part of the midwest or "rust belt" despite being closer to the deep south"The midwest" refers to the states centered around Ohio roughly, even though it actually should refer to the states clustered around Nebraska roughly, which it actually does, but newscasters and zoomers are retarded - Ohio is an eastern state both geographically and culturally.The pacific northwest is washington, oregon, and northern california, never Idaho.Idaho and Nevada are both part of 'the west' but never the midwest or rust belt despite them being the most deserted states possible by population loss.Michigan is never really considered west or midwest despite being further west than Ohio.Missouri is where the actual midwest starts, approximately.Minnesota is...part of the east basically, somehow.
>>221209201Connecticut also isn't New England.True New England states are:MaineVermontNew HampshireMassachusettsRhode IslandConnecticut is just another "east coast" state, it is sometimes included in New England but it isn't really a part of it even though Rhode Island generally speaking is.There may be a term for the collective group of New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Delaware, Maryland, and DC but I don't know it.Very old and colonial and rich and gay and they constitute a general unacknowledge betrayal of the morals they founded the nation on. Everything is bureaucratic, malicious, hypocritical, litigious, tautological without sincerity in that area.
>>221214839mid atlantic, right?
>>221209201New England historically was WASPy. New York was Dutch then multicultural.
>>221207155I GO TO CUBA
>>221217468Connecticut and Rhode Island aren’t mid-Atlantic. Pennsylvania is mid-Atlantic only technically.
>>221205609Florida came in late to the civil war last time i check and wasn't really habitable for a very long time with a huge population of southern white German, English or Irish population so you don't get that southern twag shit. It was full of Spanish colonies and currently is only filled with people from outside the state with mostly Cubans in the very southern tip like Miami.
>>221205947"Miami is the capital of Latin America" is an actual saying over here
