How did brazilians construct this idea of them being some kind of indigenous nation when they are literally a violent settler colony just like america the only difference being they're poorer.I mean portugal literally banned slavery before they did lol
>>221232759>settler colonyThat doesn't apply to us. The Portuguese literally did not had the population surplus for it. Brazilians originated out of (concensual) carnal relations. The Brazilian people are as old as the country itself we didn't came from anywhere else.
>>221232953>t. Joao Silva Santos 0.8% chupa nubra tribe
>>2212329980.8% maracaja, 0.8% moortugueseand 100% bantu warrior.Now now fuck off
>>221232759Brazilians used to spoke Lingua Geral, a language that existed until the 20th century, but unfortunately the portuguese forbade it under penalty of imprisonment. Brazil wasn't a settler colony like America, because it was colonized by caboclos.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulista_General_LanguageAll my 8 greatgrands were europeans who came here long after the native americans were gone, and i wish i spoke "lingua geral" spoken by the caboclos instead of portuguese.Tupi is one of the most beautiful and poetic languages that exist.
>>221232998I wonder if you got any finnish blood in you or you are 100% Somali
>>221233024>100% bantu warrior now now fuck off
>>221232759anon that's a good thing, black people look towards Portuguese and think "these people enslaved my ancestors" instead of thinking that about Portuguese-Brazilians. It's retarded? yes but it's best for our nation.
>>221232998no, he's right, settler colony is when you bring families to settle and work the land, with many of the same rights, privileges and institutions those people enjoyed in their country of originpractically all of latin america was an extractive colony, the plebs get put to work, get few or no rights, and all the profits and privileges are funneled to a tiny administrative/military elite that then sends it home
>>221233036>a language that existed until the 20th century,I hear this a lot but is this really true? by the 1700s portuguese had supplanted it entirely. Maybe it existed in some isolated rural villas. I think it's unfortunate that it's dead either way.
I'm 100% native americanthoughts?
Yeah what is that about. I was looking at arguments over the latest Falklands drama on Xitter and Bluesky and for some reason there's as many Brazilians as there are Argies sperging out about the pirates. Every time someone would critique Argentina's position as being baseless the huezillians in the replies would all be like>you are French you are coloniser just as bad as Anglos>you are Polish, I don't want to hear what USA's bitch thinks>you are global north, enslaver of humanity, your opinion means nothingApart from the fact they are retarded arguments, why would all these med looking Brazilians think this type of logic benefits them lol
>>221233322There are no white people in brazil. Everyone is a shade of african here. Also you are pirates.
>>221233372trvke
>>221233116>settler colony is when families to settle and work the land, Thats exactly what happened in brazil and latinx america especially after independence.
>>221232759>literally a violent settler colonyFalse?
>>221233372trvth
>>221233466sexo
>>221233243Can i get a fucking (you) for fucking sake
>>221233699What kind of response do you want to for your 23ndme test?
>>221233243>>221233699Here (You) go
>>221233765im literally european you fucking dweeb
>>221233427no, there was a lot of slavery and serfdom and things like internal passports even after the revolution, and you conveniently left out the part about rights and institutions that create enfranchised societies, retard, that's a big element of settler colonialism, "a family settled there at one point" doesn't turn the place into a settler colonya lot of the time when revolutionaries took over they didn't immediately start building those pluralistic institutions either, they just displaced the old elite and became the top dogs themselves, preserving the extractive model for their own friends and family (and if they tried to enfranchise the locals, some ambitious military commander would just have them killed and take their place)
>>221233243>>221233699Here's your updoot kind stranger!!
>>221233884you will never be european
>>221233884Okay congratulations
>>221233884>6% black Okay preto
>>221232759They didn't, that's left-wing propaganda, and the left won the discourse due to USAID funding + vote buying in the Northeast with subsequent control of the education system for more than 20 years now.Normal Brazilians have always seen themselves as very close to the Portuguese. Much like old Americans and the British. Even when there were actually violent conflicts during colonial times, the connection remained strong.Even our old left (Ariano Suassuna, for example) were still big time Lusophiles. Our left-wing dissidents during the Military Regime would print lines from the Lusiads to indicate a passage had been replaced due to censorhip. That changed when younger left-wing academics begun importing "global south" and "anticolonial" ideas from places like France and Germany in the 60s and 70s. They then became party members and now hold power. Their ideas were always a bit fringe but begun spreading somewhat in the 2000s then very rapidly in the 2010s thanks to US woke propaganda, which gave them cultural hegemony without them even making an effort (most Brazilians are big consumers of US media), plus a little help from USAID of course.The vast majority of Brazilians have substantial amount of Portuguese blood. The average Brazilian is essentially the result of a Portuguese man consensually marrying a 1/3 Portuguese. 1/3 black, 1/3 Amerindian mestiza.Yet the left will continuously lie about this. They will, say, for example, that the miscigenation actually comes from mass rape by the Portuguese and so on. Complete delusion, of course, absolute distortion, yet that's what the average left-winger believes nowadays. Probably a result from their sexual fantasies too. Left-wingers NEED to feel permanently raped or else their whole self-esteem goes down.
>>221234449I see
>>221234449>They didn't, that's left-wing propaganda, and the left won the discourse due to USAID funding + vote buying in the Northeast with subsequent control of the education system for more than 20 years now.meds
>>221234523you're justproving his point. all those samba schools are 100% leftist and funded by leftist parties
>>221234523Thank you for providing a fine example of what I wrote.
>>221232759No idea but whenever pepole complain about colonization in USA they always complain about americans because they are the ones occupying the land, not english. Usually native americans or wuzzing niggers complaining to white americans.But when you hear someone complain about colonization in brazil its always non native brazilians crying that portugal colonized brazil. They are too dumb to realise that they and their ancestors are the real colonizers who fled portugal, italy, japan, lebanon, or were brought as africans slaves to Brazil. Nigger mentaily just to complain because they dont want to hold themselves accountable. They really think they are natives. And the worst part is that they havr a superiority co.plex so they make fun of Nordestinos which is a demogtaphi of actual native brazilians.Every time i explain this shit on normie social media to brazilians their brain BSODs and then safe reboots because they are too dumb to understand logic.
>>221232759>How did brazilians construct this idea of them being some kind of indigenous nationWe didn'tYou retards came to that idea on your own
>>221234523the Carnival is a left wing field here lol
>>221236282>who fled portugal, italy, japan, lebanonThere is no way a Portuguese would know that and even include the lebanese.You have to be a zilian.
>>221236282You're talking to lefties. See >>221234449
>>221236369Nope i have watched a lot of tiktoks about brazilian diaspora, thats where i post the shit about you fags being colonizers. Plenty of you still cant grasp a simple and logical concept>im talking to this obvious euro descent brazilian women>she says shes full brazilian>she says we owe reparations> i ask her which tribe shes from>cant answer>i tell her>your ancestors fled their ancestral and and colonized and settled in brazil>my ancestors never left Portugal.>blocks me
>>221232759Iet me give you a very logical example>youre a native finn>russians invade finnland>russians who invaded finnland now call themselves native finnish>russians who invaded finnland make fun of original native finnish (you)>country goes to shit>russians who invaded finnland and call themselves native ginnish complain that russia colonized finnlandAbsurd
>>221232759because nobody knows or cares about brazilian history except brazilians so they can get away with dumb claims and distract people by screeching about america it's like those west african states blaming france for everything shitty they do or cuba the sanctions ruined their economy ignore em
>>221236466There is no right approach to thisIf we consider us mostly of the colonizer side, we still get accused of "being European wannabes despite being latinx".The reason you find many of those unhinged Western hating weirdos asking for reparations is due to the fact our school curriculum is captured by leftist ideology. Kids are taught to resent our colonial past.
>>221232759Shut your kariwa ass up
Anyone who knows a bit about Brazilian history knows most of us are descended from settlers, with some Indigenous ancestry mixed in. You can’t just look at Brazilians like pic rel and assume we’re Indigenous. At the same time people don’t really see themselves as "settlers" either, since Brazil has been around for so long. A lot of families trace back to the 1600s, even if they have Italian, Polish, or German roots, and many people don’t even know how many generations they’ve been here. If you think about how the country expanded or the fact that Brazil used to be an empire, it makes more sense
>>221236628You can clearly tell whoever is on this picture has distant indigenous ancestry what the hell are you on about
>>221236640Are you illiterate?
>>221236628>the fact that Brazil used to be an empire,kek
>>221236658empire of mosquitos
>>221236628>some Indigenous ancestry mixed inFuck offYou know it's slave blood, not indigenous.Only southerners get to claim a clean root.
>>221236608trvke
>>221236658The Brazilian Empire lasted LONGER than the German Empire FYI. That’s why Brazil managed to keep the Portuguese territories in the Americas unified, even though it didn’t start out very large. It expanded into other Portuguese/Hispanic areas and fought multiple wars to maintain control. This is pretty basic history, Chikaner.>>221236689Illiterate piece of shit.
>>221236769Monkey.Keep feeding your own delusions.And spam more about "bbc" on every thread.You are as ignorant as the American flags here.
>>221236794You are the one that spams this shit obviously, since you brought up out of nowhere after claiming brs are all part black not nativeAt least try to be subtle, cuck fag
>>221236769portugal did that not you
>>221236794Dude, you can’t even grasp BASIC logic. We’re talking about NATIVES vs. NON-NATIVES. Africans AREN’T native either, and they had conflicts with indigenous groups too. Everyone knows African ancestry is common in Brazil. That’s not the point.
>>221232759It's only Lulashitters who claim that, we Bolsonaro voters are proud settler colonists and we feel close to our origins.
>>221234449>>221236922>>221234449>>221236922Anglophone settler state lefties are obsessed with the fact they live on stolen land. Even in non-settler states leftists are usually the most critical of their own society. Even Indian leftists are less likely to blame the Britishers for everything and are critical of Hindu nationalism and casteism.What about LatAm culture makes settler descended leftists so uniquely nationalistic?
>>221237617>Anglophone settler state lefties are obsessed with the fact they live on stolen land.Same here. Enter /r/brasil and their banner literally says "Brazil is indigenous land!"White BR lefties keep self-flagelating all the time, it's something of a fetish for them.>What about LatAm culture makes settler descended leftists so uniquely nationalistic?Anti-capitalism, which they identify with Americanism.But they're not nationalists. They pretend to. They believe in internationalism and in the creation of a major Latin American block to counteract American power. They're the ones who promote "Latinx" identity.
>>221237617Leftists hate this country. They even cheer when people vandalize monuments. They hate our forefathers, our history and our land. The only time they sound "patriotic" is when the’re going after the US or the west
