Mandarin, Arabic and Japanese are the only languages worth learning after English. Discuss.
>>221630234How and why does portugal have higher english proficiency than Spain?
No one speaks MSA so arabic is learning a hard language like 3-4 times. Not worth it.
>>221630234We won.
WHAT THE HELL IS NEW ZEALAND DOING THERE???
>>221630437Don't they learn it at school and see it on news, books, documents?
>>221630234This map is fake. Only about half of South Africans can speak English but that counts as very high proficiency. Meanwhile Finland is the third highest ESL country in English proficiency, above of Sweden, but is marked as lesser proficiecy than both Sweden and South Africa.
>>221630234Why isn’t India considered native?Or the Philippines, for that matter.
>>221630437Correct plus if they can't already speak English or French they're probably a lumpenprole or a churl and interacting with them will bring 0 value. Learn Mandarin instead>>221630547Sure but literally no one uses it in daily conversation and 99% of Arabic is in vernacular dialects which have various degrees of intelligibility with MSA so you'll have to learn them too because only sheikhs and writers and such can fluently use Fusha
>>221630557If you have a better map...>221630574Because most people in India can't speak English. In the Philippines the native language is Tagalog
>>221630234Spanish has 100 million more speakers than Arabic
>>221630234what make some brazilians learn english while most dont?
>>221630613If I want to work with companies in the Arabian world would I need to learn the regional vernacular? I assumed MSA was like a formal register and educated people would be able to communicate with it
>>221630650According to this map, most Spanish-speaking countries have at least moderate English proficiency, so it wouldn't be necessary to learn a new language unless you need to speak to Mexicans and Colombians in specific.>>221630662We only learn the very basics at school. Brazilians that learn English are terminally online freaks. It's 4AM in Brazil right now, that's the kind of person I am
>>221630664If your work involves interacting with non-white collar coworkers/clients then yes. I busted my ass in HS and learned MSA and Quranic Arabic throughout all my time in school and i still suck at it and depise using it although i can passively understand it just fine
>>221630437Everyone who's ever read quran does, stop listening to bitter terminally online atheists
>very hightugal
>>221630736That's a skill issue on your endNot saying the brazilian will have an easier time but by middle school you should be able to be extremely proficient and your mistakes should be reduced to using the wrong hamza while writing online or whatever
>>221630574>>221630615
>>221630234No value is gained from Arabs
>>221630736So what if I chose to learn Egyptian Arabic instead? I heard it is well understood in other Arabic countries because of the prefominance of Egyptian media
>>221630888*predominance
argentina is a surprise
>>221630344We had all foreign movies dubbed during Paquito's dictatorship (Yep, Franco), it was a way of keeping foreign ideas away. (e.g. 1946 Gilda had several parts of the plot altered). Portugese had their film subtitled, and their phonetics are not as limited as ours.Further to this, french was the only foreign languaje taught in schools until late 70's, when we switched to english with barely any people capable of teaching it, it has been a slow and painful change.
>>221630234You're retarded. It's German, French, and Spanish. In that order.
>>221631567Buddy, I don't know who taught you english, but even if /int is intended for bantering, I wouldn't start addressing somebody using "retard".
>>221630234No way we have such low proficiency
>>221631612You're brown and retarded and probably a boomer. Kys.
>>221630234>Japanesenice sneak
>>221630234>JapaneseOnly if you’re a diehard weeb. In terms of global commerce, politics, and culture, Japanese is way down on the list of important languages. This isn’t the 80s anymore.
>>221630234Argentina is wrong, people who "speak English" are rare, people who properly speak English are almost non-existant
>>221631652Ok pvt Gomez
>>221630557It has millions of EFL'sdumb ESL
there are no languages worth learning after english
>>221631531Damn :/
>>221630234>implying natives are proficientlol
>>221630774>>221630574Correction: Many parts of the philippines have their own unique dialects and languages such as Bisaya, but the OFFICIAL language required to be taught in schools is Tagalog (called Filipino), English is another official language because of Murican colonization.
>>221631531It was bizarre when I was visiting Spain and a motel hostess in a moderately large town spoke barely a word in english.
>>221630234japanese is cool but uselessarabic only if you want to deal with them, and why would you want that?Mandarin would really be useful but way too difficultAI is going to make all of that outdated anyway