>'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.'
>>221289994Islam is so clearly made-up like how they believe in this
>>221289994>he will have an ever-erect penisthat doesn't sound very comfortable
It's only for martyrs and the hadiths for it arent the most reliable anyways, especially this erect penis versikn72 isnt a literal number anyways just a way of saying "a lot"
>>221290081The cope has begun
>>221290108sorry for interrupting your circlejerk but just barged in to educate you since your kind will soon HAVE to convert or learn the intrinsics if you want to persist for another gen or two
>>221290183I'll never convert to this retarded pedo misogynistic religion
>>221290295>misogynisticMarry me angel
>>221289994islam is a satanic sex cult
>>221290295>misogynistic
>>22129036790% of your women are sexually mutilated
>>221290453>90% of your women are sexually mutilatedNot le hecking clitirinos!
>>221289994>>221290081>72 wives>2 houris>70 women from hellI never heard of this Hadith before
>>221290081>ot's only for martyrsOh wowzee
If I die and go to heaven, can I get my foreskin back?
>>221290500what for? you'll be always erect you would not see your foreskin
>>221290525I had a botched circumsision when I was a kid.
>>221290543Like million of muslim boys
>>221290543Alhamdulillah it's almost as if the foreskin is meant to stay attached! A jinn is farting in your ears brozza astaghfirullah
>>221290081uts in the quran you worthless dipshit
>>221290562>LARPing this hard
>>221290081>>221290565just so this taqiyya fuck fkesmt convince youits mentioned multiple fucking timeshttps://surahquran.com/aya-54-sora-44.htmlhttps://surahquran.com/Explanation-aya-22-sora-56.htmlhttps://surahquran.com/Explanation-aya-20-sora-52.html
>>221289994You take salafi terrorists beliefs way too seriously. They're saudi shills and probably jews as well.Most muslims dont believe in that literally
>>221289994sounds alright. how do I join?
>>221290631Stockholm syndrome retard
>>221290660>Didn't even use the كواعب اتراب verseKek it's over for this murtad. Seething this hard and you don't even remember half the book
>>221289994How can millions believe this shit
>>221290696youre not even making a point just admitting you got btfo basicallyal nabaa doesnt have what i want to show which is an open mention of hoor al ein sp your taqqiya ass cant weasel out
>>221290666Most muslim are ignorant, but it is Sunni Islam, Ijma for the 4 madhab
>>221290565>>221290660You're seething so hard you missed the point of my post, never said houriat arent real only that the hadith he mentioned is dubiousCongrats on the cortisol spike at 8am
>>221290666The baseline for islam is "salafi", that's what the word means literally lol following what the prophet and his companions saidYeah the heckin inclusive peaceful dancing drugged up turks in skirts arent really muslim sorry bro
>>221290756anons who arent this faggot you be the judge yourself here if this is taqqiya or i misunderstood him>>221290081>>221290565>>221290660god your tactics are so obvious and so overused
>70 sex demon girls and a pair of angels too, and endless libido so i can fuck as much as i wantWhat is the catch?
>>221290733billion+*>>221290796you have to spend eternity with bearded arabs
>>221290780You should calm down and log off you're clearly not in a good mental state to argue
>>221289994this is why my ancestor and i choose islam
>>221290855it fascinates me so much how online or irl muslim tactics are the same
>>221290796you have to submit to religious authorities in this life and follow retarded rules from 7th Arab century
anyone have that webm of only the camel knowing what happened? if you know what i mean
>>221290883Im being genuine tho, point out where i said houris arent real and point out where in the quran 72 is mentioned. You'll also find that hadiths who have big numbers of houris regardless of their veracity or not usually tie it to martyrs. The more accepted ones are usually for overall muslims in the paradise and usually mention two wives.
>>221290007Two ways,> be born into it and get bombarded with intense brainwashing from day one > get bombarded by your muslim "friends" into how amazing it will be if you could just join their cult and they lie to you heavily about it (which is 75% of converts leave after 2-3 years of actually studying the religion).It is wild to sometimes debate a cradle muslim and see how the brainwashing takes over, their eyes almost go blank and they autistically parrot the same phrases:>islam is a mercy to humanity>the prophet is the greatest of all mankind, he would never do that and if he did she was a fully grown woman at 6>we respect all religions>yes they deserved to die for being filthy mushrikun, I don't see the problem>yes, we respect all religions and everyoneBack in momo's time people just joined for the free sex slaves, when he died there was so much mass apostasy his successors had to launch a war to kill apostates and as some scholars have said, if they hadn't slaughtered the apostates islam would've died there.
>>221290951yeah same with every muslim salafi dipshit i talked toits not working man
>>221290565>>221290660>>221290780Holy based slime sniper
>>221290367>>221290453>islam is the first feminist religion
>>221290939I second this, by whabbi bugho
>>221290666>the salafi gambitNigga, did you really buy the propaganda? The problem is the very religion itself. From the hideous pamphlet called the quran to their degenerate, bisexual, powerbottom, mentally ill false prophet - it's all rotten.
>>221291005>which is 75% of converts leave after 2-3 years of actually studying the religion).Lala land proselytizer fantasies (or rather projections from christian convert experiences)>>221291029>I cantOkHave a great rest of your day
>>221290772I can respect a person that is unashamedly honest about their religion.Well-done.
>>221291088I'm fully convinced the reason you seethe at Islam so much is because you're butthurt about Spaniards not giving a fuck about religion and need to feel like you're religion is coming back any day now through politicizing it. Nigga it's over accept it already
I feel bad for Muslims. Islam is literally the no fun allowed religion
>>221291153Not really. Fairly certain I told my reasons why to the other masri, the murtadd that's pretty based most of the time.In no particular chronological order:>get involved more into the wider missionary community >meet many murtadds in the middle east>live in the middle east for a bit >study islam and the history of islam intensely for about 3-4 years, several hours a day>undo the insane "muh abrahamic religion" propaganda>routinely teach Christians at church, particularly young ones, on counterdawah mechanics>etc.It's impossible to take a serious look at it and not realize it is the number one enemy of humanity, a destroyer of societies and civilization, a complete and utter subhumanizing force.
>>221290007All religions are very silly.
>>221291140>atheist to christian ever.Kek no one raised in a MENA muslim household is becoming christian. Even if an atheist dislikes Islam they still see christianity as the schizo religion where people cant decide if God is three schizo entities at once that plead for itself while dying from a self-inflicted flagellation. I believe your post i just not worded correctly and you're using spanish syntax in english so it doesn't convey the original "wishful thinking" connotation
>>221289994>Islam says don't be debauched>Actually afterlife for good muslims is goonmaxxed hedonist dimension that would make a furry with a scat fetish blushreally makes u think
>>221291264I don't even care about religion I'm just a misogynist and enjoy watching how Islam makes f*ids suffer and the ultimate irony of westoid liberals and feminists being so desperate to defend Islam and Muslims despite supposedly being le champions of le human rights or whatever.Still this cope is just sad. Dawah isn't a real issue iyc compared to how atheism is absolutely reaming every modern religion. Organized religion will be dead and buried in ASSpain before Muslims ever get a controlling stake iyc. You're just coping man
>>221291411you may think this taqqiya is new but it's actually pretty stale>i don't care about this religion bro which is why i defend it
Denounce Mohammed right now
>>221291305The fun is this life is only allowed for Muhammad and religious authorities (who get away from everything)
>>221291433I can sense your panic and terror through the screen. You should stop being so obsessed and assblasted about Islam on a Mongolian throat singing forum mister murtad. Just avoid Syrians like the plague and don't wear skirts or whatever in public and you probably won't get stabbed.Still: Momo got his tight little brown bussy GAPED by Big ZVTT cock all day long and came buckets in sissy orgasms on the night of Al-ZVTT and he LOVED every moment of it. Happy now? I just hate women
>>221291455مُحَمَّدٌ ﷺ هو خاتمُ الأنبياءِ والمرسلين، اصطفاهُ اللهُ تعالى رحمةً للعالمين، وأرسلهُ بالهدى ودينِ الحقّ ليُظهرهُ على الدينِ كلّه ولو كرهَ المشركون. هو الصادقُ الأمين، الذي اجتمعت فيه مكارمُ الأخلاق، فكان أكرمَ الناسِ نفسًا، وأعظمَهم حلمًا، وأوسعَهم صدرًا، وأشدَّهم رحمةً بالضعفاءِ والمساكين، حتى قال الله تعالى في حقّه: ﴿وَإِنَّكَ لَعَلَىٰ خُلُقٍ عَظِيمٍ﴾.هو الرحمةُ المهداة، والنورُ الذي أضاء اللهُ به ظلماتِ الجهل، فبلّغ الرسالةَ وأدّى الأمانةَ ونصحَ الأمةَ، وجاهد في الله حقَّ جهاده، حتى أتمَّ اللهُ به الدينَ وأكملَ به النعمة. كان رؤوفًا بأمته، حريصًا على هدايتهم، شفيقًا بهم، يدعو لهم بالخير ويخاف عليهم من الشر، حتى قال الله تعالى: ﴿لَقَدْ جَاءَكُمْ رَسُولٌ مِّنْ أَنفُسِكُمْ عَزِيزٌ عَلَيْهِ مَا عَنِتُّمْ حَرِيصٌ عَلَيْكُم بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ رَءُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ﴾.اللهم صلِّ وسلم وبارك عليه، عدد ما ذكره الذاكرون وغفل عن ذكره الغافلون، صلاةً دائمةً متصلةً إلى يوم الدين.
>>221291517صلى الله عليه و سلم
>>221291210In heaven you can do whatever you want, even having an orgy with your wives (I'm not sure about this one though)
>>221291497see that'd be threatening and i'd have a panic attack if it didn't come from your flagnot the best image either since you keep reporting the spanish anon
>>221291497There is a lot of homosexuality in Islam, read the fiqh and other texts, imams said do not stay alone with young beardless boys because the temptation is too high LMAO
>>221291565But the women can't have 72 virgin boys
>>221291678You watch too many Shia videos on social media
>>221291678he's a retard that posts in every thread about birth rates that islam will fix it even doe he is not a muslim o algoeven doe egypt's tfr is 2.4 and dropping fast
>>221290873didn't they do it for cheaper carpets o algo assim
>>221291714That's because egyptians are on a false creed and dont fully apply islam
>>221291762>Morocco's total fertility rate (TFR) has dropped below the replacement level of 2.1, reaching approximately 1.97 children per womanso which country does?
>>221291851none, because real Islam make people too miserable
>>221291699>Ibn Taymiyyah wrote in Majmu‘ al-Fatawa that looking at a handsome beardless youth could be more tempting to some people than looking at women, and he warned against seclusion or repeated gazing.>Al-Ghazali discussed the issue in Ihya’ ‘Ulum al-Din. He warned spiritual students against emotional attachment or desire directed toward handsome youths.>Ibn al-Jawzi wrote entire condemnations of infatuation with youths in works criticizing uncontrolled desire and moral corruption.>Sufyan al-Thawri is quoted in later sources as warning strongly against being alone with attractive beardless youths.
>>221291851Afghanistan, they're slamming cunny left and right and will outlive all of us
>>221291940In Malaysia we have so many Muslim men without beard, how come we don't end up gay?
>>221291998You're not perveted Arabs
>>221291411>to how atheism is absolutely reaming every modern religion. Organized religion will be dead and buried in ASSpain before Muslims ever get a controlling stake iycI find it interesting how you say you don't care yet repeat the "godless degens" arabic/islamic rhetoric.Truth is that's very far from the reality on the ground. Maybe at one point a decade ago to half a decade ago, but it's no longer the case. The ebb and flow of religious vigor <=> secularization, at this moment, is in the religious vigorization phase, I'd say give it a couple of decades until secularism phase kicks in again. Our current stock of atheists are actually boomers, lots of young people started attending mass these days.>PicrelWhat is wrong with you people? How are you so absolutely thin-skinned you call the muzzjannie over on irc?
>>221292041Based janny
>>221291948Aren't they too busy faminemaxxing rn?
>>221291411>>221292041You should honestly evaluate why you're so thin-skinned you need to summon your muzzjannie instead of dealing with things.
>>221292041>t.
>>221292116I don't understand Spanish but that was brutal, man. Over 400 loanwords?
>>221292116>t. uses aramaic all the time
>>221290183The days of major religions with big numbers of practicing believers are numbered in the developed world.
>>221292167It was through wi-fi technology we all know andalus was fake and a christian brown utopia and islam was forged by ibn taymiah in his prison cell
>>221292207Insane take. Do you live in some perroflauta bubble?
>>221292041Taqiyyah doesn't let you say Mohammed got absolutely fucked and raped in his asshole until it bled by Pajeet noggers who had protoBBC. Every organized religion will die in the 21st century because atheism spares no one and EVERY religion is hemorrhaging believers fast. Still if Islamism can be used to get people used to repressing f*ids with the excuse that Allah wants it, before switching to purely political reasons for keeping foids shackled once religion dies, then it's completely worth it. I just intensely disagree with the invention of "women's rights"
>>221292238You forgot to take your pills.
>>221292238I like this isekai
>>221292299>he doesn't know the handful of white liberal women who converted are allying with the girlboss muslimas to feminize islam successfully KEK
>>221292361Literal non-issue in the grand scheme of things. White liberal f*ids are too bluepilled about the reality of Islam, and are too fond of le poor wittle browns, to actually ideologically mobilize against islamism in any real form. Plus the language and culture barrier is HUGE compared to any other religion in a world where most Europeans still haven't read the Quran even though it's the future of several states (Brussels is already majority muslim) because most people are painfully intellectually lazy.Also the plague of feminism doesn't spread through women because women have 0 power to enforce laws or demands themselves, especially not against the 0 fucks given attitude of islamist jihadis. That particular poison spreads through governments, legislation, NGO strongarming heads of state, IMF/globalist legal coercion, etc. Very few Arab leaders have the balls to push matriarchal laws like in the kaffir West because they're all terrified of getting a second 1979 revolution or the impending Arab Spring 2.0 once pressure in MENA finally explodes. Whatever you're describing is limited to top0.1% upper-class gated communities and diaspora communities where this dialogue is enabled, protected, and enforced by already matriarchal foreign states who are similarly scared of an islamist chimp out and can only "boil the frog" ideologically. Islamism is still a very viable counter to matriarchy.
>>221292299>Still if Islamism can be used to get people used to repressing f*ids with the excuse that Allah wants it, before switching to purely political reasons for keeping foids shackled once religion dies, then it's completely worth it. I just intensely disagree with the invention of "women's rights"OK this is finally a good argument for Islam
>>221292250>anon calls me crustyI've been worming for 20+ years, and nobody I know cares about the 3-in-1 guy nailed to a cross, the pedo-Momo, or the pokemon-tier hindu gods. About 10 years ago I was flirting with a girl and a momo-beggar asked me for a dime claiming he was a good muslim, it was somehow hilarious... Are you claiming extra cred because you believe in old fairy tales?
>>221292787Working
>>221290565>flag ah yes, the true expert has spoken
>islam thread >420 replies Jeet coded board
>>221292299>>221292529
>>221294808You know what's funny? I barely seen Israeli flags in Islam hate threads.
>>221290796Actually those are Christian and Jewish girlsSahih Muslim Book 37, Hadith 6665, 6666Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said:When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire.
>>221289994What do women get in paradise
>>221289994worse writing than muh isekai adolescent power fantasies>>221290027you can get this from some venoms, so if you want it let a scorpion sting you or a snake bite you right now. would wanna test it first before you try ascending to that paradise and can't get down again.yeah it becomes very painful after a while, so it's more like a curse, or it would be if allahu hadn't enchanted it.
>>221289994What the fuck is the point of sex drive if the population is immortal and in perfect condition?
>>221295320I never heard of these Hadiths before. Are they legit or made by Shias and Sufis?
>>221295320What happens if you get an uggo? Are you stuck with her in perpetuity?
>>221295320If these Hadiths were authentic, does that mean I can marry an Irish girl in heaven?>inb4 Catholics aren't Christian
>>221291565>Having to wait to die for having funInfinite cope
>>221296898All humans will die. This world is just a test.
>>221295320>Actually those are Christian and Jewish girlsThat's literally not what the hadith says are you illiterate.
>>221295208Judaism, like Islam, is a disgusting religion
>>221295539Their only gifts are choosing which door to enter to heaven and not feeling jealous kek
>>221297367You are black and Protestant.
>>221297183>[female] dwellers of hell>Jews and ChristiansAre you?
>>221297445I'm free, high IQ, do not follow anything, especially retarded religions
>>221297618Please go back to /r/Atheism and stay there.
>>221297694I will not listen to a mahométan
>>221297750You are not white.
>>221295208My main issue with Israelis (or rather Jews in general) is they're still incredibly naïve in thinking islam is not an abominable death cult and that the problem is some "handful of weirdos who don't represent islam" and that anyone can coexist with muslims (only possible if you use extreme force to keep them under your boot and that's only if their numbers are low enough).
>>221295320>Actually those are Christian and Jewish girlsHouris are semitransparent, hymen regrowing beings that even just a look at the earth would leave mankind in awe.They're not Christians and Jews lmao
>>221297001There is no test. You´re not in highschool
>>221297992*tips fedora*
>>221297694You people are infinitely more insufferable than atheist soyjaks. Your religion is cancer. You guys castrate women and marry 12 year olds. You´re fucking disgusting.+ i would kms if I were malay as well.Chink + muslim + manlet + small dick + thirdie. Infinite suicide material>>221297848if you can´t do 10 pull ups, you are infinitely below nigger tier
>>221297549Houris are completely separate entities from humans so no your headcanon/mental gymnastics dont make sense
>>221297001>>221297992>>221298014NL:>has not attained awareness of the looshfarming playground this worldMalaychad:>has broken through the matrix and become one with the Pleroma
>>221298088You are a nigger. Nice selfie by the way. Is that your husband?
>>221298014what fucking test btw?the test about getting oil and resources and still being thirdie?the test about trying not to rape a 12 year old for 1 minute?the test of not eating pork (bismillah!)what fucking test you ching chong mashallah?The only test you need is the resident visa for first world countries. Take it btw, our cuck government welcomes you with legs opened
>>221298088>marry 12 year oldsAlmost twice the age of what muslim men prefer. Have you not seen all the pedo indogs and arabs?
>>221298154>>221298173>Trolling outside of /b/You are not white. You will never be Aryan ubermench. Deal with it.
Don't you see it's an Arab coomer religion?
>>221298154>the test of not eating pork (bismillah!)They say bismillah for everything kek>Sheikh Abu Kelb says one must say bismillah when entering the bathroom and always enter with the left foot, or the Shaytan will grope your intestinesUnironically there is a yt video of some islamic preacher talking on how the Shaytan grabs your rectum and makes noises with it keeeeeeeeek
>>221298250If i read the part from before the hadith starts and ignore the hadith sure
>>221291455Na, let's see your oud tho
>>221290007It's not like the invisible Jew in the sky and his zombie carpenter Jew son are any better
>>221298381>he got bullied on Reddit>he got bullied on /pol/
>>221290183I want to keep my foreskin
>>221298346>2 Billion brownies obsess with the handful of white retards that join their cult
>>221298225Nah the real coomer religion is Hindu
>>221291005>his successors had to launch a war to kill apostates and as some scholars have said, if they hadn't slaughtered the apostates islam would've died there.Whats the name for this, i want to read up on them
>>221298347Better in every single way, egypsissy.>>221298381Lol it's not just the afghans. There is a classic muslim play of every bad thing is not muslims it's X group (no, it's incredibly common). Speak to any middle eastern ex muslim guy and they'll openly tell you how normal it is to have some old dude proposition you sex when you're just 10-12.
The samefagging amount in this thread is so damn high.
>>221298416Nah don´t worry. I just came here to rantSeeing that this former white utopia is now a muslim shithole just sucks. When I hear a bunch of somalis speaking like monkeys, or a nafri spitting all his guts on the ground, i just think: Shit man, this used to be almost non-existent here 30 years ago.Oh yeah, and every major city in Netherlands has a mosque nearby the train station.It´s just nuts. Going out = getting black pill constantly.>>221298440I know Barcelona and most major cities are shitholes, but the worst is to come. I tell you man, be openly racist as much you can be. Let them know they are not welcome. Those mother fuckers breed like rabbits, and the only way back is genocide
>>221291271Only a logiclet and philosophylet and historylet could think Christianity is silly. You’re not as smart as you think you are. You’re just one degree of separation from Muslims actually.
Buddhism is also pretty retarded but Islam takes the cake. It’s a low brow religion for low IQ inbreds incapable of second order reasoning. Unfortunately, Westerners are also increasingly incapable of second order reasoning as well.
>>221298381In Islam, women who do not wear hijab are owned by everyone and it's halal to rape them
>>221298554I hope one day you get caught by the police for death threats like that /pol/ poster who said he wants to kill a cop in Minecraft.
>>221298225If you do a comparative analysis of civilizations, it’s pretty clear that in every civilization a quasi-religious cope dogma comes in at the mid-point and becomes the official ideology of empire in the late stage. That’s what happened with Indian Buddhism, Roman Stoicism, and ultimately Arab Islam. The funny thing about Arab Islam is that the cope was basically “if you promote sharia and the prophet’s obviously fake claims you’ll get pussy”. It’s the only religion in all world-history where the copes ever stooped so low.
>>221298610>>221298614Take this test malay boyPretty sure there are some non-hijabi women you can rape around
>>221298610Based i do this every day btw
I hate arabs
>>221298484Ridda wars. >>221298381That said, the true problem in islam is not the trickling of momo's excessive OCD into daily life. It's more the fact that it causes quite a few severely negative outcomes on a society, essentially destroying it:>IQ - both the huge inbreeding + issues with the religion's impediment of intellectual development have kept them a full standard deviation under the rest>Morality - almost every moral value is inverted, to the point of words being irreconcilable (Christian Honor vs islamic Honor are extremely different, same for justice, etc.). Not to mention, a culture flooded with hatred and contempt and backstabbing.>Trust - NEVER buy into the arab myth of "we are all hospitable people in the middle east", it's possibly the most hypocritical backstabbing place on Earth, where everybody larps as hyper muslim and speaks in extremely flowery language ("O father of the youth, may I...") yet will triple backstab each other, side effect of the insane tribalism islam perpetuates >Families - they produce some of the most dysfunctional families on Earth, the insane levels of abuse that go on produce broken people, not to mention in plenty of families the children of the first family have huge hatred for their half siblings >Homelessness - tied to the above two points, they are flooded with beggar children because they have to be abandoned due to various reasons (zina, poverty, etc.).I could go on for hours. Most of the niggered here are massive copers and some of us that have actually lived in MENA, almost married into an arab family, and know a shit ton of people there and what actually goes on know better.
>>221298534>samefaggingNo, its just that no one likes your retarded make religion
>>221298703Based, kids of extra marital relationships and women into them deserve the streets treatment
>>221298656>this nigger can't stop thinking about rape 24/7You know what? Someday I'm gonna marry a redhead and we have ginger kids. I'm gonna bring my wife and kids to a redhead festival in Breda. You will stuck in this hellhole website forever and you will fap to tranny porn on /gif/ without leaving your seat. I'm dead serious.
>>221298703I like your stuff.You seem well informed.Thanks for the red pills.Best wishes for you btw.As far I know, the most experienced people in Islam are those who lived it in first hand but were smart enough to not join(basically non-muslim MENAs and apostates)I also met a coptic egyptian. Nice guy. Least toxic MENA i´ve ever met too.I gotta say that thirdie mentality is the worst. But in most (and worst) cases, it´s usually muslim as well
>>221298703>Since all horses and trained camels were brought by main army to Balqa, tradition has it that Abu Bakr and the rest of the Haras forces that were left in the capital had to resort to fighting the rebels with only untrained camels>These pack camels, being untrained for battle, bolted when Hibal, the rebel commander at Zhu Hussa, made a surprise attack from the hills; as a result, the Muslims could not control their untrained camels and decided to retreat toward Medina, and the rebels recaptured the outposts that they lost a few days earlier
>>221298764>A marriage so rare it even makes it to the newsThe ammount of musliminas dating kaffirs is so high is unreal. If I open a tinder profile anywhere in Malaysia, i´d end up banging half of the city.You would be virtually invisible here.Can you do 10 pull ups btw?
>>221298832YOU ARE A NIGGER. N.I.G.G.E.R.
Oh oh melty
>>221298554>I tell you man, be openly racist as much you can be.Not a problem here, people are openly extremely anti-muslim. We have frequent muzz hunts happening in smaller towns where the leftist government has to send in tons of police to protect the muslims.The current national conversation isn't even on whether we should hate islam, we know we do, it's mostly how far can we go KEK Pedro Sánchez is basically the opposite of the current sentiment.>>221298703To add to this, another big one is social strife. there is an issue with islam's system of relationships, their "nikkah" (badly translated as marriage) is essentially bride purchasing. There is a brideprice (mahr), often set by the dad/guardian (wali), which you pay in return for sex (this is notable that in divorce you get the money back if you didn't bang her). That combined with polygyny, huge corruption and dysfunctional society leads to wealthier men defacto hoarding women and large amounts of young, unmarried, and unemployed men, which is highly linked to social strife and conflict. They kinda handle this with inbreeding, which has enormous problems and not just genetically, there is a strong understanding that one of the revolutions of Christianity in Europe was the replacing of tribalism with a more connected society.
>>221298703There’s nothing to destroy. Arab civilization before Islam was shit. It was shit after Mohammed. Even at its height, it was an umbrella of desert tribals and armies that failed to even control their hinterlands. Imagining any of this was ever high culture or civilization is a stretch.
I'm a brown atheist. What's next? I still don't have money or have seen any improvement.
kek post more hadithjaks
>>221298878We have to figure it out ourselves
>>221298848Ooo, such an insult. He called me a black folk!
>>221298832>>221298848>Malaysia returning under full Dutch control
>>221298440Twas a harmless american psycho skit. Though you alluded to something about white supremacism, which cannot stand before the call of the creator.For it is said when truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood is by its nature bound to perish.
>>221298894Like in real life.
>>221298876Unironically it was better in the jahiliyyah. They usually cope by repeating the "they buried le girls!" myth kekWas the era of peak arab poetry, imru al qais was so good even momo plagiarized some of his stuff into the quran
>>221289994he basically lived an irl bersion of muslim heavenmashallah
>>221298930>MassageHoly kek 81 IQ confirmed: >>221298866
>>221298952Stop being edgy you Evangelicuck. Didn't I send a report few minutes ago? Why are you still here.
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>>221298703>side effect of the insane tribalism islam perpetuates I see this claim pretty often but I've never seen a good explanation for it. Why are our countries so tribalistic?
>>221299007So thin-skinned kekYour muzzjannie is on irc, the egypsissy usually is the one to call him to ban me
>>221298866I know many spaniard conservatives are still afraid of the typical "what if the call me facha". I know gen Zs are less cucky about it.Pedro sanchez... El gran perro. The Peter.Random plot twist btwSoy español viviendo en holanda.I feel like spain is just 20 years behind of what is the rest of Europe (regarding immigration). That´s why I already see a very dark future in Spain. The future is in Czechia and Poland. And Slovenia maybe too.>>221298848Look malay boy, the mods are in favor of you haha. I got a warning from 4chan. Haha, the f*cking irony. Even this board cucks for your kind.If I don´t answer i might be banned. Inshallah
>>221298930Why would there be a decline option?
>>221299038>>221299041VPN off now.
>>221298942yeah, like, ooh, so scarylike, nibba, you´re malay. 0 f*cking aura. Manlet and weak ethnicity. What ching chong gonna do? Pray harder, maybe allah will make you fuckable
>>221299022I remember doing a deep dive into this some time ago. Gimme a sec to open up obsidian
>>221299088>malay aura
>>221299081calling nigger and "VPN off". Nigga, is that all you got? What a fucking failure of a test you´re faliing
>>221299088I hope someday your girlfriend got raped by Hells Angels. Oh wait, you don't have one. You are still virgin.
>>221298883My favorite
>>221298883The classic
>>221299132>Nigga believe in angelsI dind´t know angels can rape too. What a fucking joke of religion innit? I thought you were supposed to be judged in the after life? Not during?What type of shit test is this?
>>221299193Hells Angels is a biker gang you underage troll. Go watch Sons of Anarchy and don't skip season 3.
>>221299041Joer, pues vuelve.>>221299022Last one is broader, as for the why, I think ibn khaldun himself touched on it w.r.t asabiyya:https://historicalpsychology.fas.harvard.edu/assets/files/schulz-2022-kin-networks-and-institutional-development.pdfhttps://genealogiesofmodernity.org/journal/2021/3/17/marriage-made-us-weirdhttps://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2021/01/04/128-joe-henrich-on-the-weirdness-of-the-west/https://cat-int.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Terrorism-and-Political-Violence-The-effects-of-religion-on-domestic-conflicts-Jonathan-Fox-Vol.-10-Issue-4-1998.pdf
>>221299272El dinerito though. El curro paga bien xd>>221299193>>221299258oooooooh hells angels, thooose... yeah, never seen one irl. I thought those were in USA
>>221299022>>221299272That said I highly recommend two books:>Dominion by T. Holland>Rise of Early Modern Science: Islam, China, and the West by T. Huff
>>221299320Todo se puede, yo aquí estoy con unos 10k/mes, aunque estoy en fintech
>>221289994i think islam is the stupidest of the major religions, mostly because other religions tend to emphasise for the most part that the afterlife is a continual euphoric state beyond human understanding. there's a few scant desciptions here and there but most could be argued as metaphorsislam by contrast is very concrete and specific about heaven. and what do you know, it's exactly what a 7th century retard would have imagined as heaven, and is almost entirely based on material and earthly pleasures. >they'll be like, silk pillows and shit>and the sun won't be too hot>and there'll be fruit, and honey>and the water won't be dirty>there'll be like a river of milk, and one of wine>but the wine will be halal to drink up there, for some reason>and there'll be nice cups and dishes>and u never have to take a shit>and you'll have like a gorillion young sex slaves you can rape all the timeit's so obviously bullshit>>221298883here
>>221299371WTF putísima madre ole túYo cobro como mucho 5k al mes en una empresa Offshore (he dicho mucha mierda, no digo cuál xd). Soy topógrafo de baja categoría though. Aún no he escalado en la pirámide corporativa
>>221289994>72 languages after the fall of Babel>72 disciples of Confucius>72 disciples of Jesus>72 Elders of Sinai>72 apostles of Set>72 names of God>72 demons summoned by Solomon>72 transformations of Sun-Wukong>72 dhammas>72 children of El and AsherahThis number shows up all the time in religion and no one explains what it's supposed to mean. I hate this esoteric bullshit.
>>221299072>And we offered the "Trust" to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, and they declined to bear it, as they feared it; but man [undertook to] bears it.>It is therefore from the wonders of the great Compeller that He compels creation to be freeBefore the imagery of immense strength and stability in the creation are towering mountains, powerful rapids, the heaven and earth. submitting in perfect obedience before god, but is only the man who carries the true burden of choice; moral responsibility and accountability before the creator. It is the decree of the almighty, that man is condemned to be free.To quote the leper, your soul is in your keeping, you cannot stand before God and say, "But I was told by others to do thus," or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice.
>>221299605Declined
>>221299616I will remember this bavarian
>>221299460Long but hilarious muslim description of jannah https://jumpshare.com/s/hFM9Iv3Ebu66dxU7sK8J
>>221299605HuBal is not my god, the imported Palmyran god of the quraish is not and will never my God, YHWH.
How do they feel after dying and seeing heaven and hell aren't real
Is there an Islamic equivalent of megachurch pastor/prosperity gospel preachers? What types of Muslim grifters are there?
>>221299797They're more smaller and personal and take donations saying if you dont you'll go to hell
>>221299797Tarea al SuweidanKhaled al RashedMohammed bin Musa al NasrAmr KhaledMohammad Metwalli al Sha'rawiYusuf al QaradawiMohammed HassanAssim al HakeemI could go on for a while. Though with the youth you'd be surprised how far ali dawah and mimi hijab go
>>221299797>>221299958But if you want mostly only grifters:>Orthodox Muslim>Farid Responds>Deen Responds>Daniel Haqiqatjou>Central Dawah>Ali Dawah >Mohammed Hijab>The Warner>Sneako and Andrew Tate (if they count)>Zakir Naik>Ijaz the Trini>The EF Dawah clowns >Yaqeen institute clowns>Sapience institute clownsNot grifters but equally retarded:>Adnan Rashid>Hamza Tzortzis
>>221299712>Your god is hubal the magnificent, the baal of your forefathers, noo in our house we follow asherah the goddess of fertility, I'm following baal zephon only, watch your mouthMeaningless sophistry,there is only God.>And they attribute daughters to Allah- the opposite of what they desire for themselves.>When one of them is given the good tidings of a baby girl, his face darkens, as he suppress his anger.>He hides himself from his people, due to the [what he thinks] bad news he has received. Should he keep her in humiliation, or trample her in the ground?Evil indeed is his judgment!
I fuckin hate this green text system. Fix this up gookmoot
God is a cope
>>221300024>SophistryNope, this is the lazy muslim attempt at justifying their Hubal-worshipping cult.If Satan (which you guys don't believe in, Iblis and the Shaytan are different things to Christian Satan) appeared to some dude and told him, "yo I'm actually god, no no not the name YHWH, never heard of that, you can call me... Hmmm... Uh, 'Deus'", and people started worshipping him, they're not worshipping YHWH.Christians and Jews are Yahwists, you are Hubalists, which is in party why islam is the complete antithesis of Judaism and Christianity.
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>>221298497>Better in every single way, egypsissy.Not really lol, you just have centuries of advantage in picking and choosing.
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>>221290772Salafi is the protestant reform of islam.They pretend one thing but do another.Besides quite a few companions were in error>>221291088Why do you seethe so hard when you clearly never read anything about it?
>>221300249Honestly, I don't know if you're incredibly ignorant of islam, of Christianity, or both.From an objective point-of-view, eschewing the theological claims of both religions, the central personalities which form both a basis from which theology springs as well as the exemplary pattern of conduct, you see essentially complete opposites.Set of differences between momo and Jesus:>Jesus was not a bandit>Jesus didn't rape women or little girls or little boys>Jesus didn't slay his own kin>Jesus didn't proclaim non-Christians to be the worst of all creation>Jesus didn't prescribe a system of full subjugation and oppression of non-Christians>Jesus didn't proclaim an eternal, universal edict approving of the wholesale slaughter and enslavement of non-Christians >Jesus didn't give an eternal, universal edict validating the rape and sexual enslavement of non-Christian women >Jesus didn't give a message that was completely bathed in hatred and contempt for the non-Christians >Jesus didn't bang his adopted son's wife>Jesus didn't murder people>Jesus didn't torture people>Jesus didn't validate deceit and lying with a set of circumstances it is valid to do soThe list is pretty vast but most ex-muslims will tell you upfront two things completely shocked them about the Bible:>how well it reads compared to the disjointed, broken, repetitive mess of the quran (full of fear and doom)>how completely different Jesus and momo were, and the entire moral system that comes out of thatMore generally, islam has a trap of not only being incredibly violent due to it serving as the backbone of momo's bandit recruitment, but also is an extremely legalistic cult - Christianity legislates the spiritual, less so the rest hence being able to adapt.
>>221300449>t. the Algerian muzzilianIt's a tiny book, closer to a pamphlet; I've read it a few times, copious amounts of hadith and tafasir, and most of the sirat.>Salafi is the protestant reform of islamNigga, what most people hate is plain ol' islam. Why do you people always pretend the whole "no, those are salafi extremists, not muslims" when things everyone finds disgusting are core islam that any fuqaha of the four major madhahib would validate.The only vaguely salvageable sects are very far from the mainstream: alawites, duruz and ismailis
>>221300588Where can I find a non-soy copy of the quran?
>>221299962I think the pictures might have triggered his zoophile shame
>>221300588What's the point of lying?No one will fall for it.Your religion is long dead anyway
>>221289994how do all those foids get to paradise?
>>221300687>the foz do iguacu algerian continues copingI'm curious, why haven't you moved back to tetak's/jiddatek's lands?
>>221300714Muhhamed was a bit too busy with Aisha's cunny to flesh out the concept of female afterlife
>>221300648Fun fact, the main one (standardized in 1923/1924 in Egypt) isn't the only one, there are a few others with some contradictions.Muslims usually cope by saying "nooooo those are just differences in accent" but there are actual contradictions. Best cope I heard is from an Egyptian who said "they're all layers of meaning, so beautiful" kek>Quranhttps://thechristianprince.com/EBOOKS/The_Generous_Quran.pdfIt's from Dakdok, a Christian from Egypt iirc, who does a no nonsense translation (usual English translations are heavily redacted, with maybe pickthall not being so so edited).
>>221300850>maybe pickthallArberry is nice too
>>221300588>most of the sirat.Why do you insist on using words you dont know paco
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>>221300850Differences between quran versions come down to literally a consonant or vowel/tashkeel being different. Sorry you're upset our religion isnt a clusterfuck like your pagan elder scrolls tier 30 books with no continuity or verifiable authorship
>>221300961>elder scrolls tier 30 books with no continuity or verifiable authorshipBut enough about the ahadith.
>>221301008>Quran + Bukhari + muslim ( the 4 others and the albani being optional or complimentary)Oh no this is too complicated for my gorillion apocrypha and verses that get edited every other week
>>221300961How are you so retarded?https://www.nquran.com/ar/ayacompare/?sora=37&aya=12
>>221300961>Sorry you're upset our religion isnt a clusterfuck like your pagan elder scrolls tier 30 books with no continuity or verifiable authorshipAlso, quite untrue. Do you never actually look up what Metzger or Ehrman actually say after hearing some da'i quote them?
>>221301200You literally just proved my point, they even highlight it for your habitual liar gawri Ecuadorian beetles enthusiasts forum proselytizer
>>221291005>75% of converts leave after 2-3 years of actually studying the religionNot wanting to be the cunt who asks for a source, but source?
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>>221299460https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2544>Abu Ayyub narrated that a Bedouin came to the Prophet (s.a.w) and said:>"O Messenger of Allah, indeed, I love horses. Are there horses in Paradise?" >The Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said: "If you are admitted into Paradise, you shall be brought a horse of rubies with two wings, then you shall be carried on it, then it will fly with you wherever you want."What a happy coincidence
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>>221301331>"I did X", "you did X" and "they did X" are the exact same thingHoly kek thank you for being this retarded
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>>221301335Fairly easy to Google. For born muslims it's about ~24%-26%, though that's with the heavy social costs, so will probably increase as secularization advances.
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I'm convinced someone larping as an apostate (or maybe just a bored atheist really) is trolling the spaniard on discord or wherever people hang out these days to embarrass him when he goes head first into arguments, would explain the broken arabic words and knowledge on par with an amazon native who's never heard of islam The first quran prints/copies didnt even have diacritics as in dots or tashkeel to differentiate syllables, in fact diacritics in arabic were standarized (as well as arabic itself) for that very purpose. They're an assistant for reading moreso than big contextual changes. You cant take this angle and will now proceed to seethe or quote some schizo blog from 2003
>>221301363>>221301369Have a laugh: >>221299677
>>221301335>>221301453But they talk about it often: https://youtu.be/x8_sqtrEqqo
>>221301409There's no 3 grammary forms here. There's 1 context and they both address muhamad no matter how you pronounce it. Im even more convinced you're getting clowned by some bored egyptian or lebanese on shitcord now lol>>221301453>Non-statistical sources Oh no no no
>>221300487All three of these religions do the same thing apart from their textual core. Catholicism has the catechism, jews have the Talmud, and Muslims have the hadiths. Most people who profess these religions only read the Torah or Quran, but the never read into the actual texts their community laws are based around. Buddhism does this as well, except there's barely any baseline textual requirements, it's mostly ritualism trailing behind some hermetic system that the clergy will openly admit they think most people are too retarded to understand.
>>221297878The reason for why Israelis are not very anti-muslim is because we have a big Arab Muslim minority that usually don’t chimp out. There are multiple Muslim countries whose main population doesn’t completely hate us like Azerbaijan and Albania, with a Jewish history there not marred by oppression and ethnic cleansing unlike the Arab countries.But also it’s a bit hypocritical since Israelis fear a chimp out if we draw Muhammad or some other benign “provocation”
>>221301477>>221301567>coping intensifies Top kekBayyin enak jdid hon w mdayya3. Ma bta3ref ma3 min 3am tehke ya kalb. Ana msh native bas l3rabe msh sa3be abadan. Jiddi ken ye7ke darija metel lnative... lech hal ad mtestaghreb enno ba3ref 3rabe w ento bte7ko Franse? Msh hal ad sa3be ya hmar
>>221301870>The reason for why Israelis are not very anti-muslim is because we have a big Arab Muslim minorityYep, I know. >that usually don’t chimp outThis I don't think is entirely true. They routinely do + collaborate with other muslims to launch attacks. Just the other day israeli muslims even attacked Christians.>There are multiple Muslim countries whose main population doesn’t completely hate us like Azerbaijan and AlbaniaTrue, though I think the islamic propaganda has seeped even there. I mean, any honest person knows the hatred isn't because of the fake "genocide" nor conducting the most insanely cautious war against barbarians, but it's 1400 years old. So I've seen young azerbaijanis Scream death to Zionists (so, basically any non-suicidal Jew).
>>221291048if I visit egypt can I sexually harass some qts?
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>when you promise some double-digit IQ brown desert gooners endless sex with women so they start an entire cult in your name and do anything you tell them even if it is the most retarded shit you ever heard
>>221301932>Schizo babble of 4 different dialects straight from chatgpt to move the goalpost since he's ignorant about Arabic (especially quranic) aside from memes This is NOT how you convince people to join your crucifiction cargo cult, paco
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>>221289994That’s embarrassing. I can’t believe so many people think this is real
>>221302553So if you drown yourself you get a free pass to jannah? Why don't Muslims do this, I'm not seeing anything specify that you can't deliberately drown yourself to become a martyr.
>>221290796What's God's end game?>you will get dozens of whores and stuff and you can just keep fucking forever>but first you must be pious and complete this gauntlet I set up in the desertWhat's the point of forbidding promiscuity if that's the reward anyway
>>221302760You can't commit suicide, it has to be random. Crazy islamist suicide bombers defend suicide as "dying in battle" to circumvent the ban.
>>221302847You (or rather the LLM) literally "spoke" at least three or four different dialects there with a vaguely levantine sonance. You're not fooling anyone which is why you're having a meltdown and resorting to insults over getting grilled , better churn out those duolingo courses
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>>221302873It doesn’t have to be logically consistent in every aspect. Arab elites clearly developed it to make controlling populations easier and to expand their empire. What’s frightening is how simple Islam is. It dictates everything from what people eat to how politics should work, while encouraging unquestioning loyalty to the religion and its leaders.
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>>221302873for me the funniest prank allah pulled on humanity was>step 1: have pedophile be your last prophet >step 2: have muslims imitate his actions to form jurisprudence>step 3: do not warn pedophile not to marry a 9 year old child despite knowing the obvious result of steps 1 + 2>step 4: watch as muslim scholars defend the concept of marrying 9 year old girls until the end of times
>>221290081Dude literally this religion ruined our culture and it’s very difficult to regain our true identity back. Stop sucking their cocks
>>221303606For me, the funniest shit is when two Muslims start arguing against one another>ummmm chud she was actually 18yo okay???>shut up, kuffar, she was 9 and that was OKAY because the Prophet (Asljadiwamuhaba) said so
>>221303629Berbery ?
>>221303629What identity ? If you're talking about berbers they've been muslim for +1300 years now. Unless you yearn to being some roman dudes cocksleeve
>>221303854>Unless you yearn to being some roman dudes cocksleevewhat a projection. arabs did worse
>>221303874Berbers being relevant to human history starts with islam, everything else is comparable to sentinel islands Everything before that was doing other peoples bidding. Without islam berbers would never have something on the scale of almohads or almoravids or fatimids. >B-b-but augustine The exception that makes the ruleBerbers didnt even write anything of respectable length in their language before arabic script. Please show me a stele or full text in berber from the pre-islamic period
>>221303979>Berbers being relevant to human history starts with islamBerbers are relevant to human history?>Everything before that was doing other peoples biddingAnd everything since conversion has been doing the Arabs bidding.It's hilarious how much you lack self-awareness.
>>221304069What bidding ? Ever since kicking the ummayad they've had full autonomy on how to rule and whom to assign up until french protectorate/colonisation. The maghreb was directly tied to the middle east for 100 years tops
>>221304182>worship an Arab god>follow the rules of Arab men>replace your language for Arabic>follow Arabs in war>pay tribute to Arabs>go to Mecca to bow down to Arabs>expand Arab culture and religion for them>glorify Arab men instead of ancient Berbers>name your children after Arabs>let Turks use your country as a naval base because they have become the newest big tool of Arab religious supremacismetc.Completely cucked.
>>221304270>>worship an Arab god>>follow the rules of Arab menUniversal Godly rules>>replace your language for ArabicTheir own fault, nowhere does islam enforce this>follow Arabs in war>pay tribute to Arabs>go to Mecca to bow down to ArabsHeadcanon, muslims bow to god only and wars arent waged for "arabs">expand Arab culture and religion for them>glorify Arab men instead of ancient BerbersHeadcanon >name your children after ArabsOk ?>FlagIt makes sense. You're projecting latino mongrel complex onto others
Entire religion made by 60iq rapist pedos for 60iq rapist pedos
>>221289994Everytime I think christianity is especially retarded I am reminded that Islam exists
>>221304447How's the crime rate in brazil?
>>221304359My family is Italian, I have an Italian name that goes back to iron age Italy, I speak an evolved form of Latin, I write in an evolved form of the Latin script and I don't worship a foreign god since I'm an atheist.Check who's the mongrel here since you have been so mindbroken by the Arab conquest that you can't even imagine having a culture that wasn't violently forced upon your ancestors by foreigners.and you are brown too and I'm not
>>221289994What do the women get? No seriously?>>221290453Is this common throughout or only egypt?>>221303629Surprised that Algerians didn't pushback considering St Augustine is considered one of the greatest Catholic theologians of all time. Do Algerians acknowledge him at all?
>>221304606muslims do not acknowledge anything before the early muslim period. they call it jāhiliyya, which means ignorance. they're like medieval christians before humanism
>>221304587No one cares about your forged brown new world identity, im in my land speaking my language and following my millennia old religion while you're a cosmopolitan abomination that would be frowned upon in wherever your mongrel ancestors claim to be from while i can walk into my grandparents village and recognize pretty much everyoneIt's over for you
>>221304823Arabic is not native to africa
>>221304804How do the Moroccans make peace with the fact that some of the earliest human remains have been found there. If everything before islam is haram
>>221304823>did you know I can walk into my grandparents’ village and recognize the people living there? This is only possible in MoroccoWhy are you like that
I love seeing muslims defend islam because its so obvious they've never questioned it once
>>221304823>muh ancestors were superstitious therefore I too must bethis post provides a window into the mind of the average identitarian larper. the entire point of religion/irreligion is that it must be accepted because it's the truth, not because muh ancestors. if you were to apply this criterion to islam, which is the youngest abrahamic religion, you'd eventually run out of generations faster than most people on the planet as most of your ancestors didn't give a shit.and if you're wondering why you should care about the opinion of ignorant people whose only merit is being born before you, the answer is that it's because you just set that canon in order to brag about living in a remote rural podunk town wherein the most complex daily thought is a post like yours
>>221304823Cosmopolitan abominations like the Ottoman Empire? Ask a Turk what parts of the world are Turkish, it's no different than any other Muslim telling you that Egypt is as Muslim as Indonesia. It's hardly any less schismatic than Christianity given how the vast majority of the Muslim world reacts to Sufism.
>>221291271Trvth, If you hold a belief like “God” without any proof to back it up then you have been successfully brainwashed.
>>221304823>i can walk into my grandparents village and recognize pretty much everyoneNot hard to do when you've been fucking your cousins for 1000 years
>>221289994That would be the only reason I could convert to Muslim before I die
>>221290081Everytime someone finds fault in islam you always come up with the "not a reliable hadith" excuse. Curious.
>>221298347> blatant strawmanWow you’re so enlightened anon
>>221306185There’s a ton of proof for God. You just ignore all of it because what you consider proof is actually natural evidence, and demanding natural evidence for something supernatural is what retards (you) do.
>>221298952Yeah but barbarians wrote good poetry all over the world. It doesn’t necessarily indicate a robust flourishing or impressive high culture let alone civilization.
>>221298347wtf I love national socialism now??
>>221306521>and demanding natural evidence for something supernatural is what retards (you) doBut there is only natural evidence and nothing else.
>>221291271>>221306912>>221306185>>221304483>>221298347Jesus rose from the dead, and that's a proven historical fact.Christianity is the true and correct religion.We will continue to spread it, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.Christianity is true.God is real.Demons are real.Hell is real.Heaven is real.Jesus is Lord.https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/scholarly-writingshttps://laurazpowell.org/blog/just-the-facts-maam-the-minimal-facts-argument-for-the-resurrection-of-jesus>The best explanation for the facts agreed upon by virtually every scholar of every religious persuasion and worldview who has studied the evidence is that Jesus actually rose from the dead. If someone wants to dispute this, they must deal with the evidence, including the criteria for historical reliability, and offer some reason why this explanation falls short or provide a better explanation for the facts.https://youtube.com/watch?v=12syh8dPOtohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=JzklRPDfAj0
>>221289994>>221290007>>221290027>>221290081>>221290108>Those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this, The point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men.>As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity.>He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants.— Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa contra Gentiles I:6, 1259
>>221307300>Jesus rose from the dead, and that's a proven historical fact.it's so funny how christoids alternate between Appeal to Faith and Appeal to Science whenever it's convenient for them.he didn't, btw.
>>221307629Atheists do it too even if they're unaware that theyre making an illogical affirmative metaphysical statement.
>>221307689in english, doc?
>>221307629>he didn'tWrong, redditor. He did.
>>221305734>>221305375>>221305792>>221306248>Identityless rapebabies cope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShOXk1Qro9chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iY5b4zb_Zk
>>221290081>this or that hadith is only 65% credible o algoIslam is such a weird religion for this phenomenon alone.
>>221308085>I like it 100% halal bisdurkullah>I don't like itfalse mistranslation by a crypto jew
(houris in this house) there's some houris in this house
>>221290007>how they believe in thisIslam allows a man to have up to 4 wives Fischer's principle dictates that the gender ratio in large mammals tends to roughly 1:1, even if a large number of one gender is exterminated this balance will restore over time This means that for every one man with four wives, there are three men with zero wivesEven if only 5% of men have four wives, that means 15% of men are doomed to be maidenlessThat 15% of incels is radicalized into waging war: if they win, they kill the enemy men and take the women as warbrides or sex slaves. If they lose and die, they go to the VIP lounge of heaven and get 72 perpetual virgins.It's a perfect system: the incels either get pussy or they get pussy, the elites get nice harems and all that is needed to maintain the system is endless wars of expansion which only makes the elites even richer. Problems only arise when the kuffar get too strong and expansion becomes impossible, forcing the incels-by-design to turn their frustration inwards, against the elites. Oops...
>>221290500Yes all shall be restored. Allah will in fact give you a powerful BBC that will never tire. Just as the men of al zutt never tired inshallah.
>>221289994For me it's the Quran verse where it's said that Jesus was not crucified but "It was made to appear so" to people>They said, 'We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.' But they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but rather it was made to appear to themWhat was it then? A man in disguise? A collective hallucination? They just grabbed a random retard who looked like Jesus and no one noticed?
>>221291299COPEhttps://globalengage.org/portico/historic-level-mena-religious-conversion-implications-for-religious-freedom/
>>221291271Atheism is silly.
>>221307717Atheists big dumb like most christians
>>221308471Jesus gave them ole switcharoo for the lolz. Don't be an infidel
>>221307430I never knew aquinas was this bald>>22130777Infographic anon, please write your claims instead of reducing debates to flowcharts.Bart Ernman makes the debate bro circle pissy, but in mainstream biblical scholarship, it is noted that of the 3 Synoptic gospels, Matthew and Luke copied heavily from Mark (the earliest manuscript), and a hypothetical document called the Q source. This makes the multiple independent eye witness testimonials (from the chart) iterwoven edits of their own narratives.The deeper problem is how these narratives develop within the gospels, of anonymous and questionable authorship.Mark, the earliest, famously ends abruptly with an empty tomb (kino). But the later gospels embellish these stories, and are divergent in their theolgical implications and christology. Like who arrives at the tomb, what they see, where Jesus appears is it galilee or..? An egregious example is of Matthew writing about the tombs of the saints being opened up during ressurection. This is a massive deal, the other gospels, including John don't even mention. we know Mark was written for the jews with an aim to emphasize Jesus was fulfilling the Old Testament prophecies (Ezekiel 37) about God opening the graves of His people.
>>221305154>>221305734>>221305792>>221306248>>221305375lol you're talking to a retard who dresses in rags and sandals thinking he's some sort of evolian revolt-against-the-modern-world character. this site has some of the funniest people online
>>221308906>muslim cried to the muslim janny to get that post deletedKEK By the way, Muslim, you're trying to refute your own religion.The Qur'an affirms the divine inspiration, authority, and preservation of the Torah and the Gospel.But the Qur'an contradicts the Torah and the Gospel on major theological and historical points.Therefore, the Qur'an is false.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNAS0aaViM4https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z_eVB27PR1Ehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=yZgMUyfQSIQhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=xLE-ZWgfTcw
>>221308906https://youtube.com/watch?v=053M39xjK68
>>221308906it's called tonsure
>>221308906>Q sourceDebunked. You're parroting decades-old, obsolete talking points that never had any evidence whatsoever.
>>221308906>the later gospels embellish these storiesYou must actually be retarded.The fact that one source says more than another doesn't logically entail that the additional information is “embellished".What a mind-bogglingly stupid claim.>are divergent in their theolgical implications and christology.No, they aren't.
>>221309097>muslim cried to the muslim janny to get that post deletedNo, I misquoted it It's >>221307771 not22130777 forgot the 1>>221309097Erm, we don't believe the bible is the "injeel". Bible's New Testament is 27 books canonised under the ministry of Athanasius in his Festal Letter (367 CE) partly in response to Marcion of Sinope of the marcionist movement (2nd-3rd) who proposed an idea of a clear demarcation between yehwah and jesus. It was done so to preserve monotheism against heresies, within the confines of the nicaean creed of the trinity, which affirm to one divine will.What i believe is rather, anytime the Injeel is equated with the Bible in the Hadiths, it's merely in the scope of revelation, not a literal equivocation.>>221309195Why? For what purpose would one part with hair???
>>221309398>The fact that one source says more than another doesn't logically entail that the additional information is “embellished".What a mind-bogglingly stupid claimYou're right, but this not what they claim at all, it's not just the inclusion of additional works, it's noted that even when the miracles reduce in number it still progressively exemplifies Jesus. If you read John for example, it has the highest christology. I really don't like polemics, i shouldn't have written anything. But like if you research it, you can better argue against it.It's not that deep
>>221309463What Injeel in the Christians' possession does the Quran instruct Christians to judge the Quran by?Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”Surah 3:3-4But why do they come to you for judgment when they ˹already˺ have the Torah containing Allah’s judgment, then they turn away after all? They are not ˹true˺ believers.Surah 5:43So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious.Surah 5:47˹They are˺ the ones who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whose description they find in their Torah and the Gospel.Surah 7:157If you ˹O Prophet˺ are in doubt about ˹these stories˺ that We have revealed to you, then ask those who read the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt,Surah 10:94
>>221309671You haven't made any argument.
>>221310145Never was my purpose to make an argument against christianity. Rather to discourage infographic anon from spamming flowcharts without reading them.
>>221310212I meant that you haven't even presented an argument, just aimless vague hand-waving.>spamming flowcharts without reading them.Never happened. I've read the flowcharts, and you have zero reason to claim otherwise. Stop lying.
>>221310212Can you answer >>221310123?What "injeel" is Allah instructing Christians to confirm the Quran with?
>>221310299>you have zero reason to claim otherwise. Stop lyingZrue. I abologise for zat>>221310319>Can you answerpossibly, i thought i partially did already. Maybe some other time. It took sometime last i attempted
>>221310319I also want to say you are a very cordial person, well wishes
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