German car industry is dying, and i think that's beautiful.Overpriced shit, no more reliability.
>>221351277My main gripe with German auto is the overcomplicated bullshit they doBasically impossible to work on your own car
>>221351277Don't worryBrown people will keep them in business.Turks and balkaners especially
>>221351326What auto do you like instead?
>>221351401His broke down chevy
>>221351401Ford, Toyota >>221351559Classic Chevy is good
>>221351326this is a got take that will offend everyone who reads it: german automotive engineering is decades ahead. this also means that they have been well ahead of the curve in terms of enshittification
>>221351728*hot take
>>221351277I think people over exaggerate the reliability issues due to unreasonable expectations. Basically anything happens under 100k kms people freak out much more than they would at other companies. Place I work at atm has been leasing Audi A6s for two decades now and people who have been driving them since forever say the build quality might be as good as it once was but still much better than the average and people are more likely to forgive these things for other brands.
>>221352146to be fair, their mechanics do tend to be more complicated. but also to be fair, you can't really make a car of that premiumness without more mechanical complexity. old lexuses, for example, aren't much better or cheaper to maintain
>>221352241>but also to be fair, you can't really make a car of that premiumness without more mechanical complexityYeah I feel like this is a very underdiscussed aspect especially that this applies to almost everything universally. Low floor trams are also pain the ass and more complicated for example than old ones but you could apply this to even like smartphones or an expensive shower
>>221352497the greatest hits of cars for the people, so to say, were always just the simplest, most-barebones cars you could get. fiat 500, the mini, toyota corolla... the list goes on and on. they humbly, very much did their jobs at the expense of everything else. in a way it's hilarious to see npcs simping for a given brand or country of generic soulless crossover mobility appliance thingy these days, when they're also likely from a generation that knows absolutely nothing about cars or driving to begin with
>>221351277I really don't understand what niggas mean when they say a car brand is "unreliable". It feels like it's just thrown around as a buzzword, to pretend like you know anything about cars and have a valid reason to hate a brand
>>221354434Planned obsolescence and enshittification are a thing in the automotive industry. Toyotas outlast pretty much everything else.
>>221351277German cars are good but overrated
>>221351277>no more reliabilityNever was the case>t once owned mercedes w210 2001
>>221351277i mean yeah they are dying because in yurop why buy a krautmobile when you can get a chinese car for half the price and with more features and NO SUBSCRIPTION
>>221354434German cars are engineered to get the most power out of small displacement engines and they sacrifice reliability to do that. Audi uses an extra valve per cylinder, they're often turbocharged, ungodly amount of sensors, etc. all this extra shit turns what should normally be a 2 hour job into a 6 hour job because you're spending 90% of the time moving all the other shit out of the way to get to what you're trying to fix. So when my Camry has a faulty sensor at 40k miles it's not that big of a deal but when it's an Audi it's a $2500 repair
>>221354572they're people's cars with circa 2012 android tablets in them and there's nothing wrong with liking them for that. however, time will tell how reliable they are
>>221351728The quality of plastic and rubber on my BMW is absolute shit.Have a 20+ year old Mazda, the plastic isn't brittle and breaking, the rubber gaskets aren't falling apart - unlike on the 6 year-old BMW.
>>221354968I have a 20-year-old lexus, its engine cover fasteners are long gone, as well as the rubbery plastic trim on its door window lists which makes it look ghetto frankly. A/C is leaking. these days toyota and mazda are quite married
>>221354968>>221355131keep in mind, it was built in one of the special japanese craftsmanship production lines that were folded a thousand times
>>221351277What brand will arabs and other browns hop on to then??
>>221355228well there's the dodge tranellenger and the xie xie chinese takeaway
>>221351277the german car industry is deliberately being killed by the european union.its not "dying", retard, its being murdered
>>221351326That's what all cars will be in the future. Get ready.
>>221358127Yes. Get a bicycle. Cars are a scam.
>>221354532They are great and underrated at this point
>>221354572Chinese cars aren't cheaperThey're more expensive even for the same qualityYes everyone will laugh at you if you don't drive a Porsche Cayenne
>>221354434German cars lose half the value the moment they’re out of the dealership. Germoids are fucking retarded when it comes to car nationalism. I see so many expensive audis and mercedes parked in absolute shitholes, and no, it ain’t the zainichi turks o algo. Buy a Toyota and you won’t need to invest a penny into it for a decade.
>>221354434Your race makes a lot of shit on the cars out of shitty plastic that breaks no matter what after a few years. Then you ha e to remove the entire engine to put some minor plastic part in and it costs you $10,000 in labor to replace a $5 part. Your cars have a horrible reputation for being drivable for 5 years maximum. The Japs have the opposite reputation.
>>221352241Replacing the starter in a VW Touareg requires removing the engine. Is it normal?
If cars lose half the value the moment they're out of the dealership, why don't people just request a test drive and then claim their 50% discount when they drive it back to the store?
>>221351326My shitty honda civic from 1995 can only be jacked up by the pinchwelds, believe me japs know a thing or two about that shit as well. My entire underside is made out of plastic
>>221359559you have autism
>>221351326german engineering
>>221362225This is their revenge on the world for losing WW2
>>221351277EVs fix this btw. Electric drivetrains are reliable by nature.
