There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet
SWEDEN YES
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And Imam Ali is his successor
>>221261489you lost me
>>221261412I'm eating prosciutto and staring at my gf in her sluty yoga shorts. No islam for me
ash hadu
>>221261489Honestly from what ive read shias were completely in the right and sunnis in the wrong when it comes to this dispute. He was the rightful caliph aswell as a very devout muslim and also in general a good person and ruler
>>221261556I thought this too, I was like "this is the normal and sane position to have"Then I saw all the Shia rituals and it was some real crazy shit, no wonder people think that's the "insane" sect
>>221261556The entire Muslim world got irreversibly fucked by the first fitna. Shiites went insane and started worshipping Ali and Hussain after taking Ls forever, and while they pretend to be normal Sunnis were actually left with a ton of warped theology that was clearly made up to justify all the evil shit that the Umayyads did.The current situation of the insane Shiite apocalypse cult in Iran versus Sunni fundamentalists ruled by corrupt as shit monarchs who don't take their religion seriously at all is a direct repetition of this conflict.
everybody itt got better knowledge about the succession than me
>>221261412it seems disrespectful to God to put Muhammad's name in the Islamic profession of faith. Just a thought. Idolatrous almost.
>>221261793Dont worry God said it was okay
>>221261412I will zutt in you like those sweaty men zutted all over your prophets tight asshole
>>221261848yes but by way of an angel by way of muhammada bit of a game of telephone
>>221261556Im of similar mind tooBut I dislike how shias followed all of his descendants up to the 12(or 49)
>>221261608I would say that they could've survived the first fitna, but the second ruined everything forever
>>221261887Yeah shi iism took a really weird path after ali and his sons deaths basically became a personality cult of the ali family and after they all died it turned into something completely unrecognizable compared to actual islam to the point where sunnis saying shi ism isnt even really islam are kind of right as if shias were to be sent back in time to muhammeds or alis time they would all be killed for being extreme heretics
>>221261723Aren't you taught about it since early age?
>>221262022There were shia sects that outright worshipped Ali. Ghulat, they were called. Some of the twelver imams actually needed to speak against them.There a few niggas that went as far as saying Muhammad was a usurper and Ali was the true prophet.This was never mainstream shia though. However since most shias no longer have a imam some of them went into very weird paths
>>221261887I'm not well read here as this thread, but purely from a pragmatic pov wouldn't it be good to de-couple the khalif postion from the Ahl al-Bayt? Ali was a capable and a good leader, but the other sub-tribes of the quraysh would fear being sidelined
>>221261556Wahabi dogs slaughtered Sayiduna Ali ibn Al Ashtar (alaihiselam) but by the Prophet, the followers of milk of the tits do Aisha will perished like the banu Yazid
>>221262074Probably, yes. There were many "muslims" which only paid lip service to the religion. The first umayyad caliph for instance
>>221262075Al Ashtar was one of Ali's commanders
