Plato said women should marry “from 16 to 20 years of age,” while men should marry “from 30 to 35.”Is this culturally acceptable in your country today?
>Let's take verbatim the advice of a Greek aristocrat who lived 2,400 years ago
>>221364754No but I wish it was
>>221364877What's stopping you from doing it?
>>221364754>16 to 20That's old for ancient Greece.
>>221364754What does the hag image have to do with this?
>>221364754Under certain conditions, yes.However, it should be noted that traditions, sexuality, ethical norms, and life expectancy were different in Ancient Greece.And the answer depends not so much on the feasibility of marriage, but on the longevity and harmony of the relationship. It's not a one-way street.
>>221364830this but unironically
>>221366052based
>>221365229That was the age range women hit their period. It was 17 on average until 19th century or do
>>221364754>16 to 20Halve it and wer'e talking
>>221366161damn this flag never missesgo off, king
>>221364754Old fag cope
>>221366248Male age appears to have no effect. The slight increase is because 30 year old fathers tend to have children with older women than 18 year old fathers
>>221366286You read the graph wrong.
>>221366394No, I am telling you the confounding variable, why correlation doesn’t always mean causation.
>>221364754>Is this culturally acceptable in your country today?existing isnt 'culturally acceptable'. fuck em.
>>221366286>The slight increase is because 30 year old fathers tend to have children with older women than 18 year old fathersOlder mothers contribute far fewer mutations than (even young) fathers
>>221366472like anything in life, the story is more complicated. first, the biggest age related issue in childbirth isn't usually 'number of mutations' but whether a child can actually survive and come to term as a healthy baby. this is often determined more by the age of the mother. interestingly, this can be ameliorated significantly by using a surrogate mother (younger woman receives donated embryo).it is true that many mutations that cause things like autism (and other genetic diseases) can be caused by paternal mutations related to age of the father. that said, when you look at the chart you can still see there is a wide range, some fathers at age 40 will present a fertilized egg with the same amount of paternal derived mutations as from a 20 year old man, and vice versa. in other words its not some perfect rule that if you have a kid at 20 your kid wont have autism or some shit. this also isn't to mention that, the mutations, themselves, matter more. you can have 100 mutations that are less effective than 1 or 2 that mutations which are in critical areas, or really affect, e.g.; a protein and have significant effect. this itself is a game of luck.also, not every man or woman has the option to have a child at 20. some people have different life schedules and want kids at an older age. there are different ways to handle and deal with the challenges of having children at an older age, and more and more options are being developed. for example, IVF screening itself (though not always an option, but just an example) drastically alters the situation, as the increased chance of an embryo with an inherited disease is partially offset by simply having multiple embryos to choose from.the most important thing in the end, as in many cases, is intentionality. having a child at any stage of life is going to produce unique challenges. the wise thing to do is understand and prepare for them accordingly, to give your child the greatest chance at a happy life.
>>221366664>A lot of words to basically say 'yeah but it’s not that bad.'The paternal mutation clock is real. You can weigh the trade-offs without pretending the slope on the graph isn’t there
>>221364830He's not wrong
>>221366741i hope whatever trauma you have going on resolves in the future
My mom was 20 when I was born and my dad was 40. How retarded should I be?
>>221364754>Plato said women should marry “from 16 to 20 years of age,” while men should marry “from 30 to 35.”wasn't he a pederast? how old should the teenage boy-wife be, according to a guy from 2000 years ago?
>>221366248So, what she's saying is, 18 years old shoud be parents?
>>221366938>wasn't he a pederast?No he wasn'tA large part of the plot of the Symposium is a boy trying to seduce him only for him to show zero interest
>>221367026apparently he never married either. Why then, should I care about his opinions on marriage? It's like listening to priests on the matters of abortion
