Contrary to what, exactly?
>>50100062What's Maribel's favorite book?
>>50100100Kama Sutra
>>50100100264,000,000 Shaku Under the Seas
European?! She looks more like an American to me!
>>50100062Contrary to Renko's flat chest.
>>50100527It's not flat, it's conveniently shaped.
>>50100062Contrary to popular belief, she looks even better without a dress!>>50100527Contrary to Renko's spiking men's drinks.
I am really glad I can spend time in merry's threadI'm sick and tired of renko's brand of autism and harassment!I need some chill time talking with a pseud, celebrating that our plato school doesn't have to prove anything!
>>50100062Contrary to clear scientific evidence that youkai do not exist.
>>50100100It's actually Fifty Shades of Grey but don't tell anyone
>>50100062Who cares about that flash us already!
>>50103862that's what friends are for
>>50103886Trucker here. I can verify the events drawn in this panel are real.
>>50103862Alright, catch!
I had a terrible nightmare that European women were real and were coming for my semen again...
>>50104770And I though Merry was the sane one...
>>50105006That's just common European banter, ask the Yugoslavia.
>>50104890I've got bad news for you anon...
>>50105050>ask the YugoslaviaI now have alcohol poisoning, twenty-eight stab wounds, and a burning hatred for my neighbours. This was a terrible idea.>>50104890I actually dreamt I got stabbed in Germany and bled out on the street. I wish Mary was there to pee on my wound.
>>50105389>twenty-eight stab woundsAwwwwww, they wanted to leave you a chance. I think they like you! Maybe next time, you'll be invited to a drinking party! Also, alcohol poisoning isn't a real thing.
>>50104039truck oji-san, is renko just autistic as she sounds in the cds?
I want to sniff MaryI need to know what she smells like before she becomes the lazy stinky hag
>>50100062Maribel Hearn is a dork.
Mary?
>>50100062Contrary to your specific tastes and opinions.
Mary...?
>>50106134Mary!
>>50100605>Contrary to popular belief, she looks even better without a dress!Renko at least has her hat, since it goes with anything. If you take Maribel out of her purple outfit, she doesn't even look like herself.
>>50100100That would have to be Ernst Jünger's Storm of Steel, of course. While some might view its detached position as uncaring or even irresponsible, it offers a timeless look into the nature of war. In describing the experiences of Jünger as they were without any attempt at adding literary flair it allows the reader to be put into his shoes rather than imagining it as part of a plot with some greater narrative purpose. It makes no attempt to sway one in some direction or another yet can hardly be called impersonal. Jünger doesn't shy away from admitting that his experiences seemed an attractive alternative to the mundanity of life prior to the war. On the contrary, it is a very personal story. It doesn't concern itself with the strategic influences of the war or any broad statement on governments, politics, or the world. Yet it is exactly this which allows it to be such a universal reflection of human nature. Not something good or evil, but something which simply is. While it may be radically foreign, I believe everyone in Gensokyo could appreciate it.
Merryberries
>>50109123Evrope has fallen... They prefer Japanese women...
>>50109123We like to take is easyJust like her
>>50109064Yukari's daughter a cute
>>50112811I don't want to play with weird aunt Yukarin anymore! She's scary and stinky!
>>50114115I didn't see the Hearn in the corner at first and thought it was an aggressive marriage proposal
>>50114301She will have to do that too eventually. Neither the anti-social college student nor the enigmatic youkai are exactly approachable.
I wonder how worried (or interested) Mary would be about everyone here, from a psychological perspective?GFC hits different in autumn. I need to get my shit together and lie down for an hour sometime to marathon it.
>>50116749She would be horrified...
>>50116749"Anon, this imageboard is a Cave, the posts are shadows on a wall! and Hifuu is the outside world! come with me, I have a person I want to introduce you to."
>>50106134Best Mary...
Is Maribel a phenomenalist?
>>50106815She's so happy!
It's funny how Merry was the one who came up with the idea of calling the beings from other worlds youkai, while Renko found that choice strange.I love how much of a weeb Merry is.
"Easy Ride Merry", they call her.
>>50100062Unlike most Touhous, Merry is completely straight! Unfortunately, Renko is extremely gay and likes to masturbate loudly to Merry during sleepovers.
Gensokyo is the Jungian shadow of the universe, it is where everything humanity wants to forget about itself gathers to form a single coherent whole.
>>50100062Contrary to being one of only two people on the planet who believes in the existence of other worlds that only exist in the first place if enough people believe in them, making it confusing as to where these worlds came from in the first place and raising the possibility of all of Touhou only existing inside Renko and Maribel's imagination and Yukari actually being Mary's autistic chuuni self-insert (same with Renko and Sumireko)
>>50134531Good one Merry.>>50134677That's a fun theory, but I think Gensokyo itself is definitively true, but things within it exist if you believe in them.
>>50134677Sumi and Renko are too different. You can sort of see how someone like Maribel would either turn into or come up with someone like Yukari, but Renko would just find Sumireko annoying.
>>50134686>That's a fun theoryIt's flawed in the ways 99% of dream theories are flawed. There's no way to engage with the theory (no way to disprove or confirm it), it doesn't recontextualize the series in an interesting way, it doesn't reinforce or explore any existing themes, it just kind of feels like a gimmicky twist ending for the sake of it.Which is funny because this is a series with an incredibly well done dream twist in one of its more well known fan works, CtC. It works there, not just because of the flawless execution on the concept, but because it:A. Is used as a vehicle to explore the game's core themes (if a fictional world belongs to the fans or the creator, if fans are justified in continuing an abandoned series or if the creator should be allowed to retire it, death of the author)B. Is cleverly used not as a twist, but as a driving force for the central conflict. Gensokyo is a dream, you are part of that dream, and the dreamer is waking up. You are fighting to maintain your existence in the face of seemingly inevitable oblivion.CtC has issues in its writing, but the dream twist was used masterfully.
>>50134731It's fun because it engages nicely with the structure of Touhou's story, being divided between the fantasy world in the present and the semi-dystopian future of the Hifuu albums. If there was to be a single unified theory explaining all of Touohu(which I doubt there is), it would need to address that structure.But yes, dream theories are not my favorite, since they just dismiss everything. And they are especially flawed in Touhou, since Maribel has physical evidence of Gensokyo's existence.
>>50134747Given all the teasing of Maribel and Yukari being connected and the obvious parallels to a certain other Hearn, I would be shocked if that connection wasn't the catalyst for folding the hifuu story into modern Gensokyo.
>>50134731It really wasn't intended as a "what if it was ALL JUST A DREAM lol spooky" theory because I agree those are dumb, it was more wondering what the line between "fantasy" and "reality" is in a world where both objectively exist
>>50134763I suppose that's fair, then. I've always been more on team "Maribel becomes Yukari", but I see the appeal in the two existing as parallel beings. Makes more sense than the "Yukari is Maribel's mommy" theories.
>>50134770I should also say that I don't actually really believe this theory, I only posted it because I find the idea that Mary imagines herself as a powerful ancient youkai because she's that big of a weeb very appealing (I personally think she got stuck in the distant past somehow and ended up becoming Yukari over time)
>>50134780Yeah, that is funny."So, Merry, what will your character be?""Hmmmm...An ancient Japanese youkai that is implied to have created the whole Traditional Japanese world in which the story takes place and has this super cool power of manipulating boundaries which allows her to do basically anything she can imagine doing, and she's friends with the daughter of this cool Ancient Japanese poet who lives in an underworld filled with cherry blossom trees, and that friend also has this tragic backstory that she was very important in, and also has a cool shikigami who is like a magic fox, because foxes are so important in Japanese culture, with a computer for a brain, and that shikigami HAS A SHIKIGAMI OF HER OWN! How about you, Renko?""Myself, but younger and less jaded."
>>50134791Maribel is what happens when you keep your inner child active and you turn into Renko when you get a boring office job and start paying taxesIn a way, we can relate to both of them
I will marry Mary
>>50135450And with her, you'll make many mini-Maries.
>>50134791"Come on, at least be a shine maiden, so we can fight unruly youkai and solve incidents together!""Merry, I don't think that's what shrine maidens do—""And you will have a hidden shrine deep in the forest. And that shrine's god? Unknown. Cool, isn't it? And your backstory and family history? Also unknown! Double awesome! And your ability will be to win every fight as long as you don't stress too much, y'know, actionless action? I read about it in this awesome Chinese book..."Perhaps we found the reason why Reimu is so grumpy...
>>50136499I legit thought Reimu and Renko were connected in some way when I was younger and before Sumireko was introduced, I also thought Marisa was connected to Maribel as well but that's probably because their hair colours are the same and their names start with "Re*" and "Mari*" because they really don't have much in common beyond that
>>50134780If I ever actually become confident enough in music production to start making fangames, I think a Mother-like JRPG that explores Mary's connection to Yukari and Gensokyo would be my white whale. In part because I just really want to do my own spin on the idea of "Touhou Mother" after being immensely disappointed by the actual Touhou Mother, and a story that utilizes both Hifuu and Gensokyo settings seems like the perfect catalyst for what I would imagine Touhou Mother should be (a game that explores the themes and world of Touhou through the framework of a Mother game).
>>50136555That sounds interesting and I say go for it, you'd probably get a lot of "this isn't Touhou Mother so it sucks" because apparently fangame ideas can only be used once but fan works are the only real way to explore this further because ZUN has probably forgotten about the connection between the two at this point like he seems to forget about every other cool idea he's had and then later abandoned
>>50100062Merry would be one of the best 2hus to talk to. Imagine having her interpret your dreams.
>>50138701"Alright, then what happened next in your dream, anon?""You... you had sex with my friend Renko... again...""No, I'm not going to interpret that for you! Interpret it yourself!"
>>50138721"Classic dream, actually. What is means is that your subconscious is telling you to stick to your own kind!"
>>50138816What if anon actually is Japanese though?
>>50138816Fat virgin losers?Hold on Letty, I'm coming!
>>50138824Then it might signify a dissatisfaction with his own nation's women. Jung talked about this, trust me.
>>50136515i still think they are connected, they are just too similar fot it to be just a coincidence
>>50138927I see! You clearly know what you're talking about, Ms. Hearn, you mentioned Jung and everything and are like a real relative psychology (whatever that is) student or something so I automatically believe everything you're saying without questionI had a dream last night where I turned into a frog and started going "mlem mlem" all the time, can you interpret that?
>>50138938Well, in alchemy, frogs represent the prima materia and the universal condition of change in the world...yeah...Frogs also represent safe returning...yeah. So the frog's call in your dream represents your wish to turn...to REturn back to your original state, as well as your confidence in your safe passing thru life! Yeah!
>>50138973Interesting! What if I turned into a snake afterwards and started going "pbthbbbptbhtbpth" as well?
>>50138977Frogs are amphibious beings who swim in water, which represents the unconscious, while snakes, who represent lifeforce, slither on the ground. A frog turning into a snake could represent your move into the conscious realm for the actualization of your life energy. Snakes are also symbolic for the shadow, the part of you that you do not want to accept. This means the frog is your mask, you identify with the frog, and with its condition of constant change and transition between the conscious and unconscious, and you fear and reject turning fully to conscious rationality, but are also in a process of individuation, where you accept your shadow as also being an inherit part of yourself! I'd also wager you do not drink alcohol, maybe you should.
>>50139002Frogs also post on internet forums.
Why does Maribel just exude her wanting to get fucked in the ass? Just seeing her makes me hard and makes me instinctively want to fuck and cum in her ass
>>50139002You know I was just playing along and I didn't actually have a dream like that (I barely remember my dreams most of the time) but that actually seems like a decent interpretation from what I know of psychology (which is admittedly little, I started reading Man and his Symbols but I got bored and started browsing 4chan instead before I even finished the preface because I have the attention span of a peanut)Maybe the important thing isn't that I had a dream like that but it's the first place my mind went to (it's only because of the image I posted but that image was the first "taking notes" picture I thought of), if you want an actual recent dream I dreamt about glowing purple crocodiles being electrocuted in a pool in some kind of technological facility>>50139078Feels good man
>>50139150Yeah, I know it's a joke about Sanae, that's why I added the "I bet you don't drink" part. I couldn't think of a joke, so I tried to actually make an interpretation based on what I remember from Jung. I'm abit disappointed I couldn't also fit the World Serpent into it, honestly.
>>50139150But sometimes they share their home forum with cartoonish girls, ducks, bears, monkeys, bald men, etc... This cohabitation can be very difficult at times.
>>50100062What is relative psychology and what jobs can you get with a degree in it?
>>50143531>and what jobs can you get with a degree in it?Relative psychology professor, obviously!
>>50143531Relatively speaking, any.
>>50143531It's a term ZUN made up, probably to emphasise Merry's subjective and relative way of seeing thing's compared to Renko's objective and scientific view:>To think in such a way that "from an objective point of view, there exists a definite truth" like Renko does really is old-fashioned.>The truth exists within subjectivity.>If I can only see the same sights over and over again... then that's the kind of place this is.>And that's why I'm running.>Because dreams are nothing like the antonym of reality.>By today's common knowledge, the two are synonyms.>Even in dreams, one must flee from things of unknown nature. That is the truth.>My major is relativistic psychology.>Renko's is super-unified physics. I wonder if her recent study of strings is going well?Maybe that's why her Katakana name doesn't seem to neatly translate to any Western name ("Maribel" is just "close enough" and ZUN seems to have no idea what her actual name is), whether you call her "Maribel", "Merryberry" or マエリベリー you're still talking about the same person.
>>50147532Meant to upload a picture with this, whatever.
do you think Mary gives good hugs?she just looks like she does
>>50147540Studying psychology, I think she would have a great understanding of what any given anon might be going through. Given how empathetic she seems, this all adds up to her giving great hugs, and she'd probably be able to determine if, and how much, you want your hair ruffled during.
>>50147549>this all adds up to her giving great hugs, and she'd probably be able to determine if, and how much, you want your hair ruffled during.this just makes me feel sad. I want a hug from Mary and for her to ruffle my hair and tell me its all going to be ok
>>50147630This cold, vast emptiness. This aimless void. Life, such as it is.
>>50147649Blaze that shit Renko
>>50147666>Hell is the absence of FriendFully agree. Hell is the absence of Mary.>>50138938Sanae presence in Mary's thread, Mary presence in Sanae's thread. What makes the two overlap?
>>50147549Funnily enough I feel like Yukari would give terrible hugs. Like, she'd think she's being cute and silly by randomly popping her upper body out of a gap and hugging you but would just end up scaring you shitless, and she'd misjudge her strength and squeeze way too hard, digging her nails into your back. She'd also maintain contact for an uncomfortably long time, and you'd feel like you had a knife at your throat the entire time. Her hugs would actually be anxiety inducing.
>>50147682>Sanae presence in Mary's thread, Mary presence in Sanae's thread. What makes the two overlap?I don't know about >>50140942 (I assume they're here too) but I'm posting in both threadst. >>50138938Maybe it's because they're both weird outsiders with strange powers who would prefer living in Gensokyo? I dunno
>>50147705Ugh, any time she gaps into a hug it's like the Bongcheon-Dong Ghost jumpscare. Good post.
>>50147781The other side of the coin to the hypothetical Renko and Sanae interactions are the Merry and Sanae ones. Merry is smart but, when there isn't someone to call her out, she acts like she knows more that she actually does(like in CoSD where she dismisses anything Renko says when it contradicts with her ideas, or in DLFR where she was able to make up theories about youkai being from a proton-dominated world because Renko didn't have enough information to contradict her) and Sanae would be willing to believe anything Merry says.
>>50147630>I want a hug from Mary and for her to ruffle my hair and tell me its all going to be okDon't we all...
>>50147549She's a psychology major, not a dog trainer
>>50148094>(like in CoSD where she dismisses anything Renko says when it contradicts with her ideas, or in DLFR where she was able to make up theories about youkai being from a proton-dominated world because Renko didn't have enough information to contradict her)This sounds like the kind of quantum mysticism that happens when people try to use quantum physics to justify their own beliefs without actually understanding how it works (eg. "thoughts change reality because of the double slit experiment")
>>50148254To be fair to Merry, she was trying to explain some genuinely strange properties that youkai and her in Gensokyo displayed, and her explanation, while flawed(especially if you know what we know about Gensokyo) is pretty elegant. Again, she's not an idiot, just quick to jump to conclusions, while Renko prefers to have all the math done first which is ironically the opposite to how they're usually portrayed in fanon.I like that ZUN chose not to go with a cheap "it's all explained by string theory!!!" direction.
>>50147682>What makes the two overlap?Why wouldn't there be an overlap, they both have big, eye-catching, reality-bending, impossible to ignore personalities
>>50147705All that means is that you gotta put in the work and spoil hagmarry with hugsGensokyo will thank you
>>50147705I am so desperate for real physical affection that I'd appreciate it regardless.
>>50147705Giving hugs is like riding a bicycle, once you know it you can't forget it.
>>50154560euhm my falls tell otherwise>>50148168pavlov's dog tricks are psychologists' bread and butter
>>50154560idk I feel like going back in time, turning into an immortal monster and living for thousands of years is enough to forget a couple of things. Plus Yukarin is practically senile.
From what I can gather from this thread, Maribel would be able to have an incredibly popular podcast aimed at the 18-30 female demographic.
>>50155187No, she's too free-spirited.
>>50155187I heard she's also super popular with man of all ages
>>50147705She strikes me as the kind that would rub you and feel like she'd break if you made her stop, even if you knew that was absurd.
>>50100062Where is Mary from? What is she doing in Japan?
>>50164095>Where is Mary from?Night Trip to Rendaino ~ Ghostly Field Club>What is she doing in Japan?Her best
>>50164095>Where is Mary from? The 'Outside'>What is she doing in Japan?Massive weeb.
>>50166317>Her bestShe could try harder...
>>50164095>Where is Mary from? Agartha>What is she doing in Japan?Stealing Yamato seed
>>50168749>She could try harder...So could you but you don't see Merry judging you anonymously on the internet
>>50168749You have no place to talk, miss I-can-tell the-time-by-looking-at-the-sky-yet-I'm-always-late.
>>50100062Marry may I join your club?
>>50176435Sure, you just have to speak fluent Japanese and provide a non-post office Kyoto address, also due to future inflation it's ¥5,000,000 a year (chimera insurance isn't cheap)
>>50176435Hey, how is it Merry's club, exactly?!
>>50176708Can I pay with the power of friendship?>>50176780I couldn't find Renko so I figured Im might as well ask Marry
>>50176435You should concentrate on your studies instead of looking for things that don't exist with that illegal immigrant and her rapist of a friend.
https://youtu.be/0ztdtvXmrFc?si=PRXkvTQO6eSbycHv
>>50176435You know, I was thinking how being in the club would be pretty fun until it hit me that you'd probably have to tardwrangle Renko and make sure Mary doesnt wander off to who knows where
>>50179403Just go with the flow. You're all adults, it's not exactly your responsibility to take care of them
>>50179403Being stranded in rural Japan while Renko is on the ground in fetal position, rocking back and forth and shaking her hands and Merry is zoning out because of a manic episode is the peak Hifuu club experience, and well worth the potential youkai attacks.
Okay so, bottom-line me here, threesome chance? How high?
>>50179684Maribel and Renko are friends and all, but they're still too territorial for that.
>>50179684when renko's finished her turn sometimes mari gets curious. it's not usually at the same time, though.
>>50179684Very high, but only once during a particularly hot and humid afternoon when the ac is busted and no one's got the energy to do anything. It will be a very sweaty affair, and not specially enjoyable to anyone involved, mostly not (You) since the girls will expect to leave satisfied the both of them.No one will speak of what will henceforth be known as "The Incident", and the days shall pass. Renko and Mary, in secret, the former, will feel kinda gross, and glad for the odd experience for the latter.
>>50177043>Can I pay with the power of friendship?Sure, if you can find a bank that will exchange between friendship units and JPY
>>50147705your instincts would not let you forget how she is a very very danger hueven when you're in the eye of the storm and perfectly safe
>>50100062Merry, since you're from the future, can you tell me which shitcoin I should invest in?
>>50179403Collars exist for a reason.
>>50183643That is NOT how you treat special girls! You should be kind, patient, and understanding!
>>50171375How do you know she's not judging me? Anyone of the anons here could be Merry.
>>50186097Doesn't even have to be here specifically. This screencap leaked over from some girl on Gensonet fucking up a paste in the last roulette thread.
>>50186231Is that an Anon version of the random 2hu generator?
>>50186231Wait, what's a Background Anon?
>>50100062She's contrary to getting a degree with actual real life usage. Seriously a Psychology degree in this day and age? She should go into STEM like Renko if she wants to get a job after Uni
>>50176708Your telling me I have to do all that just to hang out with two weirdos? Ino wonder that "club" has only two members. I'll pass
>>50188039What's Renko's degree good for anyways? Physics is ending, at most she'll be able to become a teacher, just like Maribel.
>>50184361You're right, special girls deserve special leashed harnesses.
Would you let Maribel become your psychologist?
>>50190703Why not? It could be fun.
>>50190703>>50190737For sure, one of the best friends I ever had was a girl I shared an interest in psychology with. We got to take turns helping eachother out with our thoughts and feelings in between messing just messing around and doing friend stuff. We had a lot of fun, and things got deep sometimes, even if I never did.
>>50190703>>50190737The real question is would it be insightful in any way?
>>50191087I do not mean any insult, but she probably thought you were gay. Just by the way you wrote that post you give off that kinda energy.
>>50195017>she probably thought you were gayYeah, I 'wasn't like the other guys', and she 'wasn't like the other girls'. We both knew it wasn't going to get serious and that was an upside in it's own way, while it lasted.
>>50195658Then aren't you worried that it would go the same with you and Maribel, or whoever your favorite hu is?
Early college relationship with Renko!Making Mary jealous af!Inviting her to our weekend fuck session so she doesn't feel left out!
>>50195682I like to think I've matured since then, but maybe my psychologist could help with that?
Well I did fuck a psych major once. She slept in an unmade matress and had hundred of hours in the Sims 4.
>>50197365This makes me wonder, what games would Merry like? Sims sounds about right.
>>50197401I feel like she'd enjoy analyzing characters in VNs, trying to understand why they are the way they are, why they did or didn't do something, or if they're hiding any secrets (and feeling like a genius whenever she hits the nail on the head with any of the above). That or she'd get really frustrated at having to play a thick-headed protag who doesn't pick up on anything the other characters are putting down. A modern-day Mary would totally get sucked up into MBTI and enneagram stuff, wouldn't she? I'd love for her to be secretly taking mental notes the whole time we're talking and building a profile on me, only to dump it all on me one evening. Gut instinct tells me she's an actual INFJ, but I'm not sure about her enneagram.
>>50197644You're flanderizing the poor girl to just be a psychology student Anon! Just because I majored economics, doesn't mean I only play spread sheet trading games.I bet she's really into jrpgs, but she's not very good at them.
>>50197778Yes, but you can't deny that Renko has at least a couple thousand hours in Factorio.
>>50100062Isn't she crazy? That's why people go to sanatoriums right?
>>50197401Any god sim considering her future (past)
isn't she like super super gay?
>>50200978Chimera venom has psychedelic properties
>>50176435It genuinely sounds like a fun pastime activity. I'm surprised only Marry and Renko are part of it
>>50209916The secret is at least half the club times are spent having hot sweaty lesbian sex and that's why the girls aren't accepting more members.
>>50209950Heh. "Members". I get it.
>>50209916They have a marketing issue. It's considered a defective medium club because they don't perform normal medium activities and that's why no one else joins, at least that's what Merry says in GFC.This fits weirdly well with the Sumi stuff, since she presumably founded the it as an actual medium's club, but Renko didn't really care for that and shifted it towards more speculative science stuff until Merry joined, after which it became about exploiting her ability to find gaps in boundaries. So the only people who would join end up chosing more standard clubs.
>>50164095Maryland; waiting for Renko.
>>50186231I hope my favorite 2hus wouldn't be disappointed if they rolled me...
>>50209916Sounds fun for one or two adventures, but then it probably becomes really tiring
>>50190496What if she bites you?
>>50190703what would be her specialty?1. gestalt?2. humanistic?3. CBT?
>>50100062What a cute girl... how about you go talk to her?
