Spanish cities literally just end, no suburbs at all.Does this happen in your country?
sovlmust be interesting to live on the literal edge of the city
>>221243136Why is the spanish countryside so empty? does everybody just live in cities?
>>221243164Interesting is not the word, just quieter
>>221243205>does everybody just live in cities?Yeah, it gets Lapland-tier outside of the cities and coasts
>>221243136>Albacete mentioned Based>>221243164On the edges of this city there are either good and comfy or shithole neighbours full of gypsies, no inbetween.
>>221243271It's funny how this looks weird and silly, but if there's trees on the other side it looks more normal. Same with those American suburbs that just have a desert on the other side of the road
>>221243136>Albacete Pfff imagina "vivir" ahí no irónicamente.
>>221243136>>221243308But why is there so few low density on the outskirts? Land ownage? Land prices? Government planning? I mean even the country side is: High density - nothing
>>221243136Ye tho usually the next village/small city is not far away
>>221244447We dont do THAT in SSpain
>>221244437We're the Asians of Europe, we just LOVE living in commieblocks surrounded by people
>>221244437Honest answer, it's probably just culture. For a long time (50/00s) people dreamed of living in an apartment in the city. People wanting to live in independent houses or in the countryside is a very recent phenomenon. The countryside emptied a century ago (it wasn't very populated to begin with) because people wanted better job opportunities and quality of life for them and their children.
>>221243136wow it's a literal desertcould've said it was mexico and I would've believed itno wonder they called it New Spain
>>221244956As if you knew what Mexico looks like, disgusting subasian marine creature
>>221243136going to a small town of 17000 people and seeing +15 storey buildings is something somewhat unique to this country.
>>221243136Big cities like Madrid and Valencia have typical suburbs. I’ve actually been there myself. But it’s true that when you drive on Spanish roads, you end up driving forever on empty roads with an 80 km/h speed limit. Then, just when you think the speed limit has dropped to 40 km/h, a town suddenly appears.
>>221243136I live in a suburb 20 minutes away from the city center of a half a million people city, with garden and shit. I consider myself lucky
>>221243136Madrid has suburbs. Getafe, Alcorcon i.e.
>>221245125I have cable on my underwater electric eel powered tv so I can watch American tv shows like Breaking Bad
>>221245322I'm from Valencia and it's not "typical suburbs"You have rich suburbs in small pockets around the city (we call them urbanizaciones) but for the most part it's just orbiting big towns full of francoblocks like Paterna or Torrent. Anglos/euros will have the ENTIRETY of a city surrounded by endless suburbs.
>>221245446crazy
I love España :)
>>221244707No we don't. We were forced to move, either you are a landowner or you barely get by.
>>221245419Again, that's not "suburbs". That's just smaller cities orbiting a big one. Does pic related look like a suburb to you? It's AlcorcónAnd that's what most of the outskirts of a spanish city looks like. Just smaller towns FILLED with FLATS.
>>221243136I like it lowkeyyy
>>221245477in my city we have tons single family houses with the occasional tower infested with nigs and nafrisit's a bit like an rpg
>>221243271Looks horrible.>>221245558Looks even worse.
>>221245558Do you still need to take weird detours to get into the A3, or did they finally made a connection between "el ensanche de Vallecas" and that motorway?Lived there for several years, it was crazy how bad it was after the 2008 burst...
>>221245643Central sPain is pretty dry for souhtamerican standards. There are places were you could shot a western film straight
>>221245558Zaragoza is INSANELooks like building a city in Minecraft
>>221245708*southamerican *where
>>221245558es ilegal
you might not like it but this is what peak urban planning looks like
>>221245543That looks like a suburb town to me yes.I bet if you go there at 10 am on a week day, it's completely empty.Many places in and around Lisbon have become suburban town as well
>>221243136Zoning laws?
>>221245125it does look like mexico, terrrain wise
>>221245838I've worked in the urban planning office of a city hall some years ago.By design urban planning and zoning in spain is ultra rigid. Some times even the local government must find its way around its own zoning laws.Also if you do something where you are not allowed to they WILL find out. We had a data base of yearly aerial pictures of our municipality so we could catch any illegal construction and now they are using drones and shit as well.
>>221245879Recuerden muchachos, el problema es los pisos turísticos, no los funciovagos ni la vivienda de protección oficial.
>>221245838Yes. Very strict ones.In general there's a lack of available land to build and re-zone an area takes years. That's part of the reasons why real state is so expensive here...
>>221243136Kinda. Its not that abrupt, but you will still have 3+ story houses up to 500m from the city edge in many places
>>221245446Kek
>>221245914Los pisos turísticos solo aumentan un poco la demanda, pero el problema verdadero es la oferta. Y la falta de oferta está estrechamente ligada a esto >>221245879Si liberaran masivamente terreno construible la oferta aumentaría y los precios bajarían pero bueno, es más fácil echarle la culpa a los pisos turísticos que hacer algo.
>>221245446Best post thus far
>>221245979Por eso mismo Paco, cuando te piensas que es imposible odiar más a los funciovagos, algo te hace darte cuenta que no los odias lo suficiente.
>>221245915>>221245979Another problem no one talks about is the fact that construction is now very very expensive. I work in the sector and even nowadays with housing prices through the roof developers are barely breaking even in new construction, and some are even going bankrupt RIGHT NOW because even with the current prices is impossible to cover the cost of any new project.So far the only truly profitable developers are the ones buying old buildings and renovating them, or finishing buildings still left mid-built from the 2008 crisis.
>>221243136That's how cities should be. People should be concentrated tightly and with easy access to nature and countryside rather than being stuck in amerishart suburban hellscapes for hours to get somewhere interesting
>>221245543I exactly stayed at a hotel in Alcorcón. I liked it. It’s not a walkable (just like suburbs in other countries), and at night the graffiti on the walls stands out, making it seem like a rough area, but it’s not that bad. You can buy anything in shopping malls nearby, as long as you have a car. I really wanted to live there. I felt like it's Saitama of Spain.
>>221246195Pls Tanaka-kun teach me to read moon runnes!!
>>221246195How is it not walkable? it literally has everything at a 5min walking distance, subway, rail and buses all over. Maybe that hotel was in the service area of a highway or something
>>221246109This is a good thing. Spaniards should suffer immensely for all the cruelties they inflicted. The genocide of almost two entire continents and the construction of huge slave camps in the great silver mines of Potosí and Cerro de Pasco, where generations toiled in darkness for a foreign god with a white face who never smiled or granted those poor souls grace
>>221246281wtf dude not cool
>>221245477Speaking of Japan, I think there are differences between the Tokyo metropolitan area and the Kansai metropolitan area too. Everyone lives in Tokyo look down on people live in Saitama or Chiba, because they live in suburbs of Tokyo. In the Kansai region, Osaka is the center of the metropolis, but cities like Kyoto and Kobe have developed independently, so they have their own distinct characters. Probably you're talking about a city like Tokyo, which has kind of endless suburbs but still there are hotspots like Chiba or Saitama (they are also full of commieblocks).
>>221246109Why is that the case?
>>221246281what genocide
>>221246403Kansai people have more soul and are more humble/nicer than Tokyoite bugmen proud of slaving in the hiveThe soul of Japan is in the center and south, not in Kanto and the frigid Emishi-populated savage tundra in the north
>>221246266>How is it not walkable?I mean it was not enough compared to Tokyo which railway network is spread out like a spider's web. The area around my hotel was obviously designed car-friendly.
>>221246521>The soul of Japan is in the center and south, not in Kanto and the frigid Emishi-populated savage tundra in the northkek I'm Emishi person myself. But I understand what you want to say. It's really global thing Southerners are warmer than norfs.
>>221246464energy prices through the roof which causes all materials to go up in price, more strict requirements and building codes, also a lot of people who used to work in construction have or are retiring, and on top of everything because reputation of construction has been ruined by the 2008 crisis and NIMBYism no young people wants to work in construction. If you go to any construction site the average age is like 50.
>>221246711>energy prices through the roofgovernment fault>more strict requirements and building codesgovernment fault>the 2008 crisisJews and government fault
>>221246597>Not comparable to TokyoWhat a surpriseA car is still not needed to move around there
>>221246711What do immigrants do then for work? Cant they work in construction?
>>221246921Then can, but they wont do It, You can live justo as well of givs
>>221246877OK, I lost. I admit it's walkable city. Alcorcón is a walkable city.
>>221246711People see cranes and they start yelling "Real Estate bubble"
yeah
>>221244370>American suburbs that just have a desert on the other side of the roadWhy would they plant trees in the desert? Stupid finnshit
>>221247706Oh that's not what I meant, just that it looks funny when it's a desert instead of a forest or something like that. Even though in practice they're the exact same thing
>>221243136I wish our cities were like that
>>221248087Dumb finnshit can't articulate what he really means
>>221248169I went back and looked at what I posted, I seem to have said it looks trees look "more normal" but I didn't request that they should plant trees
>>221248272I accept your defeat
>>221243136It does, yeah. In many places our "suburbs" are just commieblocks.
>>221243136eastern euro maxxed
>>221247334truethey also think housing prices are going to collapse any time soon for whatever reason, just like in 2008, except this time there isn't going to be any surplus because we haven't been building at all.
>>221243308Odd, even neighboring countries like France have suburbs, you would think Franco would support home ownership
>>221243271lol
>>221243136No. Hungarian cities are just historic center, commie block projects then just villages basically. There is even a saying that "Budapest is the biggest village in the country" Pic related, 5th biggest city in the country, 10 minutes from the "downtown" area
>>221243136yes, this is the last street of my city
>>221246355>>221246489The worst part is that neither you nor Jesus were white, so it's baffling why you showed him with a white face. Rastafarians had the right idea
>>221243271I like this contrast between human space and then just complete emptiness >>221245558same>>221245729>>221245781kino
>>221243136Franco won.
