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Why is Based Portugal significantly more European than spain?
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>>221649510
massive italo brazilian immigration
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>>221649510
Because is poorest duuuuh, acording to IBGE, portuguese diáspora that started in 1530, stoped to get Brazil as a nice place to migrate until 2009
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>>221649588
>vira lata seethe about their glorious anglo-allied Portuguese masters
you love to see it
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>>221649510
>Turkey
>38%
press X to doubt
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>>221649510
isn't italy and the balkans full of gypsies? are they considered european?
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Fake map
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>>221649510
>Why is Based Portugal significantly more European than spain?
>>221649904
>Fake map

Yes, the figures on that map are arbitrary at best.

Ranking of non-European population by country:

1. UK: 25%.
2. France: 20%.
3. Netherlands: 15%.
4. Sweden: 13%.
5. Belgium: 12%.
6. Germany: 12%.
7. Spain: 10% (including the 1 million Roma).

Portugal is 8%. However, there is a phenomenon of statistical invisibility (which makes its population seem, on average, more exotic and swarthy than Spaniards). This is because among its local (supposedly European) population, it is estimated that around 6% of Portuguese have direct family roots, to some degree, in former African colonies such as Angola or Cape Verde. Therefore, that 8% would be more accurately described as 13-14%. And that's probably why there's a slightly lower percentage of blondes (9% Portugal - 13% Spain) and blue eyes (8% Portugal - 16% Spain) there.
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>>221650569
cope, 81% of spain is ethnically spanish or holds citizenship, real numbers are below that because of latinx who have it but aren't actually spanish
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>>221649510
probably because jews opened the gates of toledo
it's amazing how we keep letting these creatures back in but i don't think anyone will save them this time
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This map was true maybe in 2006
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>>221649510
How tf are we on the same level as Serbia
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>>221650774
>it's amazing how we keep letting these creatures back in but i don't think anyone will save them this time
it's you latinx diaspora who bring down spain paco
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>>221650642
>cope, 81% of spain is ethnically spanish or holds citizenship, real numbers are below that because of latinx who have it but aren't actually spanish
We're talking about ethnically European people... A french guy living and working in Spain has no spanish nationality but it is european (not a part of that 19% of foreigners).

Look, nobody denies that we're all screwed. On average, one in four children born in Europe today has non-european parents, and if we include children of naturalized non-european citizens, it's even more disheartening. But the numbers are what they are. What you're saying about Spain happens with non-Europeans in all the continent. If we counted those who became naturalized in the last thirty years and their children, we'd have to add another 7% to Spain, but another 10% to Portugal, or another 12% to the UK.

These Byzantine discussions and competitions are absurd, really.
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>>221651050
I'm not latinx you dumb brown retard
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>>221651244
>not a part of that 19% of foreigners
my mistake, of course it is a foreigner part of that 19% but counts as ethnically european.
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This is bullshit, there is a geoegian in every corner in poland waiting to mug you and we are asian.
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>>221649510
What's counted as European in this map?
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>>221649510
italia must be preserved
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>>221651425
>What's counted as European in this map?
Who knows?
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>>221651405
>This is bullshit, there is a geoegian in every corner in poland waiting to mug you and we are asian.
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>>221649510
Spain: 0%
Portugal: 0%
Italy: 0%
Serbia: 0%
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>>221651425
do i look italian or spanish?
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>>221649510
We avoided all mass migration movements until recently
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>>221651630
>do i look italian or spanish?
Texan.
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>>221651371
sure you aren't senoooooor
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>>221651244
you're not germany or france, no europeans move to spain for work.
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>>221651803
>you're not germany or france, no europeans move to spain for work.
Obviously not as many as those two countries, but of course people from other European countries come to work here, and then retirees, business owners, etc., also come to live here. For example, there are 30,000 Spaniards officially working in Italy, but 100,000 Italians working and paying taxes in Spain. You have a very distorted view of European reality.
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>>221652000
your inferiority complex to everyone else in europe is funny, i thought it was just towards anglos and the french but you have it to italians as well

you are the worst country in western europe
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>>221651782
I'm literally from Wales
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>>221652017
>your inferiority complex to everyone else in europe is funny, i thought it was just towards anglos and the french but you have it to italians as well
>you are the worst country in western europe
It's just an example. The assumptions you're making from it are truly delusional.
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>>221652017
Your inferiority complex to Spain is funny, chicano.
They conquered your country. They taught you how to be civilized. They built up your country. And you are still butthurt about some gold they took from you.
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>>221651803
>you're not germany or france, no europeans move to spain for work.
Let's see if you like this example better:
- 400,000 English people residing permanently in Spain (75,000 of them working).
- 300,000 Spaniards residing permanently in the UK (180,000 of them working).
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>>221652247
I'm 100% NW European paco, you're not spanish
My Anglo Ancestors defeated enemy moorberians
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>>221652262
>bong retirees move to spain so we're more european than them o algo
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>>221652277
That delusional conclusion is yours, not mine.
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>>221649818
It's under 1% in Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Albania, some 1 to 2% in Serbia, Macedonia Greece, around 5% (or possibly more) in Romania and Bulgaria. The largest non-European group in Bulgaria and Macedonia tend to be Turks. Gypsies aren't that numerous.
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>>221649510
The real answer is not even Brazilians want to immigrate to Portugal
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>>221652265
>My Anglo Ancestors defeated enemy moorberians

The numbers don't lie. Of the eight major wars between England and Spain (between the 16th and 19th centuries, although Castile had already defeated them earlier), Spain won five, England won two, and one was inconclusive:

Anglo-Spanish War (1585-1604): Spain won.

Anglo-Spanish War (1625-1630): Spain won.

Anglo-Spanish War (1654-1660): inconclusive.

War of the Spanish Succession (1701-1713): Spain won.

War of Jenkins' Ear (1739-1748): Spain won.

Seven Years' War (1762-1763): England won.

American Revolutionary War (1779-1783): Spain won (with American rebels and France).

Anglo-Spanish War (1796–1808): England wins at Trafalgar (against the Napoleonic-Spanish fleet).

And if we consider individual battles (more than one hundred): Spain wins 55% (mostly land battles or defensive naval engagements); England wins 35% (mostly engagements on the high seas); and 10% are undecided.
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>>221649510
>Cuckmany
>90% european
I doubt it
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>>221652509
Great Britain (and its predecessor, the Kingdom of England) won the majority of the major wars fought against Spain. Out of roughly 10 major conflicts spanning the 16th to 19th centuries, England or Britain secured decisive victories or more advantageous peace treaties in the majority of them.
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>>221652536
1. Anglo-Spanish War (1585–1604) Winner: Spain. Elizabeth I of England supported the Dutch Revolt. Although the Spanish Armada failed in 1588, the following year Spain completely destroyed the English Armada. The conflict ended with the Treaty of London, which was very favorable to Spain.

2. Anglo-Spanish War (1625–1630) Winner: Spain. England attempted to take advantage of Spanish weakness at the beginning of the Thirty Years' War. The British launched a massive attack on the city of Cádiz in 1625, but suffered a humiliating military defeat.

3. Anglo-Spanish War (1654–1660) Undecided. Conflict provoked by Cromwell. England managed to capture the island of Jamaica and sink the Spanish treasure fleet in Tenerife, but its main attacks on the Caribbean failed, and the economic cost left England bankrupt.

4. War of the Spanish Succession (1701–1713) Winner: Spain and France. Great Britain fought to prevent a Bourbon king from ascending to the Spanish throne. Militarily, the British captured Gibraltar, but politically they lost the war: King Philip V retained the Spanish throne.

5. War of Jenkins' Ear (1739–1748) Winner: Spain. Great Britain attempted to wrest control of trade in the Caribbean from Spain. It ended in an absolute military disaster for the British after their defeat at the Battle of Cartagena de Indias (1741) at the hands of Blas de Lezo. Spanish colonial trade remained intact.

6. Seven Years' War (1762–1763) Winner: Great Britain. Spain entered the global conflict late to support France. The British managed to temporarily capture Havana and Manila. In the Treaty of Paris, Spain had to cede Florida, although it received Louisiana in return.
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>>221652536

7. American Revolutionary War (1779–1783) Winner: Spain (in alliance with France and the American rebels). Spain took advantage of British weakness to declare war and recover territories. General Bernardo de Gálvez expelled the British from the Gulf of Mexico, and after the signing of the peace treaty, Spain legally recovered Menorca and Florida.

8. Anglo-Spanish War (1796–1808) Winner: Great Britain. Spain was under Napoleonic France. Battle of Trafalgar (1805).
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>>221649510
I wish it was that high
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>>221652635
>>221652649
England (and later the United Kingdom) won more of the direct conflicts between the two nations. While Spain had notable localized and defensive victories, England secured more decisive strategic outcomes in their major wars, which drove the gradual decline of the Spanish Empire and the rise of British global supremacy.

The two nations fought seven major wars between the late 16th and early 19th centuries:

Anglo-Spanish War (1585–1604): England defeated the famous Spanish Armada. While Spain launched counter-armadas and won some skirmishes, the war ended in a stalemate that secured England's independence and marked the beginning of Spain's imperial decline.Anglo-Spanish War (1625–1630): An indecisive conflict that largely resulted in a stalemate and the restoration of pre-war conditions.

Anglo-Spanish War (1654–1660): British Victory. England (allied with France) captured Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, and Dunkirk.Anglo-Spanish War (1727–1729): Spain attempted to recapture Gibraltar but failed. The conflict ended in a British victory.Anglo-Spanish War (1762–1763): British Victory. During the Seven Years' War, Britain captured Havana, Cuba, and Manila in the Philippines. Spain was forced to cede Florida to Britain.

Anglo-Spanish War (1779–1783): Spanish Victory. Spain intervened in the American Revolutionary War. The Spanish successfully recaptured Menorca and West Florida, resulting in a Spanish victory.Anglo-Spanish War (1796–1808): British Victory. Fought during the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars. The British severely weakened the Spanish navy—most notably at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805. This war effectively ended when Napoleon invaded Spain in 1808, turning Spain and Britain into allies against the French during the Peninsular War
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>>221652682
>>221652649
>>221652635
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>>221649510
Which groups are the counting as white in Turkey?
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>>221649510
>81%

Spain in 2026 is, at most, like 60% spanish. Like if you go outside you usually find more latinos and muslims than Spaniards. Spain is ironically the first country in Europe to fall for mass demographic replacement, I feel that the situation is much worse than in France even when they have like 5th generation Algerians and such. Places like Catalonia are so insane it's actually difficult to find real Catalans/Spaniards, and everywhere there are foreign women walking with their fucking veils and hijabs.
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>>221652682
A.I. is not your friend. For example:

>England defeated the famous Spanish Armada.
The navy was not defeated in direct combat by the British; its disaster was >>221652682
>While Spain launched counter-armadas
due to severe storms.
No. The English were the ones launching counter-armadas that were annihilated by actual combat (not storms) by the Spaniards.
>>221652682
>marked the beginning of Spain's imperial decline.
Delusional. Slowly decline started in Rocroi. The treaty of London was favorable to Spain, that remained the top dog (the English would not become relevant until the 19th century).
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>>221652864
God destroyed your navy.



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