https://toho-vote.info/resultDiscuss results and post funny comments you see
>>49936605Why start with your own comment?Also how to read those?
>>49936621That's not me. I was just curious to see if Renkoposting here has actually had any impact on Renko herself, so I was happy to find at least one Anon.
>>49936605HUH? Nue was 53 a couple of minutes ago, and now she is 54. Are they still counting the votes?
>Mizuchi comments>Mima but relevantReal
These are the biggest winners of the Touhou vote. Say something nice about them!
>古明地 こいし（1位）Koishi needs to stop using her powers to plant the idea of voting for her into random people's heads, that's unethical
>>49936660who the fug is zuirei
>>49936660Congratulations Walnut
These are the biggest losers of the Touhou vote. Say something mean about them!
How the fuck is Koishi so popular? Especially when her own sister is much better than her? Did a new lit doujinshi or fangame come out I wasn't aware of?
>>49936690Kids just really love Koishi. Autistics also really love Koishi.
>>49936678>Chupacabra>Good condolences>Big catfish>Hair ball>Antidepressant uncle>Japan and white, no remains>Easy person
>>49936678poor chiya
>>49936690KKHTAIt's no coincidence the year it comes back she shoots up to #1
>>49936690>Especially when her own sister is much better than her?Truly, she gave us CDS, which was really great in itself and for the character.
>>49936678>antidepressant uncleThe what?
>>49936714the drug addict from the manga who has reisen as his cocaine sellerAKA anxious moustached villager
>>49936714the guy on the rightFS ch 34
>>49936660WRIGGLE SUPREMACY
>>49936690>>49936704KKHTA is popular but it is a niece form of popular. It does not have the manpower to solo catapult Koishi into first.
imagine placing lower than a CDS character, who didn't show up until the last two chapters, who has no lines, who hasn't even got a name.my number 1 placed lower...
>Sanae-san is someone who gave me the strength to live. I twice considered taking my own life, once due to a setback in my job search and once due to depression after starting work, but she helped me both times. If I hadn't met her then, I might not be here today, or at least I wouldn't be who I am today. Thanks to her, I've become more proactive. With her help, I was able to resume hobbies, sports, and studies that I had once stopped. Through each of these activities, I have greatly expanded my knowledge, potential, and friendships. Now, Sanae-san accompanies me to almost all of my activities. With her by my side, I can unleash my potential, even when I don't normally have it. I've been able to perform techniques I couldn't do before and have achieved good results in qualifications and competitions. Previously, I was afraid of changing my environment or taking on new challenges. At times like these, I find courage when I remember how Sanae-san came to Gensou from a different world, but continued to train every day, earning her acceptance and trust, and even making her own debut as a player. Sanae-san will always be my number one pick. Thank you as always, Sanae-san. I love you, Sanae-san. I'll always be rooting for you, Sanae-san.God damn
Guess the girl
>>49936756The power of Toho Purojekuto..>>49936752Don't bully Shou. I voted for her. She's a good standout gal.
>>49936690Her design is both simple enough to remember and unique enough to stand out, she has a cheerful personality, her backstory in at least intriguing when you hear it for the first time, her ability sounds cool, her being an EX boss gives her a unique mystique for some and there are enough unique details surrounding her(like her being hard to remember because she lacks an ego, or her color scheme being the opposite of Satori's) to impress someone who's just finding out about Touhou.This makes her very appealing to newfags and children, and there are enough memes surrounding her to give her a semi-decent fan retention and to make her many people's introduction to Touhou.
>>49936771All this is true, but doesn't explain how she got over 2,000 more first pick votes this year than she did last year.
>>49936678I was wondering what movement was pushing Akyuu last year, then I remembered that was the year Akyuu was expected to die.
>your 2hu>her positionRan31st :'(
>>49936660Wins by doing absolutely nothing
>>49936774Oh, I thought you were asking why she is popular in general. I heard she's prominent in the gatcha, which has a concerning amount of influence in the polls, KKHTA came back this year, and Touhou is becoming more popular, bolstering her primary demographics: newfags and children.
>>49936678The 19hus dropped off HARD
>>49936784She's a meta unit in LostWord and someone in the other thread mentioned a cosplayer leading a campaign for her.
Cirno10
>>49936781Mask girl20thimpressive she remained in the top 20 ever since her hm despite never appearing again in a meaningful way after th 15.5
Mima 56 -> 49
>>49936781>Wriggle>63rd and risingYou WILL worship ze bug
Do you guys think it was rigged ?
>>49936833it's always rigged but there are so many riggers that it just reflects the love voters have for that hu
>>49936781>>49936781>>your 2huYumemi.>>her position#90. She's slowly but surely going up.
>>49936833That's it. I'm making 50 emails right this moment.
>>49936833It's always rigged I believe, you can just make many different accounts.
>>49936833probably
>>49936822If we push her to top 10 there's no way ZUN can continue to deny her...
>>49936781Mokou9thHonestly I was expecting for her to go down a rank again this year but fortunately it didn't happen.
>>49936846see you in 10 years
>>49936781Kasen-chan shot up in 1 rank!45!
So, is 19 going to get memoryholed?
beatMario still coasting on the popularity of one song he made +20 years agorespect.
>>49936781Kogasa22She will get back to top 20 soon!!!
>>49936781SanaeLucky number 13The days of her being in rank 2 are long behind us
Yukari staying in the 16th seat for three years is kinda funny
>>49936818Next year, we take #9!
>>49936809She's been in LW for longer than a year though.
>>49936904paizuri
>>49936833I mean, do you honestly think that Lotus Land Story placement is legit? Game is fun, but come on now.
>>49936784*cough*NOcTiiLiO*cough*
>>49936660Kana ascension!
>>49936924Yuuka debuted in it and according to >>49936809 the Gengetsu cosplayer's campaign might've had something to do with it. It is pretty odd seeing it that high up even taking those into account unless the campaign was much bigger than I'm imagining it.
What were ZUN's favorites?
>>49936950reimumarisahecatiaflandrekoshiremilia--chiruno-
>>49936940I know Yuuka debuted in it but it usually doesn't make top 10. According to the last few polls:2024: 18th place2023: 18th place2022: 16th place2021: 18th place2020: 23rd place2019: 27th place
>>49936950>hecatia 3rdDid he really think that'd happen?
>>49936968#7 is Okina
>>49936605Why is Megumu Iizunamaru seeing such big jumps in popularity? Must be a popular fanwork going on or something.
>>49936605Translated results.https://maribelhearn.com/thvote
>>4993678148th. Top 50 is nice. Can't really complain.>>4993686619 seems, like a very mixed bag to put it nicely, and I've seen plenty of people say it's outright the worst modern mainline title. I've seen 18 and 20 both received more positively, even with the grievances people had with 18's random nature, and the uphill battle 20 had. 20 in particular is doing very well for itself in that regard. So 19 being sandwiched between better games like that really doesn't bode well for it, especially not with how hard 19's girls fell off. >>49936950Assuming google fetched things right. Reimu, Marisa, HecaT, Flan, Koishi, Remi, Okina, Eirin(?), Cirno, and google couldn't grab the 10th, and now it won't fetch the image for me to properly
>>49936971probably just a pun about her 3 bodies, he mentions it in the smaller writing
>>49936982She's a very versatile character. The tengu are popular already, and she's the (defacto) boss of them and has a sexy sex fox assistant. Characters like her do great.
>>49936982Isn't it just Tengufags? People love their tengu.
>>49936982I think she's just had a slow awakening for peopleI remember being really annoyed for a while when people would do pictures for Tengu day and other group shots of the tengu but it would just be Momiji, Aya, and Hatate despite Megumu existing too, but over time that's happened less and less, and these days she's included regularly.
>>49936978thanks, 8th is eirin btw
>>49936989I suppose, but #66 in 2023, #55 in 2024 and #42 in 2025.. there must be something else than just versatility going on. In general it seems that Chimata, Tsukasa and Megumu have all managed to stay relatively popular for characters from modern games.
>>49936950#10 is nareko
This is probably the first time he stated his opinion on the poll
>>49936660>Tocchan +46 placesDamn, she skyrocked to the moon!>MiMi almost 92 Fuck, my rape jokes all gone... >>49936678KWAB!>Akyuu -40KWABOTY!
>>49936950reimumarisahecatiaflandrekoishiremiliaokinaeirincirnonareko
>>49937004>Shrine MaidenReimu was ZUN all along?
>>49937004Thank goodness, or else we'd get nothing but endless Reimu, Flandre, and Koishi shilling.
>>49937002The last Chimata thread finally sold me on Chimata and had me throw her a vote. Maybe the UMfags are really good at propaganda for their girls. Ended up giving Momoyo one too. The UM girls in general have just, been slowly growing on me despite not really caring for them initially.>>49937003>馴子Someone get this man sobered up before he starts writing next time.
>>49937017>or else we'd get nothing but endless Reimu shillingWe already get that though.
>>49936866>>49936985I wouldn't necessarily call 18 a better game, but yeah, being the series' rock bottom certainly won't help 19 in the long run.
>>49937014I mean, his nickname is “Head Priest”, functionality he is no different than Reimu
>>49937017>we get nothing but Reimu shillingSo you don't know?
>>49936781Rumia19th
>>49937017Reimu hijacked Satori's comic
>>49937026how do you fuck up the horse kanji that bad, maybe he didnt actually remember the correct spelling?
>>49937034Reimu isn't a priestess, ZUN's, if anything, closer to Sanae.
>>49937034Reimu is a shaman, not a priest.Source : Demoman.
>>49937044Who cares what the FoTM NuHu is called
>>49936809>>49936927>gacha and a frenchieGrim.
>>49937026For what it's worth, 18 probably has the most consistently good character designs of any of the games post 15 even if I only really like Mike and Tsukasa and find Chimata funny and charming. It's like an oasis in a sense.
>>49936982This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LgD7AK0pcwI'm dead serious
>>49937061What else is gonna be? Last time Gengetsu was relevant, the WTC and Yugoslavia still existed, Windows 98 and DVDs were brand new and hundreds of thousands of WWI veterans were still around.
>>49937070黙れ！射命丸！
Did I hear right or did ZUN say in the stream that Rin Satsuki does exist within the setting of Touhou
>>49937099Yes, he erased Rin Satsuki
>>49937099#RINSATSUKIREAL2025?
>>49937061Truly. I'd hate to imagine just how much it influences things though. Given ZUN did change Flan up precisely because of the younger audience.
Ubame not only has the worst debut of any Windows character, but she's also... the least voted Windows character. 163rd, squished between Meira and Rika, 4 spots below Urumi.Chimi at 133rd isn't much better.
>>49936819It's because she's the cutest!!!!
>>49937070Ah, that would do it. This reminds me of the MMD of the UFO cast ruminating about their loss of popularity and hoping that a talented MMD maker with a niche taste would pick them up and make them popular. Suppose Megumu hit a jackpot with this one.
>>49937120Hags don't do well unless they are stage 6 or ex bosses, I fear.
>>49937099And next he's gonna say that the One Piece is real?
>>49937120Wait, she did it?My girl isn't deadlast this year, AND she beat a newhu? you're pulling my leg here
>>49937140It really is the case.The bottom 5 for Windows this year is Ubame, Urumi, Sannyo, Kisume and Misumaru.This bottom 5 reeks of perfume, smoke, and failed speed datings with Anons. Kisume snuck in there too.And yes, Nemuno escaped the bunch this year.
>>49937120I wonder if a tiny bit of this might be because they didn't include the other half of the FW newhus. I would've voted for Asama, Ariya, or Nina, but they weren't available. With that in mind, but still wanting to give a vote to a newhu, I picked Nareko.
>>49936865The only shame is that Kasen's animals didn't go up in rank, only arm-chan and Kasen, but that's still great. Kind of wish Ibaraki-douji would count as her own vote too, but having 3 versions of Kasen in the poll might be cheating.
>>49937120She's basically reheated Nemuno with uglier colors. Not even the fairy-throwing gimmick could save her.
>>49936781Yuugi84About the same as usual for her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhbLhM2XDCYHere's your lowest rated Touhou track!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4s3CEqemMUAnd here's your lowest rated ZUN touhou track!
what is "supported works"?
Fossilized Wonders Popularity Poll!!!https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfjd9JdZOR-LMGPKA2FqnyCMTJOxNj9QDNo00v1QbhqTpPACA/viewform?pli=1Vote for your favourite newhu!!!
>>49937201You send schizo scribbles, but it's not worth it because they don't add points.
>>49936904yeah forever sixteen or something, that's how the meme goes
The same results as every other time.
Best new gen Touhou manga
>>49937248Hard carried by MiMi
Congratulations Koishi
>138/139 Support Workswhat the hell was that one guy doing
>>49937207why google form?
>>49937273Datamining
How did taking over Satori's manga end up hurting Reimu's popularity?
>>49937297To me it gave this perception of her being an anchor getting tacked onto the story because a Touhou Project needs Reimu instead of her existing as a vehicle to explore the setting through.
>>49936678Meira Btfo
>>49937297Because she sucks
>>49937265>almost lost to the previous shrine maidenthe fuck happened to Zanmu
>>49937335No one likes trans woman.
>>49936678And Reimu, who dropped from first to third. Pathetic miko!
>>49936678>three fairies of pedobait still at the bottom even after numerous fucking manga dedicated to them
>>49936660HARU DESU YOOOOOOO
>>49937353The youkai shrine maiden is declining...
>>49937297Some fans aren't happy with the Dragon Ball Z style that doesn't fit Touhou and ZUN is sometimes booking her like a Mary Sue. Or fans are just fed up with her.
>>49937255Meanwhile LE is carried by nothing bruh
>>49937378why r u brown?
>>49937297We like to meme about it but it’s simply an effect of point system change. This exposed that a LOT of people have Reimu in their top 7, but not top 1, because they feel obligated to vote for the main characterNow that first place vote matter more than ever before, we actually see whose fan actually care about voting for their 2hu
>>49937371>Or fans are just fed up with her.Reimu fatigue?
>>49936950Okina anywhere near top ten?Is he delusional or trolling?
>>49937371>DBZ styleI really hope the shift into appealing to a younger audience mindset ZUN seems to have lately passes or gets pulled back a bit eventually. The whole "mixing things up to appeal to the younger generation!"card feels like an incredibly slippery slope where quality usually drops significantly and the product becomes an infantilized version of what it originally was.
Does CDS have any show of danmaku?
>>49937452No. All "spellcards" shown are just fighting game moves.
>>49937443If I'm not mistaken, his biggest growing demographic in Japan are young girls. He made a very unique type of shojo/slice of life series, one that delves in history, folklore, and mythology yet is writing and marketing it like it's a shonen.
>>49937463What a pile of shit.
why is shion more popular than joon?
>>49937485Poorfag gets more pity moe points than her nouveau riche gold digger sister
>>49937378LE is just boring to read, this is like Asian food without sauces, or women wrestling without weapons and sexy outfits. This is shoot bland.>>49937387Just like Super Cena. Fans get enough and you have go-away heat even with thoughtless sheep marks like the Japs. There is also something else playing; Marisa's jobbing in CDS to show how strong Reimu is. Like Vegeta saying "Kakarot you are number 1" That shit doesn't fly much with Touhou.>>499373937 must be a rib for the 7 stars of the big dipper. Source : Hokuto no Ken.>>49937443Like most of older men; ZUN have this problem of being out of touch with the younger crowds, even worse! He is know to be shoot oblivious to what's happening to his fed sometimes. So yeah, he won't likely do a swerve on this booking style. But again, ZUN's booking talent in long stories isn't great. Do what most fans do; Abort canon when it's shit.>>49937464Classic old man out of touch with new gen.
>>49937485better feet & ass
>>49937513she has an ass?
>>49937443>>49937464>>49937506You all are making shit up just because he give Flandre something to do. It’s more likely that he realize Flandre exist and decided to give her some story relevance after 20+ years of nothing
>>49937506My favorite Touhou pro-wrestling review has come back!
Holy ESL
>>49937506Learn Englsih pajeet
>>49937537Thats why we need to meme Mima into top 20
>>49937273because its the first thing that comes to mind for japs
Mystia went from 52 to 47, I guess the anime and fangame were the cause of this increase.God bless
>>49936781Marisadidn't expect koishi to be above her desu
>>49937556Nobody is a EPL in /jp/, Sherlock. It's all yuros.>>49937561But enough about you.
>>49937574Sure, mehmed.
Among all newhu I knew for a fact Yuiman was BORN to be Zounose’s. He is already working on a book of her and Ariya meeting Kanako and Suwako
>>49937578We don't sign our posts here.
>>49937583>I knew for a fact Yuiman was BORN to be Zounose’s......how?
>>49937537>It’s more likely that he realize Flandre existKinda. He saw an elementary school kid draw her when he visited his kid's school, and that's why he used her more recently. he didn't even know she was popular at that time.
>>49937586Sorry I mean Yuiman, but leaving the fact that her story with Ariya is absolutely something he would write, Yuiman have>A snake that eat human in her design>Her power is to consume things>Have tied to Kanako and Suwako by extensionAll Zounose material
>>49937600That seems like a stretch, I know that artist is all about eating humans for no reason but Yuiman doesn't seem to be the kind of 2hu for that.
Never realize how high her skirt is, ZUN is playing a dangerous game
>>49937583TOTAL GRIMSOKYO VICTORY. HEIL ZOUNOSE!!! o/ -( HEIL!)HEIL SENTAKUBUNE!!! o/ -( HEIL!)HEIL AKIMAKI YUU!!! o/ -( HEIL!)HEIL HARASAKI!!! o/ -( HEIL!)HEIL ZUN!!! o/ -( HEIL!)
>>49937637MOKKORI
>>49936904I think she's been there since 2020. Barely missing 17th place for the 17 years old meme for so long just adds to it.
Idolatrize World holding tight to top 10 is like the most impressive feat for post-LoLK Touhou
>>49937666>The Gensokyo the Gods loved +1Why is this track so popular? Do the Japanese think it's "Gensokyo's theme" and that's why they keep voting for it?
>>49937689It's that good
>>49937689>The JapaneseEveryone in the entire fanbase agreed that it represent Gensokyo vibe the best and is the theme of GensokyoLike shit its name is literally “The Gensokyo the Gods Loved”
>>49937689>>49937689I vote for it because it's simple, unique, has a nice balance between joy and melancholia, and was the theme song for Memories of Phantasm, which was a part of how I came to like Touhou as much as I do now.
>>49937689It isn't?
>>49936781Kageroo83, up one spot!
>>49937711Nice
>>49936660Huh, the fairy propaganda worked. I think they have the highest number of first place votes relative to their middling rank.
>>49937362they're popular but as a trio
>>49937816I would do a trio with them yeah
>>49936605>FW stage 3 theme at 88>Nareko's theme at 113>FW stage 2 theme at 209>FW title theme at 219>Chimi's theme at 260>FW stage 1 theme at 305>Ubame's theme at 306How do you feel about Touhou 20's OST placements? I personally like Sacred Forest the most and voted for it so it being top 3 compared to the other FW themes is nice.
>パチュリー・ノーレッジ（18位）Patchouli will rise to the top soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ2nZUbmCdgThis is the least popular Touhou song according to the results.
>>49937852For the demo it look alright
>>49937852I think, much like anything newhu, it didn't really get a fair shake (partly thanks to the organisers not including the other half of the game)
>>49936605Bots.
What should be drawn about the results?
>>49937872The two songs with just 1 vote are both songs from the fighting games that play only outside of battles, so I think most people don't even know those exist.
>>49937913Gacha is a cancer on humanity and Reimu and Marisa will have some actual competition for the first spot.
>>49937913Popular 2hu are popular indeed
>>49936605Who dropped the most spots?
>>49937913Kids love oldhus
>almost 60% of the voters are under 20 years old>40-62% of voters haven't played the games at all, with the number growing higher with the newer entries>67% of voters didn't play the FW demoI shouldn't have read the voter statistics.
https://textbin.net/dcj6eogi63Done with counting the percentage of underaged voters for every Windows character and anything that was in between.What an exhausting task. Curse Ubame for getting 163rd.Infographic or tier list whenever I feel less tired.
>>49937913People do not vote for gameplay when it comes to ranking games. Songs can get carried to high spots just for belonging to popular characters.
>>49937929Akyuu by 40 you can see it here >>49936678
>>49937939and it's only going to get worse from here
Pouring one out for Violet Detector which is apparently the least popular game of them all.
>>49937939That's why this shit is so worthless. You should have to send in a Lunatic replay for any of your votes to be eligible.
>>49937954Is anyone surprised by that? It and Black Market are probably the worst games ZUN has put out. By a long shot I'd argue. (At least Violet Dectector's story is pretty out there)
>>49937939Wew thank god the poll does not matter and ZUN will keep doing whatever the fuck he want
Is this good or bad?
>>49937923It’s strange to me, is the gacha even that popular? I’m assuming Lost Word is the main one but that games playerbase seems nonexistent. The YouTube trailers get few views and I don’t see much fanart of the OCs.
something stinks here and it ain't Mizuchi's body
>>49937979People just look for things to blame. If LW was super influencial on anything then Zanmu should be a top ranking character in this poll instead of dropping more and more.
>>49937987you mean the support works? it's nothing special, one guy just submitted well over a hundred. I'm not entirely sure all of them are different pictures and not just edited versions of previous pictures, but they're all real. I'm one of the very few, if not only, other person to submit Mizuchi/Previous Hakurei Shrine Maiden support workshttps://x.com/KKalfa55611932
>>49937979Apparently it seem popular in Japan, and is the gateway to Touhou for many underage To be fair playing a gacha is way easier than trying to get a 1cc, and it’s free
>>49937872I like it...
>>49937939lmao this nigga just realizing Touhou was never about the games or characters, it's all about the music and the fandom.
>>49937939This image is from 2013 and is what your average 2hu fan used to be at the time.
Btw Koakuma is stronger than Daiyousei
>>49938009woah that's a ton of mizuchislop
>>4993800598hus gain popularity the year they are featured in the gacha with nothing else to justify that rise in popularityZanmu is shit
>>49937979According to the poll it's responsible for a little below 4% of responses, and 55,4% played a mobageAs its player it continues to baffle me because it doesn't SEEM to bring a lot of money, but they constantly splurge on production - artists, music, giving three fucking voices to each character>>49938015pic related, the fandom is rather divisive (hell even here you'll have threads you won't stomach)
I am fine with Koishi 1st because it was a pleasant surprise, I thought with the change in system, Flandre or Marisa is going to be the one with huge advantage, but it turned out to be Koishi
>>49937940Almost 60% of voters are under 20 years old as >>49937939 said.1 out of the 3 girls from FW's demo is above 50% and it's Ubame.None of the girls from 19 are above 50%.2 out of 8 of the girls from 18 are above 50% and it's still not above the average amount.None of the girls from 17 are above 50%.Is there any other franchise you guys know of where it's the older parts of the fanbase that consume the new stuff while the newcomers & the young consume the old stuff?
>>49938039Money is not the problem, they are backed by GoodSmile to be THE Touhou thing, and they will do it by weaseling their way into every facets of the fanbaseSo making money is not their priority
>>49938054So what is the best way of destroying their grip. KyoAni? Total boycott?
>>49938044Nah logically this is every fanbase, the older part of the fanbase are the one who is willing to follow and keep up with new contents, the newer and “tourist” part of the fanbase will keep perpetually old meme they saw years ago because they don’t care enough to keep up
>>49938054There has to be a point though where they realise that funnelling money into something that isn’t that popular isn’t working. I’ve seen monthly revenue charts for games and I don’t think I’ve Lost Word on it once, it doesn’t even make it onto the charts. I’m really surprised it hasn’t EoS’d yet nor will I be if it goes soon.
>>49938061You can’t Because thanks to them, a lot of circle get funded and event to perform, as well as job. So they are not 100% bad, I personally just don’t care what they are up to since Touhou can be whatever the fuck the fan wanted to be, if the fan wanted them around then I have no problem
>>49938009fucking hell that's one way to rig the votenot saying none of them have soul, but I gotta ask if a rule of one voter = one work shouldn't be in place>>49938054don't see why that's a bad thing, it's not like we have much leeway with how common piracy isI guarantee a ton of the circles invited were happy with the discoverability if not sponsorshipsAnd as another anon said they have like three good/recognizable OCs so it's not that influential
>>49938068Like I said the goal is not money, but influence Also pretty sure their main money maker are merch and event featuring popular Touhou music circle, a lot more people bought ticket to those than you imagined, so you will never see them on gacha revenue chart where they only count in-game transaction
goodsmile is trying to kill ZUN...
Idk if who else is like me but I made a point to vote based on my feeling at the moment, to keep my vote honest
>>4993803898hus are barely in the gacha and even then they are super rare, the real reason of their popularity is the WESTERN fandom. 100% the western fandom, who has no issue with the whole piracy aspect of the PC-98 games, unlike the Japs.
Easily the most handsome 2hu ever
>>49938113She's... homely.
>>49938083I get what you’re saying but I still don’t think it has much influence. I could be completely wrong as I don’t interact with the fanbase outside of this board, YouTube comments and JP Twitter but there doesn’t seem to be any grand influence from Lost Word. Nobody cares about the OCs, the plot or the “gameplay”, most of the arranges are pre-existing too. People know it as the Touhou gacha, but it is nowhere near as central to the fanbase as say FGO is to Fate (might be a bad example since FGO is official and Lost Word is still a doujin game but I think the point stands). If it were on the same level of relevance in the fanbase as Mystia’s Izakaya I’d agree. The concerts seem to be the only source of revenue. Good on them for funding circles but I still can’t see any notable influence.
>>49938113I appreciate your enthusiasm, but there's dying Ariya threads you could post these in
>>49938107My picks tend to remain the same, but I always keep one of the ten music spots free, so I can cast a vote for an underrated track I like to support that year.This year I voted for the 17.5 title theme (338th spot, 89 votes).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfU31yb8eNoWhat's everyone's least popular track they voted for?
I just hate the gacha and would do anything to get it EoS
>>49938009that nigga uploaded the same image multiple times but rotated 90 degrees each time, I fucking can'tbrb firing up my AI to generate thousands of my shithu art, since they clearly are not vetting that stuff
>>49937923>>49937926>>49937931>>49937948I meant to "draw" something about the results...
>>49936781Jo'on74, last year was 68
>>49938136Never said they succeeded in doing itThe gacha not being canon will forever keep it in its own corner, since not like anything going on in there matter, at least matter to the main game
KekI bet ZUN was running out of EoSD trivia to share so he just brought up Rin Satsuki only to say she is not a thing
>>49938219Koishi with a Burger King crownMarisa eternally secondReimu mad about being third place
>>49938219Your choice of Ubame (mandatory), Urumi, Sannyo, Misumaru and Nemuno comforting one another their unpopularity, maybe over a cake.
>>49938148Hangover of Bedfellows Dreaming Differently was 247th. Though from actual touhou video games the biggest flop I voted for was The Path to Yomi Where None Turn Back which was 243rd. I should use my ballot to vote for more less popular tracks next time honestly.
>>49938219>>49938248Have Cirno chilling in 10th place with a derpy smile and unfocused expression as her wings are melting, optionally holding the watermelon lifesaver of her latest LW skin while Mokou is looking somewhat unnerved at her standing in 9th
The comments on this is always funny, because these funny character have saved someone life at some point
A funny triviaIf you check detailed result, you can notice an upward trend in "When did you first learnt about Touhou?" and it peaked at...WBaWC and go downSo LoLK in fact, wasn't the last great Touhou game, it was WBaWC
>>49936605>Suwako went down this yearI find this lack of faith disturbing.On the bright side, now Zounose-sama is going to feature Suwako more in his next works. All's good.
A lot of EoSD stage themes are rated really high, like do people really love The Maid and the Pocket Watch of Blood, The Centennial Festival for Magical Girls and A Soul as Red as a Ground Cherry that much? Chinese Tea at least makes sense because it's genuinely a stunning song that completely overshadows the boss theme. EoSD menu theme has also increased in placing a lot for no apparent reason, which is weird. You'd think PCB menu theme would be rated much higher in comparison, but it's like 70 positions lower. The hell? EoSD wankery must be at an all time high.
>>49938304All of those are really good tracks. Voile, the Magic Library too.
>>49938304Taste aside, based on statistic, EoSD to IN in general are ranked so high because those are the work with the most number of people ever interacted with it since it's the start. People can't like something that they themselves have never experienced before
>>49938304ESOD's music is really unique in a retro way. Compare it to the guitar-ridden monstrosities that ZUN put out in modern games and you'll get it.
>>49938330It suck but in a good way, if you apply music theories to EoSD OST, it is horrendous in instrument choices, but sound good anyway
>>49936678>Antidepressant uncleI wanted to vote for him but didn't know what they call him in japanese..
>>49938304it's all the EoSD bonus. People vote for it because it's from EoSD. Most of them probably don't even know what it sounds like, especially cetennial festival.
>>49938330It's certainly unique but I never enjoyed how most of EoSD sounds. But I've seen plenty of fan artists emulate the EoSD/DiPP sound to make their own touhou-sounding music, so there has to be something there. Though all things considered, I like at least half of DiPP and would listen to the songs I like as is without resorting to remixes, wouldn't say the same for most EoSD tracks, those I even enjoy.
>>49938366It sound like digital music, back then ZUN definitely doesn't know shit about tuning so everything is super obviously electronic-soundingLike Tetris music or all old video game music
Apparently ZUNpets are dead because Windows 11 no longer supports the audio drives for them.
>>49938148Usually I do restrictions for the music vote to spice it up and make me think a bit. This year for top 2 I went with my usual picks for the extra points and the rest are "favourite tracks for title + each stage". My lowest pick from what I see is A Beast's Intelligence at 383.
>>49937009>>49937950Akyuu lost, Fairies won.
>>49936605It was rigged, right? The discrepancy in No.1 votes between 1st and 2nd is absurd.
>>49938552Anon, let me tell you about the time when the dork with the flying sperm won.
>>49938552I'm not going to scream and shout RIGGED RIGGED, but even with the change to vote weightings, Koishi is slightly abover average this year.
>>49938552It could be because very few people put the protagonists in first place. The more power the first vote has, the lower Reimu and Marisa rank.
>>49938532Damn
>>49938295That's probably not directly related to the game, but rather because that is a) a longer time period than the other sections (1.5 years instead of 1 year) and b) that time period coincided with the lockdowns when a lot of games and other online things received boosts in popularity because of people being stuck at home.
>>49938295Of course, because you are only allowed to play the last game to come out!
>>49936704But KKHTA is actual dog shit?
>>49938743t. chinless contrarian
My favorite is still top ten? of course I have excellent taste
>>49936950There's no way in hell ZUN has Flan in 4th when the guy spent like a decade ignoring her.
>>49938875KKHTA is just Tails Gets Trolled but with zero self awareness.
>>49938552>>49938573All this is showing is that Koishi fans are more dedicated. The rest just have points from 2nd place and below votes.
I think any touhou below 20th should get canonically killed.
>>49936904Dumbass, super-gropeable gep heg...
>>49938906And that's bad how? TGT is absolut KINEMA
>>49938912Tenshi bros...
>>49938906It's stupid and edgy but I liked how it developed genuine pathos as it went. It's an interesting little series even if nothing about it is what I imagine or want from Touhou.
>>49938906It's shit but I give it props for some drawing and cinematic angles most artists are too cowardly to try
>>49936781Kyouko110thBut thats ok, i'd still love her even if i was the only one.
So which 2hu used bots this time?
>>49937044It's not fucked up though, look closer. The only thing that seems wrong is it only has 3 dots on the bottom, but otherwise, all the strokes are there.
>>49939000Koishi
If you truly loved your 2hu, you'd get her to number 1 no matter the cost.
>>49939000Cirno
>>49939084>twoth>threeth
>>49939042If we used bots, we would have directly muscled in on the 9th. Stuff like Hero of Ice Fairy (which also recently had DLC which promoted Koishi) keeps Cirno in peoples' concious, plus things like the LW skin and new FUMO.
>>49939123Koishi's hair got improved too, nice.
>>49939123>firth
>>49939123>1thGrim
>>49939123It's "1th" because it's muffled from all the hamburger meat, yeah?
Koishibros we need to go back to school...
>>49939123Change your name to 103th
I love you Koishi bro, never change.
>>49939159We will gain more voters that way.
>>49939123oh come on the "1th" is fully in character
>>49938295I was always a wbawc believer
>>49936841Keep up the good fight
Don't work and draw at the same time kids.>>49938248There you go.
>>49939214>2thYou ruined it again
>>49939214>burger kino
>>49939214She is going to murder someone with that gohei
>>49939209I'll never stop!>>49939214I actually really liked 1th and thought it was intentional.
>>49938894I mean if you ask anyone, they would predict Flandre at that range AT LEAST
>>49939214Really great, thanks.
>>49939269OK are these his predictions or his favorites? Either one is nutty for different reasons.
>>49939324No, he was just asked to guess what would be top 10 this year
>>49939328Okina and Hecatia are some fucking off cuff answer then, especially when he didn't include Sakuya or Youmu. He's gotta be trolling at least a little.>>49937666>>49937689Gensokyo the Gods Loved is overrated as hell but Idolatrize World absolutely deserves it.
>>49939366You are actually stupid if you think ZUN actually was seriously guess lol
>>49939328Then it's pretty good considering how insulated he tries to be>Reimu: 1 -> 3>Marisa: 2 -> 2>Hecatia: 3 -> 33 lmao>Flan: 4 -> 4>Koishi: 5 -> 1>Remilia: 6 -> 6>Okina: 7 -> 43 my #1 but what the fuck were you thinking head priest>Eirin: 8 -> 28, but this is a massive outlier as she's usually in the 50s>Cirno: 9 -> 10>Nareko: 10 -> 60
>>49939375>if you think ZUN actually was seriously guessI just said he had to be trolling.
>>49939393>>49939379Ya know, it is possible that ZUN actually was having a lot of hope in the fanbase actually being able to change up the ranking in any meaningful way, except that is not how it work...
>>49939402Cirno breaking it to the top 10 is a pretty recent development.
>>49937506>7 must be a rib for the 7 stars of the big dipper. Source : Hokuto no Ken.Oh yeah, Reimu's ability is based on Kenshiro's musou tensei. Maybe it's all an elaborate reference.
>>49938894Flan has been all over his recent works though
>>49939379only after sending this did I realize a ton of these ARE jokes/punsHecatia because three bodies, Flan because [Four of a Kind], Okina with the seven stars, Eirin because she has a kanji 八 (should have gone for Yukari maybe), Cirno self-explanatoryI bet others are as well but I can't figure them out
>>49939426oh it's because Remi is the 6th boss in the 6th game you fucking cunt
>>49939424Toby threatened to stop letting him gap his tight whiteboy asshole if he didn't start adding Flan to things.
>>49939424>>49939488Flan already left CDS more than a year ago bro
>>49939379I started writing a big response to this questioning his choices, and then >>49939426 made me realize that he was just shitposting. Thanks, ZUN.
>>49937506>Marisa jobbingThe only thing that scene showed was that she could tank getting punched through a tree while Reimu in the same manga has been knocked out by single punches when she isn't relying on haxo-no-jutsu like an Isekai protagonist using their cheat ability.
>>49937666It deserves to be higher. It's at least in the top 5, personally it's my favourite, but that's just me.
Now we need to commission more rape works for Koishi to humble her.
we were literally one vote off an aki sandwich
Why is the previous miko a voting option?
>>49939666Because she showed up in CDS.
>>49939426Koishi being number 5 is because of the name, the same reason why Koishi Day is 5/14.
>>49939666everyone means everyoneIwakasa having half the votes of Konohana-Sakuya is why coomers deserve the Mariana Trench
>>49939666she's got a real appearance now, so she's not just speculation and a fan character anymore
>>49939698Why the fuck do they include these names or fucking shit like "Sendai Shiro" that aren't even Touhou characters?
>>49939817because they had their cameos in Touhou (in print materials in case of all four, Sendai Shiro in Kasen's manga and the other three in CiLR)
>>49937099He said the opposite.
>>49939666that's like asking why Fortune Teller is an option
Animal spirits are literally qualified to be a Touhou character btw
>>49936924https://x.com/Jericho8000BC/status/1961702976919355546
>>49939948Wow even touhou characters are qualified to be touhou characters?
>>49939948I want to launch an otter spirit into the sun.
Grim fate for th19 girlsAside from Hisami, Chiyari and maybe Zanmu they got forgotten pretty quickly
>>49940065I haven't forgotten about Biten
>>49939214>>49939123>>49939084Haha
>>49940065Enoko was never popular and Zanmu’s response was incredibly lukewarm. She’s probably the least popular final boss and doesn’t have her theme elevating her like Keiki does.
>>49940065>>49940160I don't remember a single track from th19
>>49940160I like Zanmu and her theme...
So I must admit I've never really given the dual screen games that much attention, did the others have anywhere near the hiccups 19 did? What is it 19 messed up so hard compared to the others?
>>49940261If the PC-98 era were more popular or at least easier to play legitimately in Japan then 3 might get into a controversy over stolen code and plagarized/traced over artwork but 3 also makes up for that by being fun to pick up and play along with having a fun cast and great music which aren't things that can really be said about 19. 9 is a fine game. Probably tighter mechanically than 3 though it's fairly bland on most levels to me. I know most people consider 9 the best of the vs games though.I don't completely dislike 19 (Hisami's design is cool, most of the returning characters are great) but the gameplay changes didn't sit right with me and the game suffered from being launched in a poor state. Updates came to fix a lot of issues but the damage was probably already done for most people.
>>49936950
>>49940261Outside of Okina, HSiFS did not have much in the way of popular characters since it released. Aunn kind of crawled up there a bit though.
>>49940261As someone who doesn't like phantasmagoria formula in general, 19 was the only one of the 3 I was able to stomach for more than a few hours so my take is very biased and lacking from the perspective of PoDD and PoFV. The gameplay is kind of a mix between the PoFV-style and the main danmaku style of the other mainline entries, which can be hit or miss depending on your preferences. It was servicable for me. Other than that, I liked the cast, the new 2hu themes, and the main draw for me was how the overall plot developed from character to character. It gave this sense of overarching mystery which hooked you in and made you want to keep playing even if you didn't enjoy the specific character whose route you were doing. I'd consider this the most story-heavy 2hu mainline game.That said, it's still a deeply flawed game and very evidently rushed out. There is no extra stage. The network option for pvp was very scuffed or non-existent. I don't care about that part but for some people it's a huge part of the appeal of PoFV. Some 2hus like Chiyari are so unbalanced you can beat the game on Lunatic with her without knowing what you're doing (and because of this, she's absolute torture to play against). Once you experience the main story to the end (all character routes), you're basically done with the game. It's one of the few 2hu games I feel like I have no reason to ever revisit and play further.
>>49939101>>49939145>>49939148>>49939154>>49939185>>49939216>>49939225Reminds me of that Hecatia comic with the guy calling her clothes weird so she strips to prove him wrong
>>4994026119 was very rushed
>>49936781Kasen45th
>>49936678damn, I wasted everything on chiyari stocks...who the hell is easy person?
>>49940617the fortune teller
>>49940341>>49940405>>49940508Well, I suppose nice to hear updates seem to have helped 19 a bit. Since I do want to get around to it eventually, even with its rocky reputation. Shame it seems like it's production cycle is to blame though. Especially given it was the end of a multi-game arc.
>>49936781>>27she fell a few spots but I still love her no matter what.
>>49940169>I don't remember a single track from th19Biten's theme is genuinely one of the best musical tracks of the modern era and there were a few good mixes, but otherwise it's pretty mediocre yeah.
>>49940405Don't listen to him I just played the game and it's just grape girl having lesbian sex with the oni girl.
>>49937939The not played statistics are only slightly higher than last years and the year before that, if you wanna see the actual jump in statistics I think 2018 -> 2019 was the year when it went from 20% have never played EoSD to like 30% for some reason. I'd blame the gacha but apparently it's not charting so that might not be it. Alternatively, blame bots.That being said, this knowledge doesn't make me despair. If anything I feel hope. Kids getting into Touhou is the only way Touhou will be kept alive in 10, 15, 20 years. I should know, I was one of those secondary kids and now I'm in my 30's with a 1CC on hard for every game and Lunatic for most games over the years. We're all getting older and while I imagine /jp/'s much worse off than the average japanese Touhou fan in terms of life expectancy, the fact's don't change that as we all get older and older plenty lose not just the fiery passion but even the embers of passion over the years, if not their lives outright. We can all gather around and talk about how kids are fucking stupid and secondaries and gacha are some of the worst things to ever happen to this series, but at the end of the day they're just increasing the odds that this series might actually live to see 2100 if we even get there and not just be treated as some semi-obscure thing that shouldn't be obscure like Gunbuster is nowadays. Because that's how the passage of time works in regards to any form of media, and the only thing that brings it forward is the youth.Who knows, maybe we'll see a second Golden Age for fangames before I'm dead.
I can't believe Koishi got ballot stuffed to first place AGAIN.
>>49938044>Is there any other franchise you guys know of where it's the older parts of the fanbase that consume the new stuff while the newcomers & the young consume the old stuff?Every academic discipline.
>>49936781Alice14thIt's good. She isn't going anywhere. But it's worse than the last two years. Who did she get bested by? Two titty monsters and Aya who admittedly deserves it because of her good manga appearances.
>>499412292100?
>>49941295The year, presumably.
>>49936781Joon-74Shion-34
Kingdam of Nothingness got kicked back to 100+ place, these secondaries have no taste
>>49936781I voted for Reimu first and Zanmu second and Zanmu is 103 this timeIt's a bit funny how Kokoro is the most popular newhu
>>49941353>Kokoro>newhuAnon, her game is from 2013, it's been 12 years...
>>49941353At what point is she not a newhu though? Hopeless Masquerade is turning 12 this year. I get it though... she still feels "new" to me too.
Once a new game is released, all newhus from the last game stop being newhus; only 2hus from the previous released game are newhus.
>>49941351Kingdam of Nothingness is a very middling final boss theme. I feel like people latched on to it because they were desperate to find something good in such a terrible game.
>>49941358>>49941363I forgot she existed, which officially makes her an old enough hu to me.Granted I never really liked the character.
>>49941372https://youtu.be/9iy_TSF-lkU?si=2ZQUja5rSae3dlofThe theme is Hard carried by this guy, he managed to brought out the best potential of it
>>49941372It was my no.1 music pick. Love the atmosphere it gives with the mongolian cries. >>49941403This completely kills these aforementioned qualities but i'm not a remix person in general. Never are sacrifices for the sake of "musicality" worth if it destroys the meaning and intent of the song. That's why even the worst of ZUN is a shining ruby in comparison to the absolute garbage some of the official fighting games have had for remixes, particularly ULiL & AoCF
>>49941353>>49941358>>49941363>>49941374Junko is the highest "newhu" with a decade on her.The real highest "newhu" is Iizunamaru with just 2 years on her.
Just call any 2hu released in the second half of the franchises age a newhu, this way you get to bully anyone who debuted after 2010.
Most people probably feel like any 2hu released after they started paying attention to the series is a newhu.
>>49939513Hey at least he has Hecatia on his mind
>>49938906It's Cookie tier tertiary works but that doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed as such.
>>49941372It uses a very similar melody to a part of Chimata’s theme and I could never really listen to it without thinking of it. It’s an okay boss theme but disappointing for a Touhou final boss theme.
it is happening again.
>>49936950lmao he really thought Crapreko would win after revealing she's ironic AI slop.
>>49938263Got busy yesterday and couldn't finish it.
>>49944083Thanks! I didn't expect you to do all of them. It's perfect.
>>49944073So, no one told you?
>>49941372it's basically chimata's theme but not garbage
>>49944197Chimata’s theme sounds weaker but has better composition and actually makes me feel something. Zanmu’s theme just sounds like a boss theme. It lacks the emotion expected of it.
>>49944293zanmu's theme makes me think "i have the power to kill you easily but i'm not going to do it because i have other things to do. go away"chimata's theme makes me think "i'm only fighting you out of obligation because i'm the final boss"
>>49944197dogshit taste
>>49944391sorry man i just don't like how empty it sounds
Chimata's team is awesome, but I suppose most final boss themes that aren't 100% energy all the time and have more complexity, depth and build up are generally not fan favorites by any means. But I personally think the part from 2:36 to 3:21 approximately is one of ZUN's greatest musical feats ever in 2hu music history.
>>49944430>I suppose most final boss themes that aren't 100% energy all the time and have more complexity, depth and build up are generally not fan favorites by any means.?
>>49944197Actual shit taste.
>>49944442Perhaps 100% all the time is the wrong way to put it, but rather Border Of Life gives it's main hook that most people have the most affinity towards (arguably) in the first 50 seconds of the song and it's a very powerful statement to begin the song with.
>>49944442Bro, Yuyuko's theme has a lot of power, not counting her last wish.It just that sometimes it loops back to the calm part of the theme as a build-up.
Border of Life has too much zunpet
>>49944430it's less about how quiet it gets and more that zun didn't use enough instruments. the composition is perfectly fine, it just needs flourish. i didn't know when the climax was until the outro. that should not happen with touhou musicalso, that passive aggressive bit about depth and buildup applies to most final boss songs
>>49944542>i didn't know when the climax was until the outroIf you say things like that you're just going to out yourself as a musically illiterate retard.
>>49944548it's not my fault the buildup was only two measures. zun should have done more than the bare minimum
I like the staff roll of UM more than Chimata's theme, I think it encapsulates all the parts of it that I enjoy.
I didn’t like Chimata’s theme at all at first but I listened to it a lot while going for a walk at sunset with a rainbow in the sky and it clicked right there and then for me. Maybe she blessed me herself, but I do believe it is one of ZUN’s strongest and most emotional compositions. It’s a lovely song.
>>49936781Eirin28th this year, previously 37th, before that 53rd.>Resurrection "Game of Rising"
>>49945514What happened? that's quite the surge.
>>49945557I wanted to say it's the new tasukete eirin, but it's already been a year since that came out.
>>49945557All thanks to Beat Mario with Help Me Eirin and his tireless campaigning.https://x.com/beatmario/status/1959179584789688413
>>49945587>>49945598Understood, now I will dedicate this night to her.
They should host an unpopularity poll to see who is the most disliked 2hu.
>>49945760Koishi would probably still win it, just from the votes of butthurt weens not happy about her taking 1st place
>>49945760Finally, a poll Reimu can win.
>>49945760Your favorite would win
>>49945770KOISHI NUMBER ONE!!!!JAJAJAJAJAJAJA!!!!!!!!
>>49945849>not "Koishi numero uno"One job
>>49945938>not "uno trabalho"
>>49936704>the year it comes backholy shit, WHAT
>>49946214No lol it’s not coming out in a year at least, the artist only confirmed that the last episode is 50% done
>>49936605I think my Miji is 30 but I'm struggling with these translations, by god
The Hong is rising.
