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Just scrolling about on G-maps, I'm curious as to what goes on here and why the borders look like that.
>not trying to start any wars, just genuinely curious
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because middle eastern people fuck their cousins
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>>221314815
Armenia is one of the oldest nations in the world. It all used to belong to them
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>>221314852
C'mon Finland, is that *really* such a bad thing?

>>221314861
I have been told that.
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Soviets wanted to make sure their territories were easy to control so they tended to tie them up roughly around vague ethnic lines instead of making sure they're self-sufficient on their own.
Same reason central asia has that knot in it.
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>>221314815
Soviet ethnicity surveys
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>>221314815
not really any reason. those are just the borders russia came up with after resting iran's northern provinces away from them. before that all of current armenia was majority turk&kurd and after russian conquest they were expelled and armenians from the surrounding region started pouring it making it majority armenian
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>>221314979
Seems to be the most reasonable...reason.
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>>221314815
Weren't the genociding eachother nit so long ago? I remember seeing a video of a soldier cutting the throat of an old man in the middle of a forest or park.
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>>221314994
No, the Turks are genocidal maniacs when it comes to any group touching their boarders. Any explanation that's even mildly sympathetic to the Turks almost needs to be dismissed out of hand
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>>221314815
because most Azeris live in Iran
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>>221315063
>eachother
The Azeris are the main culprit
>Ramil Sahib oghlu Safarov is an officer of the Azerbaijani Army who was convicted of the 2004 murder of Gurgen Margaryan, a lieutenant of the Armenian Army
>During a NATO-sponsored training seminar in Budapest, Safarov broke into Margaryan's dormitory room at night and axed Margaryan to death while he was asleep
>"I regret that I hadn't killed any Armenian before this. The army sent me to this training and here I learnt that two Armenians were taking the same course with us."
>After serving eight years of the life sentence, Safarov was extradited
>Although the Hungarian government stated that it had received assurances from the Azerbaijan government that the remainder of the sentence would be enforced, President Ilham Aliyev issued a pardon immediately upon Safarov's arriva
They are vile fuckers
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>>221315137
>President Ilham Aliyev issued a pardon immediately upon Safarov's arriva
Holy fucking BASED
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>>221315077
>tf
>tp
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Karabakh was 80% Armenian when the Soviets took over it along with both Armenia and Azerbaijan in 1920. They assigned it to Azerbaijan SSR but carved it out as an "autonomous" sub-province and used the conflict to play the two sides against each other to make them easier to rule over.

Anyways when the USSR collapsed the international law was that the borders should correspond to the borders of the former SSRs and the autonomous sub-SSRs didn't matter. This didn't sit right with the Armenians because Azeris are Turks and were constantly having pogroms against them so they broke away, fought an indepence war, and actually won and took control of all Karabakh and forced out the Azeri minority. They also took bordering parts of Azerbaijan proper so they could defend it better.

Then Azerbaijan got rich and it's population exploded so they went back in and took back most of it in 2020. Russia intervened and stopped them from taking the largest Armenian population centers, but then in 2022 when Russia was busy in Ukraine Azerbaijan invaded again to finish them off and drive them all out. Russia didn't do shit even though they were obligated to intervene.



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