Sure it bankrupted the economy and ruined the country, but at least Pharoah Sissy made actual fucking sexy architecture that reflected the country instead of the garbage that other states make with their property bubbles. This is pure art.Gonna look like shit in a few years though.
Cant wait for ISIS to blow it up and make a headquarter there in 15 years
>>221473435>blow up islamic architecture, including a mosqueYeah that makes sense for an Israeli proxy.But why can't Saudi do this shit? Their shit is modernist garbage.And most dictators makes cities that look like shit too, what's different here? Does sisi realise the situation and just went "fuck it, I'm making a monument to egypt because it's fucked anyway"?It's like I'm looking at ancient Egypt if it was transported to now. It's crazy quality.
>>221473421I deeply wish to strangle you anon. This nigger tripled state debt in a decade, took out dozens of billions in loans from the IMF and Gulf, improved the lives of no one (0) and actually raped our economy and put millions into poverty, and all of it was for useless vanity projects to make himself look good to drooling retards like you.
>>221473516>I deeply wish to strangle you anon.You guys are so fucked, my Egypt bro. But hey, you have a sexy looking capital now at least.We just have debt with nothing to show for it and no interesting architecture.If you're gonna burn the ship, at least pack fireworks. Can't in Aus, they're illegal (ships and fireworks nowadays).
>>2214735161000 years from now none of that will matter. Thank God Egypt is run by men of destiny rather than in-the-moment molerats like you.
>>221473481People who don't like modernism are living in the past and will be left behind.
>>221473625Those buildings are rock solid ay. Like wtf.I've never seen ANYTHING built to that standard in any country in modernity. It might be the only shit from this era that still stands in 1000 years ay.>>221473626Modernism made covid and AI slop and billions of niggers, it can fuck off.
>>221473516its a multi-millennia old tradition anon
>>221473662kekBut I was thinking that right?>Pharoahs literally did this exact thing for millennia with the economy and monumentsAt least they didn't spend it on making more bioweapons like China, Israel or the US would.
>>221473435ISIS has already been raped to death in sinaiwho is actually going to blow it up are the eventual debt collectors
>>221473711so you've accepted jewish slavery, both ironic and fitting
>>221473711Nigger, nobody is gonna be alive when shtf.Only aliens will see it.
>>221473516Has the situation really worsened that much?
>>221473421there is over a 100m egyptians and most live in absolute shitwhy are they okay with this??
>>221473711The saudis and emirates are going to end up poorer than the egyptians within a few more months. Nothing can stop those jewish shitholes from collapsing without their oil and tourism
>>221473803two more weeks
>>221473602That stupid fucking nigger estimated it'd take 7-9 years to finish when he started in 2015 and that it'd cost just $50 billion. It's been 11 years and now we're in 2026 and he hasn't even finished the first stage and literally no one lives there because millionaires just buy property for future speculation and fuck off back to their villas in actually livable cities other than a pointless concrete jungle in the fucking desert. The project had already blown past $20 billion in 2022 BTW and he hasn't released cost figures since then, probably because he knows we won't finish it before the IMF comes knocking for their loans.I hope the Gulf would spend some of their money on sponsoring a coup against that monkey instead of continuing this farce. He has to go eventually why not do it now instead of waiting for things to get even worse for an even bigger collapse>>221473711Half your cunt are already rearing to get the beheading knife out nigga. Leave your gated compound for once and go see how your average Egyptian thinks. Sissy annihilated every secular political alternative and now only the islamists are left and the common folks LOVE them
>>221473481All architecture is “bidah” and “shirk” to wahhabi niggers. They want to unironically go back to living in tents and drinking camel piss
>>221473777it has always been like thispicrel is an average egyptian city during the height of the new kingdom
>>221473816Yes literally 2 more weeks dumbass. After hajj you won’t have any more income at all. No oil, no tourism, no nothing
>>221473833Hajj alone brings in 15 billion.
>>221473833Your government would rather engage in the worst cases of sunken costs known to mankind with Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Israel than ever letting a collapse happen.
>>221473776Yes. 40% of our economy is already owned by the state/army and they're never (willingly) going to let go of the massive stake they've carved out. Rivers of blood will have to be shed to get their claws out and it's going to happen sooner or later no matter how many IMF bailouts Sissy gets because he always wastes the money on more vanity projects and he can't change course or his military buddies will depose him like what Mubarak got.>>221473777Egyptsissies can't do shit against the military on their own. The only people with enough force to seriously fight the army are the jihadis and they're not nice or chill at all
>>221473823>He has to go eventuallyThey said that about Gaddafi for like 30 years mate. But frankly, ALL states are doing this shit nowadays it's not just Egypt.And our economy isn't mutually exclusive, when Egypt crashes, we crash too. So does Israel and the US.So does China.Everyone crashes. It's just poor global economics created by terrible grand strategy. This is why they push for their reset. They planted a bomb and now want to blow it up to secure global control and power.
>>221473833I heard Canada and NZ are already spiraling. Our bubble is bursting now too.Egypt will implode hard too.China will be the worst off because they've been doing it much much worse than any other economy.
>>221473823>I hope the Gulf would spend some of their money on sponsoring a coup against that monkey instead of continuing this farce.They are trying to do a genocide to get some resources in Sudan currently, with the chain of wars probably extending out west as the need to dance with gold jewellery increases in the Gulf and proving every negative stereotype of Middle Easterners across all faiths being whores for money and tacky watches in the meanwhile.
>>221473832I doubt it looked that good with fancy walls. Most medieval places globally looked like complete shit.
>>221473873Nope none of these are even closely equivalent nigga. We've been in an economic death spiral for a decade now and the IMF, Goldman Sachs, US, Europe, Gulf, etc all know we'll collapse eventually and are pouring billions into our shithole to prevent it from imploding but they're only slowing things down because it HAS to implode within a few years
>>221473823>Leave your gated compound for once and go see how your average Egyptian thinks. i dont live in a gated compound and where i work and interact with even the poorest egyptians everyday>Sissy annihilated every secular political alternative as if he didnt annihalte the islamists also?>Half your cunt are already rearing to get the beheading knife out niggaegypt is majority sufi ashari, not salafi. leave cairo/alexandria for once and see how average saidi or fellah thinksthe will be no revolution without some form of leadership/organization and sisi is very careful in never allowing something like this to form.
Sorry Arabbros, but your only options are corrupt monarchs, corrupt military dictators, or violent goatfucking retards you'll wish were either of the other two. This is all you can ever expect out of life.
It's like a giant Taj Mahal, not built to perform, but merely to look grand and leave people in awe. It's kinda minimal and neato in the right ways. It is pure AESTHETIC.
>>221473776Oh boy you have no idea kek.They're doing this on purpose in EVERY state to initiate a new global order. It's intentionally bad finance wise. Fucking glowniggers, man.
>>221473896>it HAS to implode within a few yearsI live in a country with almost a two decade long housing bubble that will probably never burst. Mainly because the sheer collapse would probably be what happened to Japan but like 2-5x because we decided being a more optimized Angola was a good idea.
>>221473920Well you put him there like all dictators.>I destroyed my own economy on purpose too!Truly satanic.
>>221473924It's pure garbage. an amalgamation of random ideas with no substance.
>>221473942>I live in a country with almost a two decade long housing bubble that will probably never burst.Nobody tell him.>it just did, anonIt literally triggered ours too.
>>221473954Nah it's minimal genius. The guy has actual taste unlike most retards in power.It's not a wise investment, yes, but it is art.
I don't know what in particular they're doing with the architecture, but it gets stunning light and has this stone texture look that you just don't get nowadays somehow. The angles are just that perfect I guess and the materials top notch.Normally shit looks like a bad CGI in most places with neo-classical styles.
>>221473954Islamo-Kemetism
>>221473833you guys cant even secure the petrodollar against iran accepting payments in yuanamerica is pretty fucked too
>>221473516not my problem
>>221473980Well, to each his own. All I know is that we own Egypt now thanks to this project.
>>221473516Egypt is so fucked, if you put me in charge tomorrow I wouldn’t know where to even begin with fixing it.One the climate really gets fucked I think we’d see a refugee crisis that puts Syria to shame.
>>221474018This looks like sub-saharan garbage in comparison 2bh (ok the minaret watchtower is neato).The admin area looks like how these mosques should really look instead of being caked in that plaster that looks like timbuktu mud. Or like Brazillian government projects. Sorta cheap and bland and not working well with the light of the sun like ancient egyptian buildings do (which is what I suspect is key to the new admin's "look" because it definitely resembles that far more than most shit in other countries).That said, there are really cool old cairo mosques, I just dislike this one.I like their huge forums. The open, minimal liminal space patterned with mathematically precise patterns triggers something in me. I really like the ones in afghanistan especially with the blue stone tiles.But I also love raw stone carved into older classical, pre-islam, styles.
>>221474033Literally nobody will remember or care to remember Arabia 200 years from now. Egypt will continue to capture the world's imagination.
>>221474087We replaced the jeet workers in our country with Egyptians. Our streets are cleaner and the country feels more "arab". Overall, it's been a great improvement.I just wish they didn't talk so much. All the do is talk.
>>221474087>if you put me in charge tomorrow I wouldn’t know where to even begin with fixing it.Which is exactly how Sisi saw things clearly. kekWhen you have that much external debt, it becomes near impossible to fix unless you have your country's monetary situation properly sorted in a way no country currently does. There are solutions when ignoring foreign subversion, but grand strategy and subversion always fucks it up.
>>221474136See, that's thing. You are so focused on your heritage and whether someone will remember you when you are long dead. Who the fuck cares?
>>221473907>as if he didnt annihalte the islamists also?You won't get it if you're not Muslim but islamist movements don't survive through political leaders or organizations or any of that shit. Islamism lives in the hearts and minds (pun intended) of millions of angry muzzies inspired by dozens of verses about the virtue of Jihad in Allah's righteous cause and the rewards of the martyrs among the mujahideen. You could blow up every mosque and kill every MB member and it'll still live on. You can't quash islamism like a political party because it's the heart and soul of Islam at its most fundamental essence and is what we default to when things get hard.>see how average saidi or fellah thinksI visit relatives in the Asyut-Sohag-Qena tristate area and the cities and towns are all packed with niqabis and fully bearded jihadis. The South has been fully infiltrated by the islamists. And besides random fellahin in Luxor won't change anything since all the real political change happens in Cairo like how it's always been.>>221473942>Rich firstie comparing his near-US AAA credit economy to egypsiestan's B- (the Congo is B btw) doomed death spiraling shitholeNgmi
>>221474137Ah... speaking of trash.Cairo should really fix their sanitation issues more than building this shit.>even my own country is neglecting sanitation and health for ego projects nowadaysIt's not good. It's fucking everywhere now.
>>221474159Because you're gonna die anyway?Death is absolute.God's shittest game mechanic. (I guess he liked Outer Wilds)
>>221473421Very cool architecture and buildings they're putting there. Too bad they're all in a hideous sprawled car centric shithole
>>221474192>*unleashes a pack of BBCs to rape your bussy bloody*Lol nooo why are you upset that your asshole is torn apart nooooo you'll like die anyways in like 50 years like who cares if you'll never shit normally ever again loooooooooool it's like so pointless hahaI will rape you anon
>>221474192Saudis are nihilists at their core. I unironically think Islam sentiment is wayy stronger out side of saudi. Especially in Egypt. It's ridiculous how Islamic the country is.
>>221473863Ok, is there anyone that can be an actual decent leader in the country right now? When was the last time that Egypt had a capable and competent ruler?
do egyptians still bathe in potholes
>>221473881I think the big problem of the 21 century for many states is that these days the capacity for self distraction via bad policies is orders of magnitude larger than it used to be, the state is much more powerful, the economy much more complex and population much larger. Everyone is one retarded PM away from infinite migration or a debt spiral or some other stupid doomsday.It’s much worse for thirdies of course, they had the misfortune of doing 10x on the population while having non existent institutions to structure the state right and now it’s gotten out of hand and is much harder to fix. Iran also got fucked like that which is why they will literally run out of water in the next few decades.>>221474137kek when I read stuff gulf niggas post here I get why the average arab hates on you so much. I don’t really care obviously, but I get them.
>>221474251>is there anyoneNope. Everyone who wasn't an incompetent retard/spineless coward or an islamist has either been killed, tortured and exiled, or is rotting in a secret desert prison and will never see the light of day.>When was the last time that Egypt had a capable and competent ruler?Anwar Sadat but he blundered and let the islamists grow out of control and they ended up killing him. Rest in piss, shouldn't have played with fire.
>>221474273They can hate all they want. We gave them everything. The language, the culture, the religion, their customs. They would be nothing without us. We own them.
>>221474221Actually, everyone is getting raped by god. He made this shit in the first place.
>>221474242Egyptians are normally crazy spiritual, to the point where the Greeks exploited that aspect of their country.
>>221473516Yeah, but aura though.
>>221474295So it's over? There's no hope for the country at all? Nothing can realistically fix it or at least improve it somewhat in the short to medium term?
>>221474273I think we underestimated how much machine innovation, quickened communication and blind cult-esque obedience to money, in combination with blackmail operations from a certain unspecified country, would accelerate our problems huh. Almost like acceleration is a stupid idea, ironically lacking in proper dynamic reflexes to make itself work with itself. Instead of a machine just going faster, we made an economic cyclone that is explosively intensifying. People, in delusion or with their hands tied, forced the economy to reach a threshold where it simply turned into a mere storm useless to all people.
>>221474419what is this schizo babble?
Also, Israel, don't underestimate Saudis, they have fucked all of our countries up and used you as a proxy without you realising it. I think knowingly too.They might be rough at times, but they are also pretty shifty and clever with tactics at times. It's like the Mongols, people underestimated them and they took advantage when they were offended and mistreated.
>>221474306>We gave them everything. The language, the culture, the religion, their customs. They would be nothing without us.Yeah, because they didn't have anything like that of their own and were primitive savages before you invaded them.
>>221474457It's called figurative language. I guess Islamic people wouldn't understand symbolism, they did make it illegal by Islamic Law. There's a reason why some call freedom of speech something of strategic value on not something merely desired as a human right. It's actually necessary to make shit work and understand things in grey areas.
>>221474501You guys really like to talk alot.
>>221474375>auraPicrel is the ""aura"" the average Egypsy lives in. All those billions were worth it to give tourists hecking epic selfie scenes doe!!!!>>221474415Nope. The only way to fix it is through purging it from the roots with fire and blood because there's no other way to get the army's claws out of the country. We can't even do that without triggering a HUGE collapse because our demographics are a tower of cards begging to implode because we're extremely overpopulated and if war/revolution stops the food shipments and subsides millions WILL starve because we're not even close to self-sufficiency in food production. Biggest world importer of grain for a reason since 2022 btw.The Finn in >>221474031 is wrong btw, it IS your problem because the collapse and hordes of terrorist refugees will body slam Europa and Der Lyden will let them in just like Merkel did with the Syrians.
>>221474520the guy is drunk/retarded, ignore himthey think the country with the fourth biggest oil reserves and production has a problem with this war just like their oil importing country does
I mean, they do have a perpetual resource with the Suez Canal though. It could theoretically pay or at least pretend to pay off debts of massive size. Most countries do not have even that. The problem is, will that drive up costs globally to the point where nobody uses the Canal and just goes around the horn or via Panama?Israel would be stupid if they built their canal, because how are you going to protect the red sea (especially after seeing the hormuz shit recently)?
rare thread about economics and statecraft. Based
>>221474520Some say too much.I say talking is the problem that got humanity into this mess as our original sin, but that's too biblical for some (and also me).Bible talk didn't stop the world wars after all.Some argue it created it.
>Israel: well actually we'll just build our own canal if it's this expensive to use the suez>Egypt: No you will not.>war happens>World: well we'll use the horn and panama canals insteadHow would they stop this?This is a pretty stupid bluff right?Unless they have capability to stop that somehow?
>>221474706this is your brain on x: the everything app
>>221474548Well yeah, the dependence on imported food is really a massive problem, 2011 might just happen all over again or perhaps even worse. People in Europe won't accept more refugees, things have changed quite a bit compared to how it was in 2015, the situation could even get violent if they started coming here.
>>221474785He genuinely believes an invisible Jewish sky ghost is deliberately causing us to be retarded and corrupt. Ignore him or just filter his flag>>221474807It'll be far worse than 2011 imo. We can only hope it'll be a quick and relatively bloodless transfer of power like the Arab spring but it probably won't be. You won't do shit however and your chuds are pussies
>>221474917Considering what's happening with oil and fertiliser prices I'm afraid it doesn't look too good. And it's not just the chuds anymore, I'm telling you, attitudes have changed a lot and if a wave of people appears there will be a strong reaction.
>>221474785No this is my brain on "Bill Gates and that Saudi dude in that room above the room Paddock shot many people from in Las Vegas".The saudis are out for blood.I wonder if Egypt has done similar now. This is the future of politics - blackmail, subversion, rape and torture everywhere.
I don't understand the process behind getting foreign money to make something like thisObviously it will never, NEVER give any return to you let alone to the country, so why do it? Letting constructors pocket more of the money than if you spent it on shit in your own country? I'm not smart enough for this shit
>>221475190It's money laundering for his bribes to his military posse to buy their loyalty. Well that and to fuel his ego by having le hecking tallest tower in le Africa like a modern Ozymandias mixed with generic despot megalomania.Recycled post: >>221359540
>>221473516What are your thoughts on Morsi. Would things have been better if the West didn't meddle in your democracy and topple him?
>>221475155Just worry about when your oil runs out first, Varg.>bitches don't know this country nearly had an economic collapse/famine because of green energy pushing the shut down of oil refineries and storage hereAustralia learned just how dumb their government and corporations really were that day. I swear the panic was bigger than covid for a second there. Which is actually correctly deduced, we were fucking close to venezuala for a moment there.Administrators are just the dumbest fucking cunts on the planet that just lie for their position to the point where it nearly fucks our economy up completely in an instant. They just have zero perception of... anything period.So that's why Sisi likely did this unless some covert agency is deliberately burning the ship (because ASIO did fuck all to stop Bondi despite having complete surveillance and all the tools, that's for sure).
>>221475285Egypt, we get that it's black investment strategies, we just like how they look and that's it. I'm just shocked they look this good when normally such things look like complete shit in most other countries, including western countries.
>>221475155If it happens before Trump is gone, the European governments will embrace the refugees because it's the opposite of what Trump would do.
>>221475286He was similarly incompetent to Sissy, marginally less corrupt (not an achievement), and stupid enough to really piss off the military who couped him for it. We'd probably be marginally better off with him but he also might've declared an unwinnable war against Israel and gotten us raped in the Sinai again like in 1948, '67, '73, etc. I don't like islamists but they're realistically the only alternative left>le west couped le poor innocent ikhwanji who didnt do nuffinLol
>>221473659>Those buildings are rock solid>Modernism can fuck offBrutalism will outlive all
>>221475666Brutalism, the way Nazis did it, was shithouse though. Just bunkers.Egypt is doing, EGYPT not bunkers.All will bow before Ankha's glory or be crushed.
I will admit, this does come off as LARPing a bit when doing this shit. But then again doing anything is considered LARPing nowadays.
With all those Japshit threads up I have forgotten how dogshit australian posters are.
>>221473421Modern Egypt fascinates me. When I tell my peers that their population has doubled in 30 years, none of them believe me. I can't even imagine what Finland would look like if we had 10 million living here now.
>>221475428Lmao why do you use the word rape so much, it’s peppered in every other post in this thread>>221475377>Replacing your own populations to own le orange man and get tons of upboats on RedditGrim, I honestly get all the chudposting from European flags now
>>221476532The population doubling in a generation is/was fairly standard in developing countries, in fact if you go back in time long enough you will find something similar in Finland's history when birthrates were very high (likely the 1800s and early 1900s).What's hard to believe is that it's 120 million people living in the narrow strip of land that is the Nile river's banks. I really can't imagine how crowded that must feel, part of me wants to visit just to experience it first hand.
>>221473516But it looks cool though.
>>221473421Modern egyptians (except copts) have no relation to the pyramids so that is a larp (expensive one)
>>221473421People say this is kitsch but it is fact that art styles that embrace nation's history are based.In the West everything new is concrete or glass boxes.
>>221473421ugly, wasteful and made for corrupt government kleptocrats. they wanted to turn egypt into north korea but egyptians are too rowdy and un-bug-like for korean style communism so they just built a mini-north-korea instead
When is the last time a leader went full Medici and just started commissioning a ton of art and architecture from his nation's artists? This is all I would do
>>221473481I think North Korean buildings look nice
>>221473625They could build 10 more buildings like that or even prettier if funds went to productive purposes. The far-sighted men of destiny thing is to improve the economy and the standard of living of your country.In fact you can notice some of the buildings are already under-maintained and likely to become less pretty.
>>221476095It's just one annoying cunt. I've never seen a bloke so chuffed at the sound of his own voice
>>221473421VGH, walkable cities
>>221476853this has been deboonked
>>221473516Thank you for your service
>>221473481>Islamic architecture is when huge fuckass pagan symbolismGo back to Mosul faggot
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>>221476853This Also modern irakis have nothing to do with babylon aside from christians there, the syrians and lebanese have nothing to do with assyria and phoenicia aside from christians, all modern north africans have nothing to do with ancient north africa aside from christians....Wait im seeing a pattern
>>221477005It's kitsch because it has no relation to modern Egypt. Egypt is a muslim nation, the people don't give a shit about their history anymore. There are extremist groups who deface ancient monuments and looters destroy and pillage tombs all the time to sell artifacts to tourists. Shit like this is basically turning Egypt into a Disneyland version of itself. It would be like if Japan suddenly started building pagodas everywhere with modern building materials. I hate to use a buzzword, but it's soulless. This was built to attract tourists, not provide a future for the Egyptian people.
>>221473421Sovl
>>221476608It's our cultchah chud>>221477767He's partially correct thoughever
>>221473516it happens when you vote for a chud
>>221474087global warming is fake
It's neat but I dislike that it's all tan/sand colored, Ancient Egypt had painted murals and shit.Revivalist Classical/Greco-Roman and Mesoamerican architecture does the same shit where it looks like ruins and I hate it, use some damn color>>221479582Japan still maintains and respects it's traditional architecture and feudal period castles and shit though>it has no relation to modern Egypt.>the people don't give a shit about their history anymoreThis has always seemed like a circular argument to me. Sure, people in Egypt or Mexico might not identify a ton with their country's ancient history, but plenty of countries do like Italy or Japan, and the only real difference is that the former don't see themselves as having cultural continuity with their ancient past and the latter do"seeing themselves as having continuity" and "giving a shit" are things that can change if people decide they want it to, it's entirely about self-perception. Obviously getting a whole country full of people to re-examine their own connection to their ancient past isn't exactly an easy thing to do, but there's also no reason it CAN'T happen>>221473516>>221473823>>221473823>>221474548>>221473863I don't really have much to say other then sorry your country is fucked, anon
>>221473421>pharoah sissy bodied that freak
>>221474548Buy Saskatchewan wheat.
Egypt should become a province of Sweden
>>221479490>2026>nafroid finally unlocks pattern recognitionvery good
>>221483385sweden will become a province of egypt
>>221483608>2026>whiteoid still hasn't unlocked sarcasm
>>221474018Gorgeous scene
>>221473833They will have me
>>221473516>muh povertyYou could've given that money to the poor and they would've spent it on food and gambling within a few months and after that no one will remember what the government did and if it was good. Meanwhile those buildings will stand for generations, millions of Egyptians and tourists will look at them in awe thus doing good for all of them. Just ask yourself had the Pharaohs chosen to give their money to the poor instead of building giant tombs and temples would your country be better off now? Do you really wish those great monuments of your Nation had never existed just so that peasants could consume more stuff for a while
>>221488419He's a small man, a poor fool.
>>221488419He's correct. You're a nigger foreigner that doesn't have to live in the country
>>221482003>He's partially correct thougheverNope. The idea that Muslim Egyptians have less of a connection to ancient Egyptians thant Christian is total bunk. All Egyptians have non-Egyptian ancestry from the constant migration flows since time immemorial until this day. There is no uber pure population unless you arbitrarily ass pull a cutoff date or push weird narratives.
>>221475190government debt is backed by government liabilities. they have gas fields to pay debt back.
