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This thread is for discussing Japanese internet culture and websites which have greatly influenced otaku culture (such as 2ch, Futaba Channel, etc)

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I forgot about the thread title. Kill me.
Anyways, I was searching for the earliest mentions of 4chan in the 2ch archives and found a 2004 /b/ raid.
https://kako.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1101642131/
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What's the Japanese equivalent of Wojak, which is to say funny little picture that people depict others who have opinions they don't agree with as?
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>>50088047
It depends on who they want to mock, I don’t think there’s a standard model.
If they want to mock an otaku, they will use the chigyu.
If they want to mock a random troll on Futaba, they will use picrel character.
On 2ch, they used stupid looking ASCII characters, etc
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>>50088031
I went looking for threads about 4chan on futaba after the hack and it looked like the only thing some of them knew this place for was being a racist incel terrorist website. To which some of them said "isn't that just like our site".
I wish I actually archived that thread. The only site I can find that has archives that go back more than a couple days is paywalled,
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>>50088047
japanese equivalent of wojak is the basedjak
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Young hiro talking about 2ch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbo5rODUg6c
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>>50071942
https://nyaa.si/view/1623701
There was a group that ripped anime blurays in the name of koushinism but they eventually got jailed for something unrelated
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https://krsw-wiki.in/wiki/Main_Page
Some information in english about karasawa
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>>50089395
>they eventually got jailed for something unrelated
do you know why they were arrested?
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>>50091460
https://web.archive.org/web/20230823023624/https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASR8Q6TZCR88UTIL011.html
Bomb threats. Uncomfirmed, but it's around time they stopped releasing.
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>>50088402
the saddest thing about futaba is the fact that it has no archives. imagine how much history has been lost.
i found a 2008 2ch thread on 4chan with both japanese and americans participating
this one is pretty interesting
https://kako.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/dejima/1216779563/
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>>50092067
i seriously wonder how someone reaches that level, especially in japanese society where obeying laws and being collectivist is sacred.
either mental illness, awful childhood or both
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>>50092213
>the saddest thing about futaba is the fact that it has no archives. imagine how much history has been lost.
There's definitely stuff out there: https://tsumanne.net/
I actually disagree though. Much of the magic around imageboards initially, intentionally or not, was hosting fleeting conversations without a complete record. It creates sort of a folklore around events. Events and timelines end up lost this way, but it also creates a culture of saving what matters and passing it around organically. I'm fairly sure you can find posts from Moot in some of his Q&As where he said automatic archivers beyond selective archives like 4chanarchive changed the nature of the site and exacerbated trends like generals.
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>>50092283
I honestly completely understand your point, it's true
I also think there’s the fact that when there are no archives, we are technically more anonymous. Not that the archives reveal our identity, but everything we say is stored there, everything we delete, everything. It’s even possible to search for posts with specific images we post.
But at the same time, I can’t deny that for emotional reasons, I think very old archives from both Futaba and 4chan (the first three or two years of each) would be amazing. It would be like a time capsule. Of course, we know about the big moments from that time, but for me it’s more about seeing a typical thread from that era, cultural differences compared to today, etc.
It’s more of an emotional thing for me that I would find incredible.
By the way, thank you very much for this site, I’ll take a look later
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>>50092540
>It would be like a time capsule.
I think the sage.moe archives for example are a good proof of that, which only exist because someone decided to upload a huge batch of old scraped threads to the IA in 2018. Automatic archives make everything indexed and searchable immediately, while I think ten years is a good breathing room to consider something a historical record online. It's undoubtedly impossible to enforce and not why most people use archives, but if I were running an auto archive for an altchan or something, delaying the public archive is an approach I'd probably entertain . Maybe not at a delay of ten years, but one year or even a month would keep some of the "you had to be there" energy alive.
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What is this noise about mebukich, is it an actual public board or just how the exodusfags/schizos are calling their D*scord server?
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https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRSWLocker
Karasawa-themed ransomware. Author also got arrested and now became some security blogger https://xcancel.com/cheenanet
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this OP is kind of obscure, had a bit of trouble finding it, hope it keeps busy and doesn't fall off

good general to have on here
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>>50092540
on a side note, I wish Japanese were more into torrents, at least for archival purposes, I realize the laws there and the culture probably make it why it is, but it is sad to think of all of the stuff that disappears never to be found again.... even youtube videos that I used to count on being on youtube forever sometimes get deleted and gone forever
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>>50088020
The creator of Akita Neru (yes the vocaloid) is a frequent poster on this one altchan and recently answered a question about how 2ch is seen in Japan these days
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>>50092628
sage.moe is my favorite archive precisely because of that
It’s like a museum
even if it’s not possible to view the images, it’s amazing that we can still see what people were talking about, how they acted, how much everything has changed, it’s honestly incredible
I also think your archiving idea is good
>>50095858
Unfortunately, I forgot to put a title on the thread. On the first attempt to create it, there was a title, but an error appeared when I tried to post it, and on the second attempt I completely forgot.
I apologize, if you and others on this thread think we need a new thread after the eventual archiving of this one, I promise it won’t happen again.
And well, even though this isn’t as active as the idols, JAV, hololive, or some Touhou threads, I think we can still have good conversations, even if at a slower pace.
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>>50096094
holy shit this is actually amazing
i never expected someone this important to otaku culture to be casually interacting on a chan with regular people these days. though by checking his other social media, he seems to actually interact with fans pretty often, which is quite surprising.
anyways, it’s interesting how many of his points can be applied worldwide in a way, people got into social media and abandoned BBS all over the world.
but it’s still interesting how much influence 2ch has lost considering it was one of japan’s biggest websites. it makes sense when you consider all the drama between its ownership and mods, people migrating to SNS like twitter, etc, but it still had so much influence that you’d expect people to be talking about it more and visiting it from time to time. yahoo, for example, is still kinda popular in japan (especially with older people) because of how early they entered and adapted to the japanese market, despite there being many other modern options.
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Nice to know they have these type of images as well
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>>50092678
it is a new Futaba like anon imageboard that was made by the refuge discord server of Futaba's 2D board. seems it requires a discord login to use and can't be accessed outside Japan so they can post lolis without caring about international law
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So, what's the best place to lurk for sort of old 4chan vibes with anime, otaku topics, OCs and stuff?
As far as I understand, 2channel is mostly normies and futaba went to shit, right? Any altchans worth checking out?
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>>50100156
>2channel is mostly normies
I can't imagine this is broadly true. Most of the riajuu and normals were driven out to Xitter ages ago.

Are you asking specifically about Japanese boards, though? There are a few western altchans I think would be that spec (I don't really like promoting them openly here or really anywhere though, if I'm being frank). A lot of interests are very scattered away from the hub 2ch was. Lots of things that would have been 2ch threads are now Discord servers. Xitter is still huge for discovering niche things (I found a teen making OC art for Ayashii World) though the Discord swell is in part due to Japan having some fatigue over it too. If you want a big tent approach to otaku interests, I really like Nyalra's server (ユクーリしていってね), which might be the only justifiable reason to have like 100+ channels in a Discord server.
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I want to find some private japanese filesharing communities. I know they're out there ever since their p2p networks are dead.
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>>50088020
the japanese internet makes me depressed
its admirable though how they discuss random things. in the last 10 years the western net has truly lost its curiosity and interest in the world.
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I wonder if Japanese AI creators are pixelating the private parts still.... sad with technology giving us so much power that we are still being held back by ridiculous aged moral judgement and laws, the internet should be freeing
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>>50101341
They are, theres even automated workflows to do it for them so they can post it safely.
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>>50101341
stop derailing thread with your brimmed ai talk
>>50099394
link for mebukich?
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mebuki dot moe
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>>50099394
>seems it requires a discord login to use
kinda sad that it’s not anonymous at all but it makes sense considering the only reason they’re creating it is that they couldn’t control the amount of trolls and other messed up people on Futaba
i guess it's time to test some vpns
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>>50101808
I guess you can’t even lurk without logging in
I wonder if this will make Futaba’s activity decrease a lot
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>>50101846
How many people are in that Discord refuge now, a few thousand? I doubt this really changes the existing dynamic of things if it requires linking Discord just to lurk. Really seems like it would only appeal to the subset of people already willing to join a Discord.

It's such a weird server too. Verification required to post, everyone's display name gets set to としあき, but you can still click through to see who's behind every post or search their username.
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>>50100195
>I can't imagine this is broadly true. Most of the riajuu and normals were driven out to Xitter ages ago.
Ah ok. That's just what I have been told, that 2channel is just huge website that discusses normalfag things and futaba is more akin to 4chan.

>Are you asking specifically about Japanese boards, though?
Yea, I'm learning Japanese and would like to see how does it look like on chans on the other side of the world.

>Lots of things that would have been 2ch threads are now Discord servers.
Oh that's a shame.

>If you want a big tent approach to otaku interests, I really like Nyalra's server (ユクーリしていってね),
Well, I'm not really looking for discords, but thanks. I might check it out if they do not do any initial filtering if I just want to lurk around.
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>>50102344
The harsh truth is they're both decaying sites. The dynamic you're describing was the broad case maybe a decade or longer ago but I would say 5ch is even moreso just antisocials now. 2ch splintered too many times and shot themselves in the foot with bad management, Futaba became overrun with spam and trolls. There's still stuff on both for sure if you want to lurk.

Vtubers have some of the healthiest 5ch discussion and splintered boards if that's in your sphere of interest. Check out したらば (rentalbbs.shitaraba.com) and JPNKN (bbs.jpnkn.com) if you just wanna check out a bunch of refuge boards.
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>>50102376
Alright, good to know. Thanks!
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>>50101846
>auto troonslated the site
if you cant read japanese gtfo /jp/ kek
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>>50102291
>How many people are in that Discord refuge now, a few thousand?
around 13.600k people
said server is often shared on may which is futaba most active board
its a lot
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>>50102529
For now, things seem to be good on Futaba
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>>50102556
futaba's problem is it has close to 0 influx of users so the average age there is something like 40 years old on top of trolling.
for 5ch everyone just left for twitter.
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>>50102376
>Futaba became overrun with spam and trolls.
Do they have their own sharty or what's the reason behind such a long trolling campaign that people are forces to go to discord/make spinoffs.
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5ch mental health board is depressing.
i've never felt so bad reading stuff on a textboard before.
https://mevius.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/utu/1757241599/l50
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>>50103009
Similar problem on Nico these days. The plurality of users crossed over to their 30s from 20s around 2021, while overall MAU and DAU continues to collapse. The Blacksuit hack accelerated that trend, though there's some discrepancies between Kadokawa and surveys by Japan's telecommunications ministery. I'd guess there's pretty similar coupling to Futaba and 5ch demographics. https://note.com/beefkosogod/n/n585670e0831f

The downward premium users trend I think is well recognized (at least from what I read in the Japanese press), but I'll note Kadokawa's last quarter actually saw the first increase in premium users since 2017. No small thing after the price increases, credit card blocks, sensitive content purge, and the Blacksuit hack.
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>>50106130
5ch depression threads are some of the saddest things online
its hard to explain why tho
i think in the english world we always believe there's a solution or some kinda hope, but japan leans more towards pessimism and thinking some people are just hopeless
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>>50106338
You tend to get very calcified in your career and social standing over there at a young age. Not to get into the weeds of frameworks like the "American dream" and all but westerners mostly want to believe there is upwards mobility that we can always grab on to. The more brittle those frameworks begin to look and act, the more we'll probably see hikiNEET helplessness adopted by the western world.
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>>50106370
>You tend to get very calcified in your career and social standing over there at a young age.
true but it runs deeper than economics.

the phrase most emblematic of japan is 仕方ない. they see human beings as these passive victims of forces 1000x greater than them like ants under a magnifying glass, who shouldn't try too hard to fight the forces of nature because they're so out of their control. japan's outlook on life is really depressing once you get down to it. which is ironic because it descends directly from chinese materialism, which is a super uplifting and optimistic "religion".
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>>50106580
Life is suffering. It's true realism is liable to descending into pessimism, thought it's an easier philosophy to adopt when you're already weakened.

Appropriate that SZS features 2ch more than once. Besides that it was a more modern cultural reference then.
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>>50103910
Some boards on futaba seem to go unmoderated for days. People get mad or discouraged when something that breaks the rules is still there only after few hours and you don't need a group as malicious as sharty to ruin a board, you just need to be consistent in breaking the rules, you can post anyting really and people will get tired of that shit if it goes on for long enough.
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>>50101846
i saw some toshiaki saying activity on mebuki was like 3x that of futaba, i havent actually looked tho
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>>50106580
>仕方ない
I hate this like you wouldn't believe.
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>>50106580
Probably buddhism's influence.
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>>50101808
It's anonymous, only the admin knows who you are, but that's true for 4chan as well
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>>50106338
It’s really sad to think that someone from that thread probably jumped onto the train tracks the next day or a few weeks later.
Mass suicide threads used to be a frequent problem on the old 2ch, one person would announce their suicide and several others would also express their suicidal thoughts.
Of course, there were many people who were just venting or having breakdowns, but thinking that there were actually people who killed themselves after writing their last words there is depressing.
>>50107508
Can you talk about your personal experiences with that?
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>>50112738
>Can you talk about your personal experiences with that?
I had a Japanese person ask for advice(whine) about their life situation. Even so the solution wasn't really difficult, he would rather not just suffer through it themselves but also let other people to be lied to and hurt simply because he was too much of a pussy to go against the current. Shouganai my ass, this is just cowardice that actively makes it worse for everyone around just so you can avoid a short term confrontation and speaking up your mind. It accomplishes nothing.
No, I won't go into situation's details. But it pisses me off so much.
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>>50112738
>Mass suicide threads used to be a frequent problem on the old 2ch
Just found a 2008 thread asking if said threads could be removed;
https://archive.md/Hcyc9#selection-1905.43-1905.47
This thread was posted after threads about hydrogen sulfide suicides were spreading and people were linking them to dozens of deaths that happened that year.
Apparently, the police requested Hiro to delete such threads, but he refused because they did not break any Japanese law.
You can see people talking about it in the thread
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>>50117164
I found many suicide threads on 2ch, there were some trolls and concerned people in them but overall most of the replies were extremely sad.
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Apparently there’s an exact replica of 2ch called “open-2ch”
It's often mocked, with people saying its users are all kids romanticizing a past they never lived
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>>50096094
Surprised no one's mentioned 39 (that site), wap or kissu. I'd say they've made their mark by now.
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>>50118470
This thread is about Japanese internet culture, not altchans.
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>>50118546
The difference is nebulous when it's clear the Japanese use both
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>>50118550
Okay, let me clarify then: this isn't a thread about western altchans, which are clearly out of scope for Japanese internet culture.
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>>50101846
Are there any pictures of what the site looks like when you log in?

>>50118470
>>50118550
I use it and there's barely any Japanese there aside from Hioka. I don't count the /live/ gaijins who live in Japan.
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>>50119847
I went ahead and tried looking at it. After logging in for the first time there was a terms of service page that was more or less the same as futaba's rules. The UI is more modern looking and there are emoji reactions for posts. It has a dark theme that looks a little like 4chan's tomorrow css. There's also a sidebar that has buttons for viewing the catalog, notifications, threads you favorited, or viewing your own post history. And unless I'm missing something there are no boards, everything just goes to one central catalog.
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>>50120479
I looked at the site some more and there actually are "boards". There's a small list of tags that the OP can mark their thread as and you can filter the catalog for a specific tag.
Personally I don't particularly like these features but I still think it's neat how different this is from most imageboards.
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>>50120479
here's what the mobile version looks like (not my pic)
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2003 2ch meetup
they met up to watch the new matrix movie
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/nm9503994
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>>50122528
That might be second only in noteriety to this 2ch offkai. I believe this was organized on the /campus/ board, not sure on the exact year. There's a photo around somewhere of them supposedly gathering in 2022-2023 but I don't think it was ever verified.

There's also the litter collection offkai, which supposedly had hundreds of people in Enoshima. Sort of a light protest of Fuji TV's reporting during the 2002 World Cup.
https://togetter.com/li/2441492
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>>50122621
Funny how most people there seem to be on their 20s and 30s and then there's a guy who looks 60
>There's also the litter collection offkai, which supposedly had hundreds of people in Enoshima. Sort of a light protest of Fuji TV's reporting during the 2002 World Cup
Great pic and funny context, were they mad at Fuji TV or were they just joking around?
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>>50122721
Pixiv or Nicopedia might do a better job than me of describing the circumstances. Some of it was the pressure cooker of it being a Korea-Japan joint World Cup, some of it was the usual split hairs over mild reporting fouls that they love to get in a tizzy over. It's hard to tell with how much seriousness people actually got upset at it being referred to as the Korea-Japan World Cup and not the Japan-Korea World Cup.
https://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/2ch%E6%B9%98%E5%8D%97%E3%82%B4%E3%83%9F%E6%8B%BE%E3%81%84%E3%82%AA%E3%83%95

2ch residents especially then were more cynical romantics than just outright cynics, so animosity would get expressed in more creative ways. The event itself was sort of a mild troll. A regular part of FNS27, a Fuji TV annual summer special, is that they clean up the Shonan coastline. The idea was that 2ch would get out in front of that so they'd have to acknowledge that 2ch was responsible. They instead attributed it to lifeguards, which only fed the resentment.

Slideshow of the event, originally a Flash: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2122626
Another part of what the fed animosity was Korean fouls not being called, compiled here: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm664723
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>>50122769
Thank you so much anon, amazing info!
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im asking some 5chan users how their textboard is viewed in japan and they're saying that stories from there are quite popular, with tons of videos telling them... it's the japanese equivalent of greentext stories.
the worst part is that its true, search for 2ch on youtube and you'll see many channels just dedicated for that.
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Some 5chan boards are so dead that it's genuinely sad.
Their touhou board still has threads from 2019 and 2018 on the catalog
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"A clerk from some store selling 2channel merchandise on the streets of Akihabara.

Wearing 2channel goods, he enters a maid café and, while staring at the maids’ butts, live-updates his blog on a laptop he brought with him.
This is the trendy Akihabara style!

Very funny wwww"
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them japs are so wacky
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>>50132885
2ch merch being sold on akihabara
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>>50134252
I'm be curious when this photo is dated, or if it's related to >>50132885. The attempted trademark and commercializtion of mona was a pretty watershed 2ch event in late 2005. I suppose the difference is in a large conglomerate trying to exert that power instead of a small Akiba shop selling doujin tchotchkes.

https://nonexistentfandomsfandom.neocities.org/AAcats/nomaneko
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%AE%E3%81%BE%E3%83%8D%E3%82%B3%E5%95%8F%E9%A1%8C
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>>50134977
The second photo was taken around 2007 or so, the controversy had already died down a bit.
As a side note, it’s amazing how so many stories like this are completely unknown outside of Japan. Please don’t hesitate to share more if you know any.
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>>50136276
>As a side note, it’s amazing how so many stories like this are completely unknown outside of Japan.
The influence of 2ch and other regional sites has been overwritten by the way the web has explosively grown in the last decade. Everyone uses global platforms that have mostly converged on endless feeds, so I think it's probably unavoidable that these events become forgotten history even to the Japanese. Sort of like if you yanked your nephew's phone away while they were browsing TikTok and tried to explain the importance of silent films. The big touchstones like Charlie Chaplin might register, but getting beyond that would be tough.

Since we mentioned offkai earlier, I think Muneo House is a hugely important one if you want to parse the creative influence of 2ch. Basically collaborative music, Flash PVs, and club events themed around Muneo Suzuki (corrupt Japanese politician still in the House of Councilors, probably most known overseas for being tight with Russia and Steven Seagal).
https://denden.garden/2023/07/30/muneo-house/
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>>50134977
Even Taito was involved in this?
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>>50139013
Taito contracts with everyone and anything so they have junk to fill their UFO catchers. Really that's what they've done for the better part of two decades, it's probably the strongest aspect of the brand.

Good example of this: a Lawson crane game, installed by Taito, imported by Safari Games, developed by a firm in China that purchased a melody from a stock music site, was ultimately an unauthorized copy of Tenkomori's music.
https://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/2502/27/news139.html
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>>50127252
Very interesting stuff. By the way, how are you in contact with all these 5ch/Futaba/whatever users? From that Futaba discord server?
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>>50139376
I’m really out of the touch when it comes to this kind of stuff. The only game company I knew that made UFO prize figures of everything was sega.
You’re wise, anon.
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>>50139400
I’ve had a Japanese friend for years who’s a 5chan user, and he introduced me on LINE to a group of his friends, some of them also use 5chan and other Japanese textboards. I sometimes ask him and his friends questions about 5chan and such.
As for Futaba, I really had no choice but to get in touch with some members on the Discord servers they post there.
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>>50143371
I always wondered how their piracy scene is these days after death of PD. Do they all just use nyaa like the rest of the world?
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>>50145081
Winny and Perfect Dark still trudge on in some form, don't they? Japan definitely uses Nyaa, or at least they are in the swarms with everyone else downloading anime and JAV based on the peers. Largely it's all Bittorrent now though. Japan will send copyright infringement notices through to ISPs like everywhere else in the world, but ISPs will actually ask you first if you want to voluntarily disclose your identity. If you say no the owners can then go through the courts and compel disclosure, which unmasks you and usually means lawyers pestering you for damages. Also like everywhere else, this is an effective/popular tactic for people that download porn.

Article from a law firm going over the disclosure process and negotiating claims.
https://www.aichisogo.or.jp/column/954/
5ch's current general about Bittorrent disclosure requests (トレント関連開示請求相談). Lots of discussion of the aforementioned, people posting their threat letters, and some VPN help.
https://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/shikaku/1759988104/

WinMX to Winny to Share to Perfect Dark is a really rich history, I'd like to see someone write a good outline of it in English at some point.
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>>50145516
PD has around 1500 users right now, it's nowhere near as popular as it used to be and all new files are sources from other places, no original uploads. Winny also kinda works but I didn't check it as far as fresh files are concerned.
>WinMX to Winny to Share to Perfect Dark is a really rich history, I'd like to see someone write a good outline of it in English at some point.
Agreed, I definitely regret missing out on japanese WinMX having only experienced Share and Winny. I'd love to see what kind of stuff power users shared back then and read up some history on these guys, so many files from that era are completely lost now and even if someone still has them on their old hard drives, there's no way they're sharing. I heard WinMX was where fansubbing groups used to source their anime raws in early 2000s but good luck finding those people.
On opennap servers there are still some users but it's a ghost town as well, not even 100 people on there, at least on the public ones. These are the only people who might remember the old days.
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>>50145616
1500 is more than I would have thought frankly. Shit was always a huge pain in the ass to setup right and get port forwarded, plus having to reserve the cache.

>I heard WinMX was where fansubbing groups used to source their anime raws in early 2000s but good luck finding those people.
I'll ask around about this, not sure how many of the fansubbers I knew from the heyday of speedsubs were active at its height. But it's definitely true WinMX had a lot of westerners crawling it for raws and such, even after Winny's support for >2GB files. Also much illicit mterial. There was definitely an etiquette around trading that probably kept a lot of gaijin out, so you could hold a lot of power just taking WinMX shit and mirroring it on a DCC bot or whatever. Soulseek hoarders probably can't handle a candle to the trading culture that was the norm back with WinMX/Utatane.
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Ah fuck, KeyDB is also going down I guess any day now soon.
http://keydb.telegrip.info/
>2025年9月中か遅くとも10月中に、当サイトは閉鎖いたします。
>(新規データ登録は停止しました:2025年10月02日)
>ついては、当サイトのDBデータをShareに放流しております。
>「ファイル照会DB」で検索していただけます。(サイズはおよそ1.2GB)

If someone has Share set up they should mirror that DB, but I guess that says it all about the current state of P2P in Japan.
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>>50145797
>1500 is more than I would have thought frankly. Shit was always a huge pain in the ass to setup right and get port forwarded, plus having to reserve the cache.
It used to be close to 10k, even more.
>Soulseek hoarders probably can't handle a candle to the trading culture that was the norm back with WinMX/Utatane.
Yup, on public servers nobody opens their shares. On private ones it was more common but you still need to keep manners every time. A silent queue is guaranteed to get you blocked.
From hearsay, on mx there used to be a lot of users who instantly shared their anime and eroge iso very first day but of course they were super pissy about trading that shit. Winny and Share normalized sharing in the open.
I'm just interested in doujin content that was shared back in the day because gaijins didn't exactly do a perfect job archiving everything.
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>>50145797
>Also much illicit mterial.
Before criminalization of possession, it was like downloading other kinds of amateur porn, probably still is. This used to be a completely normal thing among people technical enough to use p2p software, I bet you can find 2ch threads about this.
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Do you have a favorite 5ch or futaba board, anon?
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A ~70,000 image archive of nijiura maids from 2006-2012, originally sourced from http://kazumi386.org/~maid
https://maids.plum.moe/ or https://plum.moe/maid.torrent if you're so inclined.

It died earlier this year when I had server troubles but I've restored it now, thanks to the kind anon who emailed me.
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>>50152166
これを全部まとめるのにどれくらい時間がかかりましたか?
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>>50152166
>>50155426
Sorry, I accidentally wrote in Japanese.
How long did it take to compile all of this?
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please forgive me if this makes me sound like a complete newfag, but can I ask, why is 4chan so close to Touhou?

I have been in the fandom and in this website a good time but I never made the connection. I know is a popular japanese franchise but why so specifically that one?
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>>50155850
Everything that's popular in japan is naturally popular in the west
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>>50159402
I look forward to being force fed J-drama slop and even more narou-kei.

>>50155850
Again, this isn't a thread about western imageboards or altchans, but I'll humor you a little: Touhou was/is a huge component of Japanese online otaku culture in 4chan's early years. Much of the overseas fandom around Touhou predates 4chan's interest, including MotK and pooshlmer, and it would be appropriate to say the interest was imported here like ADTRW seeded 4chan as a whole. Touhou's doujin expressions are also very culturally exportable and entertaining to westerners, like the Flash PVs you're familiar with or more secondary creations like "McRoll'd". The introduction of this very board is maybe 80% the result of Touhou hijacks (yes, it's not just an image macro) overflowing /a/ and feeding that interest with a snowball effect, with another 20% being spillover from /v/ discussion about Touhou and VNs.

This really is a blindingly newfag question, so I guess credit for recognizing it as such.
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>>50106130
They sound like my internal monologue. I should've been born Japanese.
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>>50155850
>>50159614
There is simply so much fucking Touhou content being created by Japan - a lot of it at an insanely high level.
And with Japan being way ahead of everyone else on the web at the time, it's only natural that Westerners would get attracted to it.
We are talking about an age without YouTube. Flash was fucking insane at the time when 4chan came around.
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I found some DIY figure kits related to Futaba culture that were being sold for 300 yen at the time
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Found these futaba-related flash montages/animations while lurking on niconico
Pretty nice
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11130907
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9064323
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7819894
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>>50168666
>>50168660
>>50168649
I know about wahai and neikako ghost, not sure about the first one though.
>>50171171
Sweet mother of soul.
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>>50171340
>not sure about the first one though.
Its a representation of Futaba's administrator.
Just like how Hiroyuki is represented as a cute bunny girl/guy and such.
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>>50173239
>cute bunny girl
He really loves that representation. It's still his Xitter profile picture and it's all over merch now.

Gotta say as much as I don't really care for the guy, it's sort of impressive how relevant he's remained across basically every era of the Japanese web.
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>>50173299
Now that I think about it he's pretty much the only creator of a traditional web forum in the world that still maintains a celebrity status?
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>>50174756
Hiroyuki's mega unique in his sort of celebrity and also that he's worn many "hats" so to say. The few founders or administrators am I thinking of are just famous for being investors that rub shoulders with people that run in Y Combinator circles. Reddit is fairly "traditional" in that it's majorly text based (I think I'd count it in this discussion knowing it was harbor for things like the ニュース速報 exodus) but I dunno if you'd want to count people like Alexis Ohanian, now showing up on broadcast TV as "the Reddit guy", or Aaron Swartz, when he's more of a martyr than anything else.
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Found a 2007 OS-tans montage
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9010
Recently saw a nijiiura thread about them shortly after Windows 10 support ended.
It was pretty nice.
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This is a good thread
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>>50174756
>>50178150
how many projects and shows is this guy involved in? lol
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>>50181266
>sm9010
Fuck was that early on.
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bomp
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Which VPN should I use to post on futaba and 2ch? Most of them don’t work there.
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>>50189042
Most of his books are ghostwritten (I think he admitted this himself fairly recently) but I think it helps a lot with his profile. "Serious" people that read junk like self-help books know him, he shows up on TV enough to be recognized and jockeyed for appearances there, and he's rotting on socials and livestreaming parasocially with the youth. Hiroyuki is the logical end to debate being transformed into a thing you do in front of cameras in 1-2 minute soundbites.

People love his visibility, just look at the comments here when he went to visit Noto after the earthquake. It's so far flung from how narrowly "Hiroshimoot" is thought of by 4chan or even western press.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMJLK-1skAA
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>>50191055
Well, they don't want foreigners to post or even read there.
Which is unfortunately rather understandable.
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>>50191614
Thank you very much for the info
It's interesting how this man seems to be involved in so many things
I really don't know which western figure he could be compared to
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>>50192027
4chan won't allow vpn's either, so it isn't unusual
tricky to find any vpn that isn't blocked
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>>50198122
On 4chan the Pass does the trick, but I don't think, △ does it on 2/5channel (had that for a year before "that incident").
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>>50198122
I know 5ch has it own pass as well so foreigners can post, but getting a vpn is probably better anyway
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>>50204660
Genius.
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im glad MAD culture is still alive after all this time.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3327093
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm44158545
these two have a 16 year difference
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>>50207808
Thanks for posting. The video really took me back. That said,
>posted 3 weeks ago, 30k views
>alive
Choose one.
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>>50211270
on youtube it has 179k views, just wanted to send niconico since its more traditional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L58JHpoQ-I
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>>50207808
over the past decade+ 音MAD seems to have absorbed every single one of ytpmv's worst habits and the result is crap like this lol
some people were never suited to this medium, but that cancer opened the door anyway.
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>>50211270
30k is actually a good chunk on Nico, even back to its heyday. Here's Sige, current CEO of Nico, talking a few days ago about how they used to count automatic playbacks but stopped due to user feedback.
https://x.com/sigekun/status/1979419079028158905

Not to say you're doing this specifically, but the fluid value of a view makes it really annoying when people compare the stat across platforms or inflate its importance on places like Xitter. 10 million views there is not the same as 10 million views on YouTube, or Nico, or TikTok. Nico has always been more strict about what they consider a play and doesn't funnel people into videos with aggressive recommendations.

It's even worse when you throw short form content into the mix. YouTube, as recent example, is actively inflating views on shorts>>50213739
>some people were never suited to this medium, but that cancer opened the door anyway.

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/333869549/a-change-to-how-we-count-views-on-shorts
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>>50215998
Sorry didn't mean that quote in the middle there, misclicked.
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>>50213739
Wat do you mean, what's the matter with the newer 音MAD ?
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>>50213739
can you post an example of recent MAD you like?
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>>50145843
http://keydb.telegrip.info/
They uploaded the whole database on google drive.
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I went to check a 2001 archive from Team Shanghai Alice website but the text look like this for some reason
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>>50220905
Wrong code-page. The web wasn't all UTF-8 back in the day (and the HTML meta-data probably didn't correctly specify Shift-JIS there).
Well, either that or your browser is crap.
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Were the Muneo House albums ever archived somewhere? I can not for the life of me find them.
https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/all-time/c:2ch_records/
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I learned some new Japan lore yesterday
Apparently those tiles you see all over Japanese exteriors are going out of fashion. Some people find them ugly, but the reason they're seen that way is because a ton of them are dirty and not maintained. To maintain them is more costly than other materials, so during Japan's economic boom the country put them everywhere as a kind of symbol of their economic flourishing. Nowadays, they don't really have the money to maintain them, and some of the techniques needed to build and maintain them are being lost too as the older generation dies off. Some places are still built with them, but it's typically only more expensive places.

I'm a fan of the tiles so it's kinda sad to see.
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>>50221267
It's all on the IA I'm pretty fairly sure, I think this collection has more than the standard albums.
https://archive.org/details/TheMuneoHouse

muneohouse.net used to be the clearnet place to get them, looks like the Wayback pulled most/all of the albums (filter by ".mp3").
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://muneohouse.net/*

Barring that you may legitimately have success on WinMX.
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>>50221951
Oh thank god! I don't know why I didn't check IA.
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>>50221951
https://www.muneohouse.net/MUNEX/discography.html#single
Incredible how this had so many mirrors and now a lot of it is lost to time. I'm pretty sure it's neither on mx these days because that network barely had users last time I checked neither they were willing to share anything with you.
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>>50222996
https://underdefinition.hatenadiary.jp/
Acutally, this site seems to have everything (albums are on the right)
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>>50220945
>either that or your browser is crap.
i know firefox isnt perfect but i guess it's good enough.
thanks for explaining, anon.
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>>50223405
View > Repair Text Encoding is handy to know for SJIS.

It doesn't have that much to do with the browser though, there are good reasons why it's not done automatically.
https://hsivonen.fi/no-encoding-menu/
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>>50223405
No problem. Have a look into mojibake (文字化け), if you have the time.
Things have generally gotten a lot better compared to the 2000s, but it still happens now and then - especially with diacritics.

>>50223502
Nah, I was talking about the browser not interpreting code-page information from the server-side properly.
Say, there is the content-type charset HTTP header, and this very HTML file has a meta charset-tag in its head.
When a badly coded browser stumbles over those, you get mojibake.
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>>50221947
I have often wondered what was up with the Japanese and their love of putting bathroom tiles on buildings.
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>>50223804
It's not bad coding though. The BOM or header always takes priority regardless of the whatever <meta> charset is declared. That's the plain W3C spec.

The specifc page anon cited:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010603225146id_/https://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/top.html
Sends no Content-Type charset and has no <meta> charset declared. Some modern browsers are just making their best guess and are often wrong anyway (from Firefox's console, though it will correctly pick SJIS here):
>The character encoding of the document was not declared, so the encoding was guessed from content. The character encoding needs to be declared in the Content-Type HTTP header, using a meta tag, or using a byte order mark.

To keep it on topic, Firefox will go as far as checking if the TLD is something like .jp specifically because Japanese websites are the biggest paint point whenever they try to expand automatic detection. Having an explicit repair option lets the user nudge to make a second encoding guess if they get mojibake, while Chrome offers nothing native.
https://hsivonen.fi/utf-8-detection/
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>>50221951
>>50223041
Thank you for doing god’s work, anon
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>>50226521
Futaba seems like a desolate place.
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>>50092213
They use archive.org
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>>50136276
I'd love to buy mona merch if I ever stumble upon it when visiting Japan
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Do Futaba and 5chan have any kind of event or ritual celebration on Halloween?
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>>50230425
Halloween is a fairly recent import to Japan, mostly as a party animal holiday started by foreigners, so I'm not aware of any specific connect they would have to it. Their biggest association with it as this point are likely to be the Seoul crowd crush, gacha banners, or the parties being part of the perceived decay with Shinjuku and Shibuya.

Current thread for Halloween talking about how it's boring now.
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1761778835
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>>50230903
Very interesting thread
Do you know if they have any kind of celebration on any holiday, like New Year’s for example? Even if it's something simple like getting together to play a game
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>>50230903
>about how it's boring now
It's 4 in the morning the night before.
What the fuck do you expect?

Let's hope, gaijins behave this year.
(The foreigners in my place also use it as an excuse to physically destroy and set fire to things. Fuck those pieces of shit. Go back to where you have come from.)
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>>50234372
>Do you know if they have any kind of celebration on any holiday, like New Year’s for example? Even if it's something simple like getting together to play a game
Im talking about celebrations within 5ch/futaba just to make it clear
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Futaba's touhou board celebrated Halloween by posting lewd fanarts of characters in typical Halloween costumes
I love them so much
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>>50240373
some also celebrated on futaba's minecraft server
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>>50245415
I kind of fear trying to do this nowadays will get you banned instantly, it's already hard enough to stumble upon a proxy that's not blocked in my casino of my vpn.
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>>50245590
>I kind of fear trying to do this nowadays will get you banned instantly
I’m not sure if it’s due to a lack of moderation or if their rules are more relaxed nowadays, but I’ve seen threads made by foreigners stay up and get normal interactions
>it's already hard enough to stumble upon a proxy that's not blocked in my casino of my vpn.
I wonder if openvpn works on futaba? I tested it on 5ch a while ago, and it worked on some boards.
i really want to create some threads on futaba when visiting japan
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>>50245590
People on 5ch and eddy are nice when I make threads there. Years ago you'd get people who refused to believe you were a foreigner if you could write Japanese. Now with the huge foreigner influx I think the whole exotic element to foreigners has evaporated
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I have a whole list of bookmarks of 2ch content, but most of the sites have gone down so I will have to sort them through the internet archive.
I notice that 2ch-like textboards usually have different user interaction than you find on imageboards which I find pretty cool. If you like textboards as a whole then I recommend https://world2ch.net
Most of the discussion on english textboards is not about 2ch but you will usually notice differences in posting etiquette.
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>>50247400
> I think the whole exotic element to foreigners has evaporated
I used to do this in japanese MMO servers, was the token gaijin friend they wanted to practice english on but now nobody gives a shit or just actively avoids you. Don't blame em, though because I avoid western servers too for the same reason lmao
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>>50249672
Yeah, most people in the West are fucking obnoxious. Both among the natives and the migrants.
Anonymous text and image boards apparently filter the worst of the worst of "us" away, though.
Once you can't really derive any personalized self-importance from what you write and post, it appears to discourage that type of people from doing so.
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>>50249672
I’ve always dreamed of being Japanese, and that feeling only grew stronger after I made Japanese SNS friends whom I’ve been talking with for years.
Knowing that I’ll never be Japanese is honestly kind of depressing. I always compare my society to Japanese society and it just makes me feel sad.
My friend group still treats me as the token gaijin, and I’m happy that they tell me a lot about Japan and otaku stuff they like, but I don’t know, sometimes these feelings just come to mind lol
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>>50251253
>My friend group still treats me as the token gaijin
Embrace it brother, theres nothing wrong with it. You fill a niche in your friend group when otherwise you'd be just a boring nobody and remain friendless.

You might feel like you're missing out on some kind of "authentic" experience but in reality you have the upper hand when it comes to socialization as long as you're not just outright gross looking/acting. Besides even if you were japanese you'd just be somewhere else blogging about your shitty childhood with nofriends and crushing social pressure instead.
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>>50251280
I actually wonder why he has that perspective. As a foreigner you can still reap the benefits of Japanese society without being oppressively pinned down by the downsides. You don't feel the insane pressure from your family to go into a specific career, or to follow X arbitrary rule that only Japanese people know about. You will never actually be Japanese, but right now that doesn't matter. There are no special benefits to being Japanese in Japan outside of not being barred from certain housing or getting certain career opportunities you probably wouldn't want anyway. I can understand envying the lifestyle you see in anime and stuff, but these things are so popular in Japan because even over there most people hardly get to experience that stuff. They play Persona because it lets them have the high school experience they never got to have, etc.
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>>50251296
Same old grass is greener conundrum. To be fair, it would be heaps better than growing up in some shithole like brazil so I can't fault anon for his dreams if that was the case.
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>>50251381
Brazil has many Japanese so it'd probably be better in this case than wherever you are.
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come on
https://www.kyodemo.net/sdemo/b/e_e_liveedge/
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>>50251280
>>50251296
Thanks, anons. I understand your points.
I just get sad when I compare aspects of Japan that I consider nice with how things are here, whether it’s their strong collectivism, their politeness, or the fact that there’s something for everyone in terms of entertainment and leisure that would be unimaginable here.
I suppose I really could enjoy those things, either by visiting Japan from time to time or by living there for a while. It would be difficult, but possible.
I think what makes it worse is that my Japanese friends basically never talk about Japan’s negative sides; they truly love their country. At most, they criticize things like politics.
The most critical Japanese person toward Japan that I know is an autistic guy from Niigata who loves hentai, trains and Tsukumizu’s works. He often criticizes how Japanese people just follow trends, act fake, and are very judgmental. But at the same time, he feels he wouldn’t fit into any society other than Japanese society. He hates Japan, but still considers it the best there is.
>>50251381
wtf, i'm brazilian, how did you nailed that? lmao
Well, the country really is a mess on a federal level, but I live in a peaceful rural area of the richest state in the country and I come from an upper-middle-class family. The only experience I have with horrible things like favelas and crime is through movies and the news. Still, I hate having to deal with issues like extreme individualism and a lack of manners from time to time.
I don’t know if it’s kind of hypocritical to be so negative about my country when I live a better life than most of the population, but I don’t know, I look at how quickly Japan developed during the Meiji era and after World War II, and I just know that something like that will never happen here.
>>50251405
They’re always surprised when they remember how big the Japanese-Brazilian community is, even though most Japanese-Brazilians mix parts of Japanese culture with Brazilian culture.
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It's odd it happened in the context of a 訃報, but the Japanese web is seriously alive and a power to behold:
>>>/wsg/6019254
Why can't "we" be more like them?
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>>50254201
I always wondered why certain brazilians gravitate so hard to japan, but i guess it makes sense in the context of a pretty smart group of people trapped in a country full of crime. If america had even more crime I bet we'd have even more weebs or something, it's kind of like escapism
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>>50255317
I guess so
I remember I used to follow some Japanese Brazilian channels from people living in Japan back in the early 2010s, and I always felt nothing but admiration. You could really see how Japan was the complete opposite of Brazil when it came to issues like crime and lack of manners.
Even so, Brazilians who are fascinated by Japan to the point of actually wanting to research everything about the country are an extreme minority, but they tend to be polite at least.
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http://viper.2ch.sc/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1500381581
This thread from 2017 discusses why VIP declined.
VIP was the most active board until the early 2010s if i remember correctly.

Back in the day i was kid also was basically matome-fag so i dont much know the real situation. But I remember that the quality of the content gradually declined around 2010~2015.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/XKuwjEFU3EU
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000001189.000056982.html
Scheduled live with Hiroyuki guesting on nyalra's radio show to talk about changes in the Japanese net and subcultures.
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>>50257587
Great thread. Pretty sad how relatable some replies are.
>今は政治とアフィスレとソシャゲ系のパートスレしか伸びないの悲しい

Some replies also blame twitter, which makes sense.
The demographic shift from japanese text and imageboards to twitter was unfortunately catastrophic.
I sometimes wonder if there will ever be another Japanese SNS as big as 2ch
I suppose Misskey is the closest thing we currently have, but I honestly don’t know if it has a strong culture like Futaba and 2ch used to have.
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>>50259456
Seems pretty cool, just wish they did it on the weekends instead of Monday.
Thanks anon.
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sorry if it’s a stupid question, but how did 5chan and futaba react when 4chan went down earlier this year?
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Are there any onion only image boards that capture the essence of old 4chan?
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>>50263369
The few threads on futaba about it cheered and was condescending of the site, it's kind of normal when you see our own reactions about altchans.
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https://ch.dlsite.com/pommu/
https://info.eisys.co.jp/dlchannel/597cbb934442ec1f

DLsite launched their own SNS, Pommu. The announcement tweet got some attention and a few artists have picked it up because your account is pre-created if you already had a DLchannel profile. Looks like the same content restrictions as DLsite proper with some integration for posting works, but it's totally its own contained thing, so not fediverse-integrated and fairly barebones.

In the spirit of ICQ, you're not cool unless you have a six digit ID or less.
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>>50263369
>how did futaba react when 4chan went down earlier this year?
I don't remember much other than this screenshot I have
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>>50263726
>the essence of old 4chan
Having 20+ tabs open, remembering your post numbers yourself one by one, so you don't miss a reply?
Who in his right fucking mind would want to go back to that?
It was fun, but the QoL improvements especially with 4chanX are something, I wouldn't want to ever miss again.
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>>50265328
Yeah noko and visible sage actually changed how users would interact with the site and threads.
I'll concede, i'll take modern 4chan qol but without archive autists.
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>>50264070
found some cute stuff there.
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>>50265328
the difference was in the quality of the people, the modern internet user overall is vastly inferior to 15 years ago
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>>50268057
>the modern internet user overall is vastly inferior to 15 years ago
The internet of 10+ years ago felt so much more intense and weird. I always felt as if the old internet was building up to something special, and if it could've only had more years in the oven, amazing things would have happened. The only reason it didn't go this way is because everyone was so young at the time
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>>50207808
English comments on Niconico are always cancer, huh?
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>>50251253
>after I made Japanese SNS friends
Did you meet these friends in games first? Or just twitter? I've always wanted to make Japanese friends online but idk where to meet them
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>>50269785
They were kind of funny when Niconico (the English portal) was new and they did the livestreams. But it's generally the reason they still have the comment servers split by region even after that attempt sputtered and they have basically given up on global expansion. English isn't dense enough to saying anything that useful/interesting/funny in a scrolling comment.
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>>50269819
99% of them were on twitter.
It isn’t that hard as long as you’re very respectful and follow their manners and culture as much as possible. You just need to share a hobby or at least show interest in something the person knows.
Also, there are many Japanese people who really want to practice their English somehow. If you’re from an English speaking country, they would see it as a huge opportunity
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj_2mgdSeyU
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https://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/otaku/1178938121/
interesting 2007 2ch thread about why most otaku are neets
the thread is open to this day, after 18 years.
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bumpe
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>>50264070
is there any filter there? it's already flooded by tourists with basedaks and images of fatasses
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>>50276783
There's not. Close to launch Atena-chan said (paraphrasing) that pretty much everything people are asking for they'll try to implement. It speaks to how thrown together the thing is though that it doesn't even have blocking or a notifications tab.
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>>50264070
>>50276783
>>50276793
>ただいまメンテナンス中です終了まで今しばらくお待ちください
well i guess that's for the better
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>>50276448
Looks like the entirety of 2025's discussion was derailed by posting about some politician. Even Japan has their bots and/or schizos.
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i wish the otaku board on 5chan was more active
some threads are pretty nice
https://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/otaku/1170518143/
2007 thread on how anime women are way superior than real women
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>>50277381
The main criticism I see about 5ch is that nowadays only politics and other news prevail
It's sad.
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https://bbs.animanch.com/
https://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E3%81%82%E3%81%AB%E3%81%BE%E3%82%93%E6%8E%B2%E7%A4%BA%E6%9D%BF

あにまんBBS is similar to Futaba, but it has younger user and is also quite active. It seems politics is not allowed here.
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>>50276783
this why everything from japan is ip blocked for us.
we can't have nice things.
im tired.
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https://bbs.animanch.com/board/5849387/
インターネット(掲示板)は昔よりもつまらなくなったと感じることある?
Do you ever feel like the internet (message boards) have become less interesting than they used to be?

this is ongoing thread start from 11/09/25
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>>50280473
The scars you can see in rules are always pretty funny with these things. Inmu, Cookie, and console wars are listed next to modern politics and post-WWII history.
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>>50281494
For some reason, I find it easier to read this thread compared to the ones on 5ch.
I guess It doesn’t have as many inside jokes and niche terms as 5chan
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>>50281774
Lmao
A toshiaki once told me that you could get banned on futaba for talking about Hiroyuki, i don't know how true that is but it's pretty funny regardless
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https://web.archive.org/web/20040413022202/http://takureihp.hp.infoseek.co.jp/
very old japanese blog
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>>50259456
How was it?
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>>50281774
>post-WWII history.
That seems. Oddly specific more so in the odd way? You'd figure they would have that entire time period on lockdown not just postwar.
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>>50286746
It's this upcoming Monday (17th), I'll post here for it.

>>50286799
Postwar Japan is just overall contentious because of their constitution and article 9. If you consider yourself part of the netouyo, which are teeming on BBSes, that's the pivotal moment when Japan lost its autonomy.

English Wikipedia similarly considers post-1992 American politics a contentious topic, which prior to a few years ago was still post-1932.
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went on the 2ch webm board yesterday and it moves so slow, like 2 hours later the same posts hadn't moved, where did everyone go?
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>>50281224
need to make boards Japanese language only and disable easy right clicking copy pasting so it will be inconvenient for translation
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>>50289498
Is that a recent change in activity? Futaba was totally overrun with Sora slop threads, so I could imagine that.
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>>50289525
good question, I honestly hadn't checked into there in a few years and then got inspired when I noticed this thread, I miss the good old days and hoping to find glimmers of it still existing somewhere
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My question is, why do so many of you stick around on /jp/ when there are other sites that are actual textboards to discuss this topic.
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>>50290205
We don't care about your butthurtchans, go away.
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>>50136276
>As a side note, it’s amazing how so many stories like this are completely unknown outside of Japan
It goes both ways, I remember the shitstorms back in 2006 when some companies started trying to commercialize /b/ memes like longcat and the O RLY? owlz, the butthurt when moot theamed up with the Chinaman that ended founding the I Can I has Cheezburger lolcat empire, or moot's failed meme remix website https://canv.as .... all of that is forgotten in the west, Japan never even knew all the western imageboard drama...
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>>50290205
I also do so IRL, but frankly said, other places on the English-speaking web are literally cancer.
And the Japanese web (attempts to) block gaijin with the power of a thousand kyokujitsu.
Honestly preferred the days of "/jp/ - Japan/General", but a "/jp/ - Otaku Culture" is fine, too.
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>>50290205
i believe classic otaku culture still has a place for discussion here
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>>50289512
these bastards would raid it anyway... the problem is that they didnt block gaijin IP from the start
antis treat drawings worse than actual crimes and they're really obsessed over them
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>>50292897
which ones do you refer to?
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>>50292897
Can you at least lurk in them with VPNs?
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good ascii art website related to 2ch i found
https://aa.kaomoji-copy.com/menu/
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>>50299050
This one is also pretty legendary as far as AA. Still being regularly updated and has useful commentary on why each entry is noteworthy.
https://riceballman.web.fc2.com//frame.html
Little bit of a sidebar: it used to be hosted on fc2web.com, which shut down a few months ago and had a lot of these sites from the turn of the millennium. ArchiveTeam saved them if you want a lot of old stuff to root around in.
https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/FC2WEB



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