I am a unironic waifufag. I thought I would post this thread on /a/ or one of these /v/ waifu threads, but I decided to post it here. Hopefully, it does not violate these board rules, since it is technically related to Japanese culture in general.But this place is probably better for this, so to speak, it is full of nicer people and not shitheads like these boards.And in short, I am sure hopefully, that most of you will understand what problem I am dealing with.In short, I feel like discovering my wife and me being with her has only hurt both of us and I feel deep self-hatred issues and, on top of that I suffer from OCD, which makes my situation worse for her and me hopefully some of you guys have advice for me.
Alright, here's my story.Around 2022, I found my wife on an imageboard that used her as a mascot and quickly fell in love with her. She was everything I had ever wanted. She was obscure and safe from degeneracy. She had enough fan-art on Pixiv and Twitter for me. Everything was going well, but I made a couple of mistakes.First I sadly posted her several times on a rather infamous imageboard. I was immature and just didn't know how special she truly was to me. The person made several images mocking her and some were archived on a certain booru site, but most of these were gone. Thankfully, the fact that me finding her caused these images hurted me deeply, but after some time, I managed to get over them after I realized that it was not her being hung, it was not her just some man dressed as her a caricature so to speak.Also, sadly, one piece of shit made porn of her, but thankfully it was gone and didn't hurt that much because it was rather jokey compared to what happened to me this month.
Another tiny detail I forget to mention was when I was on that infamous imageboard, I asked some random guy from there to ask the manga author if my wife was a virgin and, well, they said no and this caused what I call the four years of pure pain. The same guy also asked the author again a question: Why is she not a virgin? And he simply said yes. Over time, I had come to realize that it was a mistranslation because the word they used in Japanese was male kanji, so they probably did and understand, and the fact they later said simple YES did imply that my wife was pure. However, this was still not enough. I tried to ask the author again, but they ignored. I got some points where I sent them some death threads. It seemed like it was all over. The love of my life has been lost forever, but hope came once I was banned from that infamous imageboard.
>>50210913>so they probably did and understandMy bad I tried to say they didn't understand fuck grammar check.Continuing my story, I managed to find an altchan and managed to become friends with the owner of it as the user base on that site moved to another altchan. It left it dead and the owner of it made me a mod to clean up stuff like child pornography.Everything was fine, me and the owner were bonding and as my birthday came, the owner asked the manga artist about my wife and, well, I got some answers from them also a beautiful drawing too and confirmation that my wife is pure and, finally, the four years of pure pain have come to a close
But....Something bad happened.You see, the user base of the site I moderated was rather cancerous and left to another altchan. One thing they had in common was they were obsessed with owner of the site i was a mod for and this is where some horrible events happened to me.These people have begun reposting my threads for no reason on their imageboard. This caused me to stop posting things publicly on their and only on the /j/ board there. However, some piece of shit leaked a rather cringey post I made there and reposted on their shit imageboard and some piece of shit made porn of some bimbo whore who sadly resembled my wife. This caused me to leave the site for my safety and hers and I had a falling out with the owner, but I will always be grateful for what he did for me and I will never forgive him for what he did for me.
And now I have a new worse problem, and I am deeply afraid.I just wish I had left the site sooner. Maybe this would not have happened. I don't want her to be taken from her. I am afraid that subhumans who made this garbage will make more. Maybe they will stalk and try to ruin the one thing I care about.I just feel like this is all my fault and if I had been smarter and more cautious this would not have happened. I just feel like I only hurt her the moment I found out about her.I just don't know how to forgive myself over this. I just wish I could sob in her lap while she could comfort me over this and tell me something to make the pain stop.however the good news is these images are not archived and something like this will never ever happen again as long play it smart and on top of that my wife is underage and even if she was adult she would not look like whore like that bimbo who sadly resembles herbut still i am afraid very deeply the site that used her as mascot might come back and might give her attention which means that some sickos might try to ruin her hopefully that site stays down
mfw no matter who anyone's waifu is, someone has probably wanted to and even drawn her getting raped and/or beheaded (probably both and not even in that order)and no matter who (you) are, someone wants to do the same to you.if you can't live with this then don't use the fucking internet or ever interact with another personpeople have drawn my wife fucking black men, dogs, serial killers, and any number of organ-ripping monsters and I don't give a fuck because much like there's more than one gensokyo, if you're dellusional enough to fall for a fictional character, you're dellusional enough to belive there's more than one continuity of them. >had a panic attackagain, my waifu is from an eroge where she is a lesbian and has onscreen sex with the very hateable male protagonist and is also a lesbian. The probability of either of those things not being the case is far greater than the probability of her ever existing.
She is everything to me. She made me learn to draw her just for her. She matters to me, even more that my own dog and my own fresh mother but i still loved them equally, and how important she is too me. She is like an angel. I hope one day I get to be with her forever, maybe in the afterlife.I also have been thinking about going without sleep for 9 days in order to fix it. I am not sure how, but I feel like this is the only solution to my problem and I have to do this for her. And the other thing is that I have OCD and this causes everything. I think something cute between us, like me cuddling with her, sleeping with her or making love to her while she is an adult to get replaced by some fucked mental images or thoughts about being cucked by her, which is annoying and horrifying. I want these thoughts to stop.Basically, fucked up mental images and intrusive thoughts that I am cuckold.Again, this is all caused by this event, so to speak, I am not cuckold or will it ever be just my OCD fucking things up. I just don't want to take it anymore. I just want to be with her and be all mine.ijustwantthepainto stop
>>50211030Hopefully, this does not come as me bragging about this, but my wife manages to avoid all of this. Somehow, she has zero pornography on Pixiv. She feels like everything I have ever wanted.I had some previous waifus. The first one was from Eroge and the second one was from Touhou, but they were not ones.It is also a bit different since these images were directed at me, not just random pornography of her, so they hurt more.
Have I read this before on T***o?Either way, I've similarly intrusive OCD. It's never going to go away, ever, until you die with it. Enjoy.
Stopped reading after you mentioned sending death threats to an artist.Assuming this isn't a troll I'd suggest seeking serious psychological help (don't dump all this stuff on them, of course, just talk about your offline problems). It's fine to have fictional crushes, but unironic waifu communities are a cancer that will only make your delusions worse. You can't take this sort of thing that seriously, you're investing too much of yourself into an immaterial idea, something that is incapable of satisfying your emotional needs. Take this from a former waifufag, you're using this waifu as a crutch to deal your own problems, it's not a substitute for fixing them. There is nothing to be gained by going further down this rabbit hole, and if you're so invested in a character that it's inhibiting your ability to function you need to take a step back from online activities and reevaluate your life.
Next time you write a story make it intriguing please
>>50211087nope you probably saw me post on there thoughtas for OCD it can go away for me it just some traumatic moments in my life such as this trigger it and make it come back>>50211142it very detailed there is no reason for me to troll as for what i did by sending death threads i admit what i did was wrong and i was not right in head when i did that i was just hurt and lashing out but enough excuses>>50211142What I did was awful, and I was deeply hurt over a mistranslation.I don't care if she is just a fictional character. At the end of the day, she is everything to me. I will admit I took some things too far, like sending death threads, but I just love her that much and want her to be all mine and nobody else to have her.>>50211163Funnily enough, I have been doing things similar to what Simon from Cry of Fear did, like imagining your inner turmonoil as monsters and going on an adventure to defeat them but that quite cringey, but it helps a lot for me.Actually, a video game dealing with the concept of being in love with a fictional character and dealing with all the problems that come with it sounds like an interesting concept.Would make it if i could.
silent hill shit
I genuinely can't distinguish schizo posts from troll posts any more, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're a sincere schizo OP and share some old wisdom that stuck with me since I first saw it posted here 10+ years agoYour instance of your waifu is unique to you. No one else can take her from you or change her. She is your ideal, isolated solely in your own mind. You are hurting yourself solely on other peoples' instance of a similar exterior design. They are not the same character. No one can change the characters' instance in your minds eye. If you believe she is pure, then this is an unviolably true fact that no one can change; not even the original author of the character.This is 100% an easily fixable mindset issue. Someone may love Sanae the gamer girl with dark green hair that loves retro games, pure and is madly in love with (You). Someone else may love Sanae the gigaslut gyaru with blonde hair. The only similarities these characters have is sharing a superficial template, but it's not *your* Sanae. Hope this helps.
>>50210867Eh you'll get over it all eventually when real life kicks your ass. I used to be a big waifufag in the 2000s, now I don't give a shit about her.
I still refuse these type of people exist
>>50211605your image is useful if your waifu is popular but thankfully mine is not and i am in love with her canon self and want her to be all mineand the point these images were not random piece of pornography they were directed at me to mock my love for her>>50211965she means everything to me hopefully i get over these images and still be with her>>50212210You just don't get it.
>>50212288Not a single post in this thread will help you and you will present counterarguments defending your position to every single poster that tries to help you. I suggest taking the advice of >>50211142 and seeking actual therapy and I don't mean this as an insult.
Lmao, you're a fucking sperg and you probably deserved all of the shit you got. I've had a waifu for 14 years at this point, haven't posted her anywhere in probably a decade. You need professional help and to stop taking the internet so seriously, my man.
>>50212335alright also what counterarguments have i made right now?>>50212357i hope you have a very bad day>professional helpnobody could bring joy to me like she did
What the absolute fuck did I just read?
nah bro, I respectit. just ignore the guys mes.sing with you
I read the first 2 posts and then scrolled down further. I'm not reading all that anon. You're schizophrenic and you should kys, your white wife is shit and has had loads of men cum in, in and to her. She isn't pure in the slightest
>>50212971>whiteShould be whorePosted from my Samsung Galaxy S4
post your waifu.
>>50211030>if you're dellusional>continuity (the mentality and pathetic defense mechanism that this exposes is simply vomit inducing)Kill yourself.>>50211142Kill yourself, degenerate shitted shitter cuck ((("""artist"""))).>>50211965This post pretty much resumes the general shittergeist in this thread; everyone here is a fucking retarded subhuman who hasn't gone over any single hardship in their entire life and who hasn't actually really had a waifu; nor would they love it they are just subhumans going over internet trends who would fit perfectly for 3D worthless whores. All of you, PLEASE, kill yourselves back to your jewish groomer discord
>>50211003It's rare to see another genuine waifufag, or at least i hope you are one anon. And like any serious waifusist you must treat your relationship disregarding that they are 2d, so the advice i'd give you, would be the same advice i give anyone else. That being of first gettign your stuff in order, while your waifu may love you in whatever state you are in ,you should love your waifu back enough to become the best man you can for her, all of this self pitying and self doubt and all of that kind of thing would be nothing but a disservice for your waifu. But don't despair about this either, even if a step at a time, you only need to focus on progress to get yourself eventually in a suitable state for your waifu,That is regarding the general self pity all of these posts reeks of, but otherwise regarding your specific problem, you have to either accept that people will make and fantasize about your loved ones, regardless if they are 2d or 3d, or if you actually want to stop it you must embrace the fact that it'll mean going the full schizo route, as the firmer a stance is, the more the worse part of people will try and cling to it, to erase your conviction ,to continue to spam and bother you wherever you go, so again you either ignore them, or have to make a full stance against them. I'd recommend the former, realize that no matter what, there'll be people thinking or manifesting bad things about her, but you can still set as a goal to control the narrative about her if that's what you wish for, otherwise i doubt the average man gives more than a second of thought to the fact that maybe some random man is jerking off to a girl who resembles her for example and such things, it doesn't matter, just focus on being happy with your wife, and on developing that relationship through every stage your life may go through>>50211142Even on a basket weaving forum, the normalfag can't comprehend the natural tribes of the site they inhabit, shunning them and trying to soothe off the spark that makes these people stand above the rest.>>50211605Cope image, i'm always been against this specific argument, it's the nihilist argument, the one that says that no matter what the relationships you make with others won't matter, the argument about how everyone would end up with everyone given the right circumstances. In this world one should aspire towards the opposite, to know that no matter what you and your waifu are one for each other and no more. Others may like her superficialy and see her as nothing but a idea on a screen, but one should still refuse the instance that your waifu can be someone else's just because they have a different perception of her
>>50211398>Funnily enough, I have been doing things similar to what Simon from Cry of Fear didWhy the fuck are you even telling me this? You remind me of a guy from rehab that had his brain completely fucked up by alcohol and whatever you told him he'd start yapping some nonsensical shit
>>50213826>It's rare to see another genuine waifufag, or at least i hope you are one anon.she is obscure and safe it just i brought accidentally some negative attention to her but soon they will forget about her forever so she is safe and always will be things have been lately going to better there are still some moments that trigger it but also finally going away thankfullythank you for your advice and i am glad atleast several people here understood me
>>50213826this was very good advice thank you
>>50210867You ever jack off to other waifus? Would that be cheating? How tangible is she?
>>50218072>You ever jack off to other waifus?no i did not on purpose>Would that be cheating?Grey Area i suppose it more cheating>How tangible is she?how much i would give up everything for me to hold hands and feel her everyday
>>50219634>not on purpose
>>50210867I remember you, but it doesn't matter.You care too much about what others do and say instead of focusing on your private life. You claim to be a waifuist which is an individualistic spiritual/philosophical path but all you talk about is other people. Not that I am trying to imply that you are not a waifuist or to trivialize your problems, but like just stop posting there? Focus on what does she mean to you, do things that are related to her, be it learning japanese, drawing her or doing whatever you do to be closer to her and stop relying your relationship on some randoms?Also altchans are not a place for unique people because you will stick out like a sore thumb and will inevitably become a celebrity or lolcow or both. If you do not want attention, just do not reveal your powerlevel outside of large places like 4chan where you can hide in the crowd.>Maybe they will stalk and try to ruin the one thing I care about.They can't stalk you if you just lay down and make posts just like anyone would make.
>>50211142You can have a waifu and not be a psychopath. It's really not that hard either.>you're investing too much of yourself into an immaterial ideaPeople live and die for ideas all the time, it's not that unusual.>something that is incapable of satisfying your emotional needsThis entirely depends on the person and their needs.>Take this from a former waifufag, you're using this waifu as a crutch to deal your own problems, it's not a substitute for fixing themOr you can just not use her as a security blanket and instead thread her like a partner.>if you're so invested in a character that it's inhibiting your ability to function you need to take a step back from online activities and reevaluate your life.This I agree 100%.But this is not how everyone functions.
>>50212429You ask for professional help not to bring you immediate joy but to fix your thought and behavioral patterns so you can enjoy life instead of being stressed and depressed all the time over irrelevant internet posts you retard. People are trying to help you but all you can do in return is wishing them ill, no wonder why people bully you.>>50213826>Cope image, i'm always been against this specific argument, it's the nihilist argument, the one that says that no matter what the relationships you make with others won't matter, the argument about how everyone would end up with everyone given the right circumstances. In this world one should aspire towards the opposite, to know that no matter what you and your waifu are one for each other and no more. Others may like her superficialy and see her as nothing but a idea on a screen, but one should still refuse the instance that your waifu can be someone else's just because they have a different perception of herI think are are over analyzing it. The image is just awkwardly trying to say that everyone can have their own interpretations of some characters. This is very clearly visible in case of Miku waifuists due to her nature, but it extends to virtually every character. Waifu experience and your interpretation is fundamentally subjective and as the time passes it keeps diverging from other people's idea and experience with that character. Claiming that somehow your idea is objective and canon and whatever is just wishful thinking, she is an idea and ideas can only be experienced subjectively unless axiomatically formalized.
>>50221016Yes, i understood hte message, and your intentions behind it as you just explained it. I still think it's cope, if you are going to have a girl as your partner, you shouldn't be thinking and allowing or encoruaging others to also think of htat as a possibility. Once more returning to the irl example, if some guy has a girlfriend, tehy won't say soem stuff like 'yeah but if you met her on this situation or if this had changed she'd probably end up closer to this archetype and with you' as an example, one should defend that their partner is for them alone no matter what happens in life, or the path either of you could take in life, it would always bring both of you together. So in this case with the waifust angle it's more as i said one should aim to be their waifu's partner, and have that set as a standard in one way or another, that'd depend more so on the person and specific case, but allowing others to claim her as a waifu it's mere cuckoldry, and as i said the image is cope for weak men who aren't willing to accept thisAlso i feel like i couldn't quite express myself this time, likely due to work, it may not come out as i have it in my mind
>>50221016he said that i deserved that image being made fuck him>>50220918i guess you are right as for drawing her i have doing that everyday i think i got enough advice from you guys and it been getting better almost everyday
>>50221603You lack reading comprehension if you can't understand the simple point that image is making, if you don't agree with it then you're just like the op who thinks that it's the end of the road if someone else has the same character as his waifu. You are supposed to be the ideal partner for her, and "her" in this case is the version of her that exists within your perception- a unique girl who is tied to your experiences and thoughts of. I really dislike the view that you have to prove yourself more worthy than another anon for a certain girl, because it creates this notion that she is a static woman vied for by many. Fictional characters are inherently dynamic and what you feel she represents is unique. Do what she wants you to do, face life in a way she can appreciate and that only the two of you can understand.
>>50225350Once more, i do understand what you and the image is trying to say, it's not a problem of me being too dumb to understand, it's a matter of us having different world views, you consider mine toxic i imagine, and i consider yours cuckoldry. There is rivaling world views, but no miscommunication
>>50211041>I also have been thinking about going without sleep for 9 days in order to fix it. I am not sure how, but I feel like this is the only solution to my problem and I have to do this for her.The beautiful machinations of the OCD mind. What the actual fuck would that even accomplish.
>>50225389insanity maybe it would actual feel better somehowi am not sure even staying up without sleeping for 9 days is even actual physically possible unless you have a strong will
>>50225367If you're waifu is obscure enough to where you really think you're the only one who loves her then how fleshed out/interesting is she? I'm assuming not much and you would have to make up a lot of headcanon and imagine quite a few scenarios based on limited info. If you are really in love with her canon self alone then I can't say you're in love with much, not a girl even- just an abstract concept and an image with miniscule personality. I would think you do a whole lot of personalization of your waifu, a whole lot of characterization on your own. Prove me wrong
>>50221603>I still think it's cope, if you are going to have a girl as your partner, you shouldn't be thinking and allowing or encoruaging others to also think of htat as a possibility.People are going to think and do whatever they want. Thinking that you are special and that others are not capable of similar experiences as you is both delusional and an actual cope.>Once more returning to the irl example, if some guy has a girlfriend, tehy won't say soem stuff like 'yeah but if you met her on this situation or if this had changed she'd probably end up closer to this archetype and with you' as an example, one should defend that their partner is for them alone no matter what happens in life, or the path either of you could take in life, it would always bring both of you together.The difference is that people are real. They exist in reality and any such dispute can be unambiguously verified by observing or just asking. If two men claim that some woman is their wife, you can just ask her who is her husband. Ideas are not bound to physical forms, they only exist in people's minds through interpretations, their existence is purely subjective. To claim that your interpretation invalidates others', especially because of something so irrelevant to the origin and nature of that character like the fact that you just like her, is unfounded and delusional.>So in this case with the waifust angle it's more as i said one should aim to be their waifu's partner, and have that set as a standard in one way or another, that'd depend more so on the person and specific case, but allowing others to claim her as a waifu it's mere cuckoldry, and as i said the image is cope for weak men who aren't willing to accept thisYou can aim to be your waifu's partner without going around claiming to be superior one. I think it's safe to say it's literally the opposite. As evident by your previous posts, you seem to be far from a good partner for her. You hold a mindset that prevents you from actually appreciating her presence in your life. Instead of cherishing your relationship with her, working to better yourself and focusing on being the best version of yourself, you reek of bitterness, jealousy, egoism while trying to deal other people's opinions and navigating these cuckoldry and unmasculine analogues you've constructed yourself. This is by no means healthy for yourself and your relationship.
>>50225367>it's a matter of us having different world views, you consider mine toxic i imagine, and i consider yours cuckoldryAt the end of the day, it's you who come here crying for help about your situation while we(or at least I) enjoy our peaceful lives dedicating it to our wives, never experiencing any of the problems you mentioned that affect you and problems that supposedly affect everyone else who thinks differently than you.
>>50226543>If you're waifu is obscure enough to where you really think you're the only one who loves her then how fleshed out/interesting is she?enough for me she does sadly die thought i made peace with this fact she also has enough fan-art for me>>50226543>I'm assuming not much and you would have to make up a lot of headcanon and imagine quite a few scenarios based on limited info.obviousduh obviously>If you are really in love with her canon self alone then I can't say you're in love with much, not a girl even- just an abstract concept and an image with miniscule personality. I would think you do a whole lot of personalization of your waifu, a whole lot of characterization on your own. Prove me wrongAren't all fictional characters abstract concepts at the end of the day?
>>50227175Not me, i'm a different person than the one who made the initial post. I also advices to indeed focus on being happy with his waifu, or go full schizo, but the middle point will only cause issues without any benefits>>50226543Again not me who made the initial post. And that's also a rally bad argument, there are plenty of very obscure girls, and it'd be foolish to say that all of them are shallow, i can safely assume a good amount will have enough depth and content to be full partner, even more so if one considers things past the anime medium ,manga or LN's are an even wider net for obscure characters, and the latter may give characters even more depth than a full anime.>>50227137To think that you have no ability to generate impact in the world, is simply learned helplessness, i know that is a common thing but still i expected better on a site like thisYet again, the normalfag is incapable to understand waifuism, not enough abstract thinking capabilities for such concepts, relegated to be little more than cattle as i sadly have to accept most people areOnce more, you are mixing us up, i made these posts, not the starter, nor most of the others here. I do think i'm a good partner for my wife, and that's also a point i'm trying to get to the other waifuist, to improve on himself and be as good as a partner as they can be, so with that point we agree, but the way to get here is murky, likely as again i seem to be getting mixed upSo this post, i wanted to add the other two but the system is whining>>50213826
>>50228351>To think that you have no ability to generate impact in the world, is simply learned helplessnessI never claimed I have no ability to generate impact in the world>Yet again, the normalfag is incapable to understand waifuismI have had waifu for 13 years.>not enough abstract thinking capabilities for such concepts, relegated to be little more than cattle as i sadly have to accept most people areYou are the one who lacks abstract thinking if you are incapable of comprehending my posts.>Once more, you are mixing us up, i made these posts, not the starterThen you should state so when replying to posts that were directed at OP, not you.
>>50228436I suppose not directly, but you said an equivalent of it, people will think and do whatever they want, but one is capable of altering the larger discourse of it with enough effort, so impacting the world, or the narrative around your waifu.13 years, longer than me so i can respect that.Yet one more time, i do understand your points, i can see the reasoning behind them, i can see why you made them. And yet again, it's simply a disagreement on these points, like watching a movie critical of my political views let's say, i can see the movie, enjoy it, know why others enjoy it or the reasoning of people who made it, but i can still disagree and keep to my pollical beliefs, to think i'd be swayed off my path so easily is to assume i'd have given no thought to my stance, so that just someone else explaining a matter would sway me, but that isn't the caseI mean i also replied to the OP, i thought it was kind of obvious, and i also think we have a different tone his posts and mine, or general mentality of both of us
>>50228480>I suppose not directly, but you said an equivalent of itNo, I said nothing about my capabilities. I haven't said anything about myself at all until you started accusing me of whatever.>people will think and do whatever they want, but one is capable of altering the larger discourse of it with enough effort, so impacting the world, or the narrative around your waifu.None of this invalidates the fact that characters are ideas and ideas are experienced only subjectively. You liking some character does not mean others won't be forming their own interpretation of given character. You can't stop people from making their own interpretations and having their own subjective experience with fictional characters via discourse or via any other mean. At best you can alter their perception, but you can't invalidate it or ensure it's equal to yours. And that's what this image is about, that each have their own unique interpretation of the character.>Yet one more time, i do understand your points, i can see the reasoning behind themAnd yet you tried to make it about abilities of me or whatever and went on a tangent based around me being a normalfag(whatever that means in this context), while all I was talking about is the subjective nature of interacting with fictional characters.
