What was his nationality? This is purely an /int/ernational question no politics here.
Jews hate him so Palestinians get him.
Kingdom of heavenite
no such thing as "nationality" 2026 years ago but he was born and died in the roman province of judea. by today's definition he was roman.
>>221657614Nigerian
>>221657614He was a Black Israelite
>>221657901Go back abdul
>>221657961>>221657614Taleb has spoken.
>>221657960He was actually a White Nephite.
>>221657614Jesus was born in Bethlehem to Joseph and Mary. Joseph was of the Tribe of Judah of the Ancient Israelites. He was raised in Nazareth in the region of Lower Galilee by the Jezreel Valley. The region was ruled by Herod Antipas following the death of his father Herod, who had tried to kill Jesus as a baby.
>>221657614Jee, I guys what was 19th century concept nationality of a man from 0 century. Jeez, I dunno...
>>221658201>The region was ruled by Herod Antipas following the death of his father Herod, who had tried to kill Jesus as a baby.This is mythological. It's not factual. Secular sources never wrote about this.
>>221658167>galilean, not judeansame shit
>>221658231No
>>221657941Herodian Kingdom was technically sovereign, which he was born into
>>221658282I was mainly referring to the baby massacre part.
>>221658292I would not call the Gospel of Matthew mere myth. The Massacre of the Innocents is a matter of unconfirmed history where our only source is one passage in scripture. That a vindictive and evil ruler could order the deaths of all the babies in a large town is entirely possible. That the same ruler could suppress accounts of his actions is also possible. Confirmation of the event may well come at a future time based on archeology.
joo
>>221658481Nah dudeIt's taken from moses story to make jesus sound like moses. Just that only matthew mentions it should be enough to know it's fabrication.
>>221657614Serbian
>>221657614Jesus was a Judean man (not 'modern' Jewish, likely closer in genetics to modern Palestinians than Israelis) living under the authority of the Roman Empire. He was born in Judea, raised in Galilee, and spoke Aramaic as his primary language.
>>221657614He was Greek
>>221658201>Jesus was born in Bethlehem to Joseph and MaryUnlikely, Bethlehem was chosen to match an Old Testament prophecy.
>>221662975Why is it unlikely?
>>221663093Him being from Bethlehem wasn't mentioned in Mark, the first Gospel. It was first mentioned in Matthew, a gospel whose target audience was Jews so there was more of a focus on meeting prophecy. Early Christians were known as Nazoreans, there was a focus on Jesus being from Nazareth, not Bethlehem.
>>221663183The absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.There wasn't much use in Mark adding the Bethlehem detail.Mark wasn't a "cradle to the grave" narrative, but more of an action-focused account of Jesus.It was written for a Gentile (likely Roman) audience.Mark completely skips his birth, his lineage, the magi, and the shepherds, jumping straight to Jesus as an adult being baptized by John the Baptist.Does this mean Jesus' birth, Mary's virginity, and Jesus' lineage wasn't relevant? Of course not.Mark's audience wasn't concerned with Old Testament prophesy, where Matthew's was.It doesn't mean Mark himself didn't know nor care about his birthplace.It simply means that his target audience of his letters likely would've thought it an odd thing to mention at all.
>>221663713It seems incredibly convenient that those parts missing from Mark are all from Old Testament prophecy and would give weight to the claims of him being the Messiah. Luke was written for a Gentile audience, most likely came after Matthew, yet contained Bethlehem, virgin birth etc. Christians often claim Mark is an 'action focused' account of Jesus and completely ignore the historical side to it as a cope to get around why the Gospels differ. I'm not saying you're wrong, but that your argument isn't very strong.
>>221657614He was Serbian. His birth name was Milojko Nemanjić. Fact your checks
Are the people who spam "christ is king" comments in youtube, mostly american evangelicals??
>>221663093Wow what are the chances that hundreds of Old testament prophecies happen to be filfilled in the New testament
>>221664063they are exclusively american christofascists
>>221657614>What was his nationality?Going with Ellis' thesis, he & his brother were Zoroastrian converts into Judaism, albino ginger kinglets, part of the Parthian Empire (Edessa-Osroene; Edessene). From a purely ethnic viewpoint, Maurice Sartre & Ilaria Ramelli write the Abgarids were Arabs, Nabatean extract, speaking Aramaic or a dialect of Aramaic. Subjects to the Arsacids, nonetheless.Albino Arab ginger convert into Judaism from Zoroastrianism. If I were to guess, Vologases I was playing the plausible deniability game after Armenia & Nero's untimely demise.
>>221663844Calling it a "cope" ignores standard literary analysis, even for secular stories. Mark skips the resurrection appearances in the earliest manuscripts too. Is the resurrection unimportant to Christianity?No.Mark truncated the shit out of his letters, and kept it fast-pace, and he chose to start his account when Jesus' public ministry started.Luke explicitly states in his introduction (Luke 1:1-4) that he is writing to a Gentile (Theophilus) to provide an orderly historical account:> 1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, > 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. > 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, > 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.Regardless, I said by my original ( >>221662931 ) assertion for the intent of the OP.
>>221657614He spoke Koine Greek so he was Greek
>>221661008I don't think so. The Massacre of the Innocents is a massacre, not a miracle. There have been plenty of massacres in our own day and age. And even in our time there are often doubts as to whether massacres have actually occurred or not and the question of how many people were killed. Did German soldiers really kill Belgian babies during the Great War? How many Russians died in White and Red massacres during the Russian Civil War? How many massacres were there during the Spanish Civil War? How many Jews did the Einsatzgruppen kill during World War Two? How many Belorussians did Oskar Dirlewanger kill?Even in our own time massacres constitute unconfirmed history because often there is a limited number of survivors or witnesses willing to talk about what they saw happen. We rely on the eyewitness testimony sometimes of just one survivor taking us back to the ditch they crawled out of. The actual confirmation is doing a bit of digging and pulling up the human skulls.
>>221657941He died before Rome assumed direct governance of the Region. Herod Antipas was still the King of Judea (albeit they were a client state of Rome)
>>221664800The resurrection appearances were instituted to quell Docetism and other views that believed that perhaps Jesus didn't appear in the flesh after all, notice how with each Gospel the focus on Jesus being of flesh and blood is increased. Mark mentions his resurrection but doesn't go beyond it, and we know from the Epistles what the Early Christians believed.
>>221667984I'm not seeing how that contradicts anything I said, but I also have never heard of "Docetism".
>>221668632I'm just saying there are reasons beyond what Christians parrot about it being a condensed version because their vicar told them so. Look Docetism up, along with Marcionism, Early Christian heresies are fascinating.
>>221657614He was from Łódź, it says so in the Bilbe
Jesus was God's son from heaven, so he was not from earth.
>>221657614hes serbian obviously, this would perfectly explain why the sometimes world feels like it was made by a retard
