What does /jp/ think about the state of western 2hu youtube?
>>49946471I ignore it.
Is there even anyone still regularly making 2hu videos that aren't <1min jokes/animations?
>>49946483Same. I think it's been two years since the last time I saw something about a 2hu youtuber
>>49946471Did something happen?
>>49946530No, I was just curious
>>49946494There are still MMD guys making stuff and dozens of yukkuri channels but if you meant on the west i can only think of>>49946471 's essays and the soku tournaments
>>49946471Kaguya rapes Mokou
>>49946530No, OP is just a ween trying to rile up people into being his personal army.
I have literally never interacted with it in any capacity since 2010 back when it was just replays and arrangers like kkcwkoh I think their name was. >>49946640That or he's expecting a meltdown from the /v/ raiders somehow allowed to still live on this board. I feel like if he wanted that he should make a fourth or fifth thread about Toby Fox, though.
>>49946640>>49946656I just thought it was a good thread idea ;_;
>>49946666Well, it wasn't. Try again next time.
>>49946471There's only some decent mmd and drawfags left who mostly do skits. Other that I entirely ignore them as they tend to be gay retards even gayer than the retards here
>>49946666Nice try ween, if you were genuine you'd have posted a screencap of any of the many western-made Touhou animations instead of the pfp of a barely relevant streamer. No "epic lols" 4 u today.
>>49946936Stop saying ween it makes you painfully easy to recognize
>>49946939ween ween ween
>>49946471The unthoughts Discord filler characters groomed by three letters agencies retards spout. >>49946483Ewtube only use is PVs of touhou songs
>>49946471I think they are a nostalgic reminder of the Newgrounds era.
>>49946471This guy has some nice videos here and there like the PCB scoring history one or the useless trivia oneI don't really care for his secondary gaming channel but he sometimes showcases nice fangames there
There are some interesting channels. They are of very gentle demeanor and don't really make it about themselves - very Japanese ethos.
I think it's so weird how popular lore videos are on youtube, yet so few people do Touhou lore. What gives?
>>49947174Most lorefags are too lazy to go look up actual myths and folklore, they just want to make shit up about Zanzibart's placeholder name they found while datamining and think of themselves as geniuses
I don't think i've ever even seen a single western 2hu video. Theres something deeply sickening about hearing japanese names come out of an american (or worse british) accent that makes me avoid them entirely.
>>49947174I feel like anyone competent enough to understand the lore on a non secondary level is probably also not the type to be able to compose themselves properly into comprehensive video form. It takes a certain level of presentation and charisma to get things across without it just being someone rambling for a video's length.Lorefags for other franchises feel disingenuous anyways. Like they just try and find their corner to try and monopolize it, or you have cases like a certain soulsfag where they just steal all the work from elsewhere and present it as their own when they start trying to speculate.
>>49946471Is there anything good at all? Like the only thing I keep seeing are some shitty meme channels and stuff like "a REAL triangle player reacts to 2hu music".
>>49946471The gameplay challenge videos this guy has done are alright. Otherwise I only really watch Jaimers' gameplay videos when they pop up, and despite not being a 2hu youtuber exclusively, I sometimes use this video as background noise because he has a pleasant neutral voice and doesn't try to be funny, just very straight to the point. So many western 2hu fans are autistic perverted nerds and that doesn't make for compelling videos you wanna watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Zg2XfHGT0
I dont watch any of them
>>49947174https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bct1phaYgcAThere's a not-minor overlap between 40kiddies and Touhou. Weird the only channel with any crossover of the content is the fucking music one.
>>49946471it's aight
>>49947212Wait they actually talk in the videos? They don't just skip the voices?
>>49946471I did come across a narrated fan story about Sakuya being Jack the ripper and meeting the scarlet devil mansion.
>>49946471I miss the zoomer Catapu1t
>>49946471I ignore everything except basically people that make OC and even then it has to be at least decent, some MMD/SFM stuff qualifies
>>49946471I don't know but I'm into western 2hu drawfags nowi ignore those who put pronouns in the bio i'm not into entertaining that sick shit
>>49946471Pretty shit, it's either idpol or attention whores. I have a soft spot for Compact Youmu but that's really it. MTB is legendary too but he's Indonesian so I wouldn't quite call him western
>>49950490I feel like western is more presentation than geography is at this point, but that's still a fair assessment. MTB reminds me of older JP MMD/MMD shitposts in a way. Feels like people in the west making content usually just, don't understand what works half the time? I'm not quite sure how to put it, but it feels like there's some kind of disconnect going on. At least for people actively trying. I'm content with just ignoring the first two parties you mentioned. Especially when they somehow push the boundary into looking like tertiaries, which I really didn't think was possible until witnessing it myself.
>>49947174https://youtube.com/@gensouchronicleThis guy actually goes into the mythological basis for the characters and setting, his thumbnails are clickbait but the content is pretty good
>>49950546Western is just anyone who isn't a nip, chinese, or korean.Also, what would you call tertiary? Secondary works are derivative from the mainline games, are tertiary works derivative from secondary works?
>>49949202Oh hey, stringstormI first got into touhou because of his shinmy song
>>49951166I sadly know some people that are into things like fumos, but don't even listen to the music, arrangements, engage with any kind of doujin content and are clearly just in it for the fumo trend. Not even the fact it's Touhou, but the fumos specifically, I doubt they could name more than 5 characters. It's so bizarre to me. You would think they would be a gateway into the franchise thing, not a point some people stop at. Funnily they're also the politically vocal types. I'd also consider late 2010's Momiji posters tertiaries on that topic, but mainly to just outright insult them, but also because it was clear after a point she was just being spread around as some random anime girl to half the people posting her.
>>49946471>>49946471I am going to be honest, I wish there were good 2hu western channels. That partake in the lore properly and explain things and even sometimes make non-biased tier list. But channels like GensokyoChronicle are bad at lore, even Redditors admit it.The unique good channels I have found where on the Spanish side (Learning Spanish paid-off) From a channel called "Ayavami", "Ayanami" or something like that which had a pleasant way of narrating the lore of the 2hus, the unique problem was that he was outdated.
>>49951252>spoiled textI find it strange how Momiji of all characters in a franchise full of blonde psychos was the character to be associated with MAGA. Is something that always made me wonder how the hell right-wingers find their symbology. I mean, if they selected a character like Maribel that is aryan it would visually make sense and the same amount of sense as taking Momiji. I mean, it makes the makes the same amount of nonsense.
>>49947081newfag
>>49951558Maribel is greek
>>49946471The only Touhou youtube videos worth watching are the musical ones and the "All bosses no damage" videos. Anything else is garbage.
>>49951655I know but can someone explain to me how did Momiji become a MAGA symbol? And also, why some Touhou fans happen to be Nazis? I have found a good chunk of Touhou fans who post antisemitic stuff or things like save Europe. Why would they be fans of of a franchise so innocent?
>>49951666You need to be 18 to post on this site, Satan
>>49951683Please forgive me if I sound like a newfag. And yes I know Touhou is not innocent. But please answer my question Anon-kun
>>49951692Best answer I can give is '4chan: no sense of Right and Wrong'
>>49951706In the last days I thought 4chan was more of a mix of right and left, but for some reason some are apolitical.
>>49951723newfriend........
>>49951725AAAAAAAAAAAAAI am sorry okay!! I am not well-versed in the lore of internet! I only use this page to discuss random stuff and post Touhou Project memes!!
>>49950490>MTB is legendary too but he's Indonesian so I wouldn't quite call him westernI don't like people hating on MTB because his fanbase happen to be western secondaries, he just seems like a guy who likes making Touhou MMD's. Besides being Asian.
>>49951666My first encounter with Touhou was through a neo-Nazi on the History Channel IRC long before there was a jay. He was actually really interesting. He was an artist and client side hacker who drew images of 1000 year Reich Reimu. Not nazi chic style but more traditional. I wish I had saved those. How is hell this time of year?
>>49951789Read this.Now, in my personal experience, I remember entering a Hava Nagila music video (you know perfectly what happens in those comment sections) and at least two or three had 2hu pfps. And something similar to this pic also happened to me. There is genuinely a link with weebs and nazism, and I have seen it in other media as well.
>>49951855>There is genuinely a link with weebs and nazism, and I have seen it in other media as wellIt's called autism
>>49951666>Why would they be fans of of a franchise so innocent?>innocent
>>49946471What happened?
>>49951655Hearn isn't a Greek name.
>>49951666>MomijiWhite Wolf Border Patrol Guard. But coincidences aside, the only real reason was that she's a cute kemono girl with a red hat.>NazisFirst time? Jews have been universally hated from the beginning of time (for good reason) so this isn't any different.>InnocentSummer already ended bucko
>>49951666"Why do people who hold to an aestheticist, traditionalist ideology like an aestheticist, traditionalist franchise?"
>>49949171that video is fucking stupid, for some wack reason he excludes youmu from being part of TD & WBaWC for either no reason or over blatantly made up nonsense
>>49951666Are we serious right now? Has /jp/ been infiltrated by thin skinned children that calls anyone remotely edgy a nazi? I thought we only see these kind of people on twitter and tumblr
>>49950490i love this guy it reminds me of tamers12345 if he wasn't a bronyfag and didnt have a butt fetish
>>49953315>butt fetish???
Megapig and suwawako guy are giant faggots, perldrop used to do cool sprite animations but became the most unfunny fag alive around 2020-21, its grim. All grim.
>>49953709yea
>>49953709>suwawako guy are giant faggotsThe switch up he did after he's teto video blew up... i mean at least he is bothering another fandom
They're alright on the gameplay side. Mino's channel is really great all around, and Yatsu has some good videos as well.
>>49953299But I'm an unironic NAZI, a FASCIST
>>49954080Cool can you post your best music videos and remixes of German music?
>>49954257Not exactly German music but this still slaps https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=9AaO5s_GOCI
>>49951558A lot of it is that there was the "awoo" meme with any old anime wolfgirl back in the day, then they corrupted the MAGA """""movement""""" with the rhyme "awoovement", which is how it became associated with Momiji
>>49953755He made an excellent video on Cookie but since he got ~20k subs his ego is obscenely large for an E list Youtuber
>>49952774>aestheticist, traditionalist franchiseEvery time I think to myself "/pol/fags can't be THAT retarded" they just go and prove that they're actually even more retarded than previously thought.
>>49954385This post hurts to read.
>>49954344Thank you anon but now in a list. Well, I have been in a list since ever but now I might be reframed as a naziBesides :D I also like behemoth (the muaic artist) I found about him thanks to perturbator, I find it weird that these guys have Satanic symbology so often hehe
>>49954403Nta, but how would you define touhou project then?
>>49954403I'd laugh if I didn't have to share a website with these faggots.
>>49954412Not buzzword salad, that's for sure. I don't need to provide an alternative to call someone's retarded definition what it is, but I'll do it anyway. "Japanese-themed Danmaku game." It's not a be-all end-all but it's fairly accurate without projecting my own mental illness onto it.
>>49954403Nice counterargument!So do you think Touhou promotes social modernization and virtue ethics? That actually makes a lot of sense considering how positively it portrays the future, how little thought is given to Japanese tradition, or how the whole franchise is not built around a collection of aesthetics essays based around Japanese legends.
>>49954449>blah blah blah I'm retareded blah blah blah please pay attention to meI don't argue with sped kids, sorry. Go be gay and retarded at someone who cares :P
>>49954463Who are you quoting?
>>49954463I feel bad for him man I think he was just enthusiastic
>>49954434Every word is a buzzword to you, you lack abstract thought.
>>49951666Because Momiji had the unfortunate triad of a wolf with a red white color scheme with a red hat.So she was immediately coopted by magaturds and awooturds.Combine that with their unironic sincerity and crusade mentality (Hmm where have I seen that before?) and you get the current disaster.
>>49954815>with a red white color scheme with a red hatReimu Hakurei Hentai Nazi edition when
>>49946471I ignore it. The entire western (non-Jap/Chink/Gook) Touhou community is fucking aids.This very thread devolving into off-topic is an example of this as well.>youtubeEvery video essay grifter I found is a secondary who doesn't have a single 1cc (if they do then they're inconsistent or not able to follow-up in the other games reliably) OR a lorelet fixated on memes and headcanon theories instead of canon.
>>49954869Anon you've very blatantly a secondary who knows nothing about the Japanese Touhou community.
>>49954892I somewhat hate how /jp/ and the western "cultured" fandom of touhou in general worships the Japanese fandom like if they were the only true fans. Not only japs ALSO do not play the games, but they are the most degenerate of the bunch. If that wete not enough, you have to remember that beatmario is on the Japanese side and his song Help me Erin attracted a lot of secondaries in both Japan and the West. Besides that is in Japan were they took the decision to promote Touhou to children. The thing that made the Japanese fandom so good was the doujin music, fan arts, fangames, etc. And that good but I feel like it is a lost age.
>>49954908Japanese fans don't blame the games at a much higher rate than you'll see in any other area. They also have plenty of fooling around, mischaracterization, and their own problems like ZUN worship, anti-piracy to the point of knowing nothing about the older games because screenshots are piracy, how they view characters as people and are really touchy if you do anything questionable to them, and more. Japan's main plus is the output of fan content they make but I bet most /jp/sies who are ardently anti-not-Japanese would hate actually talking to your average Japanese Touhou fan.
>>49954908He's retarded for thinking the nips aren't secondaries, but he is right about> This very thread devolving into off-topic is an example of this as wellThere are few places in the western fandom where you can have Touhou discussion without things derailing into culture war faggotry.
>>49954920>how they view characters as people and are really touchy if you do anything questionable to them, and moreThis is the most RETARDED crap I have ever seen. Every Touhou character is my onahole, they are made solely to take my cock. They worth for FUCKING NOTHING.>PiracyI knew they were anti piracy but not knowing about the past games is insane. And the irony is that the Western Touhou fandom puts in a pedestal 1ccing all the games.If this is how the Japanese fandom is, from where comes this utopic idea of the western fandom of them?
>>49954931fuck off ESL
>>49954940Kill yourself burger-eating motherfucker
>>49951666>become a MAGA symbol?2016 meme culture that has been bled to death by /ptg/ eglin glowies that don't even know her name and call her "awoo".>And also, why some Touhou fans happen to be Nazis?judaism is a mental illness>I have found a good chunk of Touhou fans who post antisemitic stuff or things like save Europe. because they will do anything but have sex with a white woman, many such cases (yes i know immigration is a problem but that doesn't negate my point).>Why would they be fans of of a franchise so innocent?autism>>49953299zoomerGODS are taking over
>>49954963nobody wants you here unintelligible redditspacing monkey
Great things happening in this thread
>>49954920>They also have plenty of fooling around, mischaracterizationThat's putting it lightly. While the nips do have an absurd level of throughput compared to the west, making it relatively easy to find content to actually enjoy, there's also just as much trash to filter through as well. Especially when these problematics nips are the reason you get problematic secondaries in the west, since for some reason they're the ones that get content translated or posted around constantly. Some of the bizarre shit like the pairings they force is just surreal at times.
>>49946471Half abysmal, half surprisingly goodOP is fine. He's a primary who barely indulges fanon
>>49954449You have no idea what you're talking about.Gensokyo isn't a traditionalist paradise. It's a place where an elect few (the youkai) tend to their farm (the human village) while they wait for outside world conditions to change so can they reinvade.ZUN even made a mockery of you fags with Alternative Facts in Eastern Utopia.
>>49955103...and the humans are suffering from the lack of dishwashers? Yes yes grandpa, back to bed
>>49954408It hurt just as much to type out
>>49955103Bold of you to assume they read.
I miss Koischizo...
>>49955103Never change, grimnigger
>>49954892OP's question was about the western community, not the Japanese one, and I've answered it as such and I've worded it as such as well.Did you really think I didn't consider how bad the Japanese community gets?
Oh God. This entire thread not only reeks of newfags, it seems like many here were born after 2008... Now that I stop to think about it, these people are almost old enough to fuck, what the hell.
>>49957233You say that and then post one of the most secondary pics of the last few years. Curious
Tenna
kuso thread.
>>49957233So you want to fuck them?
>>49957590Don't have heroes in the first placeEither kill yourself or back to /v/hu with you
>>49957600Oh I thought this was /v/hu from all the shitposting I saw, my bad. Carry on.
>>49946940Ocean man
>>49957693yeah they tend to bleed out their thread when they smell shitpostingSomething something you'll eventually be surrounded by actual morons who think they're in good company
Holy meirabroken
See what I mean?
>>49955103Hello Grimsokyo tard.
>/v/ fags yuricucks and newfags all aroundgrim.
>>49955103>It's a place where an elect few (the youkai) tend to their farm (the human village) while they wait for outside world conditions to change so can they reinvade.So, traditionalism.
>>49959809You shouldn't call others newfag while misusing the quote function.
>>49950568I hope he covers the pc98 designs and inspirations lore soon, I've been looking forward to that one a lot
>>49946471This guy is alright, he's decently knowledgeable about lore, isn't obnoxiously unfunny and is pretty chill.
>>49958111MeiraWARPED you.
>>49959809Post yuri!
