Mesoamerica isn't too far from Brazil. Do you think people from there travelled sometimes here?
>>221336581yes, definitely
of course
>>221336581im pretty sure brazil was settled by people coming in from the kelp highway and later crossing the andes so brazilians are descendants of people who lived in mesoamerica atleast for a couple generations.i do think andeans and mesoamericans were aware of eachother at times and had people traveling between them occationally but i dont think any mesoamerican went as far as brazil in a single generation (and by brazil i mean where the people are - south brazil)
yeah retard, the fuck is this question??
>>221336581People probably didn't travel from Yucatan to the Amazon in a single trip, but trade network relays likely did happen since crops like maize and cacao spread to both continents.
>>221336581Didn't researchers find out that the Maya and Inca had maritime interactions?
>>221337374Stay in your general, jew
>>221337400Maybe I have aztecOr Maya blood
did mesoamerica had beasts of burden?
>Mayan niggas be like: "Yep, we're going to Amapá, hop in."
>>221338514They didn't.
>>221338380thats not what i said, you should consider how hard travel was before all the current infrastructure. outside of well established paths between towns travel was excruciatingly slow and required a lot of preperation the only places where people did more than a dozen km a day if they wanted was along the coas
Use cases of travelling to brazil as a mesoamerican?
>>221338646Our natives didn't wore clothes
>>221338392maybe, but unlikely
>>221338780PityI was thinking about starting a mesoamerican religious reform in Brazil
>>221336581Peru was closer and had better civilization. The amerindians in Brazil were on the east Coast farther away or scattered throughout the dense Amazon jungle. Probably hard to find them
>>221338975you have evangelicals..
>>221339026Good lord noMy plans were to use them as sacrificial victims tho
>>221336581>>221336624>>221336671>>221337400oh yeah, they just walked right through this
>>221339077yes
>>221338348no?...
>>221338392Why do you want to have Mesoamerican blood?
>>221336581>he doesn't know about the indigenous trailsDo you people really think different indio civilizations had no science of the existence of each other?
>>221338646Proto-bunda
>>221339909True, but knowing about each other and having trade routes doesn't mean people traveled that far. Ancient Rome and Han China knew about each other, and good were traded between the empires, but they were carried by various intermediaries. No Chinese went to Rome, and no Roman went to China.
>>221339879They have cool civilisations
>>221340458>No Chinese went to Rome, and no Roman went to ChinaI always thought they didBut really the distance between Brazil and mesoamerica is more like the distance between the eastern part of Rome and the western
>>221340474Yeah but the terrain between Mesoamerica and Brazil would make long journeys hard.
>>221338348You might be thinking of mayan trade with florida. Them sailing over there and potentially influencing their politics is a newish discovery
>>221337374It was overwhelmingly indirect contact, but there were some times and places where it seems to have happened, especially between the Ecuadorian coast and Central/Mesoamerica. For instance:- clothing styleshttps://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/latin-american-antiquity/article/abs/ancient-cultural-contacts-between-ecuador-west-mexico-and-the-american-southwest-clothing-similarities/D157DFB886A5805867ABDD1638D1BB14- ceramic styleshttps://www.academia.edu/79246890/Evaluating_Pre_Columbian_Contact_between_Ecuador_and_Costa_Rica_A_Ceramic_Approach_Masucci_and_Hoopes_2022_- metallurgical traditionshttps://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-history-of-the-pacific-ocean/mesoamericansouth-american-precolumbian-pacific-contacts-evidence-objects-and-traditions-1500-bce1532-ce/3B5844BFC38294E6FAF6D5AD0439775F
>>221340695Regarding metallurgical traditions, for example the appearance in Mexico of money (axe-monies) in the style developed by coastal Ecuadorian cultureshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe-monieshttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352409X23001517
>>221336581I'm not sure. Mesoamericans must have had more direct contact/exploration with nearer areas (ie. Caribbean, Florida), but I doubt they would have traveled that far inland in South America, especially modern day Brazil.
>>221340695However, the diffusion of many other things seems to have been far more indirect, such as the spread of crops across vast regions in very ancient times, or in more recent though still ancient times, elements like:- the so called jaguar cult: but this one might have developed independently in the Olmec world and was not a proto-Chavin introduction as some researchers think- the step fret (which used to be called pata pata here): definitely originated in South America in ancient times and gradually diffused across the New World, especially northward- or the Southern Cross (chacana): same as abov
>>221341025For example this broken gourd vessel from Caral bears:- the oldest known depiction of the feline god that holds staffs (for the Incas: Vicacocha), making it the earliest known depiction of a New World deity as well- the earliest known version of the step fret, which gradually became popular across the Americashttps://thetinkuy.wordpress.com/figure-15-the-twisted-gourd-among-the-nuu-dzaui/https://thetinkuy.wordpress.com/2020/05/22/twisted-gourd-xicalcoliuhqui-the-symbolic-language-of-the-pre-columbian-rainmakers-a-cosmovision-of-divine-rule-of-a-triadic-universe-2/
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>>221340695makes sensei mean ecuador was probably settled by people coming down along the coastline from mexico 20k years ago but from there to brazil its 3000km though impassable jungle and mountains or 10000km along the coastline much of which isnt very hospitable (line near the southern pole)
