you forgot
I'm so sorry...
I forgor
youtube.com/watch?v=dyIQHDpJ0R8
I rember
>>49818763Don't forgetI'm with you in the dark
Never!
Have you ever thought about a world where everything is exactly the same...Except you don't exist?Everything functions perfectly without you...Ha, ha... The thought terrifies me.
>>49818763why didn't ZUN just....bring her back as a new character?
>>49833779Please, I eat thoughts like that for fun. Thats a comfort, id love to be able to fade without a worry. This is why you're forgotten, cause you're a NERD MIKO
Mad Alice my beloved
>>49833779That's fine if it's me, but not when a cute 2D girl has to experience this!
youtube.com/watch?v=4hT5tY2_ag0
>>49834724He became a fagggot.
>>49834724Op isn't even her real design, so zun would have to think of an original one for her.
>>49846793he likely already had one in mind
>>49818763I did...I'll never forget you again my dear 8D E1 8C 8E 20 97 D9
>>49846793>>49846805He did have a design for her https://twitter.com/AQNAWNA/status/1629490823565025288
I'm going to end up with 8 fumos of her and I'm starting to question my life choices
Why didn't ZUN just put her in PCB...
>>49847006WHERE'S THE イラスト… DAMN ZUN NEEDS BEER DEPRIVATION...!!!
>>49846793
https://youtu.be/k_jpP4m8baQ
Aborted 2hu gf
>>49902653why would an umbrella that feeds off surprising people need to shit or piss
I kinda like her design
>>49930121look at her go!!
Your new protagonists
I would never forget 39935965512374233-chan
>>49953511So Rin exists and no one is canon looks or acts like her?
>>49953511How old is that quote?
>>49953606from the latest time he spokeit seems like the t*itter autotranslation is scuffed though, apparently picrel is more proper>>49953591that's what that translation would imply, this one is more like her not existing at all
>>49953642>this one is more like her not existing at allYET ;_;
>>49953642This fucking sucks
>>49953690yeah what a cop out answer, i hope its just shit translation
I tried to translate it.Kanamai:There are two protagonists, but wasn't actually *another* one, or...ZUN: There wasn't. no.Kanamai: Hear that everyone? There wasn't.ZUN: There wasn't.Kanamai: I read somewhere that you ran out of time and got rid of one of the protagonists or something.ZUN: Well, there was no way I could have managed three. Like you say, I had a tight schedule.Kanamai: So, as for the third protagonist, considering how you must have developed her, is there any chance of her appearing one day, or did you perhaps reuse part of her in another character?ZUN: Nope. No, no. (laughs)Beat Mario: Saezuki Rin, was it?Kanamai: Erm, Satsuki Rin.Beat Mario: Satsuki? Is that right? (to ZUN)ZUN: (Swigs beer) Listen...Beat Mario: Try to remember.ZUN: For a start, when something's scrapped, it means it doesn't exist. So it's not a case of 'it was actually like this, or that'.Kanamai: So it would be meaningless to talk about it.ZUN: Meaningless.Beat Mario: But as far as some fans are concerned, the idea that there was actually 'a character who was supposed to be in the game'...ZUN: They *weren't* meant to be in the game. If they're not in the game, they're not in the game. (laughs) Know what I mean?Beat Mario: But it's like an imaginary version of her is loved by everyone.ZUN: And I can't use things like that, right? (laughs) If I don't treat things like this as not existing, I can't use them. I can't be like 'here's a scrapped character I've brought back', can I?Kanamai: But in that case, does that mean she's gone to Gensokyo? ZUN: ...Kanamai: Seems like a no. (laughs)Beat Mario: That's complicated. Gensokyo'd... real life... I wonder?Kanamai: How about it, ZUN?ZUN: (Swigs beer) If you're forgotten even in Gensokyo then... (all laugh) Kanamai: Where do you go?ZUN: You wouldn't go anywhere.Kanamai: Would you cease to exist?ZUN: You'd cease to exist.
>>49954033
>>49954033>ZUN: (Swigs beer) Listen...The contempt of a man who just released a new game but is still forced to talk about the one he shat out more than twenty years ago...
>>49954033>ZUN: (Swigs beer) If you're forgotten even in Gensokyo then... (all laugh)>Kanamai: Where do you go?>ZUN: You wouldn't go anywhere.>Kanamai: Would you cease to exist?>ZUN: You'd cease to exist....
>>49954033>I can't be like 'here's a scrapped character I've brought back', can I?But devs do that all the time?
>>49954033we need to kill ZUN
>>49954243That's what youma books are for.
There was once a precious little girl
What does a character do when its creator hates it?
>>49956712Drain power from her fans until their bones turn to dust. At least, that's what Mima does.
ZUN is a nigger
>>49960608Thank you Kirin-san, very nice
>>49818763I forgor
I wonder how long this thread will go on for
>>49966110She almost looks like the opposite of Reimu here.
>>49833779I'm already living that. It's a nothing burger. Would increase the intensity to get Rin back into canon.
>>49953511>>49953642>>49954033What's the exact source, timestamp? I'm a soft interrogation enthusiast, and it creeps the fuck out of me how ZUN is suddenly seemingly exhibiting signatures of being evasive/hiding/lying about something. I'd like to properly verify whether I'm just misinterpreting and overblowing it.
>>49999579>it creeps the fuck out of me how ZUN is suddenly seemingly exhibiting signatures of being evasive/hiding/lying about somethinghe's the same about Marisa and Mima's relationship, seems to me that he was either in a bad mood or in his mind Rin doesn't matter because she was just that, a scrapped concept that didn't make it in similar to Myouren being the final boss of UFO
>>49833779Anon, I've been trying to achieve that for my entire life but the steps to would be worse if it doesn't end on its own. Its my fantasy to be able to walk away from my life with no one noticing.
>>49999632Yeah, but, among other things, what is it TO HIM when a character doesn't make it in?
>>49999729Seems like it depends on the character and how much he gives shit about it, it has been painfully clear over the years not all girls are made the same and he has clear bias towards certain characters
>>49999632>>49999579This >>49954066Probably internally wondering why people are orbiting some character that never even existed. He was already shocked people care about nameless midbosses. A guy wishing he could spew danmaku at them all while calling them faggots but they're his income so he has to play along and pretend he even remembers this name that was probably a note he jotted down and forgot to erase before compiling that someone datamined out later.
Test
ZUN it's a hack
Rin tomorrow
>>49988831Satsuki Rin? Satsuki Cirn...
>>49988831I mean, there's not much to talk about, although that's arguably true of most 2hus.
>>49999579>>49999632I don't think this is the first time he's been asked about it either, so I'm sure he's getting a little annoyed with questions about characters he didn't even think were worth adding to his games (especially when he probably wanted to talk about his new game).There's something really telling actually in the recent fortune book, where he specifically refers to Yuuka as a "guest character from a prior series", a really damning sentiment for people that were still holding on to the hope that PC98 was canon in a meaningful capacity. Obviously it's canon enough that ZUN will grab from it when he really feels like it, but things like Mima have essentially been stricken from canon entirely and Rin is even worse since she was never even arguably canon to begin with.>>49999782Anon he's made over 100 girls, plenty of them are going to fall through the cracks if he wants to expand on literally anyone.
>>50029233>where he specifically refers to Yuuka as a "guest character from a prior series"I wonder why he didn't refer to Alice that way.
>>50029393Alice was pretty dramatically redesigned and reimagined for Windows era Touhou. The only things PC98 and Windows Alice seem to share are a name, the doll thing, and that grimoire. Pretty much everything regarding Alice's connection to Makai has been completely abandoned, and her status as a human turned magician creates a massive plot hole that you need to work around if you take PC98 as canon.Yuuka, while seemingly missing her dream world mansion, is fundamentally the same character she was in PC98, just with a skirt instead of pants. We aren't really told anything that contradicts her PC98 lore, she's still an immensely powerful and ancient youkai.
>>50029233Genjii out of all PC98 characters was referenced in UDoALG, it's not that PC98 isn't canon its just that ZUN doesn't feel like revisiting it and would rather keep building on windows rather than reusing/revamping old characters like he did with Alice(to a degree)Yuuka's Who's who comment spells this out>I wonder if I could've gotten away with bringing back more older characters at the time, too... although they wouldn't mesh that well with the current setting. I'd say those old characters have probably retired by now, and are warmly watching over things from various places nowadays.>>50029393For Alice in Who's who he said he brought her back as a curve ball to the story because of the demo format baiting people into thinking PCB's full game would have something to do with PC98He also said he brought her back so she could partner with Marisa in IN in IN's demo afterword
Forgot my circle cut girls
>>50031528She exists, ZUN didn't say SHE was not canon.
>>50031528What's circle cut's name, since we know it's not Rin?
>>50031630She'd be called EoSDCircleCut girl if we followed DiPP's girls naming conventionsShe's just a poster girl
>>50031517Mima will come back with a retirement home incident!
>>50031517I didn't bother reading the whole UDoALG script because it sucked, where did this happen?
>>49999666holy digits
>>50032592Here
>>50031517I would rather have PC-98 characters than the dumb bitches that keep originating from the printworks, and I'm not even that fond of the PC-98 games/characters.
>>49818763I rembered.
>>50040475That really falls more under the umbrella of meta joke.
>>50040529Toyohime was way more likeable in the new game as a boss than she ever was in those boring printworks so I didn't really mind her in the new game.If anything it's a good sign ZUN is willing to use older characters like her with better designs than what he craps out nowadays may I add for the games coming forward, it would have been really easy for him to shit out another Sagume for FW's plot but he choose to give an important role to the lesser used Watatsuki
>>50047429>Toyohime was way more likeable in the new game as a boss than she ever was in those boring printworksAgreed, but I still wouldn't call her likeable.
What's her theme song?
>>50059958youtube.com/watch?v=UqVGHOrhsmwThis is my favorite out of all the ones made.
>>50059958There's a few fan themes out therehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_jpP4m8baQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOeabaMREAwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VAv1EaJkfkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdEPR2CvTMU>>50059975I like this arrange a little bit betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwIVddJcXM0
>>50047429Toyohime comes out, pretends to be sad about a woman she tortured, and then the fanbase sucks her futa dick for it.
>>50063097I like that one as well. The guy that made the original has an earlier version of it too.youtube.com/watch?v=pFYx0mElPsc
>>50053951I guess the proper word would be "engaging", way more interesting than being a walking plot device to humiliate Yukari so Yukari's epic 5D chess move in the end comes out as not-retarded>>50063111Toyohime wasn't the one that brainwashed Yuiman midwit
>>50063722>Toyohime wasn't the one that brainwashed Yuiman midwitShe was complicit, which makes her just as guilty.
>>50071090Ded like them
miscellaneous girls should stick together
>>50087962thank you i was getting worried
