Novgorod... the ancient heart of Russia
this pic is making me want to play modded warband again
>>221682721The church roof look like titties haha
>>221682751LOL
>>221682771they prefer 'haha' on next iteration
I like northwest but the region is too poor and overlooked by the govrenmentI'd say it's more depressive than anything east of Urals
>>221683667russia and kiev russia have same starter
>>221683720>overlooked by the governmentHow? There's literally st petersburg there, or maybe we're talking about murmansk region?
>>221683858i assume one city that lives off of the rest of the region, like moscow, paris or london
>>221683858>There's literally st petersburg thereThat's the exact reasonAll of the companies of any significance have offices there, all manufacturing of goods not for immediately for local consumption is there, all education is there, all modern services are thereIt's similar to southern Italy I guess - only old and uneducated inert people remain while the whole region is dying out
>>221683948mussolini even dont read hitchhiker guide galaxy
>>221682721Russia is so sovlful holy fuck. I've been meaning to visit for ages, thanks for reminding me to get a plan ready.
>>221683948The suburbs there are growing though, mostly soviet settlements are dying while naturally beautiful places and shorelines get occupied
>>221682721i wish novgorod have won instead of muscovy
>>221684604>oligarchic russian 500 years earlypass
>>221684484Yeah I want to learn russian since forever, sadly it's still zigger central and except old books and poetry (that filter even native russians), we're probably overrating that cunt
Is the Golden Ring worth it?
>>221684604>muh haphazard oligarchy is so heckin cute and valid and totally better than a centralized state which was no different than any other european ones
Russia should be a proper European countryDitch this asiatic larping, stop bullying their tiny neighbours for no reason, and just join the EU
>>221684765>Our descision making dudes and dudettes are purely reactionary:)))))))))))))):))))))))))))))))))))))
>ancient russia :))))))))))))):))))))))))))))))))))
>>221684647this. it's the only way for europe to become a real superpower. imagine the vastness of russia being opened up for european investment and civilisation, imagine new settlements in the wild plains and forests of russia. wypipo united at last.... but that was not to be and i blame both russians and the europeans. i wonder how vlose we were to integrating russia into europe after the fall of the ussr?
>>221684931>i wonder how vlose we were to integrating russia into europe after the fall of the ussr?Literally in the video in >>221684765 starting at 8:48
>>221684765russia is just too poor for eu
>>221684647>asiatic larpingnot a thing and never wasonly exitsts in your mind because of propaganada going back centuries
>>221685225Bulgaria and Romania were both poorer when they joined
>>221685025what video? post was deleted
>>221684640>old books and poetryImo that's a compelling reason in itself. Also all of that stuff is in public domain too. I decided to keep studying it myself again but it's been rough, they say your third language is the hardest and I may have bit more than I can chew. Or maybe I'm just lazy.
>>221683720It's a shame because Novgorod is the definition of SOVL
>>221685253well its just bulgaria and romaniaimagine changing whole fucking russia to european standards
>>221686316please believe in democratic church of america thanks
Novgorod were Finno-Baltic, Rurik were FInnic and Western side of Urals is Finnish homeland.Slavs, commies and muscovites can go back to black sea delta eat water plant roots what i care maybe east (this time china) will put them in new order
>>221687806>Novgorod were Finno-Baltic, Rurik were FInnic and Western side of Urals is Finnish homeland.That's why everyone in Novgorod was using Slavic lang? kek
>>221684604Novgorod never competed with Moscow for collecting Russian lands, Novgorod was a trade republic, it had no interest in land expansion. Lithuania should've won.
>>221688647>it had no interest in land expansionIt was interested in resources. Fur to be exact. Its lands expanded through the north to the Arctic ocean and to the western side of Urals.But yeah, they would still never expand like it happened within the current timeline.
>>2216878862026?Haha, your so funny ruski.Even modern russia is explained to be born including Finns.Novgorod would been more Finno-Ugric than modern balts which are about 55-80% Finnic.
>>221688946>2026?Nigga. Read something about history. And there are tons of birch bark scriptings from Novgorod dating back to 11th century. All in Slavic lang.You're such a retard. >Novgorod would been more Finno-Ugric than modern balts which are about 55-80% Finnic.Many of the Northern Russians are still like that genetically. At least halfish Finnic. Does it change the language and the culture? No.
>>221689047Nigga acts like language is the biggest and most meaningful thing meanwhile are is filled with Finno-Ugric Fatherline Indo-Aryan Motherline.Ok...And what comes to the culture Bear worshipping many other cool North-West Russian Traditions are actually Finno-Ugric Origin.You can keep slavic gaysex in black river sea delta and being roadside whores for eastern stepp in steppe highway.>geneticallyThats all im after.
>>221689303>And what comes to the culture Bear worshipping many other cool North-West Russian Traditions are actually Finno-Ugric Origin.No. Also it's not North-West thing.
>>221682721imagine a timeline where the noble Novogrodians (Actual Ruthenians) and their blessed Repvblika weren't conquered and defiled by murderous muscovorcs (unholy mutts, devious and despotic)the good guys lost and they're gone forever
>>221689531What do you think about Rus' chronicles?You should read some history
>>221689612What "Finnic culture" in there?
>>221682721Occupied by M*scovites
>>221689598>Novogrodians (Actual Ruthenians)They weren't Ruthenians. Ruthenians developed western East-Slavic dialect. While Novgorod, Russian North and centre were eastern East-Slavic dialect group.
>>221688647>it had no interest in land expansionexactlythat's how you never they were the good guys>>221684643muskrat propaganda
>>221689668>that's how you never they were the good guys*that's how you know they were the good guys
>>221689668Who are "you" you Slavx moron?
>>221682721That's not Kyiv.
