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>>49583634

New leader, new members edition

This thread is for all current and former idols of Up-Front & Hello!Project

>Masterlist:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M45w8Glu1JRwt34Yg324m2tOGK8SxBcTwnQ3NWIJiQM

>Agency Links:
http://www.helloproject.com/
http://www.up-front-promotion.co.jp/
http://www.up-front-create.com/
http://www.up-front-kansai.com/
http://ww.jp-r.co.jp/
http://yum-e.jp/
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Fukumura upcoming pb. Nearly got washed away in Vietnam typhoon but returned to finish shoot. Last book before she hits 30.
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Sekushi beamu!
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>>49883503
How many white boyfriends did she get with?

What is she doing these days? Is she still doing the YouTube thing with those other guys? Her going to NZ really seemed to have killed her career. I like Makoto but she doesnt seem to have much going on. I have always thought that is she never joined Morning Musume not much would have changed or been that different.
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>>49882989
She should have 3 kids already.
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>>49882989
Also if that isn't photoshop, her body is in great shape. Probably because she hasn't had kids.
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Her face looks terrible, looks like she paid dr Kim a visit, she had a glorious well shaped jawline in the golden days.
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>>49885761
Also the mole on her right side of face turn into a sunspot. Doesn't look good. She should have that removed.

I've noticed she's been trying to hide it with hair but it still shows up in video. She doesnt have the money that maki has to do cosmetic procedures and afford the good Korean doctors though.
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>>49883503
She looked so cute in that top pic. Reminded me of my japanese gf when she was younger.
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>>49883827
i can fix her
>>49885844
that chin could split logs. definitely cute back in the day
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>>49885928
She lost her baby fat. She could have kept it. I've noticed a ton of the ex members go through this period in their 20s where they lose ALL their baby fat and get super skinny. Later on they gain a little weight back but they are never the same. Hitomi is a good example. She was super cute with her baby face in the golden era. Then she gain a little too much weight in 2002. Then she went top hard on losing weight and she turned nearly anorexic. She never looked as good as she did when she had the baby fat. Maki also looked better when her legs had more meat on them. Then she turned into a skeleton. She never gained back her full weight. But with moderate weight gain because of her age ahe looks better now than she did a few years ago.

buccal fat removal should be a crime against humanity.

To mizuki fukumuras credit at least she didnt going through a time where she lost all her baby fat. She still looks good.
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umm so God damn sexy...
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Chad Anmi with the glorious manspread pushing the virgin Marine to the edge.
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>>49886460
also beauty leader admiring the work of her kouhai
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>>49886460
Are you saying that Anmi isn't a virgin?
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goodness no! i'm sure she's as pure as any h!p idol!
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>>49888342
>japanese girls pure
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VySTNsRBt4o

Home invasion to tell Momoha she's in Angerme. Announcement to the rest of the membas.
Hello!Con 2025 live with everyone
Ocha Norma behind the scenes making mv
SNS stuff
Rosy Chronicle live
H!P new member auditions! Shoot your shot, anon!
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Rate em
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>>49892417
>Fujimoto (6)
>Ishikawa (9)
69
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>>49892417
I'll take Asami and Ayumi
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>>49894634
>not miki and rika
Pleb
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Ocho Norma making Roko-chan relapse into rhythm dress-up gacha.
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Fukumura and Akari live
M Hello collaboration: Manaka and Utano perform I Want to Open a Shop with Him.
Melon Kinenbi ~Ripe Melon~ stuff
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>>49900069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFl6N9vBb8g

彼と一緒にお店がしたい! better version
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Whoa. Runo's waist is as small as Mihane's.
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>>49904361
>Children Who Don't Know War
>age average: 20.7
sasuga UPF
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Wow wow wow seishun
Iroiro aru sa
Ni, sannin atsumattara
Kashimashi kashimashi
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33 years young!
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cute group
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After melon she tried opening a nail salon then went bankrupt during covid.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NwFpy0_yHow&t=13s&pp=2AENkAIB0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD
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>>49919082
ogata back to anorexia?
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>>49919782
Does seem that way.
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Momohime on hiatus for anxiety issues
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>>49921983
https://helloproject.com/news/19350/
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https://mdpr.jp/music/detail/4627350
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBBcCd5yElw

Nishimura announced during radio show instead of traveling to her house (h!p budget savings: ¥13500)
Tsubaki Factory prepare to welcome Nishimura by decorating the room and making signs (h!p budget savings: ¥5000)
Ocha Norma live and behind the scenes recording studio
Angerme live
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https://helloproject.com/news/19377/

Riley releasing a photo book! ... of architecture. She fancies herself a design snob. She'll never do grav.
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any fresh qts?
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Lida
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>>49929986
cute, fresh ramune
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>>49931443
Can get drunk just from kissing her
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More live from the 3 Berryz Kobo
Akari like pro wrestling. Heem next?
Bitchin about the heat
For Hello!Con, Shiori was put in a "selfish request" unit (by herself?) and she requested Resonant Blue as the song and the entirety of MoMusu as her backup. Based.
Karin performing Beast live
M-Hello Kitchen. For a split second I thought Akari was doing nude apron. Egg on salad.
Akari and Shiori having an anime summer.
Maachan senpai and her kenshusei say Ember tour was fun.
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>>49931825
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ynFv5crzAcc
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>>49931443
She actually looks like a real person unlike these ai app filtered new gens.
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>>49933409
Interesting
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>>49934442
https://youtube.com/shorts/TOqVWVX2SkI?si=W4gtCcu6yjAhvtMX

You can tell exactly when she had the double eyelid surgery. Not long after she graduated in late 2002 or early 2003. She was cute with her old eyes. At one time Maki actually used to look Japanese.
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>>49935383
>(x) Doubt
First of all, >>49933409 is AI slop.
Also, Maki probably just lost baby fat. Otherwise that means tons of girls had the surgery.
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>>49935755
Its well known that maki went under the knife a few times over the years. She had to have emergency plastic surgery after she face planted when filmimg Pinch Runner. It broke her nose and she lost teeth. That's why Maki has a bent nose during most of her time in Morning Musume. Shes had several surgeries trying to correct the damage. She also fixed her teeth after she graduated.

She said on her youtube this fall fucked up her face and she decided to quite right then. She wanted to talk to her mother while she was in the hospital but her based manager ignored her and knew the quiting talk was just her being emotional.

https://youtu.be/INwoe8Ou4vM?si=vtzvvl07clpu10Ow&t=2138

And they kept the scene in the movie. Kek
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>仁愛ちゃんの衣装が
>2年前と同じハロプロ研修生衣装なの、気がつきましたか????????
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>>49936439
oh, i get it. the glasses have magical properties that make her taller and that's why she never takes them off.
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I want Risa handshake
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>>49941159
I wish konkon was real
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>>49935965
Imagine how envy the girls were of her in her debut
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>>49944761
I'm sure a lot of them relished when they heard she fucked up her face in the fall since they were all technically rivals and up to that point she was the golden girl.

Schadenfreude.

Unfortunately for her rivals Maki become even more popular in the following months and years even with the broken nose. It was her natural charisma that made her popular too, not just her unique face.
She was always a bit of a loner according to her so she was never really that close to the other members especially the older members.
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Her nose before the fall.
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>>49945162
Her nose after the fall.
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>>49945169
Her nose after more recent reconstruction surgery. Trying to restore to her orignal shape. Not exactly the same though.
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>>49945153
I don't know much about MM senbatsu, but I remember in akb and nogizaka being the most important thing for the girl's careers. But MM was really small in numbers compared to those. I don't know if every golden age girl already centered. I remember Tsunku saying that Kasumi was the most popular of all time.
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>>49945534
I don't know if I believe that Koharu was the most popular ever. She certainly had her 15min though. In all recent heisai era idol reviews ive seen, koharu doesnt even clock in the top 20. Maki is usually voted as one of the most popular idols of the heisei.

https://daydaynews.cc/en/hotcomm/1796965.html

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z_YtwpsL1gA
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>>49945765
Tsuji was also far more popular than Koharu. Kago would have been very popular too if she didnt blow it multiple times with her stupid bad decisions. She was on track to be the next Reiko Hirosu, but her doing dumb stuff repeatedly over the years to ruined her name.

Tsuji is the most successful ex morning musume member ever. Look at her youtube video views and sns.
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>>49945765
FFX Yuna hairstyle
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3qWXjM2qkg
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>>49945792
Tsuji and Ai being popular is a surprise for me, but what about other members like Mari ( she looked quite popular) meanwhile girls like Kamei and Makoto looked very unpopular to me. Sayumi and Takahashi were popular too I think...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iej_Y7InZGQ&t=593s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtbnP1onaM
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>>49952117
>italian flair
>megane-chan
Luxottica is funding h!p aren't they. Not a bad song tho. Cute twin tails Mifu.
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ffs she cut her hair. that glorious mane complimented her glorious vocals. first marine, now runo. wtf wrong with that gen?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soQ7ikV_xg8

Tsubaki Factory live "Secret Summer"
Maria and Minami MC
Hello!Con selfish request rehearsals for Power Flower and 初恋サイダー. Wait, so the selfish person doesn't even have to perform? They can just be the 'producer' if they want? Sugoi
Kenshusei live
Morning Musume live
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Can't hair flip with no hair. Mattaku!
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>>49954291
When will they fund another alo hello.
Is Hello Project really that broke that they cant do the Hawaii trips anymore
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>>49958852
Its not 2004 anymore sadly
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>>49959245
Does Tsunku still have his house in Hawaii? Maybe they could crash on his couch?
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>>49959245
What does that mean. A beautiful female in a bikini never goes out of style.

Those photobooks have legit beautiful artful photography and all the members were attractive beauty maxxed. If they started doing Alo Hello again, it would be a hit. Why does modern Morning Musume and upfront hate their fans so much.
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>>49959848
It means that MM fucking sucks now, clueless-kun
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Leader summit will fix everything!
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>>49963308
>No yossy
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>>49963308
>also no Gaki
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>>49963605
well, Yossy... we know why. She'd suggest a mini bar in every dressing room. And Gaki cut all ties with ufg and went independent.
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>>49963308
Time is a cruel bitch, also
>no kamei
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>>49963691
Why did she cut all ties? I get that she started her own thing, but why burn thoae bridges. She could causally show up every now and then for the free paycheck. Even Maki shows up to H!P events every now and then. Showing up to a few H!P every now and then couldn't hurt her. It could probably help get a few more views on her own channel. Did she ever say why?
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>>49964797
She is a brat and a punk
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>>49964797
I don't think there's bad blood, she just ended her contract with them in 2020, afaik.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQ0VC-vRr8

Sexy Cat live with Fukumura and Akari.
Fuku and Nanami MC
Ocha Norma's first performance at Budokan is October 15.
Maachan, all tatted up, live from Ember tour.
Food corner. That looks really good.
Fukumura shot a pb in Vietnam. Typhoon made them leave early. Typhoon call you?
J.P Room event for fans. Event DVD planned to be released.
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officially at lewd bikini-clad PB age
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Good Morning Musume sirs
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>>49972469
Nu Morning Musume lacks brown girls like Maki
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>>49972493
What is the meaning of this L?
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>>49972601
She's calling you a loser
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>>49972681
at least my nose is fine
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>>49974272
Kek
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>>49975150
healing
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https://natalie.mu/music/news/639326
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https://helloproject.com/rosychronicle/event/detail/1c692e8c72549eaefcca75fce5f2e2cfa7c6200e

Rosy Chronicle First Live Tour 2025 ~First Page! ~
>There will be a women-only section.
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that makes one of us
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Who is Karin
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I see that Runo can really crank out the vocals. I think this is what Mei-chan is supposedly lauded as doing as well, but she's not quite able and she sounds like just yelling. I think Tsubaki Factory is the talent juggernaut that Angerme was back in ~2014, when Maachan said she wanted to defeat Angerme, and then corrected herself, and said she wanted MM to be the most successful. MM needs a boost of new talent asap.
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>>49987928
What's a Karin?
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Soon™
https://www.helloproject.com/news/19424/
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Angerme live
MC: Yokoyan and Ichika Arisawa
Behind the scenes of selfish request practice. Shiori requests Resonant Blue and MM perform with her, proceeds to get told she's doing it wrong. Miyo Hirai's requests an Ayaya song.
Dambara sings "August Sky" then violently grabs the camera, screaming a vow of a thousand deaths upon white piggu who bombed her homeland. Weird!
SNS check!
Hello!Con 2025 live of "Jankenpyon"
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Interesting that they're still trying this. I still don't see how she can show her face again on stage without a humiliating begging for forgiveness. What a fun idol concert!
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Late night shenanigans
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>>49994406
What happened?
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>>49994206
no swimsuit. no buy.
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A great crossover
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>>49994945
Who's the other woman
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FukuTake live
Ocha Norma is still excited to perform at Budokan
Maachan live from Ember tour
Advice corner: how to style bangs. how to look at cameras during Budokan
An M Hello Event. Akari Uemura is still active.
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Maria-san face lmao
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the beginning of the end
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https://www.jp-r.co.jp/masaki_satou/news/19438/

Maachan's first solo album,『now rise』, is already dropping October 22nd. That's earlier than "end of the year." A few new songs, but mostly the previous singles, cover songs, and one with Reina.
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>>50009433
ye. gaki said it best during yossy's graduation, i feel like the morning musume i loved is now gone. no more monster egos clashing and fighting behind the scenes but delivering great entertainment. no ability to attract said egos and talent. the next maki or rika is instead streaming from their bedroom and a millionaire.
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>>50012825
>i feel like the morning musume i loved is now gone
Bro its 2025 already...
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this is so uncanny but so good at the same time
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>>50014518
bro, niigaki said that in 2007
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>>50014647
I know but they are all hags now, just watch the AI enhanced MVs
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>>50014565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99PgZ0hq5CE

Cute Rika trying to stay in character but failing every time.
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>>50012825
And all the artist and talent left. I mean the staff and Upfront. Gone are the good costume designers, the dance instructors, managers and rebellious skilled creatives to make Morning Musume unique and trend setting. All the good management left and all that's left in the production are play-it-safe corporate types who are too busy counting beans off the next safe gravure book than thinking of fresh ideas.

The members themsevles are uncreative and lack ambition. The corporate atmosphere turned dynamic artists and performers into soulless OLs.

Hes right, all the would be future aces with interesting ahd entertaining personalities are busy making their own content. H!P culture is lame and permanently behind 5 years in everything they do.

The members forgot, or are no longer taught the first rule of show business. Be entertaining.
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>>50015349
Yeah, girls these days are so bad at variety and so fucking spoiled. Compare 2000s and 2010s idols with now idols and get depressed.
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times change. the landscape is vastly different today compared to golden era days. all idol groups from all companies are bland garbage, compared to peak MM. why would you care about variety shows if they're all low-grade shit like this? broadcast television is for boomers. The girls are the last thing to blame. if you let the past be the past and look at the current, as is, you might find entertainment.
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>>50019574
No they just need to start hiring wanna be influencers and cute toktok girls who can sing and dance and are ENTERTAINING to watch or have interesting things to say.
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I come i just noticed Akane Haga but I just read she's going to graduate. Where hell was she these last 10 years?!?

She looks good and I cant believe I never noticed her much.
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>>50019610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HReWNgi6MLU

She was always low key. Even said as much recently. I assumed she was a strong background member and senpai. She pretty much was, but just didn't get or chase much spotlight. Gotta have support members too. She did do one photobook with her fat tits in a swimsuit.
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>>50019636
Two photobooks
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>>50019636
I like her more than woke Oda. As much as I dislike oda, she is the current best singer. They need new blood with talent. H!P needs to talent scout, because the good talent isn't coming to them anymore. They need to be proactive and seek out talent. If they cant even afford it.
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>>50019636
Why is she leaving?
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>>50019771
Not too sure. She said the same old thing about lately wanting to follow her own dreams. No explanation what that means. Hopefully put those fat tatties to use and raise some well-fed kids.
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Morning Musume live
Behind the scenes of Maria's and Mihane's selfish request. Mihane drags people into her fetish. Maria wisely requests "producing" and makes the trainees do the performance.
Behind the scenes of Children Who Don't Know War. Rena (147cm) in heels towering over Inoue (151cm) in flats.
Ocha Norma live
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>>50021885
Oda looks like a Filipino cleaning lady.
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>>50022902
kek
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>>50021160
Hopefully she does get use them as intended. It seems like only the golden era girls being the only ones to get married and have kids. These zoomer members just stopped breeding.

I heard that Zuki got married recently. How many will she make?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mxg2EdmOAs
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>>50023579
It was cruel placing old oda next to mei. Mei completely moggs oda(except vocally)

>>50021885
I just realized... who the fuck is that? Te girl in yellowm Is she even in morning musume? When did morning musume start letting in literal randos off the street.
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>>50021160
Shes been there for 10 years. She's bored and wants to try something else. Hopefully she doesnt waste the rest of her youth and she find a guy to marry and makes 4 kids.shes a pretty girl with nice eyes and eyebrows. She looks much better now than she did as a teen.
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>>50022902
Filipinos are great singers
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>>50024519
>rando
That's Homatan! She's a cute from 15th gen. Although, I did notice her face looks extra chubby in >>50021885
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>>50026463
Oh yeah. I didnt recognize her at all. I usually recognize her by her monkey ears. Morning musume has been missing the obese member since zuki. Give her your energy and food so that she takes on the *heavy* mantle.
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Kamei Erei is having sexo right now
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>>50027149
No she's not. My wife is sitting right next to me.
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Clever Ami "tripping" and falling on Fuka-chan.
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What are the most popular Hello groups?
Are they still Morning and Angerme?
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>>50021885
God, I'm leaving for 5 years and when I come back, Morning's visual has fallen too hard.

The only cute ones are Panda and Maria, what happened?
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>>50028666
>trips of truth
tell her i think she's cute! and funny!
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>>50029391
Aside from MM, I'd say the rest are all tied. Do H!P polls exist anymore? I'm liking Tsubaki Factory atm.
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>>50029400
You were here 5 years ago? Then you know what happened, and it just keeps happening.
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Manaka live
MCs Manaka & Honoka
Maachan album announcement
Studio talk
Akari and Hasumi Uemura live. They're not related, right?
Snacks
Talk
Live from the J.P Room Fan Appreciation event. Ayumi, Manaka, Chiichan
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>>50031135
Beyooooooooooooooooooooooonds is okay sometimes but they are weird. I like do did done did does did dun

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NX0GAXLvKFQ&pp=0gcJCRsBo7VqN5tD
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>>50031206
After Oda, maria, Nonoka and Akane graduate, Mei will be carrying Morning Musume. It must mean something that non of the ex morning musume members who've had daughters have encouraged them to join H!P. They must all know something about working there that makes them think they can find better options for their kids if they are interested in being idols.

Imagine of Noa joined Morning Musume. She would outshine all of H!P by herself (except maybe Airi). Yet H!P used to be filled with a lot of charismatic members like that. They need to fire everyone and start over. Including staff.

Modern morning musume isn't worthy of Noa or any of the golden era girls. Even circa 2002 Makoto Ogawa would out shine the current gens.
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>>50032180
Even if they had another Goto Maki join, they wouldn't know what to do with her. They lost visionary producers like Tsunku to make use of talent like that.
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>>50032180
Wash your mouth to talk about 2002 Ogawa-san
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>>50033898
2010 Ogawa fine.
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>>50032224
How visionary was Tsunku? He put on a serious, 'genius at work', chunni atmosphere, and chose girls from a photo album after humming and hawing, but that's about it. Then he disappeared from their lives and went on to scout more 10 year olds. Did he ever work with the girls he had? Or work with them in the recording studio? Doesn't sound like it. According to Maachan in (Wotaintranslation)picrel, while she would hope for his feedback, she was left alone, wondering if she was singing HIS lyrics correctly. Maachan did everything on her own and never got feedback from Tsunku, according to picrel. She also went on to become the most popular idol in H!P during her time. No thanks to Tsunku and his 'genius'.
Actually, it's kind of sick if you think about it: Tsunku fostering this atmosphere where he hand-picks the girls from hundreds and then, from there on, never shows up to give his approval/acknowledgement. He dropped them quick and moved on. Didn't talk to them, wasn't in the recording booth with them. No wonder Aibon went on to fuck staff members and developed a post-sex cigarette habit. If anything, the downfall of H!P is due to the Tsunku business plan. This also explains why OG's don't put their daughters into H!P kenshuusei. Also, yakuza put cameras in the bathrooms, and Tsunku is like, ...
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>>50034270
By time Maachan was there the days of Tsunku in the recording studio were already over. He was very hands on in the golden era. Ayaya and Maki. A little too controlling according to Maki. He was slowly detached from working with the girls directly over time. By time of the platinum era the girls almost never saw him.

>Also, yakuza put cameras in the bathrooms

There was more than went on then what most know. There were other spy camera incidents that happened outside of the office, but they are lost to time now. The forgotten ones I remember hearing about off the top of my head are:

>-Mari Yaguchi hot springs/tub spy camera incident

>-Tsuji upskirt spy camera incident

>-Fujimoto changing room spy camera incident

>-Supposed leak of Maki sex photos or video

>-Suposed shower spy cam incident involving one of the members

All those incidents covered up or forgotten now thankfully. Hopefully some were bullshit, but wouldn't surprise me if all were real.

>No wonder Aibon went on to fuck staff members

Lol that's because she didnt have a father figure and came from a broken home. However just the fact that staff members were hitting on her when she was 12 or 13 and never got found is something. That could be a reason why every guy she got with post graduation was way older than her. She said she's always liked "older guys". What did they do to her. Tsuji doesnt talk to her anymore because she knows Kago is fucked in the head.

Goto Yuuki also said in his YouTube that there was a female manager that he ended up sleeping with, AND she slept with his underage friends from school! Just some tid bits of info that Yuuki shared about how a certain MM member slept with him goes to show a lot more shenanigans went on in early H!P than most people would think. Maki also slept with that idol guy when she was 14 according to that one guy's book where he said they were both the same age and they were secret bf/gf and claimed he lost his V card to Maki. Those OG members were boy crazy, but that's why they all got married and made lots of babies almost as soon as they graduated unlike new gens.

If half the stuff that Yuuki said was true, then I guess that might be why none of the OGs will send their kids into H!P lol.

The stuff involving H!P staff and managers is surprising but not surprising. But a bit disturbing if it really was that frequent. Nothing negative about Tsunku I heard.

This "scandal" involving Rio is soft stuff by OG standards lol.
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>>50034270
> If anything, the downfall of H!P is due to the Tsunku business plan.

Tsunku killing the subunits in 2002 badly hurt H!P. We all wanted to believe it would all work out in the end, but looking back on it, the era of Tampopo, PetiteMoni, Mini Moni, Country Musume, ect was absolute peak. Even now when you search for old H!P merch that era stands out as iconic. Very strong branding and idenity. H!P never felt the same afterwards, even after trying to resurrect the subgroups with a member shuffle. The chemistry and dynamics was broken.

Of course petite moni and tampopo couldn't have Yossy, Kei, and Maki forever and would eventually change members but in the case of Tampopo they totally killed the concept. The new song wasnt anything that Tampopo was supposed to be about. All the new unit versions blended together and their idenity and concepts got eroded. That was a big Tsunku mistake. But STILL more developed than modern H!P. All these modern H!P groups PVs are interchangeable. You cant even tell which group is which besides recognizing some of the members. Beyoooooonds at least had a strong and unique concept but lately their new music sounds more like something Morning Musume would sing.

Juice=Juice also reminds me of a Morning Musume style song.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtbnP1onaM

I don't get it, what's supposed to be unique with these groups? One has more uggos than the other?
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Ogawa Makoto shaved her jaw
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>>50037112
Big mistake. :^(
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i will play ミニモニ。シャカっとタンバリン!だぴょん! right now
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>>50037112
She had a very nice jaw. Reminded me of my japanese ex. Why do Asian women think well defined jawlines are ugly?
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>>50040241
Cause their "men" are too insecure
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What is your favorite MM music video ever? For mr its a tie between Manpower and Shabondama
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>>50044913
Wow manpower?!?! I remember every one at the time said it was both the worst song and PV they ever made till that point. But I think it was way too harsh a judgement. Even now it gets stuck in my head. The Greek goddess costumes were hot, but too bad the budget for music videos during that time really got tight.

Its one of those songs that divides wota. Some hate it, some love it. I've come to like it. Its unique and catchy.
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>>50044913
>>50045388
What about the music video did you like?
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>>50045388
Koi no Dance MV is way worse
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the big 4 0 ! happy birthday, gomaki!
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>>50054556
GILF
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Don't search Yukos age
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>>50055874
Dont worry I won't.
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Kissing Kaorins tummy
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>>50057141
>Rei no Pūru
>tfw no aibon jav
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Juice=Juice live
MCs Fuka (Tsubaki) and Yume (Rosy)
Akane and Madoka selfish request
Ayuka & Yume work at Black Summer Week for the Chiba Lotte Marines
Tsubaki Factory live. Yuu and Fuka-chan going nuts on the taiko! I guess that's what this was all about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83HMOres8-o
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>Why can't H!P get good talent

Modern Japanese girls dont want to join H!P
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>>50057628
If Kago did AV it would be sad.
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>>50059932
Akb and Nogi should be dead
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>>50060616
So should H!P
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>>50061125
Word
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>>50061652
Word
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>>50059937
Now? Yeah it would be sad.
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Never faped to a MM before
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Uemura and Uemura live again
MCs Manaka and Honoka again
The ad for H!P tryouts appears earlier and earlier in the show. They desperate.
Manaka live of Pink Temperature. She's always good.
M-Hello Kitchen corner. Instead of pancakes, drizzle the caramel on Manaka!
M-Line Autumn tour comments. Sounds like there's a new song? "Music Voyager"?
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>>50065437
not even a rika? sad
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I know she's 25 and blew her back out earlier this year, but I'm gonna need Ami to hold off graduation for at least 12 months. Maybe do another photobook too.
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>>50068483
I discovered the group because of the Aitors vídeo, but I think that I did to Risa once
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Ok I will do it to Makoto (evens) or Rika (odds) today
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>>50070871
What is Aitors vidhnh2aeo?
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>>50070871
What is Aitors video?
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>>50073566
Her, Rika and Kamei. Brown girls are the best
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>>50073667
Miki has Korean blood.
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>>50073572
when ai met aitor. maybe
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>>50074179
Oh this guy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hRCTqLlMyow

Funny that anon watched this video, saw this guy and thought to himself, "yup, I want to become a morning musume fan just like Aitor!". Lol. H!P certainly attracts the best sort of people to be fans.
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>>50074246
I didn't think about the guy at all, he talks about Kimagure Princess and I listened to the song and liked it, also there was an anon that used a Sayumi reaction at /sp/ plus the prairie dog video. But the thing that hooked me in MM was the English lesson video
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>>50073579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z-3jHbbcZU
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>>50075120
Good
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>>50075721
And this makes any difference because...
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>>50075877
Nothing. Good stuff.
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>>50044913
Maybe the train one
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>>50077601
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>>50077601
Good pick. A fun video and great concept
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>>50073566
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>>50078923
Someone please throw Makoto into a time machine. This makes me feel sad.
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>>50079595
have you seen Mikitty?
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>>50079854
How many kids has Makoto had? Miki is still MILF mode.
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>>50082383
yeah but she is not a junkhead like makochan
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>>50082768
What's a junk head? I don't mind Makoto, but she just isn't that interesting by herself. She was cute sometimes in Hello! Morning, but she killed any momentum she might have had posted MM life going to New Zealand. I mean if she planned to stay in show business. Im sure she learned a lot abd grow as a person. How many white bfs do you think she had while there?

What ever happened to Aika?
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00:00~ Sai KOO DE DANCE / DJ KOO × BEYOOOOONDS (8/17 LaLa arena TOKYO-BAY)
03:46~ Opening
09:52~ Hello! Kami: Close-up recording of Juice=Juice's "More! Mi Amore"
25:24~ MC Talk! Watch Hello! Kami
27:52~ MC Talk! OCHA NORMA: Preparing for their first Nippon Budokan performance...
31:30~ I Know It! / OCHA NORMA (3/23 Yokohama Bay Hall)
35:38~ Hello! Social Media Check Part 1
38:13~ Hello! Social Media Check Part 2
40:01~ Towa no Uta / Hello! Project (8/17 LaLa arena TOKYO-BAY)
43:07~ Ending
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https://helloproject.com/news/19509/

h!p can't make rent
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Baka ne baka ne baka ne
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>Hello! Morning Script - Episodes 171-175 (2003) (Scan)
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00:00~ VTR 佐藤優樹「ロマンティックなんてガラじゃない」
    佐藤優樹 Live Tour 2025 ~Ember~(7.26 新宿ReNY)
02:54~ 今週のダイジェスト!
03:36~ オープニング~「まずはお互いの印象から…」
08:05~ スタジオトーク「ロマンティックなんてガラじゃない」について
10:23~ スタジオトーク 最近の「つばきファクトリー」について
15:00~ スタジオトーク「青春バスガイド」について
16:58~ VTR 須藤茉麻・夏焼雅・熊井友理奈「青春バスガイド」
    Berryz工房スッペシャルライブ ~HAPPY! Stand Up~(5.10 横浜ランドマークホール)
20:33~ おやつタイム「芋モンブラン大福」(銀座 芋山)
23:59~ スタジオトーク「夏を振り返って…」
28:52~ スタジオトーク「浮気なハニーパイ」について
30:21~ VTR 植村あかり・植村葉純「浮気なハニーパイ」
    エムハロイベント vol.2 ~植村あかり×ロージークロニクル 植村葉純~(8.26 墨田区曳舟文化センター 劇場ホール)
33:12~ エンディング
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>>50108054
Her selfies included?ssrxh
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>>50112119
>It features two parts: the first half, where she personally photographed members using a film camera, and the second half, shot at locations Akane Haga wanted to visit
Other members. Hopefully while they're changing and yelling "kyaaaa!" I wonder how far back her photo habit goes?
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>>50116592
She has OCD and other mental issues.
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>>50119072
Yuu and Marine are looking chonky. Must be lens distortion.
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>>50116592
you guys posted her wrinkles and called her 'granny' one too many times. she gone.
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>>50121021
Why are her knees dirty.
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>>50123170
"idol work"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HveMW6TsZ4Q

some juice=juice
some ocha norma
some tsubaki factory
i hate those fucking glasses. and now they're sitting crooked on her face.
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>backs losers instead of fellow countrymen
why is she like this?
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It's amazing how Runo can singlehandedly dunk on the entirety of Morning Musume, featuring Reina Tanaka, Sayumi Michishige, Oda Sakura, Masaki Sato... and then lead off into Tsubaki massacring another song by talented, Angerme. Tsubaki is too overpowered.
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>>50134419
Morning Musume is where they put all of H!P's "winners". But morning musume itself was first not made up of the 1st place winners but runner ups. Just like in1997 where Michiyo Heike won, she was supposed to be the golden girl. The flagship of Upfront. But morning musume made up of the "losers" ended up over shadowing her completely. Ended up with the best songs, more talent and more success. Morning Musume 25 is the new Michiyo Heike. The "lesser" groups are more morning musume than morning musume now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYkZq6x9efY

Maachan live
M-Hello collab with Ozeki and Roko
Ozeki solo Cinderella Complex
M-Hello Kitchen, lemonade
Behind the scenes Rika Shimakura
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1P1mTG4xFs

Maachan on Guchy-Na! to promote her album. Confirms she wrote a song, Small Voice. I thought she wrote a couple more?
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>>50136994
>wrote a song

With chat GPT and Suno?
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>>50137989
I don't think chatGPT can decipher Maachan ramblings
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>>50136994
>>50138487
Love this hoe
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Any concert where Runo gets to "あぁぁぁぁ!!!" is a good one!
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>>50143655
umai!
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Shige mogs every golden age gal
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>>50055874
Cause it will make me too horny.
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>>50119066
The only one I know is yaguchan
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>>50147674
I just realized who you were talking about.

She also mogs Sayumi. Shes really hot.
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It's Nishimura's birthday (JST). Say something nice about her. hairline is verboten
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sad
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>>50134752
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i really wanted to get into current morning musume but they all look boring and so does their current songs
why do reiwa girls all have this boring face template unlike the heisei girls
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>>50158740
And they all use skin lightening. Same bangs, same hair cut. Also same lack of morals and ambition, while also being more closed minded at the same time slurping down global homo. They do look younger though, but also act more immature for their age.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXB1gMTP-ew

Juice=Juice
Angerme
H!P kenshuusei
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>>50158740
If no one has piqued your interest, it's over. Don't waste more of your time. They're pretty much just a music group now anyways. Visiting Guam was the biggest thing MM had done in a while, I assume - it's locked behind Hulu JP region so I haven't seen full episodes. But that's it.
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>>50161658
>music group
Yeah a music group that only makes a couple singles a year. MAYBE. Look at the music output that Cutie Street and Fruit Zipper are putting out. THOSE are music groups. Morning Musume is managed by U!F corporate interns and OLs at this point.

>Guam
No bikinis, no fun. They hate their fans and money.

I watched the Mei video where she went to the Zoo. I ended up laughing to myself halfway through because I realized these girls just aren't famous or popular at all. And I like Mei. No one recognized Mei at the zoo and didnt care. Back in the day Tsuji and Kago would be followed by tons of fans if they were spotted in public and always had to covsr their faces. Now, these modern members dont even have to wear caps or face masks to hide their idenity. No one cares or knows who they are. Morning Musume is an underground idol group in terms of member recognition for general public.
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>>50162157
H!P is so lame, they are mostly a gravure group that puts out non gravure, gravure photobooks and sometimes does music on the side and is mostly a cover band of a much greater music group that no longer exists. When was the last time they were ever on TV. The modern group. Not the golden era ex members. At least one of those girls is on TV at least once a week still.
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>>50162157
I'm guessing they make the most money from concerts and merch. They seem to be performing almost every weekend.
H!P is probably so desperate to get idols that they give in to every demand, like no swimsuits because the girl is too embarrassed. And that's what gets us Riley's photobook of architecture. lol.

I watched a video the other day of vtubers walking around Universal Studios Japan. I think they had the whole park to themselves. MM can't pull that off anymore. I'm not surprised Mei walked around unnoticed.
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>>50154531
Who is this?
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>>50162683
Aneshige 姉重, Sayumi's older sister.

https://helloproject.fandom.com/wiki/Side:Aneshige
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>>50163341
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>>50162209
I agree they are mostly venue performers now. But they are only slightly above live stage production performers in terms of popularity or recognition. Most of current members will mostly likely fade back into obscurity if they can't land a place in m-line or can't get into stage acting.
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>>50044913
nanchatte renai. good song. good costumes. great legs, especially reina and koharu.
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>>50162169
>a cover band of a much greater music group that no longer exists
This. I think this is the greatest advantage H!P has - a legacy. If you join H!P, you're automatically given a ton of guaranteed hits to perform at a concert. TikTok girls don't have this. So this is a scrap of advantage H!P has for attracting talent - sign with us and you'll get big concerts, and songs everyone habitually loves, regardless.
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>>50166163
That is a good point. Thing is, for better or worse nearly all the new members were already fans. Or their father was a fan and encouraged the daughter to join. I cant remember which member it was, but her dad was a big golden era fan. He pretty much groomed her to join H!P. There was more than one like that if I recall.

Then you have members like Goto Maki who didnt even know any of the songs or members when she first joined lol.

Modern H!P has sort of restricted themselves to a pool of future members to its own fan base. Some of it generational fandom.

A shame that none of the ex morning musume mamas have so far sent any of their daughters into one of the H!P groups. Goto maki's neice Serizawa Moa would have been big in Morning Musume like her aunt. But maybe they would have wasted her.
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>>50166163
>legacy

As much as I whine about modern H!P I still bought one of those 25th anniversary shirts. lol. I wear it in public sometimes. Its low key.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSIy_YN05Ac

Chiichan and Manaka live
Chiichan x Ozeki announce their new single
live Melon Kinenbi with Fukumura and Takeuchi
live Karin Miyamoto at the mall
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