The most misunderstood man in the world is a German and its not the one you think of first.
>>221449486Why do Nordics still worship him if you guys aren't even Christian anymore?
Protestant fantasy: >AKSHULY MARTIN LUTHER WAS LE BASED ANTISEMITEReality:>Oy vey those papist scoundrels are being too mean to the heckin Jews
>>221449528You mean the countries that have literal crosses as their flags?
>>221449486>>221449541Two idiots really.>wait, people live many years AND CAN CHANGE their opinions? Wow, as a retarded sheepskin with no real opinions I didn't knew you can do that.
>>221449541>>221449565Luther was sympathetic to Jews because he thought that treating them well will result them to seeking Christ but since that didnt happen he wanted to basically force them or for them to gtfo
>>221449654I know, im sorry if I was rude
>>221449486protestants are the biggest jew bootlickers in the world
>>221449528>>221449548the share of young people going to reformation in Finland is like 3/4, in Norway its something like half or more and in Sweden its like thirdreformation in Finnish is literally translated as "purification of the faith". It has very big cultural significance
>>221449665that statement is semi-retarded since you can also say that with christians in generalprotestantism is a big group. Lutheranism is very close to reformed catholicism and something like baptists or pentecostals have nothing in common with lutheranism
>>221449541>>221449486>>221449565>>221449654luther wrote "on the jews and their lies" 20 years after the reformation. at the beginning of the schism he was actually very conciliatory and believed the jews refused to convert to christianity due to being treated harshly.>In his 1523 essay That Jesus Christ Was Born a Jew, Luther condemned the inhuman treatment of the Jews and urged Christians to treat them kindly. Luther's fervent desire was that Jews would hear the Gospel proclaimed clearly and be moved to convert to Christianity. Thus he argued:>«If I had been a Jew and had seen such dolts and blockheads govern and teach the Christian faith, I would sooner have become a hog than a Christian. They have dealt with the Jews as if they were dogs rather than human beings»so, what happened inbetween? well, first, in the following two decades he noticed that the jews just didn't wish to convert and told him to fuck off>Some time prior to 1536, Luther had met with three rabbis and presented his Christological interpretation of the Old Testament; the rabbis in turn presented their Talmudic interpretation, which did not mention Christ. In the years following his failure to convince the rabbis, Luther became increasingly anti-Jewish.[4] second, he witnessed protestant movements reintroducing old testament jewish practices such as circumcision due to a combination of sola scriptura, plus a general ignorance of the meaning of the bible. very similar to what americans do today when they praise the state of israel >Erasmus had characterized the (Anabaptist) Sabbatarian movements in Bohemia and Moravia as re-judaizing, by analogy; Luther believed further that these movements had re-introduced circumcision (i.e. works of law against faith and grace) and were the result of active Jewish proselytizing.[4]his life was a series of choices followed by reactionary intolerance to the consequences and results of his own ideas. see the german peasants war for another example
>>221449749>baptists or pentecostals have nothing in common with lutheranismyeah except for the fact they wouldn't exist without luther
>>221449528Nordics are protestant
>>221449486Hitler wasn't German.
>>221449791they wouldnt exist if the catholic church hadnt forced Lutherans to split
>>221449836o algo
>>221449836yeah it's catholics fault that all protestants are insane maniacs
>>221449781it was the catholic church that caused theseLuther was never the cause for these
>>221449791Then Orthodox, Coptic, Catholics and Protestants are the same, because none of them would exist without Christ?
>>221449859Church needed a good shake up if you read about it
>>221449853>>221449859the split was caused by the catholic churchluther never wanted to splitthe catholic church ex-communicated him because he called out corruption and child fucking (literally read his texts, he says it out clearly)
>>221449541>think jews are persecuted victims who should be helped>actually meet jews and learn how they work>think jews are subhumans who should be genocided as fast as possibleMany such cases.
>>221449892the only thing you've said that I agree with is that pentecostalism, like every american schizo sect, may be more of an indirect result of calvinism than lutheranism. John Calvin was way worse since his insane followers couldn't be pacified with cuius regio, eius religio
>If I had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the bridge of the Elbe, hang a stone around his neck and push him over with the words 'I baptize thee in the name of Abraham'
>>221450050if you agree with me pentecostals then you also agree that pretty much most of American christianity which caused all of this is the fault of Calvin, not Luthercant blame Luther that he was kicked out of the church for saying things that catholic church would agree today if it werent for the fact that they would need to also admit that popes can do a lot of things wrong
>>221450009>please convert to my own brand of religion, it’s great and all, we go to paradise together>nah we’re fine lol>okay, kill all these motherfuckersNice mafia-style "religion" you got there
>>221450217enough about judaism
>>221450159I do believe people tend to forget swiss reformers, which is weird given the importance of calvinists, huguenots, puritans, or whatever people called them depending on where they lived
>>221450260This was not about Judaism and Christianity
>>221450293one also forgets that the protestant work ethic meme is reformed thing and not lutheran
>>221450376It's genetic, just like everything else. Genetically different people from different parts of the world make their religion look like themselves, not the other way around.
>>221450510>Lebanese Christians vs. Lebanese Muslims>Indian Panjabis (Hindu) vs. Pakistani Panjabis (Muslim)>your white neighbor vs. your white neighbor converted to IslamEtc.
>>221450748>>Lebanese Christians vs. Lebanese MuslimsAll subhumans.>>Indian Panjabis (Hindu) vs. Pakistani Panjabis (Muslim)All subhumans.>>your white neighbor converted to IslamGullible retards but still different in every way from actual "rape kids, stone women, bomb everything, death to west" subhuman shithole muslims.
honestly we should just kill everyone who's not catholicmaybe the oriental churches get a pass but only them
>>221451205t. Pole who always disagrees with popes other than the one Polish pope
>>221451314Ratzinger was cool
>>221450316Mr Bean?
>>221449700this, it is a rite of passage
>>221449541proddies and their twisted deranged view on christianity are a blightamercians are extremely up there but they have the excuse of being founded by nutters. something someting die for irael and amputate part of your pp. how' the american-israel war in in iran going? when will they realise the orange man is unhinged, reeks of a russian agent, market manipulation, tries to fuck over the EU "they lost more than we did". ICE should deplort him back to germany and face a fair trial
>>221449700confirmation *
>>221451314I don't agree with JP2 either, ecumen*sm was a horrible idea
>>221449541he thought he could convert jews by being nice to themwhen he realized they refuse to convert he wrote the manifesto in the OP
>>221450260judaism does not believe in converting others afaik but i could be wrongjudaism is a very exclusive religion and entrance is gatekept
honestly come to think of it a lot of problems could've been avoided if someone told the romans to not touch jerusalem at all and just left it as a free state on its own or somethingthere'd be no jews in europe and they'd all be contained thereno christianity no islam nothing just them chilling there with a wall built around them (by them not by the romans)
>>221452832judaism is basically the point 3
>>221452946?
>>221452966https://youtu.be/M60FUPVtq9k?t=884
>>221452986oh yeah but i was talking about forcibly converting othersjudaism doesn't believe in conversions if you are born a goy you are always a goy
