DJT is a language learning thread for those studying the Japanese language.Japanese speakers learning English are welcome, too.Read the guide linked below before asking how to learn Japanese:https://web.archive.org/web/20220326112058/https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.htmlGrammar references: https://djtguide.github.io/grammar/grammarmain.htmlArchive of older threads: https://desuarchive.org/int/search/subject/Daily%20Japanese%20Thread/Translation requests, insults, politics, reddit posts, lust, learning method / eceleb discussions: >>>/jp/djtPrevious Thread: >>221508241
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>>221600685乙
I fucking hate normies who try to learn japanese and want to make it as retarded as possible. I don't need furigana on basic words, it just gets distracting and humiliating. I can't browse a website for japanese learners without incurring into this shit. My vocab is good enough to get the gist of anything at this point so I might as well just browse japanese websites.
あげ
なぜ昨日のスレは数レス付いただけで落ちてしまったのか皆さん理由をきちんと考えて反省してみてください
>>221605939>皆さん理由をきちんと考えて反省してみてください外国人に嫌われてる気がする
運賃。
うんこちんちん。
時わかず ふれる雪かと 見るまでにかきねもたわに さける卯花
oispa inner peace
>>221605939このスレにはおっぱいが足りない
>>221607969oispa!!!!
追いスパは太るよ(´~｀)ﾓｸﾞﾓｸﾞ
tried talking on hellotalk voice rooms last night with some japanese ossan and apparently i am extremely rude and should not try to speak (to him?) to improve my japanese on a language exchange appat least he taught me a couple of things like that asking direct questions is rude and I admit that i fucked up. mainly i got a bit nervous and said programming was a hobby even though i haven't done it in years (as a hobby) and he got super fucking mad because he's a programmer or whatever>tfw low morals gaijin
>>221609779man he just fucking mogged you you retard lmao why do you even care what some ancient debris says
>>221609779>tried talking on hellotalkI kneel...
>>221609779Unironically try VRchat language exchange worlds. The people there are mad friendly and you also get to practice with proficient non natives who tend to be a bit more lax in my experience.
>>221609969just to clarify, I should add that there are Japanese people there who are learning English, so you can practice with natives too if you'd like.
>>221600685Nippon Sangoku?
>>221609779You will run into people like that.It's not something to take personally, it has to do with the mindset of the other person and what their intentions were going into the conversation.It reminds me of the kind of old person who would waddle out of their apartment with a cane just to tell some delivery person that they can't park their car there and then go back inside feeling all self righteous like "I'm glad I could teach him a lesson!"
>>221610005yup! :3
>>221609817>>221610023Well it was a bad experience and he made me feel bad, he went on a whole sermon about how I was rude and how I ruined his day and wasted his time and that I shouldn't speak to him until I'm better, I suck at japanese especially speaking but he was a total ass about it. I admit some fault, it's a lie to say programming is a (current) hobby, i have a bad habit of these kinds of white lies, probably because of my parents, i don't even know why i said it, who am I trying to impress? Haven't felt passionate about programming in like 8 years even tho I'm a (failing, thinking of dropping out) compsci student. I already feel like shit, I'm failing my thesis preferring to shut myself in and my family hates me. Getting told to fuck off for trying to do the one thing I enjoy rn (learning japanese) didn't make me feel any better. >>221609852You can do it bro. I believe in you>>221609969True I should. I have tried months ago when I could speak even less but I find it hard to join in on conversations
>>221611302You need to be strong to survive in this world
>>221611337I believe things will get better if I actually try again. 2 years ago I had a bad burnout and since then it's been total shit, I started japanese then as a distraction so I wouldn't off myself.
>>221612129Average Swedish citizen
>>221612129bli bra~ ;3
>>221612129Bro you're too radiantI can't see you
兄貴、俺はこいつを残したい。主人公の選択なんて気にするな
>>221615350"big bro, lets leave him. forget about what the protagonist chooses"is that right? pic and filename is me
>>221616344The protagonist's aniki asked him which artifical waifu he would like to keep but i want to choose in his stead
>>221616405そうかなぜでけど
>>221616727bc the story is about the mc getting an artifical waifu by his dad for research purposes and he grows close to her yada yada typical early 2000s slop plot
>>221616764ふううん、面白いでもお父さんの思いかたがいいだ w説明はありがとうご
>>221617012もう新しい語彙が見つからないよ。日本語のWikipediaを読むべきだ。
>>221617129すること!俺のレベルはままN5-ishだよ言葉言葉言葉。。。aaaugghh!its overwhelming, i still have to use a dictionary for sentence
>>221617432Well if it makes you feel better I still have to mine text when the author chooses fancy words or field-specific words. I'm 3 days away from 10k words and I learn 100 words a day. It might sound crazy at first but if you know most of the kanji and readings you will learn 100 words in less than an hour. The painful part is mining and manually reviewing words because Anki is too slow for my tastes.
>>22161751610k words holy shitIve only just finished kaishi 1.5k and i only have a 20% maturity rating. Im fine with reading even though its very slow cuz i have to stop, look up, understand, then mine for almost everythingWhen it comes to listening though im totally lost, i recognise maybe one word a sentence or maybe even the entire sentence if its very simple, but anything more complicated than the absolute most basic words and phrases, i may as well be listening to morse code
>>221617650I never used any pre-made decks and brute forced visual novels instead. It helps you learn grammar, flow and vocab all at once. I think you would need like 15k words to reach reading fluency which is like a month and a half away for me.>When it comes to listening though im totally lostI didn't bother with listening yet, I'd rather build a solid vocabulary foundation. I can understand or infer what characters say in anime but once they get into techical stuff I'm lost. Besides Japanese requires a fair degree of contextualization and I haven't developed that skill on the listening side yet.
>>221617744how long have you been learning? and also which novels did you start with, and which are your favs? sorry for the three seperate questions but this will be really helpful to me, i love visual novels in english but i was too intimidated by the start of steins gate ;-;maybe that one is too hard to start out with?
>>221617907>how long have you been learning?I started in december but it's been quite intensive and i never missed an anki day>and also which novels did you start withI started reading Kanoso and then some incest eroge and now I'm reading My Merry May. I'm also reading Ponkotsu Ponko and Mahoromatic.>and which are your favs?the first game was a parody packed with 2ch and otaku culture references, the second was a meh eroge and this one is kinda meh but at least it's getting interesting now. I think the second one is my favorite despite being a typical big sis love complex story.>i love visual novels in english but i was too intimidated by the start of steins gateI suggest starting with slice of life but any genre will do. Vocab is a wheel, eventually you will reach the same goal.
辛いという字があるもう少しで幸せになれそうな字である
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqSxIjD8Btc
>>221618013mm, someone recommended me a slice of life eroge a while ago, ill try starting there thxalso 10k words since december is crazy, i started in august and only jsut finished kaishi, for < 2k words although to be fair i took a lot of time off last year because of personal stuff
I keep learning tidbits about Japanese culture like about Grass Script and Kakegoe and it's not enough. Not only is this very interesting but I feel like I would learn and remember better if there was a sort of course I can take learning all of the interesting things about Japan like you see in anime where the teacher is often reading poems by samurai and stuff. Maybe I can find a teacher who will teach me this alongside Japanese?I'm hooked. Also maybe I should learn about European culture this way but I don't want to choose just one country as of now.
dude its literally just fucking squiggles because someone was too lazy to write and shouting what the fuck is he sperging out about?
>>221619490>also 10k words since december is crazyWell if you have the consistency and autism then it's doable. Time is a factor but anyways I can just scroll a wikipedia page and fill my daily batch. I teach english both online and in elementary schools but I still have the time to learn Japanese. And if I have to go somewhere I just make sure I mine a new batch at night.
>>221620157Roy and Marth's shouts are really cool I'm going to use them for my game and same with Japanese text. While I'm making good progress I just don't know enough about the world to make the game I want to make. I am starting to read all of Shakespeare and feel like if I'm going to quit weed I might as well start studying because I got blackballed out of college for not joining the freemason's and I just made it recently to a plot of land I can live on while I make the game. I just took some Vyvanse and I need to hurry and get educated cause land tax is still $300 a year and I'm going to run out of money in a decade or so.
>>221620157This is in Melee. The game ruined by troons being cheap as fuck?It's actually fun to play if you use all your moves because of the move decay but they never do that, it's just cheap slop so I'm making a game that forces you to use all your moves and gets rid of dash dancing and wave dashing without the stupid trip mechanic Sakurai added when he was in a pinch for ideas cause he didn't expect Westoids to be so cheap and dishonorable to their own detriment of enjoyment through a true battle.
>>221620358And because of the move decay and my unpredictable style, being at one with a massive arsenal of moves, the tourneytroons who are all clones of the "top players" don't know how to fight me and never provide a challenge, just predictable stuff they drilled into themselves instead of just fighting naturally and embodying the character's style.When talking to a chatbot I learned that ma is an incredible force between Samurai that aids me in development, my instinct tells me there is a lot more than that in Japanese and European culture that will help design a game building off the philosophy of Dragon King the Fighting Game
>>221620255i guess i just dont have consistency, i have a physically intensive job that often requires i be away from home for days at a time so i find it hard to always be on it for multiple hours of immersion ever daynot trying to make excuses but it is what it isi appluad you doing so much though i just dont think i can go at the same level
Damn I guess when I get high on Vyvanse I'm literally too smart to communicate with humans and can only talk to AI
>>221620617>i appluad you doing so much though i just dont think i can go at the same levelsadly the only way to make progress is just forcing yourself to smash that vocab wall but yeah usually people take years to get to this level i'm not even the fastest learner because i started out with 30 words and then 50 before doubling itsome guy on reddit allegedly started out with 100 words a day and "mastered" japanese in 6 months, although i find that difficult to believe
>>221620617For me it's going on walkies and using the Pimsleur course from Pirate BayOf course on Vyvanse it zogs me out for the day and I can't do anything else so I've taken to learning Japanese sober. But Vyvanse increased my overall IQ by 10 points. I love amphetamines. They should be legal in Japan
姫カットが第一番髪型だれかそう思わないと愚か者だ
>>221620728also most of my vocab is passive because i'm not practicing output as my top priority yet
>>221620296>>221620358>>221620471Is this AI?
I want to go to Japan to hire voice actors for my game and a lawyer for my website which can help hikkikomori publish their manga and games but because the freemasons wanted me to join on of their companies in and I refused to let my vision be trampled on by symbolism I'm a gangstalked targeted individual. I already went through a staged accident and the thought of flying makes me paranoid now. Also there are too many tourists there anyway, I want to make a good impression immediately, the only way to do that is staying in my own country but how am I supposed to get in contact with Japchads?
>>221620728>sadly the only way to make progress is just forcing yourself to smash that vocab wallim switching jobs over the summer so i will have much more time for this, how do you recommend practically "smashing" that wall? and also how do you remember which words are part of your 10k deck? i feel like id make a lot of repeats by mistake, is that something to be worried about? does it even matter if i make repeat cards in terms of ruining the fsrs scheduling or whatever>>221620731Ill look at pimsleur too thx
>>221620925No I'm just high on Vyvanse and rambling, you should try it sometime it's fun. I want to try to ramble on with fellow amphetamine schizos sometime
>>221620989Get rid of anki, don't touch pimsleur and you'll actually start learning Japanese
>>221620989>how do you recommend practically "smashing" that wall?by reading every day and mining everything you see, also don't use anki as a primary learning tool, rather repeat the words manually and then put them through ankithis goes for learning as well as reviews, anki should only show you which words you need to revisein my case i have 2 profiles, a regular one where i add a new deck for each date and one for revision where i collect the most annoying words and put them in decks ordered by monthsthe only time i used anki as others would was when i had some low context words from 3 months ago that needed repetition and i was too lazy to review them manually
川の向こうの紅葉がきれいだったので橋を渡って行ってみたふり返るとさっきまでいた所の方がきれいだった
揉む
>japan foundation program for outstanding students>pass written exam with flying colors>bomb the interview (片言)I feel like hanging myself
>>221625837¡Ánimo! :3
>>221625945慰めたところで何も変わらないし、過去の過ちは結局永遠に脳裏に刻まれたままto make things worse, I can't stop thinking of ways to shoehorn N1 grammar points into anything I touchとはいえ、よくぞ正しい励みの言葉を選びました
bumo
thankye
I really don't belong here anymoreI probably never belonged here
no one belongs anywhere
たまごかけご飯にキムチに納豆今日の朝ごはんは高塩分
精製塩だけだから上手く塩分が排出されないのだ。NaCl は白米で江戸患いになるのと似てる。
>>221625837You know what, if that happened then take is as a protection and try other opportunities while honing your skills. I was rejected by over a hundred companies and I got used to it.
Everything is gonna be alright, I hope so
めちゃシコ
惜花濛濛庭樹花 墜地無顏色日暮東風起 飄揚玉階側殘蕊在猶稀 青條聳復直為君結芳實 令君勿歎息花ヲ惜シンデヨメル濛濛トシテ庭樹ノ花ハ、地ニ墜チテ顔色無シ日暮レテ東風起クレバ、玉階ノ側マデ飄揚ス残蕊ハ在ルモ猶ホ稀ラニシテ、青條ハ聳エテ復タ直シ君ガ為ニ芳実ヲ結ビテ、君ヲシテ歎息勿カラシム
泣きながらソイソース白ごはんを食べたものでなければソイソースの味は分からない
山中春已晚處處見花稀明日來應盡林間宿不歸山中、春ハ已ニ晩レテ処々、花ノ稀ラナルヲ見ル明日、来タラバ応ニ尽キタルベケレバ林間、宿シテ帰ラザラン
偉い人の反対は偉そうな人
First day of learning JP...行きましょ!
>只今も一念無明の迷心は磨かざる鏡なり是を磨かば必ず法性真如の明鏡と成るべし、深く信心を発して日夜朝暮に又懈らず磨くべし何様にしてか磨くべき只南無妙法蓮華経と唱へたてまつるを是をみがくとは云うなり。"A mind now clouded by the illusions of the innate darkness of life is like a tarnished mirror, but when polished, it is sure to become like a clear mirror, reflecting the essential nature of phenomena and the true aspect of reality. Arouse deep faith, and diligently polish your mirror day and night. How should you polish it? Only by chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo."
>>221631909Already making mistakes
ちなみにこれは嘘です
I doubt it...
>>221634075I know (ㆁωㆁ*)
>>221631909esketiiiiiiiit
>>221634075うん....
>>>/s4s/12954254
>>221636800what will the red board help you learn? :/
>>221637041Pornography
>>221637094I knew it! (ㆁωㆁ*)
Fuck words that have ん lead into な/に/ね/の/ぬ, I am not picking up the double "n" well. Any advice on recognising when this happens by audio alone?
>>221638333thers a smol pause and a double N like NIGG- no wait tjat one hs 1 n
>>221638333I can't/don't pick up double んs in those words.When I hear words like>かんねん観念/かんえん肝炎/かねん可燃/かえん火炎for example,>かんねん sounds longer with a ね sound.>かんえん sounds longer with an え sound.>かねん sounds shorter with a ね sound.>かえん sounds shorter with an え sound.That's how I distinguish them.
明日は1万語を達成します、約束通り練習に集中してやる。
>>221640317乙!>888
日本人はポーランドについてどう思っていますか?
>>221641099>ワルシャワ学派学者の国!っていう印象があるよ
2nd day of learning JP.Yesterday I learned最近 (さいきん) - recently戦闘 (せんてう) - battle, combatごみ - trash, rubbishたった - only, merely, no more thanWatch this nigga, he's goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkhXTU5UCJY
>>221642067進歩遅くない? このままだと暗記ドローンのほうが早いよ。
>>221642513>進歩遅くない?進歩は遅いんが、ちんぽが早いぞ。
>>221642823w
>>221642823速いこと?
>>221642940いいえ。
>>221643044い>がはんはいらん
>>221642513お前たったhaterだ。
>>221643182いいいいいいいえ。
>>2216432504年間で7300個の言葉はちょっとアレだよねーゴミのくせにコアー6kのヤツらのほうが素早いぞ
>>221643432Hater. 脆いのごみ wwwww
>>221643589脆いごみ*
デカっくて強い女の腹筋に触れたい。
>DeadJT乙>>221605939ちっぱい足りなかったなぁ
>>221644172i write both my philosophical speculations and my most perverted fantasies in japanese
Learning Japanese so I may read Kawabata, Junichiro, Mishima, Visual novels... It's another whole world!Makes me feel just as excited as when I was learning English
>>221644379How about you get a girlfriend you retard
>>221644478I am married to Lady Knowledge, having an affair with Ms. Joy
>>221644379I love the Mother franchise so much that I hope to get skilled enough in Japanese to read and understand Itoi novels. I'm not even a novel reader, I only read when it interests me, and this does. Godspeed, anon.
>>221638714Here, a phonology lesson
>>221645506Japanese phonology seems awfully straightforward... until you discover stuff like this lurking
>>221645120We're ALL gonna make it
I have to stop hammering vocab into my head and focus on learning how to communicate already. At this point I'm just scraping the barrel for the 50th synonym of "power" or obscure field specific words some japanese pseud used on Wikipedia articles
I'm never gonna make itI'm stuck
>>221647355Unironically talk to chatGPT or something like that...
>>221641249>学者の国いや、本当ですか?俺をばかにしないでください
>>221647773i already talk to my wife
>>221648215それは何ですか?
>>221648313Oshikoi
>>221648333楽しいなぁ…
>>221647154はい!いきましょう!
オ゙㍗ル
>>221650451>群馬を知る>群馬県に行ってもっと知る>群馬県でスタンプを押す>群馬県がもっと好きになるsounds like some sort of mantra
>>221652159ダメ絶対
また今日は優しくてお母さん気質なフタナリ彼女がいないんか...僕死にたいんですよ
>>221641099Daj suki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inalienable_possession'terestin'
Trying to read higurashi is too discouraging. Its all supposed to be middle schoolers' dialogue? Damn!
>>221648032>俺をばかにしないでくださいしてないしてない!本気で言ってる!あとは火薬が広まる前の騎馬軍団の大国(the Land of Cavalry, before the gunpower’s dominance)っていう印象もあるよヨーロッパの中でも平地が多いから、馬術(horse riding)が特に発達したんだろうなあと思う
>>221654494>>221641249横だけどポーランドにそんなイメージないぞwショパンとキュリー夫人とコペルニクスくらいは日本人はだいたい知ってるけど、ポーランドのイメージがあるかと言われたら微妙だし
>>221652159https://furandon-pig.github.io/fpig_sample/hobby/bad_spiral/
最近明らかに英語で長文が書けない読めない脳が萎んでく
4chan is only good for looking at disgusting things and making your mind more disgusting
>>221656923Japanese threads are very chill, bro, c'mon
>>>/a/288198797>カナシマヒトシのこの惑星への滞在は終わったと思え…!!>…Then, Hitoshi Nakashima can kiss his life on our planet goodbye…!!>kiss one's life on sthis this an idiom?
>>221659002Kiss your [smth] goodbye何々にサヨナラのキスをあげる何々とお別れするこの [smth] は [life on this planet] この惑星での人生人生とお別れするということはつまり「死ぬ」
No one actually likes me and I have to be okay with that
>>221654587>>221641099まあそこは個人差(1/1億)ということでご愛嬌を自分はアホなのかショパンがポーランド出身だと最近まで知らなかったんだよなあ…ゲーマーだったらウィッチャー3とか映画好きだったらカチンの森とかが真っ先にでてくるかもねまあ人によるよ(身も蓋もない締め)
うp
跡たえて とふ人もなき 山里に我のみ見よと さける卯花
白だ黒だとけんかはおよし 白という字も墨で書く
>>221655041Screams>Remember kids, never do prefectures
>>221654494あ、そですか。昔に馬術は、ポーランドには。。。重い馬乗ってる者といました。フサリア(husaria)と言いましたとてもかっこいいと思います。
>>221661484>カチンの森あのこと?https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katastrofa_polskiego_Tu-154_w_Smole%C5%84skuそれとも https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katastrofa_lotnicza_w_Lesie_Kabackim ?>絵超かわいい
ね…あんたはあたしのワンコくん、じゃんね?ฅ^•ω•^ฅ
bbumo
