If id chosen to learn german or latin or even chinese instead of this piece of shit i'd be fluent by now but this piece of dogshit is so fucking imbecilic it'll take me a year to read real sentences at this rate
>>221425330Just learn high-frequency Kangxi radicals instead of being a retard.
>>221425359this doesnt help the radicals are completely random and even for the same characters so not even kanji alone you have multiple readings so you need to learn every word in isolation
>>221425330Aren't choinese characters objectively inferior to latin alphabet? Surely even azns must realize this
>>221425656no, chinese is very simplei dont know chinese but its probably superior to spelling diarrhea of english
>>221425699>spelling diarrheatf, tp
>>221425861what are you tf tping me for dipshit? spellekkkaaaiiiaa diaaarheeOaea would be better for you? polish ortography is consistent
>>221425885>polish ortography is consistentYeah, consistently diarrhea
>>221425957if consistently had the same root word in finnish it'd have 15 characters
>>221425330>If I studied Chinese I wouldn't have to study Chinese characters
>>221426512hanzi isn't even 1/10 as retarded as japanese writing system
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>>221425330git gud, brainlet
>>221429068i willveeeeeeeery slowly
>>221425330they told me the characters were the difficult part, and I thought the characters are easy so I can do this, but they lied to me. The difficult part is how similar every word sounds to each other
>>221430248i actually do really well with inflections
>>221430248Bitching about kanji truly is beginner shit. The fact that the entire advanced register of the language is made up out of words that each have a dozen or more homophones is indeed the real challenge.
>>221430248that's literally why kanji existsmeme language
>>221432845Having such a ludicrous amount of homophones makes you wonder how they even speak to each other if they need to use 1k+ characters with multiple meanings in different contexts just to represent a word. If you stripped away the writing system Japanese is about as complex as Indonesian, doesn't seem like the writing system and spoken language overlap completely.
>>221433709>they need to use 1k+ characters with multiple meanings in different contexts just to represent a word"we must keep all these chinese words and spell them exactly as they're written in chinese even though we hate them and they've all become homophones in our language"what is wrong with japanese people
>>221426773Wew
>>221433709their words are super short, so they usually say a lot of them. meaning is obvious with context. many times they say two words with the same meaning as one word so you don't get confused
>>221432845>>221433459oh shit, I just reread OP's thread and I misunderstood. I thought he was learning chinese, I was talking about chinese, not japanese
I apologize on behalf of my low moral countryman how lacks 大和魂 to appreciate the beauty of kanji characters
>>221433819>The tōyō kanji list, which was created as a step towards the abolition of kanji, had undergone frequent criticism by scholars. In 1958, Tsuneari Fukuda wrote an article in the magazine Koe pointing out that it was impossible to restrict kanji use, and in 1961, several prominent anti-reformists walked out of the Japanese Language Council general meeting in protest of the dominance of the phoneticists, who were always re-elected to their positions on the council.>The following year, Japanese Language Council member Tomizō Yoshida argued that the council should base their reforms on standardising the current writing system using a mixture of kanji and kana, and in 1965, Morito Tatsuo, the then chairman of the council, announced that the complete abolition of kanji was now inconceivable and that Yoshida's suggestion would become official policy.This is where everything went wrong
I just stopped trying to learn to read, I'm never going to read Japanese literature or whatever. I only really care about understanding what they say and maybe being able to say some bullshit to someone if there ever happened to be a reason
>>221433709Well there is a moderate divide between written and spoken Japanese. For example it's possible to write in a very information dense style, often seen in for example news paper headlines which would be difficult to understand if read out loud without proper context. There are also a ton of words which basically only exist in a literary context, though that is true for many languages. Then there is the whole kanji substitution thing which obviously doesn't work in spoken language.>>221434570The funny thing is that everything you wrote applies anyway thanks to Japanese borrowing all of those things you mentioned about Chinese.
>>221435418What IS the greatest work of japanese literature anyways... Like german is another one country language but at least if you learn it you can read hegel and so on, weebs literally do it for porn doodles
>>221436072I know two weebs that make their life revolve around learning Japanese and are really good at reading. Both of them say Re:Zero is the best piece of writing out of Japan, I don't even think reading LNs or VNs gives you the ability to read the older stuff competently they both say once you get to the 1950s and below the language starts to seem extremely archaic. Not sure if they can even read it.
>>221425885>>221425985t. zcsyscyzzkzsy
>>221436546our version of latin is older than discovery of americas
>>221425330I can kinda see the outline of the bridgeThe rest is pure madness, idk how yellows can look at that shit and figure it out
>>221436072>>221436473There's plenty of good literature but LNs is not where you're going to find it. For me the goal is reading classical works like heike monogatari, though I'm currently at the level where contemporary novels are a comfortable read. Anything written before WW2 quickly becomes difficult since there was a large writing reform following the war. I've read some WW2 news articles and it's pretty hit and miss as they can be written with a lot of kanji that aren't in use today, or write words with different character than in contemporary Japanese.
>>221425330If you scratched the word "Kanji" from the picture, you could well say you are learning Chinese.
