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>What language(s) are you learning?
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Do not reply to the Jordanian!!
>Make frens!

Read the wiki:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

**Comprehensible Input Wiki**
https://comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw
>Books on linguistics and language courses:
https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ
>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua
>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
https://rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold
>Non-English piracy sites
https://fmhy.net/non-english

FAQ U:
>How do I learn a language? What is the best way to learn one?
Input while drunk
>Should I learn lang Y so I can learn lang X?
jes, lernu esperanton
>What is the most useful language?
esperanton
>What language should I learn?
Mongolian Sign Language

Old thread >>224181497
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We got rid of the faq years ago stop trying to bring it back
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we enjoy the faq and it adds much needed levity and effort to this general of SLACKERS and LOAFERS
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Honestly every time I do flashcards I feel like I am wasting time for not instead be practicing more reading.
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>>224297754
Spend 3-4x the time inputting than you do on cards and if that comes out to an insane amount of time then slow down the amount of new cards per day.
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CHALLENGE I'm innawoods edisi
>Mudah
This is a forest.
Dear god!
There's more (forest).
No...
We are lost.
Why are there so many trees?
I enjoy hiking more than swimming.
I like to watch movies about it.
>中级
When I go on a walk, I always wear my running shoes.
We should be back by noon tomorrow at the latest.
I wish we had more time, the view is so pretty here.
Excuse me, do you have any sunblock?
>𒅗𒂍𒌈
A forest is an ecosystem characterized by a dense community of trees.
There are more than 800 definitions of the word "forest" used around the world.
The number of trees in the world, according to a 2015 estimate, is 3 trillion.
The spiritual quality and enthusiasm toward nature expressed in his writings inspired others, including presidents and congressmen, to take action to help preserve large areas of undeveloped countryside.
>奖励任务
When were you last /out/side, and what can you tell us about it? In your TL.
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>>224299488
بۇ ئورمان
يا ئاللاھ!
يەنە بار
ياق...
بۇ يەردە نېمىشقا بەك كۆپ دەرەخ بار؟
مەن سۇ ئۈزۈشتىن پىيادە مېڭىشكە ئامراق
پىيادە مېڭىش ھەققىدە كىنو كۆرۈشنى ياخشى كۆرىمەن

我出门散步时总也穿上运动鞋。
我们最晚应该是明儿个下午回来。
可惜没时间,这儿风景好好看。
不好意思有防晒吗。

森林则以密度高的树木群为准的生态系统。
“森林”单词全球上有八百多种定义。
他作文抒发的精神本质及对于自然的热情启发他人甚至总统及国家会议员,着手开始保护野外未开发区域。

俺今儿个上镇子买菜路上倾盆大雨没带伞差点淋透了
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>>224299488
Ceci est une forêt.
Mon Dieu!
Il y a de plus.
Non...
Nous nous sommes perdu.
Pourquoi y a-t-il tant d'arbres?
Randonner m'amuse plus que nager.
Il me plaît en regarder des films.
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>>224300170
>俺今儿个上镇子买菜路上倾盆大雨没带伞差点淋透了
DENGAR SINI SAYE BERPANTUN
YAH
PEGI KEDAI TANPA PAYUNG
HUJAN GEDE LAGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5N9PqBjuR0
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Seems like the universe or God or someone really does not want me to learn Thai, because every time I start doing it something suddenly goes wrong in my life or my audio equipment starts mysteriously acting up. Too bad, I liked watching Comprehensible Thai.
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>>224296087
Anyone got the refold spanish harry potter decks?

https://refold.la/decks/hp

I'm poor & they're pricy.
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>>224300598
Bumping but for German, Italian or French.
There used to be cool community decks in various languages, including English, focusing on difficult and unusual words from the book series, but unfortunately they disappeared from the internet and I didn't saved them
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>>224300598
Just download the books as pdf or some shit and use chatgpt to write a python script that takes all the words and stores it in a CSV then add whatever else you want on excel or libre Office or whatever the fuck and then add that shit to Anki

It's not hard
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>>224301125
unless you have a powerful pc, normal spaCy models are dogshit at parsing. then you'd have to trust the free versions of LLMs arent hallucinating meanings. these decks are at least curated.

how would someone learning a language know whats a legit word or how to use it. this is why shit like sentence mining is rdoesnt make sense for new users. even if it only took a few minutes per card, thats over 200 hours just to probably be wrong at creating 5k+ cards. thats why people try to get premade decks.
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>>224299488
Šis yra mišką
Brangūs dievą!
Ten daug!
Ne...
Mes esame Trūk.
Kodėl yra per daug medis.
Mano patinka pasivaikščioti daug už plaukimo
Man patinka žiūrėti filmą apie tai.

DID WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE DICTIONARY. FUCK YEAH
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>>224301952
LET'S GOOOO
also
>žiūrėti
balto-slavic is real....
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>>224299488
>𒅗𒂍𒌈
密集な木立の生態系は森の特殊だ
世界中に森という言葉には八百の意義以上がある
ある2015年の概算によって世界中に木々の合計は三兆だ
彼の書物で自然に向けられてる霊的な素質と熱心は大統領さんたちも議員さんたちもに含まれた人達が広大な未開発田舎の助けのために鼓舞にされた
>奖励任务
チェーンソーで小道に生えられた苗木から開拓しながら雨がポチポチに追々なてきた。雨具を被ったが雨は酷く激しい豪雨になったし自動車に走って帰宅した。だけど明日の天気が良ければ俺が仕事を終えるかもしれないな
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I'm playing Resident Evil 4 VR in Spanish for ultimate immersion (the game takes place in Spain).
It doesn't have a Spanish dub, but that means the dialogue between Leon and his American colleagues is still in English, but the villagers shout at you in Spanish and the notes etc. you find lying around are Spanish as well, so this works pretty nicely.

I wish games that take place across cultural boundaries would generally let you select multiple languages to keep things as authentic as possible, instead of having everything in a single language.
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>>224299488
I suck at this but here goes.
Boт лec
Бoжe мoe!
Taм мнoгo
Heт
Mы o algo
Пoчeмy тaм тaк мнoгo лec
O algo the rest
I know there is a word for trees but I forgot it. That's like my second attempt at writing in russian.

I've been slacking it but it's just feels grating against me whenever I try to learn it. I feels like climbing a never ending wall and I've slacked for a few days and probably forgotten a lot. I'll probably just try and study more and focusing on translating books to keep my interest going. If I ankigoon or read more textbooks, I will cry.

Good luck toal anyone else feeling slugglish or lacking enthusaism for their target language. I'm sure we're just going through a rough patch and we'll all be speaking another language other than english soon enough.
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>>224299488
Das ist ein Wald.
Oh Mein Gott!
Da ist noch mehr (I'm never sure how to use noch)
Nein...
Wir sind veeloren
Warum gibt es hier so viel Baeume?
???
Ich schaue gerne Filme darueber.
>>224304047
Gonna play Gothic again
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>>224305515
*verloren
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>>224304047
Whoah! Is that on Nintendo DS?
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>>224296087
best free way to learn a language?
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>>224307073
Torrent sites
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>>224307073
Route 66.
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>>224307073
FSI Courses, Anki, & Youtube
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>>224307073
ANKI + mass input (books from zlibrary or YouTube using language reactor)
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>>224307073
https://www.brezhoweb.bzh/Naruto_393.html
watch naruto in breton
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>>224307454
Zlibrary seems to be the most laggy website I've ever used. Can't download without an account and doesn't work. Is the website just always that bad?
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>>224307936
I've realized I've gave my email to a scam website because I am retarded. I should be fine though probably.
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>>224307710
Kino.
Has Breton sounded so "French" for a long time, or is it because most people who create content in Breton are not native speakers but French BSLs?
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>>224306923
Meta Quest (Nintendo DS does not have VR games, unless you count the shitty "3D" games that just give me headaches)

>>224307073
I learned English for free by pirating American video games and TV shows
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>>224308175
Bit of both. Welsh is much better in this regard, but there’s still a common misconception that Welsh doesn’t have its own native accent, and this extends to all the celtic languages, since so few are native speakers and many are influenced by the dominant national tongue.
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>>224308219
It's kind of sad. Although you can hear Celtic accents in English too, so it works both ways there (Scottish accents, Irish accents etc.)
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>>224306923
>>224308208
just to be clear, that screenshot is just a menu screen.
The game itself is about shooting things.

If you were hoping for something text-heavy based on a Japanese horror franchise, there's the Silent Hill VN on GBA: https://vndb.org/v3964
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>>224296087
can we talk about the /x/ side of learning languages?
like subliminals loa etc
theres something bizarre ab learning languages it feels like u r downloading the lenguage and u go from hearing incoherent babble to understandig everything, it is actually not linear, it is something more like a jump or a off on switch u either know it or not theres no learning nor progression
i rember a guy on /x/ talking how he had an encounter with an entity or something that granted him instant spanish and he indeed knew spanis btw it may still be on the archives that story
also how abt the ppl that get possed and start talking in lating or dead tongues etc? it has been actual documented cases so it is not a rumor or fantasy anymore
and how abt the ppl that get hit in the head and become geniouses in math? there may be cases where they adquire a new language too
it is an interesting topic i think
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>>224309087
if getting possessed meant getting demon-level latin skills i'd of bought a luigi board yesterday
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>>224309146
well dyor and youll see theres lots of cases abt it but its not u the ppl possesed dont remember it
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>>224296087
sexo
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>>224308259
The lowland accents in Scotland are all people who have been speaking an English language for over 1000 years anon.

>>224309146
Demons don’t actually have good Latin in pop culture. One of the famous chants satanists will use is actually a prayer to God lol.
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>>224309087
>how abt the ppl that get possed and start talking in lating or dead tongues etc
I think most of those stories are BS, and even the ones that are real are probably just due to people passively absorbing a language without realizing it.
I learned English by consuming media and didn't know about my newly acquired fluency until I was asked a question in English class.

Much more interesting is the question why we can read.
Like, how come our brains can string together written symbols and make sense of them as if we were made to do this?
It's such as complex task that did not occur at all in our environment until just a few thousand years ago, yet here we are, fluently reading entire texts more quickly than we would be able to speak them, and using the same symbols to program computers.

I'm basically an agnostic, but this is one of those things that make theism and creationism more plausible to me.
Jewish mysticism holds that the Torah is the literal blueprint of Creation. Every letter in it is like an instruction in a computer program, the world can only exist for as long as someone in it is reading and interpreting the Torah.
If writing is the divine tool of creation, it makes sense that those created in the image of God would be endowed with the gift of being able to read and write.
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>>224299488
>その二
散歩に行くならいつもランニングシューズを着るよ
遅くとも明日の昼前に帰るはずはある
もっと時間がありたい、ここの景色はすっごく綺麗
すいません、いくらかの日焼け止めのクリームを持ってます?
>その三
森は濃い木の集めで特徴的な生態系
「森」という言葉が世界中に八百個以上の定義を持っておる事がある
世界にある木の数は、2015年の概算によれば、三兆本である。
彼の作品における自然へ精神的質及び熱中は、他人、大統領と連邦議会議員を含めて、が未発達の田舎の大部分を保存の行動を始めることが起こさせた。

>>224305308
>Бoжe мoe!
мoй is the correct form here
>Taм мнoгo
тaм (ecть) бoльшe, "мнoгo" means many, a lot
>Mы o algo
мы зaблyдилиcь
>Пoчeмy тaм тaк мнoгo лec
лeca instead of лec (but it still means "forest"), the word for 'tree' is "дepeвo" with irregular plural forms
so it should be something like "Пoчeмy тaм тaк мнoгo дepeвья"

>>224309627
>Much more interesting is the question why we can read.
the human brain is capable of abstract thought, pattern recognition and linguistic processes beyond any other life-form on the planet, bounds ahead of even the smartest birds that can have hundreds of unique calls including even names for other birds (and other beings)
combined with adaptability, it isn't that surprising that we could figure out a way to tie language to abstract signs, especially since reading and writing is initially taught at around 7 years old when plasticity is still very high. writing mostly came about accidentally from logographic drawings becoming more abstract over time but we've had ways of recording information like plant, animal fertility cycles for over ten thousands of years as is attested by cave paintings that have complex numeral systems assumed to be tied to the illustrations of plants and animals that they accompany
i'm not 100% caught up on the invention of writing but it probably took so long because humanity spent 99% of its existence leading a nomadic hunter-gatherer lifestyle and inventions like writing only became necessary once long term settlements needed to record information for accounting purposes, which would also be around the time that mass agricultural methods began appearing
most of the oldest extant texts being just lists of items has a reason
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>>224309087
It's all crap
Even language learning is crap
All discussion about it is conjecture at best
You just do the hours for years or accept the sunk cost, you never find anything that suddenly will make up the difference exponentially
Moving to the TL country and cohabitation with TL speakers is basically the only practically more efficient "method" of getting those hours down faster
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>>224309627
>Much more interesting is the question why we can read. Like, how come our brains can string together written symbols and make sense of them as if we were made to do this?

We're able to do all sorts of complex tasks that did not exist until very recently and have no evolutionary precedent. Our brains run more on generalized adaptive processes than on simple cue-reaction loops.

This is also why questions like 'why do humans commit suicide - whats the evolutionary benefit of that?' are stupid since most of our selective pressure is at the broad trait level rather than over very specific pre-programmed behaviors.
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>>224307073
public library
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>>224300598
Just buy the bundle, download the decks, and then request a refund. Jordie has done this kind of thing a million times with paid courses.

>>224307073
Be younger than 25, the younger the better, then just inpootmaxx.

>>224309087
I get weird psychosomatic symptoms after I start learning a new language. Usually after a couple months, after the first real acquisition gains, and then it goes away magically. It's as if your brain tries to make room for the language in your head, it starts defragmenting and moving things around and that causes side-effects. I tell myself I'm imagining it but it's very spooky. Knowledge is never free, it seems.



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